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User: "Dryad"
Date: 28 Mar 2006 06:10:47 AM
Object: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration
We all know that as human animals, we have no personal choice in life
and death decisions, we are at the whim and desire of natural
selection. The reason for illegal aliens gaining a big chunk of the
American economy is sole dictated by natural selection and evolution.
These forces have determine Americans as unfit to rule the land and
decided to give to Latin Americans. The way they have accomplish this
is thru forcing American to abort for weird reason, which instinct
dictates as natural.
Here is one:
"Health." The mother might feel mental stress if pregnancy interfered
with special schooling, or career, or social activities, or
vacation=97almost any inconvenience that would "distress" her. She might
plead it would cause financial hardship, and be legally qualified for
an abortion. Or the family circle would be "disturbed."
.

User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 28 Mar 2006 01:37:55 PM
"Dryad" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
news:f61e0e1e0603280410q71e0eeb1me7a5a2dd9007d721@mail.gmail.com...

We all know that as human animals, we have no personal choice >in life
and death decisions, we are at the whim and desire of natural
selection. The reason for illegal aliens gaining a big chunk of the
American economy is sole dictated by natural selection and >evolution.

Illegal aliens are not a big chunk of the American economy. The majority are
located in a few states in the southwest.
It says nothing about natural selection but on economic factors.
Those seeking services and those offering cheap labor.

These forces have determine Americans as unfit to rule the land >and
decided to give to Latin Americans.

These are personal economic issues and not political ones for those involved
in transactions of job seeking and job hiring.
This is in contrast with people who illegally came here on the Mayflower and
landed without permission.
The story told by American history of the island of Manhatten being sold for
$24 dollars worth of beads given to the indians.
The expansion of illegal migration into the west and treaties signed with
the indians that they would not settle there.
They killed the indians for gold once it was found and took their land.
Specifically to the southwest, there was illegal migration of Americans into
Texas which revolted against the Mexican governemnt.
The taking of the southwest through war and the Mexican landholders thrown
out in the street even though a treaty was signed denoting their right to
such land.
These are all issues that have shaped the discussion.

The way they have accomplish this
is thru forcing American to abort for weird reason, which instinct
dictates as natural.
Here is one:
"Health." The mother might feel mental stress if pregnancy >interfered
with special schooling, or career, or social activities, or
vacation—almost any inconvenience that would "distress" her. >She might
plead it would cause financial hardship, and be legally qualified >for
an abortion. Or the family circle would be "disturbed."

If you are referring to the illegal Latin Americans, they are Catholics who
do not believe in abortion. The growth rate is one of the largest growing
segment out there.
.
User: "bethb"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 29 Mar 2006 08:47:35 AM
You should take this type of commentary to a politically based
group...a bleeding heart liberal one.
.
User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 29 Mar 2006 12:40:13 PM
"bethb" <bethbbornstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143643655.543798.224810@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

You should take this type of commentary to a politically based
group...a bleeding heart liberal one.

Immigration is a bleeding heart conservative issue.
Abortion is correlated with affluence. Having children and large families is
a sign of poverty.
One can argue that illegal immigrants are much more fiscal and socially
conservative. It's an economic issue and conservatives try and make it a
political one.
.
User: "Fooj"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 29 Mar 2006 02:08:25 PM
Robert wrote:

"bethb" <bethbbornstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143643655.543798.224810@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

You should take this type of commentary to a politically based
group...a bleeding heart liberal one.


Immigration is a bleeding heart conservative issue.

Abortion is correlated with affluence. Having children and large families is
a sign of poverty.

One can argue that illegal immigrants are much more fiscal and socially
conservative. It's an economic issue and conservatives try and make it a
political one.

Saying immigration benefits the US is like saying the South wasn't poor
because of it during the civil war. Many republicans have shot
themselves in the foot by defending the immigration of cheap labor. It
isn't a specifically democrat or republican issue anymore.
Interestingly, the southwestern Catholic Church being a paragon of
fascism has recently defended immigration. This reminds of the
pedophile priest scandal. When will they ever learn?
.
User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 29 Mar 2006 02:55:38 PM
"Fooj" <deanlangenfeld@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143662905.854018.199820@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Robert wrote:

"bethb" <bethbbornstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143643655.543798.224810@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

You should take this type of commentary to a politically based
group...a bleeding heart liberal one.


Immigration is a bleeding heart conservative issue.

Abortion is correlated with affluence. Having children and large

families is

a sign of poverty.

One can argue that illegal immigrants are much more fiscal and socially
conservative. It's an economic issue and conservatives try and make it a
political one.


Saying immigration benefits the US is like saying the South wasn't poor
because of it during the civil war.

Correct in that sayings don't matter. I look towards actions or inactions. I
mentioned actions in the past and present when a nation wants to do
something. Actions speak louder than conservative words. If immigration did
not benefit the US then we would not have it and it would have been stopped
long ago. The country was built on immigration and in some cases we went to
Africa and forced immigration. We went to China when the railroad had to be
built. Now that slavery is over the cheap labor had to be replaced with
recent immigrants.
To say that immigration has not benefited the US is bizarre.
A US without immigrants is like the US baseball team that didn't make it to
the finals in the WBO.
Many republicans have shot

themselves in the foot by defending the immigration of cheap labor. It
isn't a specifically democrat or republican issue anymore.

Lip service as far as the Republicans and Democrats.


Interestingly, the southwestern Catholic Church being a paragon of
fascism has recently defended immigration. This reminds of the
pedophile priest scandal. When will they ever learn?

I don't get your point as everyone defends immigration. There are laws
giving illegals many rights. They have more rights than those people in
Guantanemo.
Have you ever seen somebody do prison time for hiring an illegal?
Never happen.
.
User: "Fooj"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 31 Mar 2006 12:23:22 PM
Robert wrote:

"Fooj" <deanlangenfeld@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143662905.854018.199820@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Robert wrote:

"bethb" <bethbbornstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143643655.543798.224810@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

You should take this type of commentary to a politically based
group...a bleeding heart liberal one.


Immigration is a bleeding heart conservative issue.

Abortion is correlated with affluence. Having children and large

families is

a sign of poverty.

One can argue that illegal immigrants are much more fiscal and socially
conservative. It's an economic issue and conservatives try and make it a
political one.


Saying immigration benefits the US is like saying the South wasn't poor
because of it during the civil war.


Correct in that sayings don't matter. <snip> Now that slavery is over the cheap labor had to be replaced with
recent immigrants.

Absolutely wrong. You just defended slavery again. Guest workers are
not US homeowners.

To say that immigration has not benefited the US is bizarre.
A US without immigrants is like the US baseball team that didn't make it to
the finals in the WBO.

Your defense of cheap labor is even more bizarre.

Many republicans have shot

themselves in the foot by defending the immigration of cheap labor. It
isn't a specifically democrat or republican issue anymore.


Lip service as far as the Republicans and Democrats.


Interestingly, the southwestern Catholic Church being a paragon of
fascism has recently defended immigration. This reminds of the
pedophile priest scandal. When will they ever learn?


I don't get your point as everyone defends immigration. There are laws
giving illegals many rights. They have more rights than those people in
Guantanemo.
Have you ever seen somebody do prison time for hiring an illegal?
Never happen.

The Catholic Church have taken a stance which will speed their demise.
I don't see many citizens defending immigration nor an employer who
uses it for cheap labor.
We were a nation of emigrants not just immigrants; and we are no longer
a nation of immigrants. You need to adjust yourself to this change.
.
User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 31 Mar 2006 12:46:09 PM
"Fooj" <deanlangenfeld@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > Correct in
that sayings don't matter. <snip> Now that slavery is over the cheap labor
had to be replaced with

recent immigrants.

Absolutely wrong.

You need to study history.
You just defended slavery again. Guest workers are

not US homeowners.

I am not defending anything. I am telling you the history of this country
and why the illegals are here. Where did you get this US homeowner stuff?


To say that immigration has not benefited the US is bizarre.
A US without immigrants is like the US baseball team that didn't make it

to

the finals in the WBO.

Your defense of cheap labor is even more bizarre.

You live in a fantasy world. With all the free trade agreements that is
exactly what is happening. If you pick up a phone and want tech support you
get somebody in India.
It is all about CHEAP.

Have you ever seen somebody do prison time for hiring an illegal?
Never happen.


The Catholic Church have taken a stance which will speed their demise.

And you are worried about that so you joined a white supremist Baptist
church?

I don't see many citizens defending immigration nor an employer who
uses it for cheap labor.

The construction industry wouldn't exist and who do you think is rebuilding
New Orleans? What happened to Walmart?
Most are in the southwest so you must not live anywhere near there. If that
is the case why worry about it?
You are either very ignorant or in denial.


We were a nation of emigrants not just immigrants; and we are no longer
a nation of immigrants. You need to adjust yourself to this change.

When did we win the war on illegal immigrants? Please tell me when the tide
was stopped at the border?
I think if you close your eyes and come up with good slogans that will
change reality.
.
User: "Fooj"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 31 Mar 2006 01:06:28 PM
Robert wrote:

"Fooj" <deanlangenfeld@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > Correct in
that sayings don't matter. <snip> Now that slavery is over the cheap labor
had to be replaced with

recent immigrants.

Absolutely wrong.


You need to study history.

There wasn't a need. There was the desire for unreasonably cheap labor.
It an obvious conspiracy.

You just defended slavery again. Guest workers are

not US homeowners.


I am not defending anything. I am telling you the history of this country
and why the illegals are here. Where did you get this US homeowner stuff?

Guest workers don't own homes.

To say that immigration has not benefited the US is bizarre.
A US without immigrants is like the US baseball team that didn't make it

to

the finals in the WBO.

Your defense of cheap labor is even more bizarre.


You live in a fantasy world. With all the free trade agreements that is
exactly what is happening. If you pick up a phone and want tech support you
get somebody in India.

They are not free trade agreements. They are agreements not to tariff
fascist governments who tariff us and use foreign aid.

It is all about CHEAP.

DUH.

Have you ever seen somebody do prison time for hiring an illegal?
Never happen.


The Catholic Church have taken a stance which will speed their demise.


And you are worried about that so you joined a white supremist Baptist
church?

And you say I live in a fantasy world.

I don't see many citizens defending immigration nor an employer who
uses it for cheap labor.


The construction industry wouldn't exist and who do you think is rebuilding
New Orleans? What happened to Walmart?

The construction industry would exist without it. It is a proven fact.
What does Wal-Mart have to do with anything. They want to raise the
minimum wage, and yet their prices are very good. What does that tell
you? Wal-Mart wants to use the government to gain market share through
either unions or immigration.

Most are in the southwest so you must not live anywhere near there. If that
is the case why worry about it?

Because there are US citizens who live there.

You are either very ignorant or in denial.

Tell it yourself.


We were a nation of emigrants not just immigrants; and we are no longer
a nation of immigrants. You need to adjust yourself to this change.


When did we win the war on illegal immigrants? Please tell me when the tide
was stopped at the border?

Your lack of knowledge is showing again. Immigration is not a trade
issue; rather it is a law enforcement issue. Since when are we
obligated to have guest worker programs for non-english speaking
immigrants?
.
User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 31 Mar 2006 02:14:03 PM
"Fooj" <deanlangenfeld@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143831988.933867.249220@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


Robert wrote:

"Fooj" <deanlangenfeld@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > Correct

in

that sayings don't matter. <snip> Now that slavery is over the cheap

labor

had to be replaced with

recent immigrants.

Absolutely wrong.


You need to study history.

There wasn't a need. There was the desire for unreasonably cheap labor.
It an obvious conspiracy.

There wasn't a need? The chinese weren't needed for hard labor to build the
railroads in the 1800's because? The US has been outsourcing for years.


You just defended slavery again. Guest workers are

not US homeowners.


I am not defending anything. I am telling you the history of this

country

and why the illegals are here. Where did you get this US homeowner

stuff?

Guest workers don't own homes.

LOL. They live in shacks on hillsides. They do so in order to keep costs
down and send as much money as they can back to their home country. Did the
indians own their own homes before they were wiped out?


To say that immigration has not benefited the US is bizarre.
A US without immigrants is like the US baseball team that didn't

make it

to

the finals in the WBO.

Your defense of cheap labor is even more bizarre.


You live in a fantasy world. With all the free trade agreements that is
exactly what is happening. If you pick up a phone and want tech support

you

get somebody in India.

They are not free trade agreements. They are agreements not to tariff
fascist governments who tariff us and use foreign aid.

What else? The masons and zionist?


It is all about CHEAP.

DUH.

It seems you don't get it. Illegals are hired because they work cheaply.
DUH!!!!
People don't give a ***** about politics or fascist goverments. Get it?


Have you ever seen somebody do prison time for hiring an illegal?
Never happen.


The Catholic Church have taken a stance which will speed their demise.


And you are worried about that so you joined a white supremist Baptist
church?

And you say I live in a fantasy world.

You tell me where religion plays out in all of this? That's your fantasy and
not mine. I say it matter little. Nothing!! Zilch!!!


I don't see many citizens defending immigration nor an employer who
uses it for cheap labor.


The construction industry wouldn't exist and who do you think is

rebuilding

New Orleans? What happened to Walmart?

The construction industry would exist without it. It is a proven fact.

What proven fact is that? It is proven that immigrants did the hard labor
and those US citizens have no desire to do the work. There's no reason to.
Do you want to go work in the fields for $3 an hour. If you raise the wages
to attract the US labor force it would cost $50 an hour to pick fruit. Farms
would close and the entire food supply would come from where? You guessed
it.
It's a matter of national interest for this country to feed itself and not
depend on food from outside this country picked by cheap labor. The answer
is to bring the labor in.

What does Wal-Mart have to do with anything. They want to raise the
minimum wage, and yet their prices are very good. What does that tell
you? Wal-Mart wants to use the government to gain market share through
either unions or immigration.

They were charged and fined for hiring illegal workers. Walmart and yes the
entire country wide stores. Get a clue.


Most are in the southwest so you must not live anywhere near there. If

that

is the case why worry about it?

Because there are US citizens who live there.

You don't know anything about the southwest.


You are either very ignorant or in denial.

Tell it yourself.

No. You tell it to the president and every political party out there.
Stop bitching and coming up with feel good slogans.



We were a nation of emigrants not just immigrants; and we are no

longer

a nation of immigrants. You need to adjust yourself to this change.


When did we win the war on illegal immigrants? Please tell me when the

tide

was stopped at the border?

Your lack of knowledge is showing again. Immigration is not a trade
issue; rather it is a law enforcement issue. Since when are we
obligated to have guest worker programs for non-english speaking
immigrants?

We are not obligated to do anything. We can shoot every illegal out there.
We don't because we need them.
Immigration is an enforcement issue is correct. We don't enforce because we
need them and that is where we agree. We don't enforce at the schools. We
don't enforce at the hospitals. We don't enforce them at employment with no
penalities to employers. We don't enforce at the borders. We have one token
agent every twenty miles at the border.
There is no "will" to enforce. The president wants legal illegals.
If your worry is illegals then make them legal and your argument goes away.


.
User: "Fooj"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 31 Mar 2006 05:00:29 PM
Robert wrote:

"Fooj" <deanlangenfeld@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143831988.933867.249220@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


Robert wrote:

"Fooj" <deanlangenfeld@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > Correct

in

that sayings don't matter. <snip> Now that slavery is over the cheap

labor

had to be replaced with

recent immigrants.

Absolutely wrong.


You need to study history.

There wasn't a need. There was the desire for unreasonably cheap labor.
It an obvious conspiracy.


There wasn't a need? The chinese weren't needed for hard labor to build the
railroads in the 1800's because? The US has been outsourcing for years.

So what? There still wasn't a need. Needs are what is necessary.
Unreasonably cheap labor was and still is excuseless.


You just defended slavery again. Guest workers are

not US homeowners.


I am not defending anything. I am telling you the history of this

country

and why the illegals are here. Where did you get this US homeowner

stuff?

Guest workers don't own homes.


LOL. They live in shacks on hillsides. They do so in order to keep costs
down and send as much money as they can back to their home country. Did the
indians own their own homes before they were wiped out?

Yes, owned their homes. The laws are made because property already
exists.

You live in a fantasy world. With all the free trade agreements that is
exactly what is happening. If you pick up a phone and want tech support

you

get somebody in India.

They are not free trade agreements. They are agreements not to tariff
fascist governments who tariff us and use foreign aid.


What else? The masons and zionist?

You tried to redefine free trade. I simply corrected you error.

It is all about CHEAP.

DUH.


It seems you don't get it. Illegals are hired because they work cheaply.
DUH!!!!

DUH!!!

People don't give a ***** about politics or fascist goverments. Get it?

No, you don't get it.

Have you ever seen somebody do prison time for hiring an illegal?
Never happen.


The Catholic Church have taken a stance which will speed their demise.


And you are worried about that so you joined a white supremist Baptist
church?

And you say I live in a fantasy world.


You tell me where religion plays out in all of this? That's your fantasy and
not mine. I say it matter little. Nothing!! Zilch!!!

I was talking about politics not religion. You are still in fantasy
land evidently.

I don't see many citizens defending immigration nor an employer who
uses it for cheap labor.


The construction industry wouldn't exist and who do you think is

rebuilding

New Orleans? What happened to Walmart?

The construction industry would exist without it. It is a proven fact.


What proven fact is that? It is proven that immigrants did the hard labor
and those US citizens have no desire to do the work. <snip>

You state your opinion as fact. But the fact is the companies who hire
the cheap labor immigrant don't want to pay anyone what the job is
really worth.

It's a matter of national interest for this country to feed itself and not
depend on food from outside this country picked by cheap labor. The answer
is to bring the labor in.

Your are in f-a-n-t-a-s-y-l-a-n-d.

What does Wal-Mart have to do with anything. They want to raise the
minimum wage, and yet their prices are very good. What does that tell
you? Wal-Mart wants to use the government to gain market share through
either unions or immigration.


They were charged and fined for hiring illegal workers. Walmart and yes the
entire country wide stores. Get a clue.

And rightly so.

Most are in the southwest so you must not live anywhere near there. If

that

is the case why worry about it?

Because there are US citizens who live there.


You don't know anything about the southwest.

This contradicts many presuppositions.

You are either very ignorant or in denial.

Tell it [to] yourself.


No. You tell it to the president and every political party out there.
Stop bitching and coming up with feel good slogans.

What feel good slogans. Your show again to no suprise.

We were a nation of emigrants not just immigrants; and we are no

longer

a nation of immigrants. You need to adjust yourself to this change.


When did we win the war on illegal immigrants? Please tell me when the

tide

was stopped at the border?

Your lack of knowledge is showing again. Immigration is not a trade
issue; rather it is a law enforcement issue. Since when are we
obligated to have guest worker programs for non-english speaking
immigrants?


We are not obligated to do anything. We can shoot every illegal out there.
We don't because we need them.

Stop redefining the word need. You don't know what the word means.
.






User: "Terraz Barabel"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 29 Mar 2006 05:33:15 PM
Fooj wrote:

Robert wrote:

"bethb" <bethbbornstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143643655.543798.224810@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

You should take this type of commentary to a politically based
group...a bleeding heart liberal one.


Immigration is a bleeding heart conservative issue.

Abortion is correlated with affluence.

Not so... Abortion is often used as a means of birth control or planned
parenthood. Some couples do not wish to bother with contraceptives.
Contrary to expectations, the pill has not turned back the rising tide
of abortions. Many have repeat abortions
Also by obtaining fetal cells from the amniotic fluid doctors can test
for genetic defects in the baby. They also can tell the sex of the
baby. This is resorted to by some, and on the basis of this information
they decide whether to have an abortion or not. If it's a girl and
they want a boy, or if it's a boy and they want a girl, an abortion
eliminates the unwanted child. Same goes if no one knows what race the
father is, and somebody goofed at the sperm bank. Bye-Bye negroid,
gooksks and spics
Some doctors cash in on freshly aborted fetuses, selling them to drug
companies, research hospitals and various government agencies. The more
advanced the pregnancy, the more valuable the fetus. Some doctors are
suspected of encouraging both unnecessary abortions and abortions well
beyond the three-month period.
And you never know, that caviar you may be eating, might be discarded
embryos from an invitro lab.

Having children and large families is

a sign of poverty.

Or a trailer park like Mt Julliet TN.

Many republicans have shot
themselves in the foot by defending the immigration of cheap labor. It
isn't a specifically democrat or republican issue anymore.

Never was, The USA is a capatilistic society. to be filfty rich, you
must have the dirty poor to exploit.
.
User: "chuckie"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 29 Mar 2006 07:33:29 PM
http://groups.google.com/group/TrollandSpamStoppers?lnk=la&hl=en
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User: "Koi-lo"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 31 Mar 2006 08:02:04 PM
yawn
chuckie wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/TrollandSpamStoppers?lnk=la&hl=en

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User: "Terraz Barabel"

Title: Re: Evolution and Abortion: Natural Selection reasons for illegal imigration 28 Mar 2006 08:26:49 AM
huh?
Dryad wrote:

We all know that as human animals, we have no personal choice in life
and death decisions, we are at the whim and desire of natural
selection. The reason for illegal aliens gaining a big chunk of the
American economy is sole dictated by natural selection and evolution.
These forces have determine Americans as unfit to rule the land and
decided to give to Latin Americans. The way they have accomplish this
is thru forcing American to abort for weird reason, which instinct
dictates as natural.
Here is one:
"Health." The mother might feel mental stress if pregnancy interfered
with special schooling, or career, or social activities, or
vacation-almost any inconvenience that would "distress" her. She might
plead it would cause financial hardship, and be legally qualified for
an abortion. Or the family circle would be "disturbed."

.


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