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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "J Young"
Date: 20 Jun 2004 09:39:01 AM
Object: Fathers Day 2004
Let me take this opportunity to extend a Happy Fathers Day to all the
men who make a difference in the life a child.The role of fatherhood
has become undervalued in our society
today.Fathers,step-fathers,grandfathers,and father figures should all
be honored on this special day.With all the roles that men are
expected,and rightfully so,to fullfill in a child's life,the question
will always remain;Why doesn't a man have a say when the decision is
being made to kill his child? Equal rights should apply.
.

User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 02:46:50 AM
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2jrfonF14hq8bU2@uni-berlin.de...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?

=================
Did you ever meet a normal one? Seems all you and Bob talk about are the
*worst women* in your countries. All of which seem to be in your colleges
for some reason.
As for marriage. Why did your father marry your mother? Why does anyone
marry someone they love? Maybe you can educate us as to why anyone gets
married. Be specific now. ;-)
Doesn't it just GALL you to know you can't control women they way you would
like to control them? It seems to be driving you crazy. ;-) My husband
isn't into controlling women.
They type of women who allows herself to be controlled by men like you are
the least desirable women available.
--
Flower Power.......
ANTI-Feminist definition: "Sick abusive controlling men" -->
adj. 1. A man who consistently supports
UNequal legal rights while opposing feminine equality.
2. Someone losing a debate with a feminist.
3. A woman who refuses to kowtow to ANTI-feminist propaganda.
Usually used as an ad-homonym attack because he has no reply (like Bob).
Translation: "You're wrong, but won't admit it."
Synonyms: terribly confused, defective brain, take the IQ-test, morons,
taking meds,
seek professional help, had one too many hits of crack, etc.
===============================================
.
User: "Steenkin Man"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 04:47:21 AM
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 02:46:50 -0500, "Flower Power"
<SaveTheWomen@thisNG.edu> wrote:

As for marriage. Why did your father marry your mother?

I'm sure you were able to attend your parents' wedding and would have
done so had they ever married. I wasn't born when mine married so I
wasn't well-placed to question them.

My husband isn't into controlling women.

How is the doormat this morning? I trust he's as well as can be
expected, considering his unfortunate circumstances.
Your web site is looking very colourful. http://urlcut.com/flowerpower
Which children are yours?
--
num tibi mentireris?
.


User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 22 Jun 2004 05:27:27 PM
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2jrfonF14hq8bU2@uni-berlin.de...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?

Blind?
Mental retardation?
Handicapped?
Illegal?
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 02:53:10 AM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wcKdncIrm_92LEXdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...


"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2jrfonF14hq8bU2@uni-berlin.de...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Blind?
Mental retardation?
Handicapped?
Illegal?

Yes, controlling men are BLIND to the fact that women are individuals in
their own right. They are mentally/socially retarded, immature, impotent
individuals who can't handle a NORMAL women with good self-esteem and a
healthy self-image. Only those who are uneducated and have a poor self
image allow men to CONTROL them. They are handicapped because of their lack
of people skills. And yes, it's illegal to FORCE one's will on another
person. ;-)
--
Flower Power.......
ANTI-Feminist definition: "Sick abusive controlling men" -->
adj. 1. A man who consistently supports
UNequal legal rights while opposing feminine equality.
2. Someone losing a debate with a feminist.
3. A woman who refuses to kowtow to ANTI-feminist propaganda.
Usually used as an ad-homonym attack because he has no reply (like Bob).
Translation: "You're wrong, but won't admit it."
Synonyms: terribly confused, defective brain, take the IQ-test, morons,
taking meds,
seek professional help, had one too many hits of crack, etc.
===============================================
.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 22 Jun 2004 05:43:20 PM
In article <wcKdncIrm_92LEXdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2jrfonF14hq8bU2@uni-berlin.de...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Blind?
Mental retardation?
Handicapped?
Illegal?

Heishman explains how he finally found somebody desperate enough to
marry him.
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 02:54:57 AM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:220620041543201875%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <wcKdncIrm_92LEXdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2jrfonF14hq8bU2@uni-berlin.de...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Blind?
Mental retardation?
Handicapped?
Illegal?


Heishman explains how he finally found somebody desperate enough to
marry him.

=================================
We can imagine what she's like after seeing a picture of him and reading his
posts. You can be sure she's a real loser.... she took what she could get
rather then die a dried up old maid.
--
Flower Power........
One women dies giving birth every 30 minutes in Afghanistan.
Do they also warn women of the dangers of term pregnancy and
birth?.......like:
http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml
http://www.imnotsorry.net/
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
The risk of death associated with childbirth is about 11 times as high as
that associated with abortion.27
http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00054602.htm
http://www.afterabortion.org/news/deaths_smj.html
====================================================
====================================================
.
User: "Elmo"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 05:19:57 PM
In article <4Z-dnRL-49LOqkTdRVn-jw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<SaveTheWomen@thisNG.edu> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:220620041543201875%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <wcKdncIrm_92LEXdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2jrfonF14hq8bU2@uni-berlin.de...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Blind?
Mental retardation?
Handicapped?
Illegal?


Heishman explains how he finally found somebody desperate enough to
marry him.

=================================
We can imagine what she's like after seeing a picture of him and reading his
posts. You can be sure she's a real loser.... she took what she could get
rather then die a dried up old maid.

EEEEWWWW! I just got a visual!
.



User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 22 Jun 2004 10:50:01 PM
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:27:27 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2jrfonF14hq8bU2@uni-berlin.de...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Blind?
Mental retardation?
Handicapped?
Illegal?

Says the man who probably impregnated his wife just to show the
abortion newsgroups that he is "competent" at something.
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 02:56:21 AM
"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:8evhd0dotdfuhnhb46giinep1h42ff4tli@4ax.com...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:27:27 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2jrfonF14hq8bU2@uni-berlin.de...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Blind?
Mental retardation?
Handicapped?
Illegal?


Says the man who probably impregnated his wife just to show the
abortion newsgroups that he is "competent" at something.

========================================
Not realizing any chimp can impregnate the opposite sex....
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
.
User: "Steenkin Man"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 04:38:37 AM
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 02:56:21 -0500, "Flower Power"
<SaveTheWomen@thisNG.edu> wrote:

Not realizing any chimp can impregnate the opposite sex....

Really? Go on, show me the female chimp that impregnated one of the
opposite sex.
--
num tibi mentireris?
.




User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 22 Jun 2004 10:49:23 PM
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:31:20 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?

Because she's better than the 'normal' woman.
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 02:57:20 AM
"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:bdvhd0dica1linqm07maaies7h8fvb990l@4ax.com...

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:31:20 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Because she's better than the 'normal' woman.

==================================
Thank you. My husband would agree with that 100% :-)
--
FP.......
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
.

User: "Steenkin Man"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 03:22:29 AM
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:49:23 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:31:20 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Because she's better than the 'normal' woman.

We agree, then. She isn't normal.
--
num tibi mentireris?
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 03:38:40 PM
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:22:29 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:49:23 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:31:20 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Because she's better than the 'normal' woman.


We agree, then. She isn't normal.

She's _above_ normal.
.
User: "Steenkin Man"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 03:48:34 PM
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:38:40 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:22:29 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:49:23 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:31:20 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Because she's better than the 'normal' woman.


We agree, then. She isn't normal.


She's _above_ normal.

You fancy her, don't you?
--
num tibi mentireris?
.
User: "Sappywriter"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 27 Jun 2004 01:29:01 PM
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:48:34 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:38:40 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:22:29 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:49:23 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:31:20 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0500, "Flower Power"
<NoSlaves@thisNG.com> wrote:

I'm happily married


But your husband isn't.


Likely a SNAG pansy who badly needs help.

================================


He's not threatened by, or fearful of normal woman


Has he ever met a normal woman? If so, why did he marry you?


Because she's better than the 'normal' woman.


We agree, then. She isn't normal.


She's _above_ normal.


You fancy her, don't you?

Is that what you're hoping for?
.





User: "Steenkin Man"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 22 Jun 2004 08:46:26 AM
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 06:41:04 -0700, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
wrote:

You will continue to cower in your room with just the glow
of your computer monitor and post to soc.men.

You're afraid of the dark, aren't you?
When did you stop wetting the bed?
--
num tibi mentireris?
.

User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 21 Jun 2004 06:43:23 PM
Steenkin Man wrote:


On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:57:16 GMT, Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net>
wrote:

Steenkin Man wrote:


On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:30:50 GMT, Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net>
wrote:

Steenkin Man wrote:


On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:58:20 GMT, Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com>
wrote:


I think men and women are entitlted to make decision about the
biological processes within each of their respective bodies without
interference.


The law disagrees with you.

If you have typhoid, tuberculosis and a few other diseases, you are
not allowed to mix with the public and will be forcibly administered
medication if you refuse it.

Nobody in the Western world has autonomy over the "biological
processes within each of their respective bodies". Why should this be
different in pregnancy?


Pregnancy isn't contagious.


The fact remains that nobody has autonomy over the "biological
processes within each of their respective bodies".

Why should pregnant females be different?


If nobody has it, then women CAN'T be any different. However, they are
able to exert some influence on some "biological processes within each
of their respective bodies", thus they should be permitted to.


OK, just as long as they don't interfere with the biological processes
inside the baby's body.

Should the woman wish to terminate a process occurring entirely within
her body, then she has (and should have) every right to terminate it.

None of us is allowed to do anything with our bodies that would harm
anyone else.

Then why advocate that right be granted to a fetus?

You may have a right to jump off a tall building but you
do not have the right to land on a passerby.

You don't have is the right to aim for a passerby. ;-)

Why should pregnant females be different?

They aren't. They don't have the right to aim for people when jumping
off buildings either.
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 21 Jun 2004 08:30:12 PM
Frank Dwyer wrote:

Should the woman wish to terminate a process occurring entirely within
her body, then she has (and should have) every right to terminate it.

Yep, that's the classic feminist sexist line. All authority for women.
All their yapping about "equal rights" is blown out the window.
Trouble is, their yapping is sow wash.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 22 Jun 2004 12:50:44 AM
"Bob" <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40D78BA4.9070604@hotmail.com...

Frank Dwyer wrote:

Should the woman wish to terminate a process occurring entirely within
her body, then she has (and should have) every right to terminate it.


Yep, that's the classic feminist sexist line. All authority for women.
All their yapping about "equal rights" is blown out the window.

Trouble is, their yapping is sow wash.

Bob

=====================
How pitiful, and all because you're too weird, too socially retarded and
your personality is too distasteful to attract a female for a relationship.
Why not get help so you can have a normal relationship with a girl?
--
FP........
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~><> ><>
.

User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 21 Jun 2004 08:50:28 PM
Bob wrote:


Frank Dwyer wrote:

Should the woman wish to terminate a process occurring entirely within
her body, then she has (and should have) every right to terminate it.


Yep, that's the classic feminist sexist line. All authority for women.
All their yapping about "equal rights" is blown out the window.

Trouble is, their yapping is sow wash.

Pull your head out of your biased ***** and you might see that nowhere did
I say that the "father" shouldn't be afforded an equal right. Even
though it's quite obvious that you are nothing if you can't twist a
debate into some sort of feminist hating exchange, we simply aren't
discussing that portion of the right to choose.
But allow me to offer you the opoortunity to debate the issue you can't
live without...
Should men be afforded the choice as to whether they become legally
responsible for a child: Yes, but they aren't.
Should women be afforded the choice as to whether they wish to give
birth or not: Yes, and they are.
Now... is there something there you wish to discuss or will you be
slinking away to find a "fight" with someone you actually disagree with?
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 21 Jun 2004 09:12:51 PM
Frank Dwyer wrote:

Bob wrote:

Frank Dwyer wrote:

Should the woman wish to terminate a process occurring entirely within
her body, then she has (and should have) every right to terminate it.


Yep, that's the classic feminist sexist line. All authority for women.
All their yapping about "equal rights" is blown out the window.

Trouble is, their yapping is sow wash.



Pull your head out of your biased ***** and you might see that nowhere did
I say that the "father" shouldn't be afforded an equal right.

LIES don't change black into white dogbert. You have consistently
posted that only women have rights, becasue only women are women.

Even
though it's quite obvious that you are nothing if you can't twist a
debate into some sort of feminist hating exchange, we simply aren't
discussing that portion of the right to choose.

When you stop posting your feminist dogma about how only women have
"rights" we can talk. Until then you're relegated to the cowdung pile.

But allow me to offer you the opoortunity to debate the issue you can't
live without...

Should men be afforded the choice as to whether they become legally
responsible for a child: Yes, but they aren't.

Fathers should have equal legal rights to make all decisions regarding
our children, but we aren't, and sexist misandrists like you prevent it.

Should women be afforded the choice as to whether they wish to give
birth or not: Yes, and they are.

You can't even stop posting sexist crap long enough to deny doing it.
Pathetic. Women should have exclusive rights to choose, because women
are women. How very sexist of you.

Now... is there something there you wish to discuss or will you be
slinking away to find a "fight" with someone you actually disagree with?

With pathetic misandrists like you around, we don't need enemies.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
.
User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 21 Jun 2004 09:55:54 PM
Bob wrote:


<snip... rantings of someone so stupid that he actually WANTS to remain
ignorant>
Ah... so you're just a whiney little person with the mentality of a
child who has nothing better to do than selectively snip replies in an
effort to create some sort of combative forum.
Have fun. You aren't worth my time.
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 21 Jun 2004 11:50:14 PM
Frank Dwyer wrote:

Bob wrote:

<snip... rantings of someone so stupid that he actually WANTS to remain
ignorant>

Ah... so you're just a whiney little person with the mentality of a
child who has nothing better to do than selectively snip replies in an
effort to create some sort of combative forum.
Have fun. You aren't worth my time.

Another "white knight" rides to defend feminists.
Pathetic.
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
.
User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 22 Jun 2004 12:49:29 AM
Bob wrote:


Frank Dwyer wrote:

Bob wrote:

<snip... rantings of someone so stupid that he actually WANTS to remain
ignorant>

Ah... so you're just a whiney little person with the mentality of a
child who has nothing better to do than selectively snip replies in an
effort to create some sort of combative forum.
Have fun. You aren't worth my time.


Another "white knight" rides to defend feminists.

Hardly. Thanks for the compliment though.

Pathetic.

Indeed you are. Grow a set of balls yet, or a brain?
.






User: "Steenkin Man"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 22 Jun 2004 05:39:14 AM
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 23:43:23 GMT, Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net>
wrote:

OK, just as long as they don't interfere with the biological processes
inside the baby's body.


Should the woman wish to terminate a process occurring entirely within
her body, then she has (and should have) every right to terminate it.

"Rights" are granted and removed by legislation. There are no
permanent rights under any legal code because no legal code will ever
be permanent.

None of us is allowed to do anything with our bodies that would harm
anyone else.


Then why advocate that right be granted to a fetus?

Show me the foetus that deliberately tries to harm his mother and
we'll talk about it.
--
num tibi mentireris?
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 12:34:07 AM
Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net>

OK, just as long as they don't interfere with the biological processes
inside the baby's body.


Should the woman wish to terminate a process occurring entirely within
her body, then she has (and should have) every right to terminate it.


"Rights" are granted and removed by legislation. There are no
permanent rights under any legal code because no legal code will ever
be permanent.

Liberty is a fundamental right enshrined in the Constitution.

None of us is allowed to do anything with our bodies that would harm
anyone else.


Then why advocate that right be granted to a fetus?


Show me the foetus that deliberately tries to harm his mother

Why does it matter whether it's "deliberate"?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Steenkin Man"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 03:22:26 AM
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 05:34:07 GMT,
(Ray
Fischer) wrote:

Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net>


OK, just as long as they don't interfere with the biological processes
inside the baby's body.


Should the woman wish to terminate a process occurring entirely within
her body, then she has (and should have) every right to terminate it.


"Rights" are granted and removed by legislation. There are no
permanent rights under any legal code because no legal code will ever
be permanent.


Liberty is a fundamental right enshrined in the Constitution.

I presume you mean the US Constitution, although there are many
others.
Liberty, as "enshrined" in the US Constitution, is something to be
interpreted and re-interpreted by politicians. There has never been a
time in American history when Liberty was available to all the
non-criminal population.

None of us is allowed to do anything with our bodies that would harm
anyone else.


Then why advocate that right be granted to a fetus?


Show me the foetus that deliberately tries to harm his mother


Why does it matter whether it's "deliberate"?

Are you now only advocating killing the baby when there is danger to
the mother?
--
num tibi mentireris?
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 10:35:00 PM
Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net>

OK, just as long as they don't interfere with the biological processes
inside the baby's body.


Should the woman wish to terminate a process occurring entirely within
her body, then she has (and should have) every right to terminate it.


"Rights" are granted and removed by legislation. There are no
permanent rights under any legal code because no legal code will ever
be permanent.


Liberty is a fundamental right enshrined in the Constitution.


I presume you mean the US Constitution, although there are many
others.

Liberty, as "enshrined" in the US Constitution, is something to be
interpreted and re-interpreted by politicians.

In your opinion. Forced servitude is illegal, even for pregnant women.

None of us is allowed to do anything with our bodies that would harm
anyone else.


Then why advocate that right be granted to a fetus?


Show me the foetus that deliberately tries to harm his mother


Why does it matter whether it's "deliberate"?


Are you now only advocating killing the baby when there is danger to
the mother?

I don't advocate killing anything, idiot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.


User: "spammy"

Title: Re: Fathers Day 2004 23 Jun 2004 12:14:12 PM
Ray Fischer wrote:

Liberty is a fundamental right enshrined in the Constitution.

So the Constitution says. The Supreme Court hasn't followed it for
over a century, instead enshrining "policy imperatives" and
"legitimate governmental goals" as the standard for lawmaking.
.





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