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User: "Osprey"
Date: 29 May 2004 06:32:35 PM
Object: Gas companies that import
This was sent to me, I am not the originator of this; however, I thought it
was interesting and it should be passed on
....................
Where to Buy Gas
The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An
interesting thought it to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the car,
you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy
from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.
Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the
tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family,
and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil
companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import
Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01):
Shell.........................205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco.........144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil..............130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway...117,740,000 barrels
Amoco......................62,231,000 barrels
If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!
Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
Citgo....................0 barrels
Sunoco............. .0 barrels
Conoco............. ..0 barrels
Sinclair............... 0 barrels
BP/Phillips.......... 0 barrels
Hess...................0 barrels
All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each
is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importing.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers.
It's really simple to do. Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading
and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at
least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more
(300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth
generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If
those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then
30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further,
you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. How would all that
take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day
all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next eight
days!
--
.

User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import - another Osprey OFF TOPIC post. 29 May 2004 09:26:26 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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This was sent to me, I am not the originator of this; however, I thought

it

was interesting and it should be passed on

==========================
For someone who complains about EVERYTHING this is as OFF TOPIC as you can
get. Maybe someone needs to contact your ISP and file a complaint.
--
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
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.

User: "Shawn Hearn"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 30 May 2004 10:56:26 AM
In article <I6CdnbYdbb7LgCTdRVn-hg@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

This was sent to me, I am not the originator of this; however, I thought it
was interesting and it should be passed on

...................


Where to Buy Gas



The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An
interesting thought it to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the car,
you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy
from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the
tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family,
and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil
companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import
Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01):

Shell.........................205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco.........144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil..............130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway...117,740,000 barrels
Amoco......................62,231,000 barrels

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

A ludicrous proposition. Do you really think that just because a gas
station has the name "Shell" on it, that it gets all its gas from a
Shell refinery?
The best way to reduce the price of gas is to reduce demand for gas.
Like any commodity, the price of gas is "driven" by consumer demand.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 30 May 2004 04:04:04 PM
"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-C07764.11562630052004@news-60.giganews.com...

In article <I6CdnbYdbb7LgCTdRVn-hg@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

This was sent to me, I am not the originator of this; however, I thought

it

was interesting and it should be passed on

...................


Where to Buy Gas



The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An
interesting thought it to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the

car,

you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just

buy

from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up

the

tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my

family,

and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which

oil

companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import
Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01):

Shell.........................205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco.........144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil..............130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway...117,740,000 barrels
Amoco......................62,231,000 barrels

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18

BILLION!


Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:


A ludicrous proposition. Do you really think that just because a gas
station has the name "Shell" on it, that it gets all its gas from a
Shell refinery?

The best way to reduce the price of gas is to reduce demand for gas.
Like any commodity, the price of gas is "driven" by consumer demand.

So you are going to reduce the demand in China?
You snipped a lot. One important part you snipped is the source that shows
where these companies import their gas.
All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each
is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importing.
.
User: "Pr0r3p"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 30 May 2004 10:01:42 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<xMedne0CUduQ0SfdRVn-tA@comcast.com>...

"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-C07764.11562630052004@news-60.giganews.com...

In article <I6CdnbYdbb7LgCTdRVn-hg@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

This was sent to me, I am not the originator of this; however, I thought

it

was interesting and it should be passed on

...................


Where to Buy Gas



The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An
interesting thought it to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the

car,

you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just

buy

from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up

the

tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my

family,

and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which

oil

companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import
Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01):

Shell.........................205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco.........144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil..............130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway...117,740,000 barrels
Amoco......................62,231,000 barrels

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18

BILLION!


Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:


A ludicrous proposition. Do you really think that just because a gas
station has the name "Shell" on it, that it gets all its gas from a
Shell refinery?

The best way to reduce the price of gas is to reduce demand for gas.
Like any commodity, the price of gas is "driven" by consumer demand.


So you are going to reduce the demand in China?

Why do I care what the demand in China is, we're talking prices in
AMERICA, dipshit.


You snipped a lot. One important part you snipped is the source that shows
where these companies import their gas.

What does this have anything to do with his response? He stated that
the name on the building (Shell, Sunoco, etc) doesn't mean they are
actually buying their gas from a Shellor Sunoco refinery, which means
you may be buying gasoline you believe to not be imported but in fact
it is.
Learn to read, you damn ignorant piece-of-*****...


All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each
is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importing.

So what? It doesn't mean ***** about where the gas sitting in the
tanks at the local Shell, Sunoco or BP actually came from...
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 31 May 2004 06:35:22 AM
On 30 May 2004 20:01:42 -0700,
(Pr0r3p) in
alt.abortion with message-id
<b41296b4.0405301901.46f7602a@posting.google.com> wrote:


So you are going to reduce the demand in China?


Why do I care what the demand in China is, we're talking prices in
AMERICA, dipshit.

The demand in China is a major reason prices are so high here. It's
called supply and demand. It doesn't matter where the demand is.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 31 May 2004 10:29:16 PM
Attila <Attila> wrote:

So you are going to reduce the demand in China?


Why do I care what the demand in China is, we're talking prices in
AMERICA, dipshit.


The demand in China is a major reason prices are so high here.

The reason prices are so high right now is because 1) US demand for
gasoline is very high and is increasing. Even as Americans use more
gas, few if any refineries are being built.
2) Instability in the mideast. Uncertainty drives up prices and
Bush's little invasion of Iraq and threats towards other mideast
nations has pushing up the price for crude.

It's
called supply and demand. It doesn't matter where the demand is.

25% of the world's demand is in the US.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 01 Jun 2004 05:30:35 AM
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 03:29:16 GMT,
(Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c9gt6b$2s5$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:

Attila <Attila> wrote:

So you are going to reduce the demand in China?


Why do I care what the demand in China is, we're talking prices in
AMERICA, dipshit.


The demand in China is a major reason prices are so high here.


The reason prices are so high right now is because 1) US demand for
gasoline is very high and is increasing. Even as Americans use more
gas, few if any refineries are being built.

Worldwide demand for oil is very high and increasing. China is now
modernizing and for the first time is a major importer. Since there
is only so much oil available and there is a larger market the price
is higher.
I don;t like it any more than you do. I remember gas at .18 (yes, 18
cents) a gallon and would prefer it there again.


2) Instability in the mideast. Uncertainty drives up prices and
Bush's little invasion of Iraq and threats towards other mideast
nations has pushing up the price for crude.

It's
called supply and demand. It doesn't matter where the demand is.


25% of the world's demand is in the US.

But 75 % is not. A few years ago that was 35% or 40% in the US. A
few years from now it will be 15% or 20% even if the absolute numbers
keep rising. It's simply a case of everyone wanting more oil.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 01 Jun 2004 10:57:04 PM
Attila <Attila> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)

Attila <Attila> wrote:

So you are going to reduce the demand in China?


Why do I care what the demand in China is, we're talking prices in
AMERICA, dipshit.


The demand in China is a major reason prices are so high here.


The reason prices are so high right now is because 1) US demand for
gasoline is very high and is increasing. Even as Americans use more
gas, few if any refineries are being built.


Worldwide demand for oil is very high and increasing. China is now
modernizing and for the first time is a major importer. Since there
is only so much oil available and there is a larger market the price
is higher.

I don;t like it any more than you do.

It doesn't bother me.

I remember gas at .18 (yes, 18
cents) a gallon and would prefer it there again.

Gas is $2+/gal but people still buy gas-guzzling SUVs.
Obviously it's still not too expensive and the oil companies would be
stupid to lower the price.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 01 Jun 2004 11:06:52 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jj6g$911$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Attila <Attila> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)

Attila <Attila> wrote:


So you are going to reduce the demand in China?


Why do I care what the demand in China is, we're talking prices in
AMERICA, dipshit.


The demand in China is a major reason prices are so high here.


The reason prices are so high right now is because 1) US demand for
gasoline is very high and is increasing. Even as Americans use more
gas, few if any refineries are being built.


Worldwide demand for oil is very high and increasing. China is now
modernizing and for the first time is a major importer. Since there
is only so much oil available and there is a larger market the price
is higher.

I don;t like it any more than you do.


It doesn't bother me.

I remember gas at .18 (yes, 18
cents) a gallon and would prefer it there again.


Gas is $2+/gal but people still buy gas-guzzling SUVs.

Obviously it's still not too expensive and the oil companies would be
stupid to lower the price.

Go tell that to the elderly who have to pay for their heating oil and gas
this winter you heartless S.O.B.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 01 Jun 2004 11:32:03 PM
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jj6g$911$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Attila <Attila> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)

Attila <Attila> wrote:


So you are going to reduce the demand in China?


Why do I care what the demand in China is, we're talking prices in
AMERICA, dipshit.


The demand in China is a major reason prices are so high here.


The reason prices are so high right now is because 1) US demand for
gasoline is very high and is increasing. Even as Americans use more
gas, few if any refineries are being built.


Worldwide demand for oil is very high and increasing. China is now
modernizing and for the first time is a major importer. Since there
is only so much oil available and there is a larger market the price
is higher.

I don;t like it any more than you do.


It doesn't bother me.

I remember gas at .18 (yes, 18
cents) a gallon and would prefer it there again.


Gas is $2+/gal but people still buy gas-guzzling SUVs.

Obviously it's still not too expensive and the oil companies would be
stupid to lower the price.


Go tell that to the elderly who have to pay for their heating oil and gas
this winter you heartless S.O.B.

Snicker. Quite the socialist, aren't you? What's next? Have the government
take over ownership of the oil companies?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 02 Jun 2004 09:30:02 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jj6g$911$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Attila <Attila> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)

Attila <Attila> wrote:


So you are going to reduce the demand in China?


Why do I care what the demand in China is, we're talking prices in
AMERICA, dipshit.


The demand in China is a major reason prices are so high here.


The reason prices are so high right now is because 1) US demand for
gasoline is very high and is increasing. Even as Americans use more
gas, few if any refineries are being built.


Worldwide demand for oil is very high and increasing. China is now
modernizing and for the first time is a major importer. Since there
is only so much oil available and there is a larger market the price
is higher.

I don;t like it any more than you do.


It doesn't bother me.

I remember gas at .18 (yes, 18
cents) a gallon and would prefer it there again.


Gas is $2+/gal but people still buy gas-guzzling SUVs.

Obviously it's still not too expensive and the oil companies would be
stupid to lower the price.


Go tell that to the elderly who have to pay for their heating oil and gas
this winter you heartless S.O.B.


Snicker. Quite the socialist, aren't you? What's next? Have the

government

take over ownership of the oil companies?

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter because
people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?
.
User: "pr0r3p"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 02 Jun 2004 12:45:59 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>...

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jl82$bko$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Attila <Attila> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)

Attila <Attila> wrote:


So you are going to reduce the demand in China?


Why do I care what the demand in China is, we're talking prices in
AMERICA, dipshit.


The demand in China is a major reason prices are so high here.


The reason prices are so high right now is because 1) US demand for
gasoline is very high and is increasing. Even as Americans use more
gas, few if any refineries are being built.


Worldwide demand for oil is very high and increasing. China is now
modernizing and for the first time is a major importer. Since there
is only so much oil available and there is a larger market the price
is higher.

I don;t like it any more than you do.


It doesn't bother me.

I remember gas at .18 (yes, 18
cents) a gallon and would prefer it there again.


Gas is $2+/gal but people still buy gas-guzzling SUVs.

Obviously it's still not too expensive and the oil companies would be
stupid to lower the price.


Go tell that to the elderly who have to pay for their heating oil and gas
this winter you heartless S.O.B.


Snicker. Quite the socialist, aren't you? What's next? Have the

government

take over ownership of the oil companies?


What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter because
people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?

You wanted this war, but as usual you now want to dump the problems
associated with it on someone else's shoulders. Why don't you ask you
benevolent leader, who started this war, how _HE_ plans to take care
of these people? It's time you started putting the blame where it
belongs, *****.
.

User: "Ron Nicholson"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 12:14:34 AM
In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter because
people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?

It seems that you want to others to provide for those who chose not to
do it for themselves. Did those people think about education, jobs,
savings or what there future might look like?
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 04:54:30 AM
Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter because
people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who chose not to
do it for themselves. Did those people think about education, jobs,
savings or what there future might look like?

So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about education in
the 30's, she should suffer today?
.
User: "Ron Nicholson"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 05:05:51 AM
In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
(osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <

> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter because
people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who chose not to
do it for themselves. Did those people think about education, jobs,
savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about education in
the 30's, she should suffer today?

Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made the choice
not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who might not
have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and considering
an abortion.
You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not for the
other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences of her
choices in one situation, but not the other.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 08:11:40 AM
"Ron Nicholson" <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:balie-45BF71.06055206062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter

because

people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who chose not to
do it for themselves. Did those people think about education, jobs,
savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about education in
the 30's, she should suffer today?


Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made the choice
not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who might not
have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and considering
an abortion.

You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not for the
other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences of her
choices in one situation, but not the other.

You would think that liberals would be screaming for federal programs to
help the elderly.
Since liberals believe the government should have a million social programs.
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 08:30:24 AM
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:11:40 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ron Nicholson" <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:balie-45BF71.06055206062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter

because

people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who chose not to
do it for themselves. Did those people think about education, jobs,
savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about education in
the 30's, she should suffer today?


Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made the choice
not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who might not
have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and considering
an abortion.

You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not for the
other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences of her
choices in one situation, but not the other.


You would think that liberals would be screaming for federal programs to
help the elderly.
Since liberals believe the government should have a million social programs.

And you are the beneficiary of some of those social programs.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 08:33:26 AM
"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:11:40 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ron Nicholson" <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:balie-45BF71.06055206062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message

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In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter

because

people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who chose not

to

do it for themselves. Did those people think about education, jobs,
savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about education in
the 30's, she should suffer today?


Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made the

choice

not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who might not
have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and

considering

an abortion.

You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not for the
other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences of her
choices in one situation, but not the other.


You would think that liberals would be screaming for federal programs to
help the elderly.
Since liberals believe the government should have a million social

programs.


And you are the beneficiary of some of those social programs.

Yes, that I earned through service to my country.
And my children are benefiting from my services as well.
Not one benefit wasn't earned.
If you don't like it, write your congressman or senator.
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 08:37:04 AM
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:33:26 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:11:40 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ron Nicholson" <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:balie-45BF71.06055206062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter

because

people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who chose not

to

do it for themselves. Did those people think about education, jobs,
savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about education in
the 30's, she should suffer today?


Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made the

choice

not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who might not
have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and

considering

an abortion.

You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not for the
other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences of her
choices in one situation, but not the other.


You would think that liberals would be screaming for federal programs to
help the elderly.
Since liberals believe the government should have a million social

programs.


And you are the beneficiary of some of those social programs.


Yes, that I earned through service to my country.

And other people have served their country in other ways and don't get
nearly a quarter of what you rake in, in benefits.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 08:44:12 AM
"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:ee76c0l11mp5lkbakonksu7cpahodlbsok@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:33:26 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:cu66c0touhf7tkl4tm5tue43qgsgmkfca2@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:11:40 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ron Nicholson" <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:balie-45BF71.06055206062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this

winter

because

people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who chose

not

to

do it for themselves. Did those people think about education,

jobs,

savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about education

in

the 30's, she should suffer today?


Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made the

choice

not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who might

not

have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and

considering

an abortion.

You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not for

the

other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences of

her

choices in one situation, but not the other.


You would think that liberals would be screaming for federal programs

to

help the elderly.
Since liberals believe the government should have a million social

programs.


And you are the beneficiary of some of those social programs.


Yes, that I earned through service to my country.


And other people have served their country in other ways and don't get
nearly a quarter of what you rake in, in benefits.

You want to make a bet????
Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE than I
get.
I only received 30%, that is basically a low percentage. Primarily due to
lung damage I got from
scraping up body parts and escorting them through identification and their
autopsies.
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 09:15:23 AM
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:44:12 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:ee76c0l11mp5lkbakonksu7cpahodlbsok@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:33:26 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:cu66c0touhf7tkl4tm5tue43qgsgmkfca2@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:11:40 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ron Nicholson" <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:balie-45BF71.06055206062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this

winter

because

people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who chose

not

to

do it for themselves. Did those people think about education,

jobs,

savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about education

in

the 30's, she should suffer today?


Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made the

choice

not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who might

not

have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and

considering

an abortion.

You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not for

the

other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences of

her

choices in one situation, but not the other.


You would think that liberals would be screaming for federal programs

to

help the elderly.
Since liberals believe the government should have a million social

programs.


And you are the beneficiary of some of those social programs.


Yes, that I earned through service to my country.


And other people have served their country in other ways and don't get
nearly a quarter of what you rake in, in benefits.


You want to make a bet????

Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE than I
get.

And private sector workers who haven't served in the military, but
work to prepare your food, produce your household products, the people
who answer the phone to rectify your trivial complaints, the people
who work in nursing homes, the people who work with the folks who are
developmentally disabled, the parents who raise your future benefits
payers, get absolutely *****-all.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 09:29:20 AM
"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:lj96c01j81ela1qn22ua98v2o0ui2daghm@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:44:12 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:ee76c0l11mp5lkbakonksu7cpahodlbsok@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:33:26 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:cu66c0touhf7tkl4tm5tue43qgsgmkfca2@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:11:40 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ron Nicholson" <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message


news:balie-45BF71.06055206062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message


news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this

winter

because

people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who

chose

not

to

do it for themselves. Did those people think about education,

jobs,

savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about

education

in

the 30's, she should suffer today?


Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made the

choice

not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who

might

not

have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and

considering

an abortion.

You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not

for

the

other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences of

her

choices in one situation, but not the other.


You would think that liberals would be screaming for federal

programs

to

help the elderly.
Since liberals believe the government should have a million social

programs.


And you are the beneficiary of some of those social programs.


Yes, that I earned through service to my country.


And other people have served their country in other ways and don't get
nearly a quarter of what you rake in, in benefits.


You want to make a bet????

Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE than

I

get.


And private sector workers who haven't served in the military, but
work to prepare your food, produce your household products, the people
who answer the phone to rectify your trivial complaints, the people
who work in nursing homes, the people who work with the folks who are
developmentally disabled, the parents who raise your future benefits
payers, get absolutely *****-all.

Complain to your congressman and senator then.
I happen to agree with you, they deserve entitlements.
But if you don't like how things are, then go do something for them instead
of sitting in here wasting away empty words.
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 09:37:52 AM
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 10:29:20 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:lj96c01j81ela1qn22ua98v2o0ui2daghm@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:44:12 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:ee76c0l11mp5lkbakonksu7cpahodlbsok@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:33:26 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:cu66c0touhf7tkl4tm5tue43qgsgmkfca2@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:11:40 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ron Nicholson" <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message


news:balie-45BF71.06055206062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message


news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this

winter

because

people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who

chose

not

to

do it for themselves. Did those people think about education,

jobs,

savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about

education

in

the 30's, she should suffer today?


Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made the

choice

not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who

might

not

have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and

considering

an abortion.

You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not

for

the

other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences of

her

choices in one situation, but not the other.


You would think that liberals would be screaming for federal

programs

to

help the elderly.
Since liberals believe the government should have a million social

programs.


And you are the beneficiary of some of those social programs.


Yes, that I earned through service to my country.


And other people have served their country in other ways and don't get
nearly a quarter of what you rake in, in benefits.


You want to make a bet????

Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE than

I

get.


And private sector workers who haven't served in the military, but
work to prepare your food, produce your household products, the people
who answer the phone to rectify your trivial complaints, the people
who work in nursing homes, the people who work with the folks who are
developmentally disabled, the parents who raise your future benefits
payers, get absolutely *****-all.


Complain to your congressman and senator then.

Is that all you have to offer after just pronouncing that you have
held the "most important job" there is?
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 05:27:16 PM
"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:dpa6c05j6kb0tu144orh47manbt1ili90l@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 10:29:20 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:lj96c01j81ela1qn22ua98v2o0ui2daghm@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:44:12 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:ee76c0l11mp5lkbakonksu7cpahodlbsok@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:33:26 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Somesappywriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:cu66c0touhf7tkl4tm5tue43qgsgmkfca2@4ax.com...

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:11:40 -0400, "Osprey"

<noneedtoknow@mail.com>

wrote:


"Ron Nicholson" <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message


news:balie-45BF71.06055206062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

In article <8912d58d.0406060154.29703f00@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Ron Nicholson <balie@rogers.com> wrote in message


news:<balie-80160E.01144106062004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

In article <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze

this

winter

because

people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?


It seems that you want to others to provide for those who

chose

not

to

do it for themselves. Did those people think about

education,

jobs,

savings or what there future might look like?


So just because an 80 year old woman didn't think about

education

in

the 30's, she should suffer today?


Isn't that the complaint against women and abortion. She made

the

choice

not to deal with education and savings, just as the women who

might

not

have dealt with birth control and finds herself pregnant and

considering

an abortion.

You willing to make allowance for one woman's choices, but not

for

the

other? You seem to want a woman to experience the consequences

of

her

choices in one situation, but not the other.


You would think that liberals would be screaming for federal

programs

to

help the elderly.
Since liberals believe the government should have a million

social

programs.


And you are the beneficiary of some of those social programs.


Yes, that I earned through service to my country.


And other people have served their country in other ways and don't

get

nearly a quarter of what you rake in, in benefits.


You want to make a bet????

Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE

than

I

get.


And private sector workers who haven't served in the military, but
work to prepare your food, produce your household products, the people
who answer the phone to rectify your trivial complaints, the people
who work in nursing homes, the people who work with the folks who are
developmentally disabled, the parents who raise your future benefits
payers, get absolutely *****-all.


Complain to your congressman and senator then.


Is that all you have to offer after just pronouncing that you have
held the "most important job" there is?

I have never said I held "the most important job"
And you snipped out the part where I said I agreed with your concern above.
But sitting there arguing with me about it and wanting to nit pick isn't
helping those people out either.
If you truly want to help them, call your congressman and senator and
complain.
.



User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 10:54:27 AM
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:15:23 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<lj96c01j81ela1qn22ua98v2o0ui2daghm@4ax.com> wrote:


Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE than I
get.


And private sector workers who haven't served in the military, but
work to prepare your food, produce your household products, the people
who answer the phone to rectify your trivial complaints, the people
who work in nursing homes, the people who work with the folks who are
developmentally disabled, the parents who raise your future benefits
payers, get absolutely *****-all.

Most of whom arrived their by choice. No one chooses to step on a
land mine.
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 10:56:41 AM
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:54:27 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:15:23 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<lj96c01j81ela1qn22ua98v2o0ui2daghm@4ax.com> wrote:



Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE than I
get.


And private sector workers who haven't served in the military, but
work to prepare your food, produce your household products, the people
who answer the phone to rectify your trivial complaints, the people
who work in nursing homes, the people who work with the folks who are
developmentally disabled, the parents who raise your future benefits
payers, get absolutely *****-all.


Most of whom arrived their by choice. No one chooses to step on a
land mine.

True. That doesn;t mean they aren't serving their country, somehow.
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 02:52:57 PM
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:56:41 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<4lf6c0l8fblrdqgtatun01n2tbfq98i3m6@4ax.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:54:27 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:15:23 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<lj96c01j81ela1qn22ua98v2o0ui2daghm@4ax.com> wrote:



Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE than I
get.


And private sector workers who haven't served in the military, but
work to prepare your food, produce your household products, the people
who answer the phone to rectify your trivial complaints, the people
who work in nursing homes, the people who work with the folks who are
developmentally disabled, the parents who raise your future benefits
payers, get absolutely *****-all.


Most of whom arrived their by choice. No one chooses to step on a
land mine.


True. That doesn;t mean they aren't serving their country, somehow.

Correct. That is the responsibility of every citizen, but that does
not mean they must be paid for it. Not in money.
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 03:11:45 PM
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:52:57 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:56:41 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<4lf6c0l8fblrdqgtatun01n2tbfq98i3m6@4ax.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:54:27 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:15:23 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<lj96c01j81ela1qn22ua98v2o0ui2daghm@4ax.com> wrote:



Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE than I
get.


And private sector workers who haven't served in the military, but
work to prepare your food, produce your household products, the people
who answer the phone to rectify your trivial complaints, the people
who work in nursing homes, the people who work with the folks who are
developmentally disabled, the parents who raise your future benefits
payers, get absolutely *****-all.


Most of whom arrived their by choice. No one chooses to step on a
land mine.


True. That doesn;t mean they aren't serving their country, somehow.


Correct. That is the responsibility of every citizen, but that does
not mean they must be paid for it. Not in money.

People should work for free? (or people should serve in the military,
for free?)
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 06 Jun 2004 04:00:42 PM
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:11:45 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<7iu6c01k00nrr34kmm9rn642v1j52metpn@4ax.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:52:57 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:56:41 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<4lf6c0l8fblrdqgtatun01n2tbfq98i3m6@4ax.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:54:27 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:15:23 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<lj96c01j81ela1qn22ua98v2o0ui2daghm@4ax.com> wrote:



Go to a VA hospital
Oh, and I know PLENTY of veterans who get the same thing if not MORE than I
get.


And private sector workers who haven't served in the military, but
work to prepare your food, produce your household products, the people
who answer the phone to rectify your trivial complaints, the people
who work in nursing homes, the people who work with the folks who are
developmentally disabled, the parents who raise your future benefits
payers, get absolutely *****-all.


Most of whom arrived their by choice. No one chooses to step on a
land mine.


True. That doesn;t mean they aren't serving their country, somehow.


Correct. That is the responsibility of every citizen, but that does
not mean they must be paid for it. Not in money.


People should work for free? (or people should serve in the military,
for free?)

Work, no. But they should not expect a government handout just for
existing as so many seem to do.
I am not talking about the military, especially those wounded in
combat.
.














User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Gas companies that import 02 Jun 2004 09:47:03 AM
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 10:30:02 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <D7ydnU4J4NqWeSDdRVn-gw@comcast.com>
wrote:


Go tell that to the elderly who have to pay for their heating oil and gas
this winter you heartless S.O.B.


Snicker. Quite the socialist, aren't you? What's next? Have the

government

take over ownership of the oil companies?


What is your solution for the elderly who will freeze this winter because
people like you
think the gas prices are fine and shouldn't be lowered?

AS usual you have no clue as to how economics works. You probably
think a company can set it's own process and charge whatever it likes.
If it was only that simple.
Proud member of the Fishbreath KillFile Club.
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