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31 Jul 2006 10:50:37 PM |
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Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
http://family.org/cforum/extras/a0041462.cfm
Marriage isn't the only 'worthy' form of relationship, statement says.
To try to counter the family-values agenda, lesbian, gay and bisexual
activist groups joined hands recently to publicly announce a new agenda.
They issued a major statement called "Beyond Same-Sex Marriage: A New
Strategic Vision for All Our Families and Relationships."
"Our strategies must be visionary, creative and practical to counter the
right's powerful and effective use of marriage as a 'wedge' issue that pits
one group against another," the statement claims. "The struggle for marriage
rights should be part of a larger effort to strengthen the stability and
security of diverse households and families."
Dr. Janice Crouse of the Beverly LaHaye Institute at Concerned Women for
America said the statement is clear evidence that there is not only a "gay
agenda" - activists have no intention of giving up on it.
"I think it's a declaration of war," Crouse said. "It's a warning for those
of us that value the traditional family - where there's a mother and a
father and their children, either biological or adopted.
"This document very clearly says, 'Marriage is not the only worthy form of
family or of relationships.' They are clearly going for redefinition of what
it means to be a family."
Specifically, the groups advocate, in their words:
- Legal recognition for a wide range of relationships, households and
families - regardless of kinship or conjugal status.
- Access for all, regardless of marital or citizenship status, to vital
government support programs including, but not limited to, health care,
housing, Social Security and pension plans, disaster-recovery assistance,
unemployment insurance and welfare assistance.
The statement cites single-parent households or cohabitation of unrelated
elderly people as examples of relationships that need "protection."
Glenn T. Stanton, senior analyst for marriage and sexuality at Focus on the
Family Action, said it's now very clear that most gay activists never really
sought same-sex marriage. What they really want is "anything goes."
"This statement fails to take account of the fact that the government
recognizes, or sees, certain relationships as legal, because those
relationships are essential and necessary to society," Stanton said. "That
is, the society needs these relationships in order to be productive, healthy
and prosperous."
Interestingly, the gay activists and their supporters called for "separation
of church and state in all matters, including regulation and recognition of
relationships, households and families."
Stanton said, however, we don't find marriage just in Christian or religious
cultures.
"You find marriage in all human cultures," he said. "Marriage, as a
relationship between a man and a woman, is present in all human societies.
It's a human thing. So, if they're going to 'set themselves free,' they are
going to have to do it by the separation of humanity and state - rather than
the separation of religion and state. Religion is not what drives marriage;
humanity is what drives marriage."
For Gary Bauer, president of American Values, the gay-activist message to
America is clear.
"Translated, it means they want to change the subject," Bauer said. "I don't
blame them, after a series of humiliating defeats at the ballot box, and, at
least in recent weeks, a series of debates in what has been their
stronghold - which is the judiciary of the country. So clearly, they are
going back to the drawing board to try to come up with a different
strategy."
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
01 Aug 2006 09:30:40 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1vCdneBvtKRYUlPZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://family.org/cforum/extras/a0041462.cfm
Marriage isn't the only 'worthy' form of relationship, statement says.
http://family.org
Focus on the Family is an anti-gay organization that tells lies to spread
its agenda of hatred.
But you knew that.
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| User: "ef_hutterite" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
01 Aug 2006 11:12:01 AM |
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:30:40 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
Focus on the Family is an anti-gay organization
So?
They also are a pro-VALUES organization.
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| User: "Tak_a#344" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
01 Aug 2006 04:02:05 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:12:01 -0600, ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:30:40 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
Focus on the Family is an anti-gay organization
So?
They also are a pro-VALUES organization.
Great values. Hate, devisiveness, and bigotry. ;)
tak
a#344
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| User: "ef_hutterite" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
01 Aug 2006 04:44:20 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:02:05 GMT, Tak_a#344 <not@anadressyouass.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:12:01 -0600, ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:30:40 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
Focus on the Family is an anti-gay organization
So?
They also are a pro-VALUES organization.
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
01 Aug 2006 07:10:26 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "ef_hutterite" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
01 Aug 2006 08:17:00 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
02 Aug 2006 08:14:05 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed? How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "ef_hutterite" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
02 Aug 2006 11:01:07 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
02 Aug 2006 07:52:30 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "ef_hutterite" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
02 Aug 2006 08:32:22 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
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| User: "Dysperdis" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
02 Aug 2006 08:54:49 PM |
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"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
news:igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
So, watching momma cower while poppa throws dishes at her is more normal
than seeing a loving couple who just happen to have the same genitalia?
Bouncing around from foster family to foster family where the parents love
each other, but don't really give a ***** about the kids, is better for the
kid than having supporting parents who actually *care* about them?
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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02 Aug 2006 08:48:36 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
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| User: "ef_hutterite" |
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02 Aug 2006 09:03:58 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
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| User: "Dysperdis" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
02 Aug 2006 09:28:59 PM |
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"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
news:2cm2d2dd1l0i1u78gevbnm7f4dnof9s803@4ax.com...
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
So, are you campaigning to have that banned as well? Going up to divorcees
and accusing them of corrupting marriage, and being immoral?
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| User: "ef_hutterite" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
02 Aug 2006 11:03:19 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:28:59 GMT, "Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com>
wrote:
"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
news:2cm2d2dd1l0i1u78gevbnm7f4dnof9s803@4ax.com...
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
So, are you campaigning to have that banned as well?
No need to.
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| User: "Dysperdis" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
02 Aug 2006 11:32:52 PM |
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"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
news:ubt2d2huun9ldg6bi1lcql7kn9ehls45i0@4ax.com...
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:28:59 GMT, "Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com>
wrote:
"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
news:2cm2d2dd1l0i1u78gevbnm7f4dnof9s803@4ax.com...
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug
2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who
cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they
don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
So, are you campaigning to have that banned as well?
No need to.
Why is there no need to? Jesus himself said that divorce was not acceptable;
he never mentioned homosexuality. Why do you choose to fight the thing he
never mentioned, while turning a blind eye to the one he did?
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02 Aug 2006 11:43:38 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:32:52 GMT, "Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com>
wrote:
"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:28:59 GMT, "Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com>
wrote:
"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug
2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who
cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they
don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
So, are you campaigning to have that banned as well?
No need to.
Why is there no need to?
Because each faith has its take.
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03 Aug 2006 12:19:11 AM |
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"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:32:52 GMT, "Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com>
wrote:
"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:28:59 GMT, "Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com>
wrote:
"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug
2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug
2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage"
and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who
cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they
don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
So, are you campaigning to have that banned as well?
No need to.
Why is there no need to?
Because each faith has its take.
Yet, you're using your faith as a reason to ban same sex marriage.
*sniff sniff* smells like hypocracy....
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03 Aug 2006 10:13:18 AM |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:19:11 GMT, "Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com>
wrote:
*sniff sniff*
http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=12242
On July 26, the Washington Supreme Court declared that the state’s ban
on same-sex marriage is constitutional.
The 1998 Washington Defense of Marriage Act ( DOMA ) “bears a
reasonable relationship to legitimate state interests—procreation and
child-rearing.”
Nor is it a violation of the state constitution’s equal rights
provision; “neither a man nor a woman may marry a person of the same
sex … men and women are treated identically under DOMA.”
And it essentially turned to polling results to decide on the
protection of individual rights when it said, “community standards at
this time do not show a societal commitment to inclusion of same-sex
marriage as part of the fundamental right to marry.”
Madsen and the two justices who joined in her opinion acknowledged at
length the protections and benefits that accrue to heterosexual
couples who marry and that same-sex couples must undertake burdensome
efforts to try to approximate some of those same protections.
http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/civilrights/20060711/3/1902
The 4-2 decision of the New York State Court of Appeals denying that
same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry was more than
just a blow to the gay rights movement.
Rejecting comparisons between laws barring marriage between
African-Americans and whites and same sex marriage, the majority
decision said, "Racism has been recognized for centuries - at first by
a few people, and later by many more - as a revolting moral evil,"
while "the idea that same-sex marriage is even possible is a
relatively new one." The plaintiffs, said Judge Robert S. Smith,
""have not persuaded us that this long-accepted restriction is a
wholly irrational one, based solely on ignorance and prejudice against
homosexuals."
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03 Aug 2006 02:04:23 PM |
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"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:19:11 GMT, "Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com>
wrote:
*sniff sniff*
Thank you for once again posting articles chronicaling the prevalence of
state-supported bigorty. Now, answer this question, or admit that you are
nothing more than a hypocrit:
How can you allow divorce (which Jesus spoke against) due to the fact that,
despite the fact that your faith believes it to be wrong, different faiths
believe different things, while banning same sex marriage (which jesus never
mentioned) based on the the fact that your faith believes it to be wrong,
despite the fact that different faiths believe different things?
In other words, why ban one thing based on faith (despite it never being
mentioned by your religion's namesake) and allow another (which was
condemned by your religion's namesake)?
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03 Aug 2006 07:00:10 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:03:19 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<ubt2d2huun9ldg6bi1lcql7kn9ehls45i0@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:28:59 GMT, "Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com>
wrote:
"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
So, are you campaigning to have that banned as well?
No need to.
You are a total hypocrite. I was mistaken in thinking otherwise earlier.
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02 Aug 2006 09:37:20 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:03:58 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<2cm2d2dd1l0i1u78gevbnm7f4dnof9s803@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
Well, at least you have a little bit of consistency.
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02 Aug 2006 11:06:01 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:37:20 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:03:58 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<2cm2d2dd1l0i1u78gevbnm7f4dnof9s803@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
Well, at least you have a little bit of consistency.
ya....
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03 Aug 2006 07:01:03 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:06:01 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<2ht2d21eh3mg43uvacrqt4v251dumj5e7r@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:37:20 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:03:58 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<2cm2d2dd1l0i1u78gevbnm7f4dnof9s803@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:48:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:32:22 -0600, in alt.atheism
ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in
<igk2d2dqfd4dhoc5nksiin2cmbdq3k8pu6@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Wed, 02 Aug 2006
10:01:07 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:05 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
19:17:00 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
OK, due to cancer I'm sterile. Should my marriage be allowed?
You bet.
How
about marriages between people in their eighties, or people who cannot
phyically have children, or people whoi publically declare they don't
want kids?
Absolutely, because they are marriages between people who, under
NORMAL conditions, COULD have offspring.
Did you miss the part where I included people who cannot physically
have children? They cannot have kids. Should they be allowed to be
married?
You bet, they can at least provide normal pair bonding role modeling.
Are you as opposed to divorce as you are to gay marriage?
Personally, yes.
Well, at least you have a little bit of consistency.
ya....
Except that it turns out that you do not. You don't actually care about
divorce, you just want to punish those who you are bigoted against.
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01 Aug 2006 10:53:25 PM |
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ef_hutterite wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
Does this mean you are in favour of preventing post menopausal women
from marrying men? What about legislating against male/female couples,
where one partner is sterile/barren, from marrying? After all, they
can't have babies!
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+========= L. Michael Roberts - Goderich, Ontario, Canada ===========+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail or your public PGP key
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:53:25 -0400, "L. Michael Roberts"
<L_Michael_Roberts@nospam.com> wrote:
ef_hutterite wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:10:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> posting the following on Tue, 01 Aug 2006
15:44:20 -0600 iin alt.atheism?
Great values.
The best - traditional values.
Like slavery? Lynchings? Women being property under the law?
Like history, old news, long since abolished?
When gays can have ***** babies thay can lay claim to "marriage" and
all the other acoutrements of the NORMAL community!
Does this mean you are in favour of preventing post menopausal women
from marrying men? What about legislating against male/female couples,
where one partner is sterile/barren, from marrying? After all, they
can't have babies!
They can legally adopt children in all 50 states and the three
territories.
Next question:
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03 Aug 2006 11:56:51 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:07:10 GMT, <bibon@râlant.org> wrote:
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Does this mean you are in favour of preventing post menopausal women
from marrying men? What about legislating against male/female couples,
where one partner is sterile/barren, from marrying? After all, they
can't have babies!
They can legally adopt children in all 50 states and the three
territories.
Next question:
You never answered the question, you changed the subject. Try
again.
If fertlity is the measure of marriage are the infertile banned? Or
even just people who don't want children?
Tak
a#344
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On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:56:51 GMT, Tak_a#344 <not@anadressyouass.com>
wrote:
If fertlity is the measure of marriage are the infertile banned?
Shaddup moron!
http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=12242
On July 26, the Washington Supreme Court declared that the state’s ban
on same-sex marriage is constitutional.
The 1998 Washington Defense of Marriage Act ( DOMA ) “bears a
reasonable relationship to legitimate state interests—procreation and
child-rearing.”
Nor is it a violation of the state constitution’s equal rights
provision; “neither a man nor a woman may marry a person of the same
sex … men and women are treated identically under DOMA.”
And it essentially turned to polling results to decide on the
protection of individual rights when it said, “community standards at
this time do not show a societal commitment to inclusion of same-sex
marriage as part of the fundamental right to marry.”
Madsen and the two justices who joined in her opinion acknowledged at
length the protections and benefits that accrue to heterosexual
couples who marry and that same-sex couples must undertake burdensome
efforts to try to approximate some of those same protections.
http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/civilrights/20060711/3/1902
The 4-2 decision of the New York State Court of Appeals denying that
same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry was more than
just a blow to the gay rights movement.
Rejecting comparisons between laws barring marriage between
African-Americans and whites and same sex marriage, the majority
decision said, "Racism has been recognized for centuries - at first by
a few people, and later by many more - as a revolting moral evil,"
while "the idea that same-sex marriage is even possible is a
relatively new one." The plaintiffs, said Judge Robert S. Smith,
""have not persuaded us that this long-accepted restriction is a
wholly irrational one, based solely on ignorance and prejudice against
homosexuals."
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| User: "Tak_a#344" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
04 Aug 2006 04:08:35 AM |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:30:07 -0600, ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:56:51 GMT, Tak_a#344 <not@anadressyouass.com>
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If fertlity is the measure of marriage are the infertile banned?
Shaddup moron!
you still didn't answer the question.
Nice evade.
Tak a#344
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| User: "ef_hutterite" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Groups Announce Agenda 'Beyond Same-Sex Marriage' |
04 Aug 2006 11:43:44 AM |
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On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:08:35 GMT, Tak_a#344 <not@anadressyouass.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:30:07 -0600, ef_hutterite
<efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:56:51 GMT, Tak_a#344 <not@anadressyouass.com>
wrote:
If fertlity is the measure of marriage are the infertile banned?
Shaddup moron!
you still didn't
ESAD
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