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Science > Abortion |
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"papa jack" |
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18 Sep 2004 02:11:04 PM |
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George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot |
On September 17, 2004, Insight Magazine posted an article by
Col. John H. Wambough, Jr. USAF (Ret.) titled: "Left Wing
Allegations and Fraudulent Documents." Go to:
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/09/13/Commentary/Left-Wing.Allegations.And.
Fraudulent.Documents-722501.shtml
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Excerpts:
"George Bush and I were fighter pilots. Lt. Bush flew F-102s
in the Air National Guard (ANG) -- 111th Fighter Interceptor
Squadron (FIS); I flew F-105s in combat -- 34th Tactical
Fighter Squadron (TFS).
"Both our flying assignments were inherently dangerous -- Lt.
Bush's because of the high performance nature of the fighter
interceptor aircraft he was flying, the training required to
fly the F-102, and the high risks that come with all weather
(night and day) intercept missions.
"Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic National Committee's Mr.Terry
McAuliffe and the anti-war (weak on National Security) left
wing of the Democrat Party have relentlessly attacked the
service of Lt. Bush and by inference other pilots and service
members in the ANG and Reserve forces as cowards and shirkers
of responsibility for not being in Vietnam.
[...]
"I can say from my experience that flying operational fighter
jets is highly dangerous. People don't strap fighter jets to
their backside if they are overly concerned for their future.
While in F-105 training at McConnell AFB in early 1968, we
lost five aircraft in six weeks...
[...]
"We got really good at flying "Missing Man Formations" and
doing memorial services for our fallen comrades and their
families. I can assure you Lt. Bush was continuously exposed
to similar dangers during all weather scrambles and during
training exercises as evidenced by the F-102 pilots killed
in his unit.
[...]
"In November 1970, the Commander of the Texas Air National
Guard, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, called Mr. Bush, then 24,
'a dynamic outstanding young officer' who stood out as 'a
top-notch fighter interceptor pilot.' 'Lt. Bush's skills
far exceed his contemporaries,' Colonel Killian wrote: 'He
is a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for
leadership. Lt. Bush is also a good follower with outstand-
ing disciplinary traits and an impeccable military bearing.'
[...]
"There is a much bigger story to be told than anything related
to Lt. Bush's honorable service to our country. It is the
story of a fringe element of the Democrat Party (as represented
by Sen. Kerry from Massachusetts and Mr. Terry McAuliffe of
the DNC) that will stoop to any depth to obtain political power
to include: attacking the motives of our service members (ANG
and Reserve); it is a fringe element that is willing to under-
mine the confidence of our fighting forces in their commander-
in-chief in the midst of our global war on terrorism; it is a
fringe element that places political power higher on their
priority list than U.S. National Security; otherwise, they
wouldn't be denigrating and diminishing ANG and Reserve Service
in an effort to undermine the credibility of the commander-in-
chief of our Armed Forces.
[...]
"Although it is fair to recognize Sen. Kerry's four month war
record and medals, it is what he did after leaving the military
that deserves the greatest scrutiny. He became a turn coat by
misrepresenting to the American public what our soldiers were
doing in Southeast Asia.
"As part of the anti-war movement with Jane Fonda, he maligned,
mocked and discredited our soldiers while they were still engaged
in battle. He lied about what our soldiers were doing in combat.
He defamed our brave fighting men. The ultimate insult our citi-
zens could inflict on the Armed Forces of the United States would
be to vote into office (as commander-in-chief) the person who
betrayed his comrades in arms while they were still fighting and
dying on the battlefield and in air combat.
"As we all know, since Sept. 11, 2001 our country has been at war
with international terrorism. Instead of supporting our national
leadership (in taking the battle to our terrorist enemies), a cabal
of power-hungry politicians, supported by the liberal media elites
and their vitriolic followers, have done everything they can to
undermine our war on terror, our troops and the commander-in-chief
of our armed forces.
[...]
{John Wambough is a retired Air Force colonel with 28 years of
service.
During his career in the Air Force, Colonel Wambough flew F-105
and F-111
tactical fighter aircraft. His combat tour in Southeast Asia was
in the
F-105s with the 34th Tactical Fighter Squadron. Also, he served
in Current
Operations at 7th Air Force Headquarters, TanSon Nhut Air Base,
RVN. He
was a Fighter Squadron Commander (F - 111E aircraft, 55 TFS,
Royal Air
Force, Upper Heyford, United Kingdom) and later Group Commander
at the
same base. He served on the Air Staff and Joint Staff in the
Pentagon --
and attended the National War College. He was head of the Joint
Studies
Group at Tactical Command Headquarters, Langley AFB, Virginia
and completed
his service in the Air Force as Commander of the 4442nd Tactical
Control
Group and Commandant of the United States Air Force Air Ground
Operations
School, Hurlburt Field, Florida. He retired in March 1990 -
having served
28 years in the Air Force.}
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Papa Jack commented:
John Kerry was a highly successful turncoat following his 4 months
in Viet Nam. He had two meetings with the enemy negotiating teams
in Paris -- and, upon his return to the U.S.from Paris, he acted
as a NVN lobbyist before Congress, pressing for immediate withdrawal
of American troops and acceptance of all NVN demands -- to include
payments for "war damages."
He told lies about the conduct of the American troops, making them
seem like monsters. General Gyp, the NV commander included Kerry
by name as a hero of their "revolution." Today, Kerry's photo is
shown in the Viet Nam "Hero's Museum."
Now, using much the same tactics as he used in the 70s, Kerry tries
to aid and abet our enemies, the world's terrorists, by doing his
best to convince Americans (and others around the world) that the
President is a loose-canon who commits war without valid reasons.
It is a scary thought that this turn coat might actually be elected as
President of this proud nation.
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| Title: Re: George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot |
20 Sep 2004 11:12:10 AM |
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(papa jack) wrote...
John Kerry...
Hey, I thought this was about *George Bush's* daring exploits as a
steely-eyed fighter jock; not about that other guy. I guess there
aren't any "daring exploits" to recount.
Granted, driving an F102 is a little trickier than driving a swift
boat (except perhaps when you actually get shot at...). That's why
the Air Force and the Air National Guard require regular physical
exams. And Bush's last physical was in May 1971. And he was grounded
in September 1972. And there is scant evidence that he did any drills
or equivalent service after May 1972.
Bush shirked his military obligation and lied about it for 30 years.
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| Title: Re: George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot |
23 Sep 2004 03:44:08 PM |
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spartakus@my-deja.com (Spartakus) wrote
in message news:<6ed74dfa.0409200812.7bcbf38d@posting.google.com>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote...
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Papa Jack commented:
John Kerry was a highly successful turncoat following his 4 months
:: in Viet Nam. He had two meetings with the enemy negotiating teams
:: in Paris -- and, upon his return to the U.S.from Paris, he acted
:: as a NVN lobbyist before Congress, pressing for immediate
withdrawal
:: of American troops and acceptance of all NVN demands -- to include
:: payments for "war damages."
:: He told lies about the conduct of the American troops, making them
:: seem like monsters. General Gyp, the NV commander included Kerry
:: by name as a hero of their "revolution." Today, Kerry's photo is
:: shown in the Viet Nam "Hero's Museum."
:: Now, using much the same tactics as he used in the 70s, Kerry tries
:: to aid and abet our enemies, the world's terrorists, by doing his
:: best to convince Americans (and others around the world) that the
:: President is a loose-canon who commits war without valid reasons.
:: It is a scary thought that this turn coat might actually be elected
as
:: President of this proud nation.
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Spartakus wrote:
Hey, I thought this was about *George Bush's* daring exploits as a
steely-eyed fighter jock; not about that other guy. I guess there
aren't any "daring exploits" to recount.
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Papa Jack commented:
Sorry, Spartakus, but I reinserted the parts you deleted
to hide from the readers. I marked the reinsertions by
::'s. That way, our readers can see what you are AFRAID
to answer.
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Spartakus wrote:
Granted, driving an F102 is a little trickier than driving
a swift boat (except perhaps when you actually get shot at...).
That's why the Air Force and the Air National Guard require
regular physical exams. And Bush's last physical was in May
1971. And he was grounded in September 1972. And there is
scant evidence that he did any drills or equivalent service
after May 1972.
Bush shirked his military obligation and lied about it for
30 years.
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Papa Jack laughed:
Gentle Readers, I want to assure you Spartakus can
substantiate what he wrote. If you don't believe
him go to the NY Times comment, in part:
"When CBS's scoop over documents that appeared
to discredit President Bush's National Guard
service collapsed, the error did more than
just damage the credibility of CBS News and
its anchor. It drained away the bravado from
a veteran television anchor who made Texas-
sized gumption and grit his signature.
"Sadly, the words used in CBS's printed state-
ment, 'We were misled,' had a faint ring of
the Nixonian 'mistakes were made.'"
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/21/politics/campaign/21tvwatch.html?ex=1096603200&en=c993c4f1adf0d022&ei=5006&partner=ALTAVISTA1
Bush-haters like Dan Rather and Spartakus will keep on
trying to spread their lies -- even after it becomes
evident to the rest of us they are NOT dealing with the
same reality as the rest of us.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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24 Sep 2004 01:09:27 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote...
spartakus@my-deja.com (Spartakus) wrote...
(papa jack) wrote...
John Kerry ...
Hey, I thought this was about *George Bush's* daring exploits as a
steely-eyed fighter jock; not about that other guy. I guess there
aren't any "daring exploits" to recount.
Sorry, Spartakus, but I reinserted the parts you deleted
to hide from the readers. I marked the reinsertions by
::'s. That way, our readers can see what you are AFRAID
to answer.
Yeah, well I don't appreciate your clumsy attempt at bait-and-switch,
Jackass. Your thread is called "George Bush Was A Fighter Pilot".
Your content is about some other guy.
Granted, driving an F102 is a little trickier than driving
a swift boat (except perhaps when you actually get shot at...).
That's why the Air Force and the Air National Guard require
regular physical exams. And Bush's last physical was in May
1971. And he was grounded in September 1972. And there is
scant evidence that he did any drills or equivalent service
after May 1972.
Bush shirked his military obligation and lied about it for
30 years.
Gentle Readers, I want to assure you Spartakus can
substantiate what he wrote.
Thank you! That means I won't have to post links like:
http://www.awolbush.com
which lays out the whole story of aWol's "career" as a fighter pilot.
Bush shirked his military obligation and lied about it for 30 years.
Not only that, he actively avoided being sent to fight in a war he
said he believed in.
"I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful
and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve
and National Guard units...Of the many tragedies of
Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as
the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are
created equal and owe equal allegiance to their
country." (Colin Powell's autobiography, My American
Journey, p. 148)
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a
shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing
to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning
how to fly airplanes." -- George W. Bush, quoted in the
Dallas Morning News, Feb. 25, 1990
Did you know that Texans for Truth have $50,000 reward for anyone who
comes forward with evidence that aWol fulfilled his Guard obligation
in Alabama?
http://www.texansfortruth.com/
Get crackin', PJ - the offer expires next Thursday!
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| User: "Riddick" |
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24 Sep 2004 10:13:03 PM |
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http://www.texansfortruth.com/
http://www.awolbush.com
Rolling Stone article: http://tinyurl.com/5dtq3
http://www.awolbush.com/images/wherewasbush_50.jpg
http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=George+Bush+AWOL+deserter&btnG=Google+Search
http://tinyurl.com/688g6
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/story/230745p-198181c.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/09/politics/campaign/09records.html
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/09/bush_guard_duty/index.html
http://www.guerrillanews.com/media/doc5192.html
http://www.counterpunch.com/stclair08122004.html
http://www.southerner.net/blog/awolbush.html
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/09/08/bush_fell_short_on_duty_at_guard/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2257-2004Sep7.html
http://www.cheerleadersfortruth.com/
spartakus@my-deja.com (Spartakus) wrote in message news:<6ed74dfa.0409241009.1488e91@posting.google.com>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote...
spartakus@my-deja.com (Spartakus) wrote...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote...
John Kerry ...
Hey, I thought this was about *George Bush's* daring exploits as a
steely-eyed fighter jock; not about that other guy. I guess there
aren't any "daring exploits" to recount.
Sorry, Spartakus, but I reinserted the parts you deleted
to hide from the readers. I marked the reinsertions by
::'s. That way, our readers can see what you are AFRAID
to answer.
Yeah, well I don't appreciate your clumsy attempt at bait-and-switch,
Jackass. Your thread is called "George Bush Was A Fighter Pilot".
Your content is about some other guy.
Granted, driving an F102 is a little trickier than driving
a swift boat (except perhaps when you actually get shot at...).
That's why the Air Force and the Air National Guard require
regular physical exams. And Bush's last physical was in May
1971. And he was grounded in September 1972. And there is
scant evidence that he did any drills or equivalent service
after May 1972.
Bush shirked his military obligation and lied about it for
30 years.
Gentle Readers, I want to assure you Spartakus can
substantiate what he wrote.
Thank you! That means I won't have to post links like:
http://www.awolbush.com
which lays out the whole story of aWol's "career" as a fighter pilot.
Bush shirked his military obligation and lied about it for 30 years.
Not only that, he actively avoided being sent to fight in a war he
said he believed in.
"I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful
and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve
and National Guard units...Of the many tragedies of
Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as
the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are
created equal and owe equal allegiance to their
country." (Colin Powell's autobiography, My American
Journey, p. 148)
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a
shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing
to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning
how to fly airplanes." -- George W. Bush, quoted in the
Dallas Morning News, Feb. 25, 1990
Did you know that Texans for Truth have $50,000 reward for anyone who
comes forward with evidence that aWol fulfilled his Guard obligation
in Alabama?
http://www.texansfortruth.com/
Get crackin', PJ - the offer expires next Thursday!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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23 Sep 2004 09:17:34 PM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Sorry, Spartakus, but I reinserted the parts you deleted
to hide from the readers. I marked the reinsertions by
::'s. That way, our readers can see what you are AFRAID
to answer.
Given the many, many questions Jackass has failed to answer and
the many, many points he has run away from, it would seem that
Jackass is one of the bigger cowards posting here.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Herb Martin" |
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23 Sep 2004 11:38:10 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cj003t$k83$1@bolt.sonic.net...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Sorry, Spartakus, but I reinserted the parts you deleted
to hide from the readers. I marked the reinsertions by
::'s. That way, our readers can see what you are AFRAID
to answer.
Given the many, many questions Jackass has failed to answer and
the many, many points he has run away from, it would seem that
Jackass is one of the bigger cowards posting here.
Papa Jack -- you will find that when RF has nothing to say,
which is his habitual importence to erect an argument or
anything else of value using facts and logic he will just
write juvenile obscenties or alter you name like an 8 year
old instead of his usual 12 year old style.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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24 Sep 2004 12:05:11 AM |
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Herb Martin <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cj003t$k83$1@bolt.sonic.net...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Sorry, Spartakus, but I reinserted the parts you deleted
to hide from the readers. I marked the reinsertions by
::'s. That way, our readers can see what you are AFRAID
to answer.
Given the many, many questions Jackass has failed to answer and
the many, many points he has run away from, it would seem that
Jackass is one of the bigger cowards posting here.
Papa Jack -- you will find that when RF has nothing to say,
which is his habitual importence to erect an argument or
Jackass, as revealed by his own words.
He _claims_ he wants to debate ...
I am always willing to debate,
Papa Jackass in <3380A603.1189@express-news.net>
But whenever challenged he runs away. Maybe he means that only
_other_ people are expected to debate.
Do as I say, not as I do.
Papa Jackass in <31E7BC11.674F@express-news.net>
Jackass is a known liar, but then, he's already pretty much admitted
as much.
When you can't meet someone in honest debate, you run around
spreading total, complete lies about them.
Papa Jackass in <331518B2.3221@express-news.net>
And his typical reaction when he's inevitably revealed to be a liar
and a hypocrite?
K I S S M Y A S S!!!! D I D Y O U U N D E R S T A N D
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W H A T I S A I D? K I S S M Y A S S.
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Papa Jackass in <31FFC35F.4D2A@express-news.net>
The question people ask after reading Jackass's contributions?
But WHY do YOU prefer to attack the person rather than the
argument
Papa Jackass in <3213893E.1DD7@express-news.net>
But he's answered that question too.
You have no interest in abortion issues. You are a little boy
running around agitating both sides.
Papa Jackass in <330A415B.2497@express-news.net>
Of course, he needs to pretend to be interested in the debate so that
people just don't ignore him for the amoral old fool that he is.
And so he'll periodically claim that he's interested in debate.
I prefer to discuss things at the adult level,
Papa Jackass in <3377230D.4EA3@express-news.net>
Alas, such claims are never backed up with actual debate. What we get
instead is ...
Society has no responsibility to make sure you can safely
screw around on your husband, MINXS. If you want to be a *****
and jump from bed to bed, why bother to get married?
Papa Jackass in <3495FB4F.C35ACEDE@express-news.net>
Once again, we see Mark proving that he is the stinkinest
***** on talk.abortion. Ray gives him a close run, but I'm
going to award the AH Award to Mark. He is a totally pathetic
excuse for a human being.
Papa Jackass in <3359AD8D.1EBA@express-news.net>
And then again those sort of insults followed with another pretense of
moral superiority.
Now if you want to play with the big boys and girls, clean up your
language, cut out the shock tactics, treat others religious beliefs
(or lack thereof) with reasonable respect, and try logic versus
bluster and noise.
Papa Jackass in <34F5F0C8.25EA0A32@geocities.com>
Which leads people to wonder which part of ...
Ah, I finally found how to get your attention. Guess I'll
have to call you Fuckface, *****, and limpdick more often,
Papa Jackass in <335483D4.3238@express-news.net>
Constitutes "reasonable respect". Who knows. Ethics and morality
seem to have no relevance to the world of Jackass.
Please note that I deleted a number of words in several of
Ray's statements without showing the editing. This, of
course, changed the meaning of what he said in a dishonest
and false way.
Papa Jackass in <3245F156.1BEF@express-news.net>
Sometimes he''l even demonstrate hypocrisy in a single sentence.
Gosh, Paul, I never pictured you as being into totally illogical and
overripe emotionalism -- or, are you just pandering?
Papa Jackass in <34B8534B.9E3D6A7D@geocities.com>
Sometimes he acts reasonable ...
You must do more than make edicts -- you must persuade with
logic, facts, figures, expert opinion -- you know, evidence
and "stuff" like that.
Papa Jackass in <31FBAD5A.526F@express-news.net>
Only to revert to a more typical behavior.
Second, why should I apologize for calling a ***** what
he really is. You and I both know Mark is one of the most
cold-blooded and vicious human beings on the newsgroups.
Papa Jackass in <336E66C7.7D89@express-news.net>
I am demonstrating for all to read that you are a toothless
*****. I am insulting you several times a day and there's not
a damn thing you can do about it but run around trying to
bluff me.
Papa Jackass in <33935ACD.5C32@express-news.net>
But there _is_ an explanation.
See, you just make up slurs like this out of whole cloth
and sling them around like mud and manure. You have no
basis for what you say, you just figure it will make
the Pro-[Choice] side look bad, so you say it. Can you
spell sleeze? How about crap?
Papa Jackass in <32019770.29AC@express-news.net>
I feel free to say you are STILL SPREADING DISTORTIONS AND
LIES. But what else is new?
Papa Jackass in <32019770.29AC@express-news.net>
Once again [Jackass] demonstrates that words like "integrity," "truth,"
"fairness," and "decency" have no place in his world. He, of course
is a total sleazebag who will say anything to smear his opponents.
Papa Jackass in <3384DECE.31F5@express-news.net>
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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18 Sep 2004 04:12:11 PM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On September 17, 2004, Insight Magazine posted an article by
Col. John H. Wambough, Jr. USAF (Ret.) titled: "Left Wing
Allegations and Fraudulent Documents." Go to:
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/09/13/Commentary/Left-Wing.Allegations.And.
Fraudulent.Documents-722501.shtml
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"Both our flying assignments were inherently dangerous -- Lt.
Bush's because of the high performance nature of the fighter
interceptor aircraft he was flying, the training required to
fly the F-102, and the high risks that come with all weather
(night and day) intercept missions.
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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18 Sep 2004 07:04:54 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On September 17, 2004, Insight Magazine posted an article by
Col. John H. Wambough, Jr. USAF (Ret.) titled: "Left Wing
Allegations and Fraudulent Documents." Go to:
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/09/13/Commentary/Left-Wing.Allegations.And.
Fraudulent.Documents-722501.shtml
___________________________________________________________________________
"Both our flying assignments were inherently dangerous -- Lt.
Bush's because of the high performance nature of the fighter
interceptor aircraft he was flying, the training required to
fly the F-102, and the high risks that come with all weather
(night and day) intercept missions.
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
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18 Sep 2004 11:57:04 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
You, Frank Dwyer, are an idiotic Bush apologist.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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19 Sep 2004 08:27:22 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
You, Frank Dwyer, are an idiotic Bush apologist.
I'm a Bush apologist, even though I didn't vote for him, don't like him,
and don't plan on voting for him? You're dumb, Ray. Just plain dumb.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot Until He Skipped Out |
19 Sep 2004 08:25:47 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
You, Frank Dwyer, are an idiotic Bush apologist.
Nice counterpoint, Einstein. I see you still have nothing but ignorance
and boilerplate replies to offer the group.
Have you considered that the medals are given FOR AN ACT, not for an
individual's disposition? Nah...Of course you haven't, because you're an
idiot.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot Until He Skipped Out |
19 Sep 2004 01:13:32 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
You, Frank Dwyer, are an idiotic Bush apologist.
Nice counterpoint, Einstein.
Medals for bravery are not indications of bravery.
That's your claim. I guess that bright light outdoors is not
indication that the sun's up, either.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot Until He Skipped Out |
20 Sep 2004 09:01:35 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
You, Frank Dwyer, are an idiotic Bush apologist.
Nice counterpoint, Einstein.
Medals for bravery are not indications of bravery.
That's your claim. I guess that bright light outdoors is not
indication that the sun's up, either.
You'll find out in 3rd grade that the sun doesn't actually come "up", Ray.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot Until He Skipped Out |
19 Sep 2004 12:36:11 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
You, Frank Dwyer, are an idiotic Bush apologist.
Nice counterpoint, Einstein.
Medqals for bravery are not indications of bravery.
That's your claim. I guess that bright light outdoors is not
indication that the sun's up, either.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot Until He Skipped Out |
20 Sep 2004 08:58:59 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
You, Frank Dwyer, are an idiotic Bush apologist.
Nice counterpoint, Einstein.
Medqals for bravery are not indications of bravery.
That's your claim.
And the government's claim, and the military's claim, and the soldier's
claim, and the claim of everyone else who knows what they're talking about.
I guess that bright light outdoors is not
indication that the sun's up, either.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot Until He Skipped Out |
20 Sep 2004 10:51:53 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
You, Frank Dwyer, are an idiotic Bush apologist.
Nice counterpoint, Einstein.
Medqals for bravery are not indications of bravery.
That's your claim.
And the government's claim, and the military's claim, and the soldier's
You don't speak for any of them, liar.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: George Bush Was a Fighter Pilot Until He Skipped Out |
21 Sep 2004 09:29:44 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
LOL! Not nearly as dangerous as, say, flying an F4 in Vietnam or
slogging through the jungles getting shot. Yeah, those Purple Hearts
and Silver and Bronze Stars of Bush's show how brave he really was.
Medals, including those for bravery, are not an indication of an
individual's level of bravery.
You, Frank Dwyer, are an idiotic Bush apologist.
Nice counterpoint, Einstein.
Medqals for bravery are not indications of bravery.
That's your claim.
And the government's claim, and the military's claim, and the soldier's
You don't speak for any of them, liar.
Grow up, Ray.
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