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Date: 04 Jan 2008 12:25:57 PM
Object: Global warming a big hoax
Published Friday, January 4, 2008
Global warming a big hoax
John Fogle
In the spirit of being a good neighbor, I've decided to offer a needed
service for all of the believers in human-caused global warming.
That's right, step right up, folks, I'm going to be selling carbon
credits to those who want to assuage their guilt about heating up the
planet with their SUVs.
For those of you not familiar with carbon credits, people who don't
want to cut back on their use of fossil fuels just pay someone else to
cut back, much the same way you might pay someone to eat healthy foods
for you so you can eat anything you want.
My gimmick is that I'm offering $100 carbon credits for only $89 each.
If you buy carbon credits from Al Gore, you'll have to pay the full
retail price. But if you send your money directly to me, you'll
receive an official certificate for $100 in carbon credits for every
$89 you send. But wait, there's more. If you are among the first 500
purchasers, we'll include a fantastic vegetable chopper, a $19.99
value, absolutely free.
And you will be helping to save the planet. I've had my eye on a 12-
foot jon boat with a used 10-horse Evinrude, which will no doubt pump
out oodles of carbon dioxide. But instead, I'm going to use the
proceeds of carbon credit sales to purchase a sailboat -- in other
words, an environmentally friendly boat that uses wind power. The
latest issue of Yachts International includes an ad for a 66-foot Van
De Stadt for a mere $2,295,000. That's a lot of carbon credits, but
I'm sure if all of you dig deep enough, we can pull this off.
When you display your certificates on the wall, not only can you be
smug about protecting our planet, you can also proudly tell your
friends and neighbors that you got them wholesale.
Expanding the same general principle, I'm also pleased to offer
healthy food credits to folks who need to improve their diet. Just
send me $5, and I'll eat a stalk of celery for you. Of course, that's
with a big blob of Cheese Whiz spread all over it. Sorry, if you want
me to eat the thing with no topping; it'll cost you 10 bucks.
(Note to the humor-challenged: the above is satire. Do not send money
to me or to any carnie out there, whether they are selling carbon
credits or tickets to see a two-headed calf.)
I believe it was P.T. Barnum who said that there is a carbon credit
purchaser born every minute. Or, did he say that a carbon credit
purchaser and his money are soon parted? Well, it was something like
that.
It would be easy to write off the global warming alarmists as a bunch
of harmless boobs who will soon be refuted, but we should learn from
history. DDT alarmism was also based on politics instead of science
and has been thoroughly refuted, but at last count, there are still a
million people perishing from malaria each year due to the DDT ban.
While everyone agrees that the earth has warmed between a half degree
and one degree centigrade over the last century, and that humans may
have a small part in it, there is absolutely no "consensus" that
humans are the major cause. Since the planet Mars is also warming, it
is likely that we are experiencing a normal variation in the sun's
output. Furthermore, if the earth continues to warm, there is no
universal agreement that humans can actually do anything about it.
Yes, of course we need to reduce our use of fossil fuels to reduce our
dependence on foreign oil. But, we know that global warming alarmism
is simply a political ploy when alarmists refuse to acknowledge the
real solution -- nuclear power -- which puts nothing other than water
vapor into the atmosphere.
A report released by Sen. Inhofe (R-OK) on Dec. 20 included this
opening statement: "Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two
dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major
aspects of the so-called 'consensus' on man-made global warming. These
scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN
IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the
climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore."
That sums it up nicely, but you can read the entire report at
epw.senate.gov.
John Fogle, a Times-News community columnist, can be contacted at
fogle222@bellsouth.net. His column appears on the first Friday of the
month.
.

User: "V-for-Vendicar"

Title: Re: Global warming a big hoax 06 Feb 2008 12:38:30 AM
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Published Friday, January 4, 2008

Global warming a big hoax

John Fogle

Well if John (nobody) Fogle pronounces it... It must be true.
Ahahahahahahahaahah.............
.

User: "Ouroboros_Rex"

Title: Re: Global warming a big hoax 04 Jan 2008 01:51:31 PM
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http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20080104/NEWS/801040325/1015/OPINION02/NEWS/Global_warming_a_big_hoax

Published Friday, January 4, 2008

Global warming a big hoax

John Fogle

Who? lol


A report released by Sen. Inhofe (R-OK)

(Consistent liar for a major oil state)
on Dec. 20 included this

opening statement: "Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two
dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major
aspects of the so-called 'consensus' on man-made global warming. These
scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN
IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the
climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore."
That sums it up nicely, but you can read the entire report at
epw.senate.gov.

And if you check their positions, some do accept some man-made global
warming. =)
.

User: "z"

Title: Re: Global warming a big hoax 04 Jan 2008 02:28:10 PM
On Jan 4, 1:25=A0pm,
wrote:

A report released by Sen. Inhofe (R-OK) on Dec. 20 included this
opening statement: "Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two
dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major
aspects of the so-called 'consensus' on man-made global warming. These
scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN
IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the
climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore."
That sums it up nicely, but you can read the entire report at
epw.senate.gov.

Oh well, if Inhofe says it, then it's Good Science.
400 "prominent scientists":
1) The usual deniers for hire: Fred Singer, Tim Ball, Christopher
Monckton, PR people who have no credibility on issues scientific who
each have a handsome record of saying things widely and demonstrably
at variance with the truth, and are well paid for it.
2) "Prominent scientists," who are neither prominent, nor climate
scientists:
"Chemist Frank Britton", B.Sc. in chemistry, who wrote a letter to the
editor in the Pasadena Star, which the List of 400 upgrades to an
"article"
Electronics engineer "Dr. John Brignell, UK Emeritus Engineering
Professor of Northampton Engineering College", who has two books to
his credit, both self-published, neither on climate
Retired Air Force atmospheric scientist "Dr. Edward F Blick, Professor
of Meteorology and Engineering at University of Oklahoma", listed
elsewhere as: "Edward F. Blick, Ph.D., Professor of Petroleum and
Geological Engineering, Retired"; whose book "Scientific Analysis of
Genesis" "concludes that scientific evidence supports the Genesis
account of special creation", and whose anti-global warming piece can
be found on the Twin Cities Creation Science website.
3) "Prominent scientists," who are not scientists **at all**:
"Dr. Richard Courtney"; Technical Editor for CoalTrans International
(journal of the international coal trading industry), "Courtney is
often refered to without any academic degree, even if others are, on
the same page, like the ESEF member list of 1998 where he is not
listed as 'Academic Member' but as 'Business Member'. Even in a
recent publication of Richard Courtney (August 2004 ) no degree is
mentioned. There are however a few exceptions on Internet where he is
mentioned as 'Dr. Richard S. Courtney' or 'Richard S. Courtney,
Ph.D.'" http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=3DRichard_S._Courtney
"Stephen McIntyre", "semiretired Toronto minerals consultant" who does
not have an advanced degree but has published two articles in the
journal Energy and Environment (a venue for skeptics not carried in
the ISI listing of peer-reviewed journals)
"Dr. John Mclean," another amateur who apparently has neither a PhD
nor any specific training in climate science
4) A bunch of TV weather forecasters:
Chris Allen, weather director at WBKO, the ABC affiliate for south-
central Kentucky. On his blog, Chris says this about global warming:
"My biggest argument against putting the primary blame on humans for
climate change is that it completely takes God out of the picture. It
must have slipped these people's minds that God created the heavens
and the earth and has control over what's going on. (Dear Lord
Jesus...did I just open a new pandora's box?) Yeah, I said it. Do you
honestly believe God would allow humans to destroy the earth He
created? Of course, if you don't believe in God and creationism then I
can see why you would easily buy into the whole global warming
fanfare. I think in many ways that's what this movement is ultimately
out to do - rid the mere mention of God in any context. What these
environmentalists are actually saying is "we know more than God -
we're bigger than God - God is just a fantasy - science is real...He
isn't...listen to US!" I have a huge problem with that."
5) "Prominent scientists" who are not deniers, but who are quoted out
of context to make them look like deniers:
"Dr. Eigil Friis-Christensen, Director of the Danish National Space
Centre", saying "Any change in the energy from the sun received at the
Earth's surface will therefore affect climate", as though that were
somehow in opposition to anthropogenic climate change theory; when
what he says is: "solar variations still do have direct effect on
important climate parameters. How large this effect may be on the
global temperature is currently being investigated, and is outside the
scope of this comment. But there is no reason to neglect a
contribution from man made greenhouse gases."
"Iowa State Climatologist Dr. Elwynn Taylor, Professor of Meteorology
at Iowa State University", who states in the article quoted as
"climate change denial": "The point that Taylor makes with his ozone
story is ... rather, 'Hey people, human beings have cooperated and
stopped the ozone hole from getting worse, so we just might be able to
stop global warming from getting worse, too.'"
Of course, Inhofe, the towering intellect of our time who generated
this list (or, more accurately, had some random anonymous intern
generate it so he could sign his name on it), has already covered his
***** on this last issue by pre-announcing that he expects several of
his 400 to defect from being characterized as deniers; not because
they aren't, but because they were "bullied" into denying their
denial. Good one! Toss in the folks who believe AGW is no more true
than evolution, and the guy who believes God wouldn't allow humanity
to screw up (apparently never having gotten as far as Noah in Bible
studies), and you got yourself a real convincing motley crew there.
.
User: "Ouroboros_Rex"

Title: Re: Global warming a big hoax 04 Jan 2008 03:22:07 PM
"z" <gzuckier@snail-mail.net> wrote in message
news:4e02dd4b-98e8-4908-a9c3-0b72610dd379@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 1:25 pm,
wrote:

A report released by Sen. Inhofe (R-OK) on Dec. 20 included this
opening statement: "Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two
dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major
aspects of the so-called 'consensus' on man-made global warming. These
scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN
IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the
climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore."
That sums it up nicely, but you can read the entire report at
epw.senate.gov.

Oh well, if Inhofe says it, then it's Good Science.
400 "prominent scientists":
1) The usual deniers for hire: Fred Singer, Tim Ball, Christopher
Monckton, PR people who have no credibility on issues scientific who
each have a handsome record of saying things widely and demonstrably
at variance with the truth, and are well paid for it.
2) "Prominent scientists," who are neither prominent, nor climate
scientists:
"Chemist Frank Britton", B.Sc. in chemistry, who wrote a letter to the
editor in the Pasadena Star, which the List of 400 upgrades to an
"article"
Electronics engineer "Dr. John Brignell, UK Emeritus Engineering
Professor of Northampton Engineering College", who has two books to
his credit, both self-published, neither on climate
Retired Air Force atmospheric scientist "Dr. Edward F Blick, Professor
of Meteorology and Engineering at University of Oklahoma", listed
elsewhere as: "Edward F. Blick, Ph.D., Professor of Petroleum and
Geological Engineering, Retired"; whose book "Scientific Analysis of
Genesis" "concludes that scientific evidence supports the Genesis
account of special creation", and whose anti-global warming piece can
be found on the Twin Cities Creation Science website.
3) "Prominent scientists," who are not scientists **at all**:
"Dr. Richard Courtney"; Technical Editor for CoalTrans International
(journal of the international coal trading industry), "Courtney is
often refered to without any academic degree, even if others are, on
the same page, like the ESEF member list of 1998 where he is not
listed as 'Academic Member' but as 'Business Member'. Even in a
recent publication of Richard Courtney (August 2004 ) no degree is
mentioned. There are however a few exceptions on Internet where he is
mentioned as 'Dr. Richard S. Courtney' or 'Richard S. Courtney,
Ph.D.'" http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_S._Courtney
"Stephen McIntyre", "semiretired Toronto minerals consultant" who does
not have an advanced degree but has published two articles in the
journal Energy and Environment (a venue for skeptics not carried in
the ISI listing of peer-reviewed journals)
"Dr. John Mclean," another amateur who apparently has neither a PhD
nor any specific training in climate science
4) A bunch of TV weather forecasters:
Chris Allen, weather director at WBKO, the ABC affiliate for south-
central Kentucky. On his blog, Chris says this about global warming:
"My biggest argument against putting the primary blame on humans for
climate change is that it completely takes God out of the picture. It
must have slipped these people's minds that God created the heavens
and the earth and has control over what's going on. (Dear Lord
Jesus...did I just open a new pandora's box?) Yeah, I said it. Do you
honestly believe God would allow humans to destroy the earth He
created? Of course, if you don't believe in God and creationism then I
can see why you would easily buy into the whole global warming
fanfare. I think in many ways that's what this movement is ultimately
out to do - rid the mere mention of God in any context. What these
environmentalists are actually saying is "we know more than God -
we're bigger than God - God is just a fantasy - science is real...He
isn't...listen to US!" I have a huge problem with that."
5) "Prominent scientists" who are not deniers, but who are quoted out
of context to make them look like deniers:
"Dr. Eigil Friis-Christensen, Director of the Danish National Space
Centre", saying "Any change in the energy from the sun received at the
Earth's surface will therefore affect climate", as though that were
somehow in opposition to anthropogenic climate change theory; when
what he says is: "solar variations still do have direct effect on
important climate parameters. How large this effect may be on the
global temperature is currently being investigated, and is outside the
scope of this comment. But there is no reason to neglect a
contribution from man made greenhouse gases."
"Iowa State Climatologist Dr. Elwynn Taylor, Professor of Meteorology
at Iowa State University", who states in the article quoted as
"climate change denial": "The point that Taylor makes with his ozone
story is ... rather, 'Hey people, human beings have cooperated and
stopped the ozone hole from getting worse, so we just might be able to
stop global warming from getting worse, too.'"
Of course, Inhofe, the towering intellect of our time who generated
this list (or, more accurately, had some random anonymous intern
generate it so he could sign his name on it), has already covered his
***** on this last issue by pre-announcing that he expects several of
his 400 to defect from being characterized as deniers; not because
they aren't, but because they were "bullied" into denying their
denial. Good one! Toss in the folks who believe AGW is no more true
than evolution, and the guy who believes God wouldn't allow humanity
to screw up (apparently never having gotten as far as Noah in Bible
studies), and you got yourself a real convincing motley crew there.
Excellent catches all. Post saved, and thanks.
.



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