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"Rev. Donald Spitz" |
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GOOD NEWS FROM NEW ORLEANS
Five of the Eight Abortion Clinics in the area were=20
TOTALLY DESTROYED
I wonder how long it will be before God destroys the other three baby =
killing places. It is our understanding that no workers were there, so =
no one was injured. God may come next time during the work day.
One Sister in the Lord said...............
There is an old English hymn that is never sung anymore in the =
Disney-fied churches of America. The words go like this:
God moves in a mysterious way
His wonders to perform,
He plants his footsteps in the sea,
And rides upon the storm.
The city of New Orleans is in ruins. Nearly half a million people are =
without homes or the basic needs of life. Once pristine and gleaming =
office towers and hotels are collapsing ruins, only gaping holes where =
plate glass windows used to be. The bars that just a few days ago had =
drunks staggering and vomiting their way out the doors are closed and =
will have to be torn down. The strip joints that drew men and women of =
the most vile lusts and passions are empty shells. No broken, depraved =
and sin-sick individuals will fulfill their lusts there today. The =
Southern Decadence Days have been canceled. Over 10,000 homosexuals were =
scheduled to descend on the city in a non-stop orgy of perversion and =
sodomy Labor Day weekend. The party's off. A video taken by taxpayers =
at last year's event showed homosexuals engaging in sex openly on the =
streets. The police turned their backs and the city organizers promoted =
this year's event with gusto. Only it isn't going to take place after =
all. The casinos where gamblers from across the state would gather to =
throw their money away in a frenzy of greed are now up to the rafters in =
stinking flood waters. The slot machines are rusting beneath 10 feet of =
water in some cases. The machines won't take anyone's money today. The =
mayor of the Big Easy is calling for prayer.
We are moved, as we should be, with human compassion as we see so many =
people, many of them poverty stricken to begin with, homeless and =
without hope. The loss of life and the innocent people who suffer move =
us to seek to help in any way we can. But in the midst of this tragedy, =
let's not fail to see the bigger lesson. Despite President Bush's =
insistence that we Americans are good people, a closer look says =
otherwise. This nation's soil is reddened with the blood of tens of =
millions of aborted children. The multi-billion dollar pornography =
industry is pumping filth out of the pit of hell into the homes and =
bedrooms of Americans daily. Thousands of militant homosexuals march in =
the streets of American cities each year in Gay Pride parades, demanding =
their rights and breathing out threatening to those politicians who =
stand in their way.
But then God speaks, as he did in Hurricane Katrina. What is He saying? =
By allowing in his sovereign will this disaster, and every disaster =
mankind faces, God is saying, "I, even I, am the Lord and beside me =
there is no Savior." Isaiah 43:11. The Lord reminds us of our =
desperately needy human state. He reminds us that in our arrogance and =
rebellion that He alone gives and He alone takes away. He reminds us =
that none of us exist without his explicit mercy towards us and He calls =
us to repent and seek Him.
Evangelicals cringe now at words like these. "Don't go making God look =
like an angry, vengeful God!" they say. That's because increasingly, =
the God of Evangelicalism only has one quality, love. The many passages =
of Scripture that speak of God's holiness, his righteousness and his =
intolerance for sin are ignored. The passages that speak of God's =
dealing with a rebellious Children of Israel are relegated to quaint =
stories for our children in Sunday School. But the God who judges in =
history, who raises up leaders and who brings them down, a God who will =
not tolerate forever the sins of a nation that sheds innocent blood? =
"No, that's not God," they say. "And don't let a newspaper reporter hear =
you say that, or we're toast!"
Even a cursory reading of Scripture reveals a God who is not only loving =
but is wrathful against all evil, as well. The rebellion of America has =
been a stench in the nostrils of God for a long time. Why God has stayed =
his hand on this land for so long, I do not know. I am grateful for that =
mercy but I tremble for America's future if there is no repentance in =
Christ's church. Why the church? Because Scripture tell us that judgment =
begins in God's house. I have written repeatedly about Evangelicalism =
that in a quest for temporal greatness and influence has perverted the =
Gospel until it is unrecognizable. This, God will judge.
As the howling winds of Katrina destroyed expensive homes and tossed =
costly cars like matchboxes, they pointed us to the words of Jesus =
Christ:=20
"Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I =
will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock. And =
the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat =
upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. " =
Matthew 7:25-26
--=20
SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell =
because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins =
and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and =
take away my sins and give me eternal life. http://www.ArmyofGod.com=20
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<DIV class=3DRTE><FONT size=3D2>Five of the Eight Abortion Clinics in =
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<DIV class=3DRTE><FONT size=3D2>I wonder how long it will be before God =
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<DIV class=3DRTE><I><FONT size=3D2>He plants his footsteps in the=20
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<DIV class=3DRTE><I><FONT size=3D2>And rides upon the =
storm.</FONT></I></DIV>
<DIV class=3DRTE><FONT size=3D2>The city of New Orleans is in ruins. =
Nearly half a=20
million people are without homes or the basic needs of life. Once =
pristine and=20
gleaming office towers and hotels are collapsing ruins, only gaping =
holes where=20
plate glass windows used to be. The bars that just a few days ago had =
drunks=20
staggering and vomiting their way out the doors are closed and will have =
to be=20
torn down. The strip joints that drew men and women of the most vile =
lusts and=20
passions are empty shells. No broken, depraved and sin-sick individuals =
will=20
fulfill their lusts there today. The <I>Southern Decadence Days</I> have =
been=20
canceled. Over 10,000 homosexuals were scheduled to descend on the city =
in a=20
non-stop orgy of perversion and sodomy Labor Day weekend. The party's=20
off.<SPAN> </SPAN>A video taken by taxpayers at last year's event =
showed=20
homosexuals engaging in sex openly on the streets. The police turned =
their backs=20
and the city organizers promoted this year's event with gusto. Only it =
isn't=20
going to take place after all. The casinos where gamblers from across =
the state=20
would gather to throw their money away in a frenzy of greed are now up =
to the=20
rafters in stinking flood waters. The slot machines are rusting beneath =
10 feet=20
of water in some cases. The machines won't take anyone's money today. =
The mayor=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2>We are moved, as we should be, with =
human=20
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begin=20
with, homeless and without hope. The loss of life and the innocent =
people who=20
suffer move us to seek to help in any way we can. But in the midst of =
this=20
tragedy, let's not fail to see the bigger lesson. Despite President =
Bush's=20
insistence that we Americans are good people, a closer look says =
otherwise. This=20
nation's soil is reddened with the blood of tens of millions of aborted=20
children. The multi-billion dollar pornography industry is pumping filth =
out of=20
the pit of hell into the homes and bedrooms of Americans daily. =
Thousands of=20
militant homosexuals march in the streets of American cities each year =
in Gay=20
Pride parades, demanding their rights and breathing out threatening to =
those=20
politicians who stand in their way.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2>But then God speaks, as he did in =
Hurricane=20
Katrina. What is He saying? By allowing in his sovereign will this =
disaster, and=20
every disaster mankind faces, God is saying, =93I, even I, am the Lord =
and beside=20
me there is no Savior.=94 Isaiah 43:11. The Lord reminds us of our =
desperately=20
needy human state. He reminds us that in our arrogance and rebellion =
that He=20
alone gives and He alone takes away. He reminds us that none of us exist =
without=20
his explicit mercy towards us and He calls us to repent and seek =
Him.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2>Evangelicals cringe now at words =
like these.=20
=93Don't go making God look like an angry, vengeful God!=94 they =
say.<SPAN> =20
</SPAN>That's because increasingly, the God of Evangelicalism only has =
one=20
quality, love. The many passages of Scripture that speak of God's =
holiness, his=20
righteousness and his intolerance for sin are ignored. The passages that =
speak=20
of God's dealing with a rebellious Children of Israel are relegated to =
quaint=20
stories for our children in Sunday School. But the God who judges in =
history,=20
who raises up leaders and who brings them down, a God who will not =
tolerate=20
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not God,=94=20
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time.=20
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| User: "• Ninure Saunders" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
12 Sep 2005 10:12:48 AM |
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In article <jSeVe.2612$906.1009@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "Johnny"
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
-"Roy Blankenship" <pointblank@earthlink.net> wrote in message
-news:_29Ve.141$Gy3.15@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
->
-> "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
-> news:5P7Ve.158$lg5.25@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
->>
->> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
->> news:dg30pt$jeq$1@bolt.sonic.net...
->> > Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
->> >>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
->> >>> Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
->> >>>>"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
->> >
->> >>>>> Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
-> disaster
->> >>>>> loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
->> >>>>>
->> >>>>> Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as "Christain"
-> as
->> >>>>> Pontus Pilate.
->> >>>>>
->> >>>>> Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of your
-> own
->> >>>>> filthy guilt and blood!
->> >>>>>
->> >>>>> Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not judge
->> >>>>> others too harshly.
->> >>>>
->> >>>>You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
->> >>>
->> >>> Matt 5:39
->> >>
->> >>I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
->> >
->> > That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a "verbatim"
->> > quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
->> > that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
->>
->> There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them marry.
->> How about this one:
->>
->> "If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to
->> death."
->
-> and that is from....?
->
-> And that sort of thing doesn't turn a light on in your head that the Bible
-> is not what it is cracked up to be?
-
-Nah. It shows me exactly what the laws were after the exodus.
-
-> Just blindly follow along and do all kinds of odd things to your fellow
-> man
-> and tell the judge, "Well, it said so in the Bible...", maybe you will get
-> looney-bin time instead of fucked in prison.
-
-Which is worse? To do the things it says to do in the Bible with merit or to
-allow evildoers to transgress against others while making excuses and
-neglecting proper investigation to sustain evildoers who transgressed
-against their fellow man(men)?
-I wish you wouldn't act as if someone who actually practices all of the law
-is somehow worse than someone who fails to practice it and then seek to
-ascribe dishonor to the one who actually observes the law.
-Maybe if you wouldn't act like some sort of fearmongering evil overlord you
-would get some resepct.
-
-> Read the book of Leviticus, oh holy one, and tell us how much of that we
-> should take literally.
-
-Maybe you should read Leviticus.
-I am sure it would alleviate our nation of a multitude of problems.
Questions on Leviticus
Questions that require answer!
1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They
claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus
21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for
her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period of menstrual cleanliness - Lev.15:19-24. The problem is, how do I
tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and
female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend
of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you
clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2
clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill
him myself?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I
don't agree. Can you settle this?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my
vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by
Lev.19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me
unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different
crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two
different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse
and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble
of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't
we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with
people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
Pax Christi,
• Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
My Yahoo Group
http://Ninure.tk
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.MCCchurch.org
The Bible Site - help provide free scripture
http://www.thebiblesite.org
To send e-mail, remove nohate from address
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Sep 2005 11:41:49 AM |
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". Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote in
message
news:RainbowChristiannohate-1209051030270001@h-68-164-5-141.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net...
In article <jSeVe.2612$906.1009@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "Johnny"
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
-"Roy Blankenship" <pointblank@earthlink.net> wrote in message
-news:_29Ve.141$Gy3.15@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
->
-> "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
-> news:5P7Ve.158$lg5.25@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
->>
->> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
->> news:dg30pt$jeq$1@bolt.sonic.net...
->> > Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
->> >>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
->> >>> Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
->> >>>>"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
->> >
->> >>>>> Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
-> disaster
->> >>>>> loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
->> >>>>>
->> >>>>> Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as
"Christain"
-> as
->> >>>>> Pontus Pilate.
->> >>>>>
->> >>>>> Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of
your
-> own
->> >>>>> filthy guilt and blood!
->> >>>>>
->> >>>>> Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not
judge
->> >>>>> others too harshly.
->> >>>>
->> >>>>You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
->> >>>
->> >>> Matt 5:39
->> >>
->> >>I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
->> >
->> > That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a
"verbatim"
->> > quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
->> > that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
->>
->> There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them
marry.
->> How about this one:
->>
->> "If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to
->> death."
->
-> and that is from....?
->
-> And that sort of thing doesn't turn a light on in your head that the
Bible
-> is not what it is cracked up to be?
-
-Nah. It shows me exactly what the laws were after the exodus.
-
-> Just blindly follow along and do all kinds of odd things to your fellow
-> man
-> and tell the judge, "Well, it said so in the Bible...", maybe you will
get
-> looney-bin time instead of fucked in prison.
-
-Which is worse? To do the things it says to do in the Bible with merit or
to
-allow evildoers to transgress against others while making excuses and
-neglecting proper investigation to sustain evildoers who transgressed
-against their fellow man(men)?
-I wish you wouldn't act as if someone who actually practices all of the
law
-is somehow worse than someone who fails to practice it and then seek to
-ascribe dishonor to the one who actually observes the law.
-Maybe if you wouldn't act like some sort of fearmongering evil overlord
you
-would get some resepct.
-
-> Read the book of Leviticus, oh holy one, and tell us how much of that
we
-> should take literally.
-
-Maybe you should read Leviticus.
-I am sure it would alleviate our nation of a multitude of problems.
Questions on Leviticus
Questions that require answer!
1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They
claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus
21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for
her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period of menstrual cleanliness - Lev.15:19-24. The problem is, how do I
tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and
female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend
of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you
clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2
clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill
him myself?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I
don't agree. Can you settle this?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my
vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by
Lev.19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me
unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different
crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two
different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse
and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble
of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't
we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with
people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
You live in the USA, right?
Read the First Amendment.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
12 Sep 2005 11:44:06 AM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine disaster
loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as "Christain" as
Pontus Pilate.
Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of your own
filthy guilt and blood!
Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not judge
others too harshly.
You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
Matt 5:39
I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a "verbatim"
quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them marry.
How about this one:
"If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to death."
That says nothing about marriage, you stupid *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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15 Sep 2005 11:48:18 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dg4b8l$g0u$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
disaster
loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as "Christain"
as
Pontus Pilate.
Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of your
own
filthy guilt and blood!
Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not judge
others too harshly.
You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
Matt 5:39
I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a "verbatim"
quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them marry.
How about this one:
"If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to death."
That says nothing about marriage, you stupid *****.
You mean the part where it says if they get married kill them both?
Cool. Thanks.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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15 Sep 2005 12:58:55 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
disaster
loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as "Christain"
as
Pontus Pilate.
Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of your
own
filthy guilt and blood!
Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not judge
others too harshly.
You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
Matt 5:39
I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a "verbatim"
quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them marry.
How about this one:
"If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to death."
That says nothing about marriage, you stupid *****.
You mean the part where it says if they get married kill them both?
You're insane. There is no mention of getting married.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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15 Sep 2005 11:53:04 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dg4b8l$g0u$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
disaster
loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as "Christain"
as
Pontus Pilate.
Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of your
own
filthy guilt and blood!
Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not judge
others too harshly.
You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
Matt 5:39
I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a "verbatim"
quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them marry.
How about this one:
"If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to death."
That says nothing about marriage, you stupid *****.
You mean the part where it says if they get married kill them both?
I'm going to apply some Johnny Logic (tm) to this:
Show where it says that VERBATIM.
Cool. Thanks.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Sep 2005 12:13:33 PM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126803184.753968.120350@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dg4b8l$g0u$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
disaster
loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as
"Christain"
as
Pontus Pilate.
Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of
your
own
filthy guilt and blood!
Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not
judge
others too harshly.
You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
Matt 5:39
I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a
"verbatim"
quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them
marry.
How about this one:
"If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to
death."
That says nothing about marriage, you stupid *****.
You mean the part where it says if they get married kill them both?
I'm going to apply some Johnny Logic (tm) to this:
Show where it says that VERBATIM.
You think I came up with it all by myself?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to
death; their blood shall be upon them.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Sep 2005 12:59:29 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126803184.753968.120350@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dg4b8l$g0u$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
disaster
loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as
"Christain"
as
Pontus Pilate.
Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of
your
own
filthy guilt and blood!
Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not
judge
others too harshly.
You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
Matt 5:39
I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a
"verbatim"
quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them
marry.
How about this one:
"If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to
death."
That says nothing about marriage, you stupid *****.
You mean the part where it says if they get married kill them both?
I'm going to apply some Johnny Logic (tm) to this:
Show where it says that VERBATIM.
You think I came up with it all by myself?
Yes.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
No mention of marriage.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "monkeyhawk" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Sep 2005 02:35:59 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote
Then, again, there's the Promise Keepers' favorite verse, that makes it an
abomination for a man to change his daughter's diaper:
Leviticus 20 17And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter,
or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness;
it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their
people: he hath uncovered his sister's nakedness; he shall bear his
iniquity.
Have any left-overs in the fridge? Abomination.
Leviticus 19 6It shall be eaten the same day ye offer it, and on the
morrow: and if ought remain until the third day, it shall be burnt in the
fire.
Like your steak medium-rare? Abomination.
Leviticus 19 26Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood:
Got a tat? Abomination
Leviticus 19 28Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh, nor print
any marks upon you:
Ham sandwich? Abomination.
Shrimp cocktail? Abomination.
And while we're at it, George WMD Bush should take impeachment while he can
get it. Otherwise, we've got to smite him because of Guantanamo.
Leviticus 24 22Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the
stranger, as for one of your own country.
But if you want to own slaves, have at it!
Leviticus 25 44Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt
have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy
bondmen and bondmaids.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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15 Sep 2005 03:19:06 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:35:59 -0700, "monkeyhawk"
<monkeyhawk@cox.net> spake thusly:
I'll give one example of your desperation...
Have any left-overs in the fridge? Abomination.
Leviticus 19 6It shall be eaten the same day ye offer it, and on the
morrow: and if ought remain until the third day, it shall be burnt in the
fire.
The passage is regarding a specific sacrifice,
not "left-overs in the fridge".
--
Pastor Dave
Don't put a question mark where God put a period.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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15 Sep 2005 08:36:18 PM |
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Dave <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
"monkeyhawk"
Have any left-overs in the fridge? Abomination.
Leviticus 19 6It shall be eaten the same day ye offer it, and on the
morrow: and if ought remain until the third day, it shall be burnt in the
fire.
The passage is regarding a specific sacrifice,
not "left-overs in the fridge".
The hypocrite insists that the Bible means whatever he wants it to mean.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "pappu" |
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02 Oct 2005 12:38:58 AM |
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Pastor Dave:
Don't put a "question mark" where God put a "period".
Did someone question the right of a woman with her uterus?
Got put periods on the women folk for a good reason, it looks like.
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| User: "Louise Mallard" |
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02 Oct 2005 04:35:37 AM |
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On 1 Oct 2005 22:38:58 -0700, "pappu" <prakash1966@hotmail.com> wrote:
<clip>
Got put periods on the women folk for a good reason, it looks like.
Not as a curse.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Sep 2005 12:16:17 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126803184.753968.120350@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dg4b8l$g0u$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
disaster
loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as
"Christain"
as
Pontus Pilate.
Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of
your
own
filthy guilt and blood!
Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not
judge
others too harshly.
You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
Matt 5:39
I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a
"verbatim"
quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them
marry.
How about this one:
"If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to
death."
That says nothing about marriage, you stupid *****.
You mean the part where it says if they get married kill them both?
I'm going to apply some Johnny Logic (tm) to this:
Show where it says that VERBATIM.
You think I came up with it all by myself?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to
death; their blood shall be upon them.
That's not a varbatim quota, idiot. Show where it says, "if they get
married kill them both".
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Sep 2005 12:27:56 PM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126804577.835767.250520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126803184.753968.120350@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dg4b8l$g0u$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
disaster
loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as
"Christain"
as
Pontus Pilate.
Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of
your
own
filthy guilt and blood!
Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not
judge
others too harshly.
You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
Matt 5:39
I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a
"verbatim"
quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them
marry.
How about this one:
"If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to
death."
That says nothing about marriage, you stupid *****.
You mean the part where it says if they get married kill them both?
I'm going to apply some Johnny Logic (tm) to this:
Show where it says that VERBATIM.
You think I came up with it all by myself?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to
death; their blood shall be upon them.
That's not a varbatim quota, idiot. Show where it says, "if they get
married kill them both".
Look. If they marry who needs proof?
How far you want to let the charade go without making a set of rules that
everyone can live by without letting other people be harmed by reprobate,
unfair, underqualified losers?
My brother is dead.
I feel no sorrow when I see unjust type people die.
It is easier that way.
BYE, COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are the person lobbying for letting COWARDS run society.
I am against that regressive approach.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Sep 2005 11:11:05 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126804577.835767.250520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126803184.753968.120350@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[...]
I'm going to apply some Johnny Logic (tm) to this:
Show where it says that VERBATIM.
You think I came up with it all by myself?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to
death; their blood shall be upon them.
That's not a varbatim quota, idiot. Show where it says, "if they get
married kill them both".
Look. If they marry who needs proof?
The law, for one instance.
How far you want to let the charade go without making a set of rules that
everyone can live by without letting other people be harmed by reprobate,
unfair, underqualified losers?
My brother is dead.
Indeed...and you're using his death to justify your insanity and your hatred
of a group of people who did nothing to you.
I feel no sorrow when I see unjust type people die. It is easier that way.
BYE, COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure the Anderson County Sheriff is aware of your mental problems.
You are the person lobbying for letting COWARDS run society.
I am against that regressive approach.
You just want to kill homosexuals because you blame all of them for your
brother's death. It would evidently be too inconvenient for you to actually
try to track down the source of the error that led to your brother's death.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Sep 2005 12:37:07 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126804577.835767.250520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126803184.753968.120350@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dg4b8l$g0u$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Jason P" <jaspetr@netscape.net> wrote in message
Are those storm-effected clinics entitled to FEMA hurricaine
disaster
loans and federal clean-up funds? They should be..!
Let me tell you something "Reverend," you are about as
"Christain"
as
Pontus Pilate.
Maybe you should go find a big washbowl to wash your hands of
your
own
filthy guilt and blood!
Jesus told people to go about their own business, and to not
judge
others too harshly.
You got a verbatim quote of that from the Bible?
Matt 5:39
I still do not see the verbatim quote of Jason P's words.
That's because you're a childish nutcase. You don't have a
"verbatim"
quote from the Bible that says that gays should not marry, and yet
that fact doesn't stop you from screeching your hatred.
There is a verbatim quote which is against more than letting them
marry.
How about this one:
"If a man lay with another man as with a woman, he shall be put to
death."
That says nothing about marriage, you stupid *****.
You mean the part where it says if they get married kill them both?
I'm going to apply some Johnny Logic (tm) to this:
Show where it says that VERBATIM.
You think I came up with it all by myself?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to
death; their blood shall be upon them.
That's not a varbatim quota, idiot. Show where it says, "if they get
married kill them both".
Look. If they marry who needs proof?
How far you want to let the charade go without making a set of rules that
everyone can live by without letting other people be harmed by reprobate,
unfair, underqualified losers?
My brother is dead.
I feel no sorrow when I see unjust type people die.
It is easier that way.
BYE, COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are the person lobbying for letting COWARDS run society.
I am against that regressive approach.
If you can't provide a VERBATIM quote of what you claimed, just say so.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
09 Sep 2005 01:18:06 PM |
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Rev. Donald Spitz wrote:
From:wileydrake@hotmail.com
GOOD NEWS FROM NEW ORLEANS
Five of the Eight Abortion Clinics in the area were
TOTALLY DESTROYED
As were several "crisis pregnancy centers" in the greater New Orleans
area, according to LifeNews.com. That God of yours sure has lousy aim.
Maybe he needs glasses?
[--Spitz's gloating over the misfortune of thousands of innocent people
deleted--]
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| User: "Janice M. Voak" |
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10 Sep 2005 08:20:32 AM |
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May I ask one question? Why is everyone placing God as some kind of
monster? God Have pity on your soul. Who are you to question God? He is
now, always has been and always will be, The Alpha, Omega, the beginning and
the end, and He in his infinite wisdom, He knows exactly what He is doing.
I have participated in many discussions, here, but none as blatant and
demeaning as this. What a way to come into or go out of this world. God
help you, as I really feel sympathy for you. Janice.
*Don't tell GOD how big your storm is.
*Tell the storm how big your GOD is!
*Yahoo Messenger: Granvoak
*E-mail me at:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1126289886.444134.110170@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Rev. Donald Spitz wrote:
From:wileydrake@hotmail.com
GOOD NEWS FROM NEW ORLEANS
Five of the Eight Abortion Clinics in the area were
TOTALLY DESTROYED
As were several "crisis pregnancy centers" in the greater New Orleans
area, according to LifeNews.com. That God of yours sure has lousy aim.
Maybe he needs glasses?
[--Spitz's gloating over the misfortune of thousands of innocent people
deleted--]
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| User: "" |
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12 Sep 2005 10:10:27 AM |
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Janice M. Voak wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
Rev. Donald Spitz wrote:
From:wileydrake@hotmail.com
GOOD NEWS FROM NEW ORLEANS
Five of the Eight Abortion Clinics in the area were
TOTALLY DESTROYED
As were several "crisis pregnancy centers" in the greater New Orleans
area, according to LifeNews.com. That God of yours sure has lousy aim.
Maybe he needs glasses?
[--Spitz's gloating over the misfortune of thousands of innocent people
deleted--]
May I ask one question? Why is everyone placing God as some kind of
monster?
That's a fair question. Let me respond with another question - have
you ever noticed that people tend to create God in their own image,
rather than the other way around? Please consider this seriously - I
mean, most Americans think of themselves as loving, compassionate
people, so the God they worship is also loving and compassionate. But
that's not how we've always conceptualized God. He's also been a
Warrior God to the Israelites colonizing the Promised Land, or a
Shepherd God to the Diaspora Jews, longing for Zion. Or a Seat of
Wisdom to the Hellenized (Greek-assimilated) Jews seeking to live a
good life, or a Paschal Lamb to the early Christians. He has been
portrayed as angry, vengeful, nurturing, and/or loving, depending on
the needs of the time.
Spitzie seems to worship a God whose anger is so out of control that he
wipes out whole populations for the sake of rubbing out a few people
whose behavior he doesn't like. Heck, even our own armed forces are
more careful about not harming innocent civilians than this God.
Others, like Fred Phelps and Pat Robertson, seem to worship the same
God, the difference being that Robertson's God thoroughly approves of
accumulating wealth by fair means AND foul.
Such a god is not worthy of worship, imo.
God Have pity on your soul. Who are you to question God?
It's not God I question. It's Spitzie's concept of God.
He is now, always has been and always will be, The Alpha, Omega,
the beginning and the end, and He in his infinite wisdom, He knows
exactly what He is doing.
I have participated in many discussions, here, but none as blatant
and demeaning as this. What a way to come into or go out of this
world. God help you, as I really feel sympathy for you. Janice.
Go back and read Spitzie's original post. He positively *gloats* over
an event that killed poor people by the thousands, including infants in
their parents' arms and elderly and/or disabled people as well. I
don't need or want your sympathy. The poor people of New Orleans need
your *help*.
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14 Sep 2005 12:19:48 AM |
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Hi: Let me just say one thing to you. You are trying to show love and
compassion by telling me that those poor people in N.O. need my help. Well,
they have it and much more. But you too, need help. I was not speaking of
whatever Spitzie or anyone else had to say, but if he was speaking of the
abortion clinics being destroyed and hopefully no one was seriously injured
or killed, but what are they doing to those poor innocent babies that they
are killing. How, in this world could any mother, for any reason, have a
child in her womb destroyed or a child that is being born, coming out of the
birth canal, killed? I am a mother of four children and six grandchildren
and as much as I love them all, I just couldn't imagine anyone being that
cruel. Even animals do better than that. I can't even try to talk about
this thing because it makes my heart so sad and my mother's instinct want to
run and protect those little innocent babies as they are starting into the
world and then they are killed, without ever a chance to live, love or be
someone, anyone to love, or be loved. I have seen and heard of cruelty in
my 62 years, but never imagined that it would come to killing God's precious
little ones, before they could take their first breath. Now thank you for
your comments, but no thank you. Janice
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Janice M. Voak wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
Rev. Donald Spitz wrote:
From:wileydrake@hotmail.com
GOOD NEWS FROM NEW ORLEANS
Five of the Eight Abortion Clinics in the area were
TOTALLY DESTROYED
As were several "crisis pregnancy centers" in the greater New Orleans
area, according to LifeNews.com. That God of yours sure has lousy aim.
Maybe he needs glasses?
[--Spitz's gloating over the misfortune of thousands of innocent people
deleted--]
May I ask one question? Why is everyone placing God as some kind of
monster?
That's a fair question. Let me respond with another question - have
you ever noticed that people tend to create God in their own image,
rather than the other way around? Please consider this seriously - I
mean, most Americans think of themselves as loving, compassionate
people, so the God they worship is also loving and compassionate. But
that's not how we've always conceptualized God. He's also been a
Warrior God to the Israelites colonizing the Promised Land, or a
Shepherd God to the Diaspora Jews, longing for Zion. Or a Seat of
Wisdom to the Hellenized (Greek-assimilated) Jews seeking to live a
good life, or a Paschal Lamb to the early Christians. He has been
portrayed as angry, vengeful, nurturing, and/or loving, depending on
the needs of the time.
Spitzie seems to worship a God whose anger is so out of control that he
wipes out whole populations for the sake of rubbing out a few people
whose behavior he doesn't like. Heck, even our own armed forces are
more careful about not harming innocent civilians than this God.
Others, like Fred Phelps and Pat Robertson, seem to worship the same
God, the difference being that Robertson's God thoroughly approves of
accumulating wealth by fair means AND foul.
Such a god is not worthy of worship, imo.
God Have pity on your soul. Who are you to question God?
It's not God I question. It's Spitzie's concept of God.
He is now, always has been and always will be, The Alpha, Omega,
the beginning and the end, and He in his infinite wisdom, He knows
exactly what He is doing.
I have participated in many discussions, here, but none as blatant
and demeaning as this. What a way to come into or go out of this
world. God help you, as I really feel sympathy for you. Janice.
Go back and read Spitzie's original post. He positively *gloats* over
an event that killed poor people by the thousands, including infants in
their parents' arms and elderly and/or disabled people as well. I
don't need or want your sympathy. The poor people of New Orleans need
your *help*.
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15 Sep 2005 03:41:03 AM |
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Janice M. Voak <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote:
Hi: Let me just say one thing to you. You are trying to show love and
compassion by telling me that those poor people in N.O. need my help. Well,
they have it and much more. But you too, need help. I was not speaking of
whatever Spitzie or anyone else had to say, but if he was speaking of the
abortion clinics being destroyed and hopefully no one was seriously injured
or killed, but what are they doing to those poor innocent babies that they
are killing.
Lying is a sin.
How, in this world could any mother, for any reason, have a
child in her womb destroyed or a child that is being born, coming out of the
birth canal, killed?
How could you pretend to be a loving christian while spewing such
hatred and lies?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Janice M. Voak" |
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15 Sep 2005 08:07:05 AM |
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Hi to all: I have said nothing here, that is not true. All of you
apparently need to study more on abortion and the Bible, look at the
pictures and see if you might have liked those things to have happened to
you, when you were a baby in your mother's womb, or as you were struggling
to be born. I don't think so!!!! I have not given hatred to anyone, just
hatred for the sin that they are committing, of killing babies. You would
have to be walking around with your eyes and ears closed, not to be able to
see this. Apparently, you do not know what partial birth abortion is. It
is a late term abortion where the child is beginning to come out of the
birth canal and is killed before ever drawing a breath. You may tell me
that I am lying all you want too, but you need to study on it and you will
surely see. I was cursed at, with some very foul language, and that is what
I was saying about the bad language, not in the "Good English terms." How
ignorant some people can be. I also, have no need to make any ammends or
apologies for anything that I have said, which is all truth. Why on earth
would I have need to speak my mind and then lie about what I am saying.
Read my statements and tell me that I have said anything in malice. I have
just spoken the truth about abortion, and those who do this terrible thing.
It seems that too many people are afraid to do so, even politicians. I am
not afraid to speak up and stand up for those unborn babies. I do still
have freedom of speech and I will use it to my last breath. When I am
speaking to heathens, I feel that I should talk to them as such.
Jesus Christ was persecuted and turned the other cheek and He said to
us, not only once, but 70 times 7, should we do this. That is a lot of
times. I am a christian, have been since 8 years of age, so you say that
just because I believe a different way than you, that I am not a christian.
You also, have freedom of speech and to your beliefs, so, say what you want,
but I do not an will not believe it.
Even Jesus had a righteous anger when He threw the money changers out
of the temple. I have a righteous anger when I hear about and talk about
killing babies. So, the only thing that I can say to any of you is that I
hope and pray that God will open your eyes to what is going on with
abortions. You have all wrapped my words around to suit yourselves and that
is what people who believe in nothing do, when they do not know what they
are talking about, or do not know God. I pray also, That God will teach you
of LOVE and not the hatred for someone of different opinions than you, that
you have. I also hope and pray, that before it is too late for your souls,
He will save you and make you His own. Now, as I said, all of you can argue
as much as you want amongst yourselves, but I won't be saying or doing any
more of it. I will just sit back and let God handle it, and I assure you
that at some point, He will do just exactly that, in whatever way that He
sees fit. Janice
*Don't tell GOD how big your storm is.
*Tell the storm how big your GOD is!
*Yahoo Messenger: Granvoak
*E-mail me at:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dgbc2u$7jr$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Janice M. Voak < > wrote:
Hi: Let me just say one thing to you. You are trying to show love and
compassion by telling me that those poor people in N.O. need my help.
Well,
they have it and much more. But you too, need help. I was not speaking
of
whatever Spitzie or anyone else had to say, but if he was speaking of the
abortion clinics being destroyed and hopefully no one was seriously
injured
or killed, but what are they doing to those poor innocent babies that they
are killing.
Lying is a sin.
How, in this world could any mother, for any reason, have a
child in her womb destroyed or a child that is being born, coming out of
the
birth canal, killed?
How could you pretend to be a loving christian while spewing such
hatred and lies?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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15 Sep 2005 08:14:05 AM |
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"Janice M. Voak" <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote in
news:2f234$432963df$cf4e7621$20112@BEALENET.COM:
Hi to all: I have said nothing here, that is not true. All of you
apparently need to study more on abortion and the Bible,
of what relevance is the bible?
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15 Sep 2005 01:03:09 PM |
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Janice M. Voak <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote:
Hi to all: I have said nothing here, that is not true.
Yes you have.
All of you
apparently need to study more on abortion and the Bible,
Done that. The Bible says nothing against abortion and Jesus said
quite clearly that it was not your place to be telling pregannt women
what they should be forced to do.
look at the
pictures
Why would I look at faked pictures from anti-abortion terrorists?
I have not given hatred to anyone,
You call people baby killers from love.
You're a liar.
just
hatred for the sin that they are committing, of killing babies.
False witness is a sin the equal of murder. You damn yourself with
such hatred and lies.
You would
have to be walking around with your eyes and ears closed, not to be able to
see this. Apparently, you do not know what partial birth abortion is.
It's a lie.
It
is a late term abortion where the child is beginning to come out of the
birth canal and is killed before ever drawing a breath.
Never happens. It's a lie concocted by anti-abortion terrorists.
You may tell me
that I am lying all you want too, but you need to study on it and you will
surely see.
That's how I know it's a lie.
I was cursed at, with some very foul language, and that is what
I was saying about the bad language, not in the "Good English terms."
You sow what you reap.
How
ignorant some people can be. I also, have no need to make any ammends or
apologies for anything that I have said, which is all truth.
You're corrupted by evil.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Attila" |
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15 Sep 2005 02:48:49 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:07:05 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<2f234$432963df$cf4e7621$20112@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
Hi to all: I have said nothing here, that is not true.
But you can't prove much of it can you?
All of you
apparently need to study more on abortion and the Bible
Prove that source has any validity.
, look at the
pictures and see if you might have liked those things to have happened to
you, when you were a baby in your mother's womb, or as you were struggling
to be born.
Pictures prove nothing.
I don't think so!!!! I have not given hatred to anyone, just
hatred for the sin
Define sin.
that they are committing, of killing babies.
No babies are killed in an abortion.
You would
have to be walking around with your eyes and ears closed, not to be able to
see this. Apparently, you do not know what partial birth abortion is. It
is a late term abortion where the child is beginning to come out of the
birth canal and is killed before ever drawing a breath.
It is a procedure that is medically required in almost every case.
You may tell me
that I am lying all you want too, but you need to study on it and you will
surely see. I was cursed at, with some very foul language, and that is what
I was saying about the bad language, not in the "Good English terms." How
ignorant some people can be. I also, have no need to make any ammends or
apologies for anything that I have said, which is all truth. Why on earth
would I have need to speak my mind and then lie about what I am saying.
Read my statements and tell me that I have said anything in malice.
Malice is not the same as either lying or not proving what you say.
I have
just spoken the truth about abortion, and those who do this terrible thing.
Not everyone considers it terrible.
It seems that too many people are afraid to do so, even politicians. I am
not afraid to speak up and stand up for those unborn babies.
All babies have been born.
I do still
have freedom of speech and I will use it to my last breath. When I am
speaking to heathens, I feel that I should talk to them as such.
Have at it.
Jesus Christ was persecuted and turned the other cheek and He said to
us, not only once, but 70 times 7, should we do this.
Prove any such person ever existed. Then prove what you said is true.
That is a lot of
times. I am a christian, have been since 8 years of age, so you say that
just because I believe a different way than you, that I am not a christian.
Who cares? That is your problem
You also, have freedom of speech and to your beliefs, so, say what you want,
but I do not an will not believe it.
Even Jesus had a righteous anger when He threw the money changers out
of the temple.
Prove such a person ever existed then prove that happened.
I have a righteous anger when I hear about and talk about
killing babies.
No babies are killed in an abortion.
So, the only thing that I can say to any of you is that I
hope and pray that God
Prove any god exists.
will open your eyes to what is going on with
abortions.
Do you really think it a secret, and no one understands?
You have all wrapped my words around to suit yourselves and that
is what people who believe in nothing do, when they do not know what they
are talking about, or do not know God.
Prove any god exists.
I pray also, That God will teach you
of LOVE and not the hatred for someone of different opinions than you, that
you have.
Only when someone insists those opinions are correct yet cannot prove
any part of them.
I also hope and pray, that before it is too late for your souls,
Prove a soul exists.
He will save you and make you His own. Now, as I said, all of you can argue
as much as you want amongst yourselves, but I won't be saying or doing any
more of it.
You have said that before. Why are you still here? You keep saying
you are leaving but like a bad penny you keep turning up.
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