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GOOD NEWS FROM NEW ORLEANS
Five of the Eight Abortion Clinics in the area were=20
TOTALLY DESTROYED
I wonder how long it will be before God destroys the other three baby =
killing places. It is our understanding that no workers were there, so =
no one was injured. God may come next time during the work day.
One Sister in the Lord said...............
There is an old English hymn that is never sung anymore in the =
Disney-fied churches of America. The words go like this:
God moves in a mysterious way
His wonders to perform,
He plants his footsteps in the sea,
And rides upon the storm.
The city of New Orleans is in ruins. Nearly half a million people are =
without homes or the basic needs of life. Once pristine and gleaming =
office towers and hotels are collapsing ruins, only gaping holes where =
plate glass windows used to be. The bars that just a few days ago had =
drunks staggering and vomiting their way out the doors are closed and =
will have to be torn down. The strip joints that drew men and women of =
the most vile lusts and passions are empty shells. No broken, depraved =
and sin-sick individuals will fulfill their lusts there today. The =
Southern Decadence Days have been canceled. Over 10,000 homosexuals were =
scheduled to descend on the city in a non-stop orgy of perversion and =
sodomy Labor Day weekend. The party's off. A video taken by taxpayers =
at last year's event showed homosexuals engaging in sex openly on the =
streets. The police turned their backs and the city organizers promoted =
this year's event with gusto. Only it isn't going to take place after =
all. The casinos where gamblers from across the state would gather to =
throw their money away in a frenzy of greed are now up to the rafters in =
stinking flood waters. The slot machines are rusting beneath 10 feet of =
water in some cases. The machines won't take anyone's money today. The =
mayor of the Big Easy is calling for prayer.
We are moved, as we should be, with human compassion as we see so many =
people, many of them poverty stricken to begin with, homeless and =
without hope. The loss of life and the innocent people who suffer move =
us to seek to help in any way we can. But in the midst of this tragedy, =
let's not fail to see the bigger lesson. Despite President Bush's =
insistence that we Americans are good people, a closer look says =
otherwise. This nation's soil is reddened with the blood of tens of =
millions of aborted children. The multi-billion dollar pornography =
industry is pumping filth out of the pit of hell into the homes and =
bedrooms of Americans daily. Thousands of militant homosexuals march in =
the streets of American cities each year in Gay Pride parades, demanding =
their rights and breathing out threatening to those politicians who =
stand in their way.
But then God speaks, as he did in Hurricane Katrina. What is He saying? =
By allowing in his sovereign will this disaster, and every disaster =
mankind faces, God is saying, "I, even I, am the Lord and beside me =
there is no Savior." Isaiah 43:11. The Lord reminds us of our =
desperately needy human state. He reminds us that in our arrogance and =
rebellion that He alone gives and He alone takes away. He reminds us =
that none of us exist without his explicit mercy towards us and He calls =
us to repent and seek Him.
Evangelicals cringe now at words like these. "Don't go making God look =
like an angry, vengeful God!" they say. That's because increasingly, =
the God of Evangelicalism only has one quality, love. The many passages =
of Scripture that speak of God's holiness, his righteousness and his =
intolerance for sin are ignored. The passages that speak of God's =
dealing with a rebellious Children of Israel are relegated to quaint =
stories for our children in Sunday School. But the God who judges in =
history, who raises up leaders and who brings them down, a God who will =
not tolerate forever the sins of a nation that sheds innocent blood? =
"No, that's not God," they say. "And don't let a newspaper reporter hear =
you say that, or we're toast!"
Even a cursory reading of Scripture reveals a God who is not only loving =
but is wrathful against all evil, as well. The rebellion of America has =
been a stench in the nostrils of God for a long time. Why God has stayed =
his hand on this land for so long, I do not know. I am grateful for that =
mercy but I tremble for America's future if there is no repentance in =
Christ's church. Why the church? Because Scripture tell us that judgment =
begins in God's house. I have written repeatedly about Evangelicalism =
that in a quest for temporal greatness and influence has perverted the =
Gospel until it is unrecognizable. This, God will judge.
As the howling winds of Katrina destroyed expensive homes and tossed =
costly cars like matchboxes, they pointed us to the words of Jesus =
Christ:=20
"Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I =
will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock. And =
the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat =
upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. " =
Matthew 7:25-26
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because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins =
and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and =
take away my sins and give me eternal life. http://www.ArmyofGod.com=20
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holes where=20
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lusts and=20
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the state=20
would gather to throw their money away in a frenzy of greed are now up =
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Him.</FONT></P>
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| User: "Janice M. Voak" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Oct 2005 08:01:11 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:diq1u2$ro9$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Janice M. Voak <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Janice M. Voak <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote:
? You haven't seen "suffer," until you see what happens to a baby
during some abortions,
Don't start with your lies and your hatred. When almost all aboritons
are done there is no awareness in the fetus. No awareness, no
suffering, no feeling, no caring.
and especially during partial birth abortion.
Which is also done before there is any awareness.
This
child is almost fully developed, with feelings of pain and suffering,
just
You damn yourself with such lies and hatred.
I think that I would take another look at who is damning themselves.
You are.
I
certainly am not the one committing the murders.
Lying about other people, false witness, is a sin equal to murder and
it is YOUR sin.
Those who Damn themselves
are those who do these terrible things,
Such as calling innocent people murderers?
without even a thought or any
conscience, as to what they are doing.
You don't care about other people. You just screech your hate.
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you, and hopefully we
will see you finding God and knowing that "He is." As I said before, look
into a mirror and you will see the face of the person who is screeching with
hatred and not caring about people. We are starting to get somewhere, when
you become so angry that you can think of no other words than those of
hatred, and speaking of false witness, when that is all that you have done,
throughout these posts. God bless, Janice
*Don't tell GOD how big your storm is.
*Tell the storm how big your GOD is!
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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15 Oct 2005 12:29:38 PM |
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Janice M. Voak <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Janice M. Voak <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Janice M. Voak <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote:
? You haven't seen "suffer," until you see what happens to a baby
during some abortions,
Don't start with your lies and your hatred. When almost all aboritons
are done there is no awareness in the fetus. No awareness, no
suffering, no feeling, no caring.
and especially during partial birth abortion.
Which is also done before there is any awareness.
This
child is almost fully developed, with feelings of pain and suffering,
just
You damn yourself with such lies and hatred.
I think that I would take another look at who is damning themselves.
You are.
I
certainly am not the one committing the murders.
Lying about other people, false witness, is a sin equal to murder and
it is YOUR sin.
Those who Damn themselves
are those who do these terrible things,
Such as calling innocent people murderers?
without even a thought or any
conscience, as to what they are doing.
You don't care about other people. You just screech your hate.
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you,
You cannot deal in truth and so you make up lies about others in order
to justify your hate.
Reject satan before it's too late.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Oct 2005 07:06:41 AM |
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Janice M. Voak wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:diq1u2$ro9$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Janice M. Voak <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Janice M. Voak <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote:
? You haven't seen "suffer," until you see what happens to a baby
during some abortions,
Don't start with your lies and your hatred. When almost all aboritons
are done there is no awareness in the fetus. No awareness, no
suffering, no feeling, no caring.
and especially during partial birth abortion.
Which is also done before there is any awareness.
This
child is almost fully developed, with feelings of pain and suffering,
just
You damn yourself with such lies and hatred.
I think that I would take another look at who is damning themselves.
You are.
I
certainly am not the one committing the murders.
Lying about other people, false witness, is a sin equal to murder and
it is YOUR sin.
Those who Damn themselves
are those who do these terrible things,
Such as calling innocent people murderers?
without even a thought or any
conscience, as to what they are doing.
You don't care about other people. You just screech your hate.
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you, and hopefully we
will see you finding God and knowing that "He is."
Do you really think you have that capacity? A believer, a true one,
one that is strong, will believe it on their own and will not be
frightened to think that God is some kind of a boogie man because you
believer "He" is some kind of punisher.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Oct 2005 07:57:50 AM |
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On 15 Oct 2005 05:06:41 -0700,
spake thusly:
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you, and hopefully we
will see you finding God and knowing that "He is."
Do you really think you have that capacity? A believer, a true one,
one that is strong, will believe it on their own and will not be
frightened to think that God is some kind of a boogie man because you
believer "He" is some kind of punisher.
Well, He will be to those who reject Him.
However...
Let me tell you a true story. There was a judge, who
was known to hand out the maximum possible sentences
for each offense, regardless of what it was. This was
his reputation.
One day, his son ended up appearing before him, on a
traffic charge. Folks wondered what the judge would
do. Would he be lenient and show favoritism, because
this was his son? They waited to see if this judge
truly had integrity.
When the judge pronounced sentence, he did indeed hand
out the maximum fine for the citation. He then got up,
took off his robe, walked down to the defendant's table
with his checkbook and wrote a check for the full
amount of the fine.
THAT is what God has done for us, because of His love
for us. A perfect God with perfect love, must carry
out justice. Because of His love for us, He paid the
penalty for the crimes, in the form of Jesus.
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"Be strong all people of the land. Do not fear."
"If you will not believe, surely you will not be
established." - Jehovah
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Oct 2005 01:14:35 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:57:50 GMT, Pastor Dave
<1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id <o3v1l15oc3b0c2g3brpdopq82cihoguqu5@4ax.com> wrote:
On 15 Oct 2005 05:06:41 -0700,
spake thusly:
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you, and hopefully we
will see you finding God and knowing that "He is."
Do you really think you have that capacity? A believer, a true one,
one that is strong, will believe it on their own and will not be
frightened to think that God is some kind of a boogie man because you
believer "He" is some kind of punisher.
Well, He will be to those who reject Him.
However...
Let me tell you a true story.
Stand up people. It's going to get deep around here.
There was a judge,
Exact name, place, and date please.
who
was known to hand out the maximum possible sentences
for each offense, regardless of what it was. This was
his reputation.
One day, his son ended up appearing before him, on a
traffic charge. Folks wondered what the judge would
do. Would he be lenient and show favoritism, because
this was his son? They waited to see if this judge
truly had integrity.
When the judge pronounced sentence, he did indeed hand
out the maximum fine for the citation. He then got up,
took off his robe, walked down to the defendant's table
with his checkbook and wrote a check for the full
amount of the fine.
In the middle of court? Unlikely. Was his check no good if he wrote
it with robes on? What court takes checks?
His kid really learned his lesson - if he gets a ticket go to his
father's court and it will be taken care of.
THAT is what God has done for us, because of His love
for us.
Prove any god exists.
A perfect God with perfect love, must carry
out justice.
Prove that.
Because of His love for us, He paid the
penalty for the crimes, in the form of Jesus.
Prove any such person ever existed.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Oct 2005 08:17:20 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Oct 2005 05:06:41 -0700,
spake thusly:
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you, and hopefully we
will see you finding God and knowing that "He is."
Do you really think you have that capacity? A believer, a true one,
one that is strong, will believe it on their own and will not be
frightened to think that God is some kind of a boogie man because you
believer "He" is some kind of punisher.
Well, He will be to those who reject Him.
Whose deity will punish whose children of whom?
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
15 Oct 2005 09:35:09 AM |
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On 15 Oct 2005 06:17:20 -0700,
spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Oct 2005 05:06:41 -0700,
spake thusly:
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you, and hopefully we
will see you finding God and knowing that "He is."
Do you really think you have that capacity? A believer, a true one,
one that is strong, will believe it on their own and will not be
frightened to think that God is some kind of a boogie man because you
believer "He" is some kind of punisher.
Well, He will be to those who reject Him.
Whose deity will punish whose children of whom?
Your snipping and foolish question only shows your
desperate, vile heart and your rejection of the Gospel
brought to you. Thus...
"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your
words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake
off the dust of your feet." - Matthew 10:14
Bye, bye now.
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"Be strong all people of the land. Do not fear."
"If you will not believe, surely you will not be
established." - Jehovah
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
16 Oct 2005 06:24:50 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Oct 2005 06:17:20 -0700,
spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Oct 2005 05:06:41 -0700,
spake thusly:
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you, and hopefully we
will see you finding God and knowing that "He is."
Do you really think you have that capacity? A believer, a true one,
one that is strong, will believe it on their own and will not be
frightened to think that God is some kind of a boogie man because you
believer "He" is some kind of punisher.
Well, He will be to those who reject Him.
Whose deity will punish whose children of whom?
Your snipping and foolish question only shows your
desperate...
Where's your answer, coward?
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| User: "Janice M. Voak" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
16 Oct 2005 08:02:55 AM |
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<> wrote in message
news:1129461890.486489.62150@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Oct 2005 06:17:20 -0700,
spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 15 Oct 2005 05:06:41 -0700,
spake thusly:
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you, and
hopefully we
will see you finding God and knowing that "He is."
Do you really think you have that capacity? A believer, a true one,
one that is strong, will believe it on their own and will not be
frightened to think that God is some kind of a boogie man because you
believer "He" is some kind of punisher.
Well, He will be to those who reject Him.
Whose deity will punish whose children of whom?
Your snipping and foolish question only shows your
desperate...
Where's your answer, coward?
Name calling again? Why don't you come up with something better than such
childish language and behavior. You don't fool me, as it appears that you
are the coward, who is affraid to think for yourself, so you just go on
mimicking those around you. Would you like to see a real coward, then look
into your mirror. God bless, Janice
*Don't tell GOD how big your storm is.
*Tell the storm how big your GOD is!
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 08:01:11 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
You don't care about other people. You just screech your hate.
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you,
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"Be strong all people of the land. Do not fear."
"If you will not believe, surely you will not be
established." - Jehovah
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15 Oct 2005 10:11:40 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 08:01:11 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
You don't care about other people. You just screech your hate.
Thanks again for still more proof that I am getting to you,
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
I am a pro-lifer, but I don't hate women. That would be mighty foolish. "I
am a woman!!!" Most of the babble that they give is just what it sounds
like. Babble. I wonder why they keep coming back with the answers that
they give. It really does appear to me, that no one could actually be that
ignorant of God and His ways, but I think we have found some who are, or
maybe they are truly searching for the right answers. Do you think, Pastor
Dave that this could be possible, or are they really agnostic? Also, I did
appreciate the story that you told about the Judge and His son. I have
coppied it and am going to send it on to my e-mail friends. God bless,
Janice
I asked the Lord to bless you as I prayed for you today.
To guide you and protect you as you go along your way.
His love is always with you, His promises are true,
and when we give Him all our cares you know He'll see us through.
So when the road you're traveling on seems difficult at best.
Just remember I'm here praying and God will do the rest.
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"Be strong all people of the land. Do not fear."
"If you will not believe, surely you will not be
established." - Jehovah
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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15 Oct 2005 09:38:02 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:11:40 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
I am a pro-lifer, but I don't hate women. That would be mighty foolish. "I
am a woman!!!" Most of the babble that they give is just what it sounds
like. Babble. I wonder why they keep coming back with the answers that
they give.
It's all they have and they have no life anyway. :)
It really does appear to me, that no one could actually be that
ignorant of God and His ways, but I think we have found some who are, or
maybe they are truly searching for the right answers. Do you think, Pastor
Dave that this could be possible, or are they really agnostic?
You have to understand that people like Ray have been
here for years. You are new, they are not and they
have been repeating the same things that have been well
refuted. They know that's the case and they just wait
for someone new who doesn't know that, to say them to.
Honesty is not a concern for them. And their biggest
liar, Craig Chilton doesn't even have the guts to even
go that far. He just snips what you say, or changes
your words (actually changing what you typed when he
quotes your words, if he bothers to quote them) when
he responds, while pretending that he doesn't do that
and then throws insults ate you and then lies and
pretends that he is tolerant and fair minded. <chuckle>
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"Be strong all people of the land. Do not fear."
"If you will not believe, surely you will not be
established." - Jehovah
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| User: "Janice M. Voak" |
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16 Oct 2005 07:58:14 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:kue3l19ik20av1ouktjvdebcgnd198qd2a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:11:40 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
I am a pro-lifer, but I don't hate women. That would be mighty foolish.
"I
am a woman!!!" Most of the babble that they give is just what it sounds
like. Babble. I wonder why they keep coming back with the answers that
they give.
It's all they have and they have no life anyway. :)
Yes, this is all new to me, as I am an older lady with a husband who isn't
very well. I have a lot of time to sit and chat on my computer and mostly
to others who do believe in God. My eldest son realized how much I like
computers and that it gives me joy and something to do, other than just
worry about my husband. So, my son bought me a new Dell computer, so that
could help me with what little spare time that I have, which is usually late
at night or early in the mornings.
It really does appear to me, that no one could actually be that
ignorant of God and His ways, but I think we have found some who are, or
maybe they are truly searching for the right answers. Do you think,
Pastor
Dave that this could be possible, or are they really agnostic?
I guess I lived a pretty sheltered life and I really did not realize that
there are actually people who love insulting others and denying that God
exists. That doesn't mean that I feel that we should just discard them and
forget about them, but how do you break through their rough exterior and
God-bashing?
You have to understand that people like Ray have been
here for years. You are new, they are not and they
have been repeating the same things that have been well
refuted. They know that's the case and they just wait
for someone new who doesn't know that, to say them to.
Honesty is not a concern for them. And their biggest
liar, Craig Chilton doesn't even have the guts to even
go that far. He just snips what you say, or changes
your words (actually changing what you typed when he
quotes your words, if he bothers to quote them) when
he responds, while pretending that he doesn't do that
and then throws insults ate you and then lies and
pretends that he is tolerant and fair minded. <chuckle>
That is all well and good, because that really doesn't bother me, if I could
see that I might be making some headway with them. I enjoy giving scripture
and talking about our wonderful, loving God, and getting some attention, on
the Biblical facts, from those who acknowledge God, rather than foul
language and innuendos. I guess this all came from my Dad's teaching, with
such love and kindness, that people wanted to listen to Him and know this
loving God, that He always talked about and showed in His every-day life.
He felt that we should try and lead people to Christ, if we could, without
being overbearing or hitting them over the head with the Bible. "God rest
His soul." There are so many times that I would love to have him around to
talk to me or give me answers in His apparent, infinite wisdom. Pastor
Dave, I do enjoy your writings, and May God continue to bless you. Janice
I asked the Lord to bless you as I prayed for you today.
To guide you and protect you as you go along your way.
His love is always with you, His promises are true,
and when we give Him all our cares you know He'll see us through.
So when the road you're traveling on seems difficult at best.
Just remember I'm here praying and God will do the rest.
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"Be strong all people of the land. Do not fear."
"If you will not believe, surely you will not be
established." - Jehovah
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| User: "BOB" |
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16 Oct 2005 11:37:18 AM |
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"Janice M. Voak" <blondie@bealenet.com> wrote in
news:b2208$43524068$cf4e7638$28145@BEALENET.COM:
"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in
message news:kue3l19ik20av1ouktjvdebcgnd198qd2a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:11:40 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
I am a pro-lifer, but I don't hate women. That would be mighty
foolish. "I
am a woman!!!" Most of the babble that they give is just what it
sounds like. Babble. I wonder why they keep coming back with the
answers that they give.
It's all they have and they have no life anyway. :)
Yes, this is all new to me, as I am an older lady with a husband who
isn't very well. I have a lot of time to sit and chat on my computer
and mostly to others who do believe in God.
Instead of whining and wasting your time posting to the abortion-choice
newsgroups, why don't you pray to your "god" to make your husband well.
(Or perhaps you don't really want that?)
My eldest son realized
how much I like computers and that it gives me joy and something to
do, other than just worry about my husband. So, my son bought me a
new Dell computer, so that could help me with what little spare time
that I have, which is usually late at night or early in the mornings.
Time that should be spent "praying" to your mythical "god".
It really does appear to me, that no one could actually be that
ignorant of God and His ways, but I think we have found some who are,
or maybe they are truly searching for the right answers. Do you
think, Pastor
Dave that this could be possible, or are they really agnostic?
I guess I lived a pretty sheltered life and I really did not realize
that there are actually people who love insulting others and denying
that God exists.
Or, unlike you, facing the truth to be more accurate.
That doesn't mean that I feel that we should just
discard them and forget about them, but how do you break through their
rough exterior and God-bashing?
Try taking your foolish xtian fantasies and buy-bull bs to the religious
newsgroups where they belong.
You have to understand that people like Ray have been
here for years. You are new, they are not and they
have been repeating the same things that have been well
refuted. They know that's the case and they just wait
for someone new who doesn't know that, to say them to.
Honesty is not a concern for them. And their biggest
liar, Craig Chilton doesn't even have the guts to even
go that far. He just snips what you say, or changes
your words (actually changing what you typed when he
quotes your words, if he bothers to quote them) when
he responds, while pretending that he doesn't do that
and then throws insults ate you and then lies and
pretends that he is tolerant and fair minded. <chuckle>
Would your like some more whine with your cheese?
That is all well and good, because that really doesn't bother me, if I
could see that I might be making some headway with them. I enjoy
giving scripture and talking about our wonderful, loving God, and
getting some attention, on the Biblical facts, from those who
acknowledge God, rather than foul language and innuendos. I guess
this all came from my Dad's teaching, with such love and kindness,
that people wanted to listen to Him and know this loving God, that He
always talked about and showed in His every-day life. He felt that we
should try and lead people to Christ, if we could, without being
overbearing or hitting them over the head with the Bible. "God rest
His soul." There are so many times that I would love to have him
around to talk to me or give me answers in His apparent, infinite
wisdom. Pastor Dave, I do enjoy your writings, and May God continue
to bless you. Janice
You really should seek some medical help from your nearest mental health
facility. Asap.
I asked the Lord to bless you as I prayed for you today.
To guide you and protect you as you go along your way.
His love is always with you, His promises are true,
and when we give Him all our cares you know He'll see us through.
So when the road you're traveling on seems difficult at best.
Just remember I'm here praying and God will do the rest.
I'll bet your prayers are really making a difference (not). Why don't you
pray that your sick husband gets better? I think we know why.
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"Be strong all people of the land. Do not fear."
"If you will not believe, surely you will not be
established." - Jehovah
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16 Oct 2005 05:13:26 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:58:14 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<b2208$43524068$cf4e7638$28145@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:kue3l19ik20av1ouktjvdebcgnd198qd2a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:11:40 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
I am a pro-lifer, but I don't hate women. That would be mighty foolish.
"I
am a woman!!!" Most of the babble that they give is just what it sounds
like. Babble. I wonder why they keep coming back with the answers that
they give.
It's all they have and they have no life anyway. :)
Yes, this is all new to me, as I am an older lady with a husband who isn't
very well. I have a lot of time to sit and chat on my computer and mostly
to others who do believe in God. My eldest son realized how much I like
computers and that it gives me joy and something to do, other than just
worry about my husband. So, my son bought me a new Dell computer, so that
could help me with what little spare time that I have, which is usually late
at night or early in the mornings.
Translation - she is an old lady with too much time on her hands. Go
bake a cake.
It really does appear to me, that no one could actually be that
ignorant of God and His ways, but I think we have found some who are, or
maybe they are truly searching for the right answers. Do you think,
Pastor
Dave that this could be possible, or are they really agnostic?
I guess I lived a pretty sheltered life and I really did not realize that
there are actually people who love insulting others and denying that God
exists.
That is actually an either /or comment. One does not automatically
lead to the other.
That doesn't mean that I feel that we should just discard them and
forget about them, but how do you break through their rough exterior and
God-bashing?
I have seen no one bash any god here, but I have seen (and made)
several requests to you to prove and support what you say yet you
constantly ignore these. And continue making such statements. Why
should you be surprised you are treated with the contempt you have so
earned?
You have to understand that people like Ray have been
here for years. You are new, they are not and they
have been repeating the same things that have been well
refuted. They know that's the case and they just wait
for someone new who doesn't know that, to say them to.
Honesty is not a concern for them. And their biggest
liar, Craig Chilton doesn't even have the guts to even
go that far. He just snips what you say, or changes
your words (actually changing what you typed when he
quotes your words, if he bothers to quote them) when
he responds, while pretending that he doesn't do that
and then throws insults ate you and then lies and
pretends that he is tolerant and fair minded. <chuckle>
That is all well and good, because that really doesn't bother me, if I could
see that I might be making some headway with them. I enjoy giving scripture
From a source that has not been verified or proven.
and talking about our wonderful, loving God
That you can't seem to prove exists.
, and getting some attention, on
the Biblical
That is that unverified source again.
facts, from those who acknowledge God,
Which you can't seem to prove even exists.
rather than foul
language and innuendos. I guess this all came from my Dad's teaching, with
such love and kindness, that people wanted to listen to Him and know this
loving God,
Which you can't seem to prove even exists.
that He always talked about and showed in His every-day life.
He felt that we should try and lead people to Christ
Another unproven character.
, if we could, without
being overbearing or hitting them over the head with the Bible.
That unproven source again.
"God
Which one? There seems to be so many.
rest
His soul." There are so many times that I would love to have him around to
talk to me or give me answers in His apparent, infinite wisdom. Pastor
Dave, I do enjoy your writings, and May God
One of these?
Ahura Mazda, Ahriman, Allah, An, Angra Mainyu, Annana, Aphrodite,
Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast,
Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Demeter, Diana,
Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, El, Eleggua, Enki, Enlil, Eshu,
Ereshkigal, Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Hades, Hebe, Hecate, Hera,
Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna,
Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter,
Kali, Ki, Krishna Kronos, Korravai, Loki, Lugh, Manitou, Mars,
Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Moloch, Morrigan, Nahuiquiahuitl,
Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Oshosi, Oshun,
Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, Persephone, Poseidon,
Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Rhea, Satan, Saturn, Set, Selene,
Shango, Shiva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus,and possibly
LintŪ the Laundry God, Rex the Hamster, and Star Goat
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
17 Oct 2005 09:03:03 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:58:14 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<b2208$43524068$cf4e7638$28145@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:kue3l19ik20av1ouktjvdebcgnd198qd2a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:11:40 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
I am a pro-lifer, but I don't hate women. That would be mighty foolish.
"I
am a woman!!!" Most of the babble that they give is just what it sounds
like. Babble. I wonder why they keep coming back with the answers that
they give.
It's all they have and they have no life anyway. :)
Yes, this is all new to me, as I am an older lady with a husband who isn't
very well. I have a lot of time to sit and chat on my computer and mostly
to others who do believe in God. My eldest son realized how much I like
computers and that it gives me joy and something to do, other than just
worry about my husband. So, my son bought me a new Dell computer, so that
could help me with what little spare time that I have, which is usually
late
at night or early in the mornings.
Translation - she is an old lady with too much time on her hands. Go
bake a cake.
It really does appear to me, that no one could actually be that
ignorant of God and His ways, but I think we have found some who are, or
maybe they are truly searching for the right answers. Do you think,
Pastor
Dave that this could be possible, or are they really agnostic?
I guess I lived a pretty sheltered life and I really did not realize that
there are actually people who love insulting others and denying that God
exists.
That is actually an either /or comment. One does not automatically
lead to the other.
That doesn't mean that I feel that we should just discard them and
forget about them, but how do you break through their rough exterior and
God-bashing?
I have seen no one bash any god here, but I have seen (and made)
several requests to you to prove and support what you say yet you
constantly ignore these. And continue making such statements. Why
should you be surprised you are treated with the contempt you have so
earned?
You have to understand that people like Ray have been
here for years. You are new, they are not and they
have been repeating the same things that have been well
refuted. They know that's the case and they just wait
for someone new who doesn't know that, to say them to.
Honesty is not a concern for them. And their biggest
liar, Craig Chilton doesn't even have the guts to even
go that far. He just snips what you say, or changes
your words (actually changing what you typed when he
quotes your words, if he bothers to quote them) when
he responds, while pretending that he doesn't do that
and then throws insults ate you and then lies and
pretends that he is tolerant and fair minded. <chuckle>
That is all well and good, because that really doesn't bother me, if I
could
see that I might be making some headway with them. I enjoy giving
scripture
From a source that has not been verified or proven.
and talking about our wonderful, loving God
That you can't seem to prove exists.
, and getting some attention, on
the Biblical
That is that unverified source again.
facts, from those who acknowledge God,
Which you can't seem to prove even exists.
rather than foul
language and innuendos. I guess this all came from my Dad's teaching,
with
such love and kindness, that people wanted to listen to Him and know this
loving God,
Which you can't seem to prove even exists.
that He always talked about and showed in His every-day life.
He felt that we should try and lead people to Christ
Another unproven character.
, if we could, without
being overbearing or hitting them over the head with the Bible.
That unproven source again.
"God
Which one? There seems to be so many.
rest
His soul." There are so many times that I would love to have him around
to
talk to me or give me answers in His apparent, infinite wisdom.
Attila: It is disgraceful that you would try and take a true, loving
minister, a man of God, who never did anything, in His entire life, to hurt
anyone and you try to degrade such a person, as my father was, just our of
spite and hatred to christians and God. It is just a shame that you did not
grow up, in such a way, with this type of man as your Dad. It is also,
obvious that you had none of this teaching, or if you did, you ignored it,
in you rebellion, and refusal to accept anything pertaining to God's love.
I truly, truly, feel sorry for your cold heart and your unkind spirit. I
don't know how anyone could ever enjoy goodness, love and kindness, with the
hardened heart that you have. God bless, Janice
*Don't tell GOD how big your storm is.
*Tell the storm how big your GOD is!
Pastor
Dave, I do enjoy your writings, and May God
One of these?
Ahura Mazda, Ahriman, Allah, An, Angra Mainyu, Annana, Aphrodite,
Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast,
Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Demeter, Diana,
Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, El, Eleggua, Enki, Enlil, Eshu,
Ereshkigal, Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Hades, Hebe, Hecate, Hera,
Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna,
Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter,
Kali, Ki, Krishna Kronos, Korravai, Loki, Lugh, Manitou, Mars,
Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Moloch, Morrigan, Nahuiquiahuitl,
Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Oshosi, Oshun,
Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, Persephone, Poseidon,
Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Rhea, Satan, Saturn, Set, Selene,
Shango, Shiva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus,and possibly
LintŪ the Laundry God, Rex the Hamster, and Star Goat
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17 Oct 2005 03:51:55 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:03:03 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<20d05$4353a11b$cf4e7638$20695@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:nlj5l1hjlbln44drls5218g17lgvkf2k2s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:58:14 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<b2208$43524068$cf4e7638$28145@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:kue3l19ik20av1ouktjvdebcgnd198qd2a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:11:40 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
I am a pro-lifer, but I don't hate women. That would be mighty foolish.
"I
am a woman!!!" Most of the babble that they give is just what it sounds
like. Babble. I wonder why they keep coming back with the answers that
they give.
It's all they have and they have no life anyway. :)
Yes, this is all new to me, as I am an older lady with a husband who isn't
very well. I have a lot of time to sit and chat on my computer and mostly
to others who do believe in God. My eldest son realized how much I like
computers and that it gives me joy and something to do, other than just
worry about my husband. So, my son bought me a new Dell computer, so that
could help me with what little spare time that I have, which is usually
late
at night or early in the mornings.
Translation - she is an old lady with too much time on her hands. Go
bake a cake.
It really does appear to me, that no one could actually be that
ignorant of God and His ways, but I think we have found some who are, or
maybe they are truly searching for the right answers. Do you think,
Pastor
Dave that this could be possible, or are they really agnostic?
I guess I lived a pretty sheltered life and I really did not realize that
there are actually people who love insulting others and denying that God
exists.
That is actually an either /or comment. One does not automatically
lead to the other.
That doesn't mean that I feel that we should just discard them and
forget about them, but how do you break through their rough exterior and
God-bashing?
I have seen no one bash any god here, but I have seen (and made)
several requests to you to prove and support what you say yet you
constantly ignore these. And continue making such statements. Why
should you be surprised you are treated with the contempt you have so
earned?
You have to understand that people like Ray have been
here for years. You are new, they are not and they
have been repeating the same things that have been well
refuted. They know that's the case and they just wait
for someone new who doesn't know that, to say them to.
Honesty is not a concern for them. And their biggest
liar, Craig Chilton doesn't even have the guts to even
go that far. He just snips what you say, or changes
your words (actually changing what you typed when he
quotes your words, if he bothers to quote them) when
he responds, while pretending that he doesn't do that
and then throws insults ate you and then lies and
pretends that he is tolerant and fair minded. <chuckle>
That is all well and good, because that really doesn't bother me, if I
could
see that I might be making some headway with them. I enjoy giving
scripture
From a source that has not been verified or proven.
and talking about our wonderful, loving God
That you can't seem to prove exists.
, and getting some attention, on
the Biblical
That is that unverified source again.
facts, from those who acknowledge God,
Which you can't seem to prove even exists.
rather than foul
language and innuendos. I guess this all came from my Dad's teaching,
with
such love and kindness, that people wanted to listen to Him and know this
loving God,
Which you can't seem to prove even exists.
that He always talked about and showed in His every-day life.
He felt that we should try and lead people to Christ
Another unproven character.
, if we could, without
being overbearing or hitting them over the head with the Bible.
That unproven source again.
"God
Which one? There seems to be so many.
rest
His soul." There are so many times that I would love to have him around
to
talk to me or give me answers in His apparent, infinite wisdom.
Attila: It is disgraceful
Now you are going to lecture me on my behavior? Exactly what gives
you the right to make such judgments about me?
that you would try and take a true, loving
minister
One of the most detestable occupations that exists
, a man of God,
Prove any god exists.
who never did anything
That would be best, considering his 'profession'
, in His
Capital H? Why is he a 'His" and not a 'his'?
entire life, to hurt
anyone
How do you know that? Have you known him his entire life?
and you try to degrade such a person, as my father was, just our of
spite
Because they are both tempting and easy targets?
and hatred to christians
I don't hate christians. They are amusing when kept harmless, and
make easy targets.
and God.
Which one?
It is just a shame that you did not
grow up, in such a way, with this type of man as your Dad.
It is obvious my life could have been much worse.
It is also,
obvious that you had none of this teaching,
Also known as 'conditioning', and 'brainwashing.
or if you did, you ignored it,
in you rebellion, and refusal to accept anything pertaining to God's love.
Prove any god exists then prove it loves anything.
I truly, truly, feel sorry for your cold heart
Sorry. It still runs at 98.6f like it always did.
and your unkind spirit.
Prove a spirit exists.
I
don't know how anyone could ever enjoy goodness, love and kindness,
I have my share.
with the
hardened heart that you have.
I wasn't hardened to much. When the stints were put in last January
it helped a lot. In fact I recommend a heart attack to everyone. It
makes you feel so much better - more energy and stamina.
God bless,
Meaningless babble.
Pastor
Dave, I do enjoy your writings, and May God
One of these?
Ahura Mazda, Ahriman, Allah, An, Angra Mainyu, Annana, Aphrodite,
Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast,
Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Demeter, Diana,
Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, El, Eleggua, Enki, Enlil, Eshu,
Ereshkigal, Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Hades, Hebe, Hecate, Hera,
Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna,
Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter,
Kali, Ki, Krishna Kronos, Korravai, Loki, Lugh, Manitou, Mars,
Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Moloch, Morrigan, Nahuiquiahuitl,
Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Oshosi, Oshun,
Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, Persephone, Poseidon,
Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Rhea, Satan, Saturn, Set, Selene,
Shango, Shiva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus,and possibly
LintŪ the Laundry God, Rex the Hamster, and Star Goat
.
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| User: "Janice M. Voak" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
18 Oct 2005 09:17:22 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:03:03 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<20d05$4353a11b$cf4e7638$20695@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:58:14 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<b2208$43524068$cf4e7638$28145@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in
message
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:11:40 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
I am a pro-lifer, but I don't hate women. That would be mighty
foolish.
"I
am a woman!!!" Most of the babble that they give is just what it
sounds
like. Babble. I wonder why they keep coming back with the answers
that
they give.
It's all they have and they have no life anyway. :)
Yes, this is all new to me, as I am an older lady with a husband who
isn't
very well. I have a lot of time to sit and chat on my computer and
mostly
to others who do believe in God. My eldest son realized how much I like
computers and that it gives me joy and something to do, other than just
worry about my husband. So, my son bought me a new Dell computer, so
that
could help me with what little spare time that I have, which is usually
late
at night or early in the mornings.
Translation - she is an old lady with too much time on her hands. Go
bake a cake.
Did you notice that I said "what LITTLE spare time that I have." Morning
and Night, sometimes.
It really does appear to me, that no one could actually be that
ignorant of God and His ways, but I think we have found some who are,
or
maybe they are truly searching for the right answers. Do you think,
Pastor
Dave that this could be possible, or are they really agnostic?
I guess I lived a pretty sheltered life and I really did not realize
that
there are actually people who love insulting others and denying that God
exists.
That is actually an either /or comment. One does not automatically
lead to the other.
That doesn't mean that I feel that we should just discard them and
forget about them, but how do you break through their rough exterior and
God-bashing?
I have seen no one bash any god here, but I have seen (and made)
several requests to you to prove and support what you say yet you
constantly ignore these. And continue making such statements. Why
should you be surprised you are treated with the contempt you have so
earned?
You have to understand that people like Ray have been
here for years. You are new, they are not and they
have been repeating the same things that have been well
refuted. They know that's the case and they just wait
for someone new who doesn't know that, to say them to.
Honesty is not a concern for them. And their biggest
liar, Craig Chilton doesn't even have the guts to even
go that far. He just snips what you say, or changes
your words (actually changing what you typed when he
quotes your words, if he bothers to quote them) when
he responds, while pretending that he doesn't do that
and then throws insults ate you and then lies and
pretends that he is tolerant and fair minded. <chuckle>
That is all well and good, because that really doesn't bother me, if I
could
see that I might be making some headway with them. I enjoy giving
scripture
From a source that has not been verified or proven.
and talking about our wonderful, loving God
That you can't seem to prove exists.
, and getting some attention, on
the Biblical
That is that unverified source again.
facts, from those who acknowledge God,
Which you can't seem to prove even exists.
rather than foul
language and innuendos. I guess this all came from my Dad's teaching,
with
such love and kindness, that people wanted to listen to Him and know
this
loving God,
Which you can't seem to prove even exists.
that He always talked about and showed in His every-day life.
He felt that we should try and lead people to Christ
Another unproven character.
, if we could, without
being overbearing or hitting them over the head with the Bible.
That unproven source again.
"God
Which one? There seems to be so many.
rest
His soul." There are so many times that I would love to have him around
to
talk to me or give me answers in His apparent, infinite wisdom.
Attila: It is disgraceful
Now you are going to lecture me on my behavior? Exactly what gives
you the right to make such judgments about me?
that you would try and take a true, loving
minister
One of the most detestable occupations that exists
, a man of God,
Prove any god exists.
who never did anything
That would be best, considering his 'profession'
, in His
Capital H? Why is he a 'His" and not a 'his'?
Again, very unintelligent. A being who is respected and we use a pronoun
about Him or Her, it always begins with a capital letter. You need to go
back and study your English language.
entire life, to hurt
anyone
How do you know that? Have you known him his entire life?
and you try to degrade such a person, as my father was, just our of
spite
You could never begin to know of this love. This man, my Father, was the
kindest, most compassionate man that anyone could ever know. You may be
thinking of "SOME," of the ministers in this time, who are in it for money.
Back in the 40's to the 80's, My Dad, had two business to support our
family, that He worked all week. He never asked for money in any church
that He ever went to. He traveled far and wide to any church that asked Him
to come. He had hardly any money and never asked for any. Once in a great
while, someone might hand Him a dollar or two for the expense of His travel.
One more thing, He had a gas station, back in the 50's. Three men came in
and robbed Him and my Brother, at gun point, making them lie down on the
floor, while they took what they wanted and then left. My Dad called the
police of course, and soon the fellows were arrested. My Dad, being a
minister, could get into the jail to see them, at any time. He went there
to see them and took them many things that they needed, including at that
time, when they weren't proven to be bad for you, cigarettes. Needless to
say, out of His love of God, kindness and love for these men, who had robbed
Him at gun point and such. He prayed for, and with them and led them to the
Lord, because they could all see the love of God in Him. He went to the
hospitals and jails and wherever He thought He could take the love of God.
Once when I was with Him in a man's hospital room, the man said he couldn't
pay his hospital bill, and mind you, we had no money to speak of either, but
my Dad gave this man the last and only money that He had in His pocket, to
help him out a little. I could go on and on with the great things that this
"Man of God," a very great minister, did, but you wouldn't care or even
think about it, because of "your hardened heart." That is the way I grew up
and how else could you share the "love of God," This is where you find God.
So, please do not speak of my Father with unkind words or compare Him to any
of your atheistic comments. You could have been so fortunate as to have had
this man for your father. He and my mother were married for 67 years before
going to be with the Lord. Thank you for not making anymore ungodly
comments about My earthly Father or my Heavenly Father.
Because they are both tempting and easy targets?
and hatred to christians
I don't hate christians. They are amusing when kept harmless, and
make easy targets.
and God.
Which one?
It is just a shame that you did not
grow up, in such a way, with this type of man as your Dad.
It is obvious my life could have been much worse.
It is also,
obvious that you had none of this teaching,
Also known as 'conditioning', and 'brainwashing.
So, you really want to say that the type of Godly things that My Dad and
Mother did, in their lives, were brainwashing? I can only know that the
things that people do and say, like these that I described above, are where
you find God. They didn't have to teach it, because they just, "LIVED IT!"
so that it showed that God lived in their hearts and lives, and that is what
is important to help others find God.
or if you did, you ignored it,
in you rebellion, and refusal to accept anything pertaining to God's love.
Prove any god exists then prove it loves anything.
I truly, truly, feel sorry for your cold heart
Sorry. It still runs at 98.6f like it always did.
There again is your unlearned statements. 98.6 is your body temperature,
not you cold heart.
and your unkind spirit.
Prove a spirit exists.
I
don't know how anyone could ever enjoy goodness, love and kindness,
I have my share.
with the
hardened heart that you have.
I wasn't hardened to much. When the stints were put in last January
it helped a lot. In fact I recommend a heart attack to everyone. It
makes you feel so much better - more energy and stamina.
God bless,
Meaningless babble.
Pastor
Dave, I do enjoy your writings, and May God
One of these?
Ahura Mazda, Ahriman, Allah, An, Angra Mainyu, Annana, Aphrodite,
Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast,
Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Demeter, Diana,
Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, El, Eleggua, Enki, Enlil, Eshu,
Ereshkigal, Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Hades, Hebe, Hecate, Hera,
Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna,
Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter,
Kali, Ki, Krishna Kronos, Korravai, Loki, Lugh, Manitou, Mars,
Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Moloch, Morrigan, Nahuiquiahuitl,
Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Oshosi, Oshun,
Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, Persephone, Poseidon,
Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Rhea, Satan, Saturn, Set, Selene,
Shango, Shiva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus,and possibly
LintŪ the Laundry God, Rex the Hamster, and Star Goat
FUNNY: Are they cartoons characters that you watch or what? They sure
aren't this loving God, that I have been speaking to you about, and the love
an warmth that He places inside of you. May the one and only, true God, of
love, life and blessings, be with you. God Bless, Janice.
When I am feeling down inside, I come to God.
When I am feeling joyful inside, I thank God.
When I feel neglected, I then ask where are you, God?
But He is always here. Always...
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Good News From New Orleans |
18 Oct 2005 10:50:27 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:17:22 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<2bb9$4354f5f9$cf4e763d$4176@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:03:03 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<20d05$4353a11b$cf4e7638$20695@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:58:14 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<b2208$43524068$cf4e7638$28145@BEALENET.COM> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in
message
news:kue3l19ik20av1ouktjvdebcgnd198qd2a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:11:40 -0500, "Janice M. Voak"
<blondie@bealenet.com> spake thusly:
Ray is a fool who answers that way to everyone.
He has no argument. He just keeps making
claims that Pro-Lifers hate women. <chuckle>
I am a pro-lifer, but I don't hate women. That would be mighty
foolish.
"I
am a woman!!!" Most of the babble that they give is just what it
sounds
like. Babble. I wonder why they keep coming back with the answers
that
they give.
It's all they have and they have no life anyway. :)
Yes, this is all new to me, as I am an older lady with a husband who
isn't
very well. I have a lot of time to sit and chat on my computer and
mostly
to others who do believe in God. My eldest son realized how much I like
computers and that it gives me joy and something to do, other than just
worry about my husband. So, my son bought me a new Dell computer, so
that
could help me with what little spare time that I have, which is usually
late
at night or early in the mornings.
Translation - she is an old lady with too much time on her hands. Go
bake a cake.
Did you notice that I said "what LITTLE spare time that I have." Morning
and Night, sometimes.
It really does appear to me, that no one could actually be that
ignorant of God and His ways, but I think we have found some who are,
or
maybe they are truly searching for the right answers. Do you think,
Pastor
Dave that this could be possible, or are they really agnostic?
I guess I lived a pretty sheltered life and I really did not realize
that
there are actually people who love insulting others and denying that God
exists.
That is actually an either /or comment. One does not automatically
lead to the other.
That doesn't mean that I feel that we should just discard them and
forget about them, but how do you break through their rough exterior and
God-bashing?
I have seen no one bash any god here, but I have seen (and made)
several requests to you to prove and support what you say yet you
constantly ignore these. And continue making such statements. Why
should you be surprised you are treated with the contempt you have so
earned?
You have to understand that people like Ray have been
here for years. You are new, they are not and they
have been repeating the same things that have been well
refuted. They know that's the case and they just wait
for someone new who doesn't know that, to say them to.
Honesty is not a concern for them. And their biggest
liar, Craig Chilton doesn't even have the guts to even
go that far. He just snips what you say, or changes
your words (actually changing what you typed when he
quotes your words, if he bothers to quote them) when
he responds, while pretending that he doesn't do that
and then throws insults ate you and then lies and
pretends that he is tolerant and fair minded. <chuckle>
That is all well and good, because that really doesn't bother me, if I
could
see that I might be making some headway with them. I enjoy giving
scripture
From a source that has not been verified or proven.
and talking about our wonderful, loving God
That you can't seem to prove exists.
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