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"Sgt. America" |
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13 Apr 2005 05:35:45 AM |
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Harvard does something right |
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=papers&code=05-P_07
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over concern they
could benefit terrorist Sudan
Precedent setting decision seen as positive step to limit funding of
genocide and terrorism
(Washington, D.C.): The Center for Security Policy welcomes Harvard
University's decision earlier this week to divest an estimated $4.4
million portfolio investment in PetroChina (a subsidiary of state-owned
China National Petroleum Company) for its business activities in Sudan.
The extensive energy operations in Sudan of PetroChina's parent company
make it one of the largest of the Khartoum regime's estimated 93
multinational business partners.
According to Samantha Power, an expert on Sudan at Harvard's Kennedy
School of Government: "This [divestment] sends a very important
political message to the government of China, to the government of Sudan
and to other institutions that are shareholders in Sudan and Sudanese
oil investments."
Sudan has been designated by the U.S. State Department as both a state
sponsor of terror and a sponsor of genocide. According to Harvard's
Corporation Committee on Shareholder Responsibility, the decision to
divest PetroChina "reflects deep concerns about the grievous crisis that
persists in the Darfur region of Sudan."
This decision comes in the wake of the Center for Security Policy's
publication last August of a study entitled the Terrorism Investments of
the 50 States. This report analyzed 87 of the country's most influential
public pension funds and determined that they had virtually all invested
in publicly traded companies active in state-sponsors of terror, notably
including Sudan.
Students at Harvard and on other campuses responded to these findings -
and the ensuing outrage of many American investors that their money
might be used, however unwittingly, to provide life support for and
otherwise to prop up Sudan's regime. These student activists demanded an
end to their universities' endowments being invested in companies
responsible (however indirectly) for fueling the Sudanese genocide with
business operations there.
The Center for Security Policy's DivestTerror.org initiative has been
actively engaged in encouraging greater scrutiny of Harvard's portfolio
investments. Last September, a Center op.ed. article in the Harvard
Crimson made the following stark challenge: "By divesting the stock of
these companies, Harvard would send a clear signal to companies that
provide large-scale revenue flows and advanced technologies, equipment
and expertise to governments that support terrorism: Choose between your
business in countries that threaten American security interests and
attracting our investment in your company."
The Center's President, Frank J. Gaffney, Jr., said today: "PetroChina
has long been enabling activities in Sudan that offend and outrage most
Americans. Harvard University has, by divesting PetroChina's stocks from
portfolio, created a model for every one of the Nation's academic
institutions and for the American people. The time has come for every
shareholder in America to utilize the power of their investments to help
win the War on Terror. An excellent way to start is by doing what
Harvard has just done - identifying and acting against companies like
PetroChina that, with their business activities, tend to underwrite
terrorist-sponsoring regimes including, but not limited to, Islamist
Sudan."
The Center for Security Policy (www.CenterforSecurityPolicy.org),
founded in 1988, is a non-profit, non-partisan organization committed to
the time-tested philosophy of promoting international peace through
American strength. It accomplishes this goal by stimulating and
informing national and international policy debates. The Center
disseminates information, analyses, and policy recommendations via
e-mail, fax and its newly designed Web site, as well as through
published articles and electronic media interviews. Its principal
audiences include: the U.S. and international security policy-making
communities, the news media, the global business and financial sector
and individuals interested in U.S. security policy. Additional
information about the Divest Terror and Divest Sudan campaigns is also
available at www.DivestTerror.org.
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| User: "Attila" |
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13 Apr 2005 04:17:26 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:35:45 +1200, "Sgt. America" <213@123.123> in
alt.abortion with message-id <425CF601.52CE11F5@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over concern they
could benefit terrorist Sudan
Off topic.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Harvard does something right |
13 Apr 2005 04:35:53 PM |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:h23r51djk92njqo77qq81e28uqbf1hcbe0@4ax.com:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:35:45 +1200, "Sgt. America" <213@123.123> in
alt.abortion with message-id <425CF601.52CE11F5@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over concern they
could benefit terrorist Sudan
Off topic.
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
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| User: "Sgt. America" |
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| Title: Re: Harvard does something right |
13 Apr 2005 08:14:03 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." wrote:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:h23r51djk92njqo77qq81e28uqbf1hcbe0@4ax.com:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:35:45 +1200, "Sgt. America" <213@123.123> in
alt.abortion with message-id <425CF601.52CE11F5@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over concern they
could benefit terrorist Sudan
Off topic.
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Cut it out, hypocrite.
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- On 1/20/09, itll be BYE-BYE Bushie! Then, GOOD RIDDANCE!" |
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13 Apr 2005 05:23:11 PM |
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On 13 Apr 2005 21:35:53 GMT,
James G. Keegan, Jr. <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote
"Sgt. America" <213@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over
concern they could benefit terrorist Sudan...
Off topic.
You continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Am I missing something here? I though you both were egalitarian
*allies*!
But in any case, the original (comic-book-alias-and-generally-
clueless) poster, "Sgt. America," was off-topic in TWO of these
groups, to which he crossposted. His topic IS potentially relevant to
talk.politics.misc. But it has ZIP relevance to the abortion groups.
In THOSE, he simply made an ***** of himself. (Which for him, is
situation normal.)
There's nothing wrong with crossposting when there's a common
thread for the crossposted groups. But Attila was batting .667 when
he spotlighted the irrelevance of the topic to 2 of the 3 groups.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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13 Apr 2005 05:35:32 PM |
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"Craig Chilton -- On 1/20/09, it'll be BYE-BYE Bushie! Then, GOOD
RIDDANCE!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
news:mc6r51tbasmhfd23ljktfqsj318597onnd@4ax.com:
On 13 Apr 2005 21:35:53 GMT,
James G. Keegan, Jr. <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote
"Sgt. America" <213@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over
concern they could benefit terrorist Sudan...
Off topic.
You continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Am I missing something here? I though you both were egalitarian
*allies*!
be serious. attila calls himself pro-choice while concurrently trying to
dictate what is and is not appropriate for an unmoderated newsgroup. he
regularly argues against readers' right to decide for themselves what is
and is not relevant.
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| User: "Sgt. America" |
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16 Apr 2005 08:12:31 AM |
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"james g. keegan jr." wrote:
LOONY TUNE "Craig Chilton -- On 1/20/09, it'll be BYE-BYE Bushie! Then, GOOD
RIDDANCE!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
news:mc6r51tbasmhfd23ljktfqsj318597onnd@4ax.com:
On 13 Apr 2005 21:35:53 GMT,
James G. Keegan, Jr. <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote
"Sgt. America" <213@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over
concern they could benefit terrorist Sudan...
Off topic.
You continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Am I missing something here? I though you both were egalitarian
*allies*!
be serious. attila calls himself pro-choice while concurrently trying to
dictate what is and is not appropriate for an unmoderated newsgroup. he
regularly argues against readers' right to decide for themselves what is
and is not relevant.
And I thought that comment to Attila was directed at me! Apologies for
calling you a hypocrite!
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| User: "Attila" |
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16 Apr 2005 02:55:13 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 01:12:31 +1200, "Sgt. America" <123@123.123> in
alt.abortion with message-id <42610F3F.7D955B74@123.123> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." wrote:
LOONY TUNE "Craig Chilton -- On 1/20/09, it'll be BYE-BYE Bushie! Then, GOOD
RIDDANCE!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
news:mc6r51tbasmhfd23ljktfqsj318597onnd@4ax.com:
On 13 Apr 2005 21:35:53 GMT,
James G. Keegan, Jr. <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote
"Sgt. America" <213@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over
concern they could benefit terrorist Sudan...
Off topic.
You continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Am I missing something here? I though you both were egalitarian
*allies*!
be serious. attila calls himself pro-choice while concurrently trying to
dictate what is and is not appropriate for an unmoderated newsgroup. he
regularly argues against readers' right to decide for themselves what is
and is not relevant.
And I thought that comment to Attila was directed at me! Apologies for
calling you a hypocrite!
I am simply pointing out that newsgroups have subjects, and it
expected that a post to a given group would directly involve the
subject of that group. I said nothing about moderated or unmoderated.
I don't think everyone wants just one group where all posts are made,
and each reader decides for himself which one he wants to read. If he
can find it.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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16 Apr 2005 03:00:38 PM |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:euq26117jbcu8qjb0r719e35pk5cn6ria5@4ax.com:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 01:12:31 +1200, "Sgt. America" <123@123.123> in
alt.abortion with message-id <42610F3F.7D955B74@123.123> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." wrote:
LOONY TUNE "Craig Chilton -- On 1/20/09, it'll be BYE-BYE Bushie!
Then, GOOD RIDDANCE!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
news:mc6r51tbasmhfd23ljktfqsj318597onnd@4ax.com:
On 13 Apr 2005 21:35:53 GMT,
James G. Keegan, Jr. <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote
"Sgt. America" <213@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over
concern they could benefit terrorist Sudan...
Off topic.
You continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet
newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Am I missing something here? I though you both were
egalitarian
*allies*!
be serious. attila calls himself pro-choice while concurrently
trying to dictate what is and is not appropriate for an unmoderated
newsgroup. he regularly argues against readers' right to decide for
themselves what is and is not relevant.
And I thought that comment to Attila was directed at me! Apologies for
calling you a hypocrite!
I am simply pointing out that newsgroups have subjects, and it
expected that a post to a given group would directly involve the
subject of that group. I said nothing about moderated or unmoderated.
that's true, you did demonstrate complete ignorance of how newsgroups
work
worse yet, you tried to net.cop subjects that were topical. that stinks
of censorship, scumball.
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| User: "Attila" |
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14 Apr 2005 06:36:13 AM |
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On 13 Apr 2005 22:35:32 GMT, "james g. keegan jr."
<keegan@nycap.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<Xns9637BD236BB51keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- On 1/20/09, it'll be BYE-BYE Bushie! Then, GOOD
RIDDANCE!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
news:mc6r51tbasmhfd23ljktfqsj318597onnd@4ax.com:
On 13 Apr 2005 21:35:53 GMT,
James G. Keegan, Jr. <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote
"Sgt. America" <213@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over
concern they could benefit terrorist Sudan...
Off topic.
You continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Am I missing something here? I though you both were egalitarian
*allies*!
be serious. attila calls himself pro-choice while concurrently trying to
dictate what is and is not appropriate for an unmoderated newsgroup. he
regularly argues against readers' right to decide for themselves what is
and is not relevant.
So as far as you are concerned you can post whatever you like on any
subject and let each reader decide if it is off topic and should be
here.
Amusing.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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14 Apr 2005 06:58:37 AM |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:vcls51prj7iihf9tpt8ebljt9qm685cp2l@4ax.com:
On 13 Apr 2005 22:35:32 GMT, "james g. keegan jr."
<keegan@nycap.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<Xns9637BD236BB51keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4> wrote:
be serious. attila calls himself pro-choice while concurrently trying to
dictate what is and is not appropriate for an unmoderated newsgroup. he
regularly argues against readers' right to decide for themselves what is
and is not relevant.
So as far as you are concerned you can post whatever you like on any
subject and let each reader decide if it is off topic and should be
here.
that's how unmoderated newsgroups work, scumball.
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| User: "Attila" |
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14 Apr 2005 06:40:36 AM |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:23:11 GMT, "Craig Chilton -- On 1/20/09, it'll
be BYE-BYE Bushie! Then, GOOD RIDDANCE!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<mc6r51tbasmhfd23ljktfqsj318597onnd@4ax.com> wrote:
On 13 Apr 2005 21:35:53 GMT,
James G. Keegan, Jr. <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote
"Sgt. America" <213@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over
concern they could benefit terrorist Sudan...
Off topic.
You continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
Am I missing something here? I though you both were egalitarian
*allies*!
But in any case, the original (comic-book-alias-and-generally-
clueless) poster, "Sgt. America," was off-topic in TWO of these
groups, to which he crossposted. His topic IS potentially relevant to
talk.politics.misc. But it has ZIP relevance to the abortion groups.
In THOSE, he simply made an ***** of himself. (Which for him, is
situation normal.)
There's nothing wrong with crossposting when there's a common
thread for the crossposted groups. But Attila was batting .667 when
he spotlighted the irrelevance of the topic to 2 of the 3 groups.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I am in alt.abortion and am addressing subjects strictly from the
viewpoint of alt.abortion. In fact, my replies all say I am in
alt.abortion.
I do not even look to see what other groups may be involved because I
have no idea where the poster I am responding to is located.
A post may go to 10 groups and be on topic in nine of them but if it
is off topic in alt.abortion I will call it as off topic.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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14 Apr 2005 07:21:15 AM |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:4els519di4msoiqleg0pfhd2lsn17g27si@4ax.com:
<mc6r51tbasmhfd23ljktfqsj318597onnd@4ax.com> wrote:
I am in alt.abortion and am addressing subjects strictly from the
viewpoint of alt.abortion. In fact, my replies all say I am in
alt.abortion.
I do not even look to see what other groups may be involved because I
have no idea where the poster I am responding to is located.
A post may go to 10 groups and be on topic in nine of them but if it
is off topic in alt.abortion I will call it as off topic.
you poor fool: you never bothered to look into the history of your own
newsgroup which was created because a few control freaks wanted a moderated
talk.abortion. when they failed at creating that moderated group, then went
ahead and created alt.abortion as an unmoderated talk.abortion, essentially
just another, smaller, less widely distributed version of talk.abortion.
in the future, do your homework.
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| User: "Attila" |
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14 Apr 2005 03:43:49 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:21:15 GMT, "james g. keegan jr."
<keegan@nycap.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<Xns963854FBD3B49keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.166> wrote:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:4els519di4msoiqleg0pfhd2lsn17g27si@4ax.com:
<mc6r51tbasmhfd23ljktfqsj318597onnd@4ax.com> wrote:
I am in alt.abortion and am addressing subjects strictly from the
viewpoint of alt.abortion. In fact, my replies all say I am in
alt.abortion.
I do not even look to see what other groups may be involved because I
have no idea where the poster I am responding to is located.
A post may go to 10 groups and be on topic in nine of them but if it
is off topic in alt.abortion I will call it as off topic.
you poor fool: you never bothered to look into the history of your own
newsgroup which was created because a few control freaks wanted a moderated
talk.abortion. when they failed at creating that moderated group, then went
ahead and created alt.abortion as an unmoderated talk.abortion, essentially
just another, smaller, less widely distributed version of talk.abortion.
The topic is still abortion.
in the future, do your homework.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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14 Apr 2005 03:51:02 PM |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:velt51lgkgvh5b7121fqrqkbrf6qeh6nv7@4ax.com:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:21:15 GMT, "james g. keegan jr."
<keegan@nycap.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<Xns963854FBD3B49keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.166> wrote:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:4els519di4msoiqleg0pfhd2lsn17g27si@4ax.com:
<mc6r51tbasmhfd23ljktfqsj318597onnd@4ax.com> wrote:
I am in alt.abortion and am addressing subjects strictly from the
viewpoint of alt.abortion. In fact, my replies all say I am in
alt.abortion.
I do not even look to see what other groups may be involved because
I have no idea where the poster I am responding to is located.
A post may go to 10 groups and be on topic in nine of them but if it
is off topic in alt.abortion I will call it as off topic.
you poor fool: you never bothered to look into the history of your own
newsgroup which was created because a few control freaks wanted a
moderated talk.abortion. when they failed at creating that moderated
group, then went ahead and created alt.abortion as an unmoderated
talk.abortion, essentially just another, smaller, less widely
distributed version of talk.abortion.
The topic is still abortion.
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
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14 Apr 2005 06:40:55 AM |
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On 13 Apr 2005 21:35:53 GMT, "james g. keegan jr."
<keegan@nycap.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<Xns9637B30698243keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4> wrote:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:h23r51djk92njqo77qq81e28uqbf1hcbe0@4ax.com:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:35:45 +1200, "Sgt. America" <213@123.123> in
alt.abortion with message-id <425CF601.52CE11F5@123.123> wrote:
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over concern they
could benefit terrorist Sudan
Off topic.
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
So as far as you are concerned you can post whatever you like on any
subject and let each reader decide if it is off topic and should be
here.
Amusing.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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14 Apr 2005 06:59:09 AM |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:ulls515kj7npls36qqq0i6aevsg717stkh@4ax.com:
On 13 Apr 2005 21:35:53 GMT, "james g. keegan jr."
<keegan@nycap.rr.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<Xns9637B30698243keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4> wrote:
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
So as far as you are concerned you can post whatever you like on any
subject and let each reader decide if it is off topic and should be
here.
that's how unmoderated newsgroups work, scumball.
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13 Apr 2005 04:56:08 PM |
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Sgt. America wrote:
The Center's President, Frank J. Gaffney, Jr., said today:
"PetroChina
has long been enabling activities in Sudan that offend and outrage
most
Americans. Harvard University has, by divesting PetroChina's stocks
from
portfolio, created a model for every one of the Nation's academic
institutions and for the American people.
Good for Harvard University. However, China's support for terrorism
goes much higher than this. Please read the following articles from a
couple of years ago:-
http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/military_aggression.htm#trailofterror
http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/military_aggression.htm#ussanctions
In general, if you feel, as I do, that China is the biggest threat to
world peace, please visit the China Boycott Union at
http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk, where you can sign our Pledgebook and
Action Form.
(Incidentally, if you are concerned that this post seems irrelevant to
the issue of abortion, please visit our page on forced abortion in
China. Even those who support a woman's right to choose will find the
evidence of China's approach abhorrent -
http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/forcedabortions.htm)
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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13 Apr 2005 05:55:55 AM |
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Sgt. America wrote:
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=papers&code=05-P_07
Harvard University divests holdings of Chinese firm over concern they
could benefit terrorist Sudan
Precedent setting decision seen as positive step to limit funding of
genocide and terrorism
If the people of the Sudan were white, Harvard would have done nothing.
Bob Kolker
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