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25 Nov 2004 07:03:34 PM |
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Hiding Breast Bombs |
November 25, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Hiding Breast Bombs
By MAUREEN DOWD
WASHINGTON
It always makes me feel slimy and humiliated, as though I'm in one of those
cheesy women-in-prison movies, with titles like "Caged," "Slammer Girls" or
"Reform School Girls."
First you have to strip, unzipping your boots, unbuckling your belt and
unbuttoning your suit jacket while any guys standing around watch. Then you
have to walk around in some flimsy top and stocking or bare feet. Then you
have to assume the spread-eagled position. Then a beefy female security
agent runs her hands all the way around your breasts, in between,
underneath - again with guys standing around staring.
Flying on business, I've gone through this embarrassing tableau two dozen
times in airports all over the country in the last couple of months. I've
been searched more than Martha Stewart. I watched a Transportation Security
Administration screener brusquely insist that my friend take off her blazer
even though she had on only lingerie underneath - a see-through camisole -
and the man behind her was leering.
Airport screening procedures are more reactive than imaginative. There's an
attempted shoe bombing, so all passengers must shed their shoes. Two female
Chechens may or may not have sneaked explosives onto Russian planes, so now
some T.S.A. genius decides all women are subject to strips and body
searches.
I get flagged for extra security every time I buy a one-way ticket, which
seems particularly lame. Doesn't the T.S.A. realize that a careful
terrorist plotter like Mohammed Atta could figure this out and use his
Saudi charity money to pop for round trips even if the return portion gets
wasted?
In two articles in The Times, Joe Sharkey has chronicled the plaints of
women angry about new procedures in airport security that have increased
both the number and intensity of the airport pat-down, or "breast exam," as
one woman put it.
He described the experience of Patti LuPone, the singer and actress, at the
Fort Lauderdale airport, who resisted taking off her shirt and got barred
from her flight, and of 71-year-old Jenepher Field, who walks with the aid
of a cane, being subjected to a breast pat-down at the airport outside
Kansas City, Mo. (Do we have intelligence telling us that grandmothers are
part of Al Qaeda now?)
Even a stripper complained in an e-mail message to Mr. Sharkey that she
found her experiences degrading: "On one occasion a screener flat out asked
if they were fake."
Somebody tell me what quantity of explosive material they have found
through these strip searches, because I've got a hunch it's zero. How many
billions are they wasting on this?
Maybe we're not at the Philip K. ***** level of technology yet. But how
about some positive profiling? If airport security can have a watch list
for the bad guys, why can't it develop a watch list for the good guys?
Can't there be a database of trustworthy American frequent travelers who
are not going to secrete things in their bras? After all, no one is going
to sneak anything in there without our knowledge. Can they at least get a
screen?
I know it's not just women who are uncomfortable; a guy I know said a male
screener at the Miami airport recently stuck a hand down the front of his
pants, making him feel "totally manhandled." And I heard the sad tale of a
red-faced Washington businessman who took off his shoes, only to show the
room the red painted toenails he had forgotten to wipe off.
Barry Steinhardt of the A.C.L.U. told Court TV that the new procedures are
not only "an open invitation for harassment" - there are not enough female
screeners, so sometimes men are doing the pat-downs of women - but they're
also "not particularly effective."
I've never wanted to complain because I assume there are inconveniences
that go along with greater security. But I would feel less creepy if I
thought this were part of an effective overall strategy of protecting the
country. I don't.
Iraq is draining money we should be spending protecting ourselves. Only 3
to 5 percent of containers coming into ports are checked, and only a tiny
percentage of air, rail and truck cargo is inspected. Congress is turning
homeland security money into another avenue of pork. Tom Ridge is still
making fuzzy ads telling people to have a plan of action and referring them
to his Web site, which hasn't gotten much beyond duct tape.
If we were buttoning up the borders and making the airlines safer,
unbuttoning in public would be more bearable.
E-mail:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/25/opinion/25dowd.html?
oref=login&oref=login&hp=&oref=login&pagewanted=print&position
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25 Nov 2004 07:52:00 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
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| User: "Richard Hutnik" |
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26 Nov 2004 02:42:28 PM |
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"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in message news:<AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-oQ@intertex.net>...
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
If you don't like it, bury your head in the sand somewhere, stop
reading usenet, and leave FoxNews on. Wait, FoxNews is a leading
spreader of disaster news.
- Richard Hutnik
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| User: "EggNog" |
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26 Nov 2004 10:52:18 PM |
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"Richard Hutnik" <richardhutnik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in message
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
If you don't like it, bury your head in the sand somewhere, stop
reading usenet, and leave FoxNews on. Wait, FoxNews is a leading
spreader of disaster news.
- Richard Hutnik
Yes, the DNC was a disaster this year and FoxNews was spreading it around.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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27 Nov 2004 01:47:56 AM |
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"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in
news:WPSdnQMrn_xhmjXcRVn-2Q@intertex.net:
Yes, the DNC was a disaster this year and FoxNews was spreading it
around.
there is no such thing as fox news. you should refer to it as an
administration spokesperson, as other media pros do.
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| User: "Russell James Simmons" |
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28 Nov 2004 01:26:05 PM |
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Other media pros? Oh you must mean Dan Blather who just resigned to
avoid embarrassment over the papergate scandel that he lied to the
public about. How quaint.
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95AE1C7C77B08keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>...
"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in
news:WPSdnQMrn_xhmjXcRVn-2Q@intertex.net:
Yes, the DNC was a disaster this year and FoxNews was spreading it
around.
there is no such thing as fox news. you should refer to it as an
administration spokesperson, as other media pros do.
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| User: "Richard Hutnik" |
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27 Nov 2004 08:06:13 AM |
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"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in message news:<WPSdnQMrn_xhmjXcRVn-2Q@intertex.net>...
"Richard Hutnik" <richardhutnik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in message
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
If you don't like it, bury your head in the sand somewhere, stop
reading usenet, and leave FoxNews on. Wait, FoxNews is a leading
spreader of disaster news.
- Richard Hutnik
Yes, the DNC was a disaster this year and FoxNews was spreading it around.
Why not flat out call the DNC manure this year? It would fit in
perfectly with what FoxNews usually spreads around anyhow.
- Richard Hutnik
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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26 Nov 2004 11:51:18 PM |
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EggNog <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote:
Yes, the DNC was a disaster this year and FoxNews was spreading it around.
Fox "News" is good at "spreading it around", but it's not news that
they're spreading.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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25 Nov 2004 07:53:09 PM |
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"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in news:AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
no wonder you deleted the new york times articie i quoted in its entirety
before you lied about it.
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| User: "EggNog" |
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25 Nov 2004 08:48:27 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACD4738C36Dkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4...
"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in news:AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-
oQ@intertex.net:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
no wonder you deleted the new york times articie i quoted in its entirety
before you lied about it.
--
http://www.votetoimpeach.org/
You are so twisted and full of hate.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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28 Nov 2004 02:40:16 PM |
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"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in message
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACD4738C36Dkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4...
"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in news:AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-
oQ@intertex.net:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
no wonder you deleted the new york times articie i quoted in its
entirety
before you lied about it.
--
http://www.votetoimpeach.org/
You are so twisted and full of hate.
Actually, you're just full of ***** and a chronic liar.
*****.
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-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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25 Nov 2004 08:49:51 PM |
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"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in news:16qdnTQl5-PrBDvcRVn-
ow@intertex.net:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACD4738C36Dkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4...
"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in news:AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-
oQ@intertex.net:
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
no wonder you deleted the new york times articie i quoted in its entirety
before you lied about it.
You are so twisted and full of hate.
"no wonder you deleted the new york times articie i quoted in its entirety
before you lied about it."
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| User: "John Savard" |
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19 Dec 2004 01:14:42 AM |
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On 26 Nov 2004 02:49:51 GMT, "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com>
wrote, in part:
"no wonder you deleted the new york times articie i quoted in its entirety
before you lied about it."
It's certainly true that "lies and hatred" is a bit much.
I suppose he could have said "enemy propaganda", but that too would
betray a misunderstanding of what America is all about. Even when
America is at war, the American people can still question whether or not
the right strategies are being followed.
And certainly Maureen Dowd's article raises some very legitimate
questions. Even so, it is also true that we have to see to it that there
is *no possibility* to smuggle weapons on planes; that may not catch
terrorists, who don't bother to come when they have no chance, but that
doesn't mean terror attacks are not prevented.
But that can be done in ways consistent with respect for women.
For another view of the issue, I remember seeing the article which is
still on the web at:
http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/lileks010804.html
And then, there's
http://web.israelinsider.com/views/4164.htm
and
http://www.infoisrael.net/cgi-local/text.pl?source=4/b/viii/archives/220120042
Regrettably, in the war on terror, we are dealing with an enemy that
truly has no sense of decency.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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19 Dec 2004 12:54:12 PM |
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John Savard <jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid> wrote:
Regrettably, in the war on terror, we are dealing with an enemy that
truly has no sense of decency.
Is that how you justify the killing of 100,000 innocent people?
Demonization?
Hitler said similar things about the Jews.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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19 Dec 2004 02:43:45 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:14:42 GMT, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid
(John Savard) wrote or quoted :
egrettably, in the war on terror, we are dealing with an enemy that
truly has no sense of decency.
Are you suggesting that America has a sense of decency? surely you
jest.
1. white phosphorus
2. napalm
3. torture
4. sexual abuse
5. child rape.
You also forget that Cheney masterminded 9/11.
"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
nor of Mussolini."
~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes
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| User: "John Savard" |
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19 Dec 2004 10:53:04 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:43:45 GMT, Roedy Green
<look-on@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote, in part:
You also forget that Cheney masterminded 9/11.
Ah, so there's a smiley in your post? It's rather hard to "forget"
something that never happened.
Or perhaps you'll be telling me next that Churchill - possibly with help
from Roosevelt - masterminded Pearl Harbor.
"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
nor of Mussolini."
~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.
Mehmet Elkatmi is apparrently not very familiar with the Holocaust.
Speaking of genocide, there are a few Armenians missing that perhaps he
would like to give an account of.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu" |
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19 Dec 2004 11:21:23 PM |
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In article <41c5b13f.185708@news.ecn.ab.ca>,
jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid (John Savard) writes:
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:43:45 GMT, Roedy Green
<look-on@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote, in part:
You also forget that Cheney masterminded 9/11.
Ah, so there's a smiley in your post? It's rather hard to "forget"
something that never happened.
Or perhaps you'll be telling me next that Churchill - possibly with help
from Roosevelt - masterminded Pearl Harbor.
Masterminded is too strong a word. They were aware, from information within
the Imperial House, that the Militarist Usurpers ruling Japan were going to attack
the US, yes.
We know who trained the Japanese Militarists. And we know who trained Ben Lauden.
The penny just hasn't dropped.
Dhu
"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
nor of Mussolini."
~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.
Mehmet Elkatmi is apparrently not very familiar with the Holocaust.
Speaking of genocide, there are a few Armenians missing that perhaps he
would like to give an account of.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "Russell James Simmons" |
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26 Nov 2004 01:12:04 PM |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what a moron. Why dont you try READING the
post before autoposting?
"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in message news:<16qdnTQl5-PrBDvcRVn-ow@intertex.net>...
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> wrote in news:AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
no wonder you deleted the new york times articie i quoted in its entirety
before you lied about it.
--
http://www.votetoimpeach.org/
You are so twisted and full of hate.
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| User: "Russell James Simmons" |
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26 Nov 2004 01:11:11 PM |
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HOLY HELL, will someone fix this autopost bot?
"EggNog" <scottspam.@overthere.com> pulled the dead hamster from his ***** and wrote in message news:<AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-oQ@intertex.net>...
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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25 Nov 2004 11:01:10 PM |
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In talk.abortion, EggNog
<scottspam@overthere.com>
wrote
on Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:52:00 -0600
<AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-oQ@intertex.net>:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
Complain to Maureen Dowd, if you must. :-P She's the columnist
originally writing the article for the NY Times.
Keegan is merely reprising it. Is she spreading hate and fear?
I think she's merely complaining about some of the less attractive
aspects of being secure -- and I can't blame her too much; women
are sensitive about such things, as they should be (after all,
it's her body they're manhandling in the effort to discover if she's
all natural or if she's wearing C4 falsies!).
I suspect most women don't mind being manhandled -- if it's the right man.
But most won't want it done in front of an audience. :-)
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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25 Nov 2004 11:21:58 PM |
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The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
news:hbmi72-i1o.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net:
In talk.abortion, EggNog
<scottspam@overthere.com>
wrote
on Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:52:00 -0600
<AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-oQ@intertex.net>:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
Complain to Maureen Dowd, if you must. :-P She's the columnist
originally writing the article for the NY Times.
Keegan is merely reprising it. Is she spreading hate and fear?
I think she's merely complaining about some of the less attractive
aspects of being secure -- and I can't blame her too much; women
are sensitive about such things, as they should be (after all,
it's her body they're manhandling in the effort to discover if she's
all natural or if she's wearing C4 falsies!).
i think eggnog knew all of that but, like all neocons and christians, they
must misrepresent.
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26 Nov 2004 10:01:11 AM |
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In talk.abortion, james g. keegan jr.
<keegan@nycap.rr.com>
wrote
on 26 Nov 2004 05:21:58 GMT
<Xns95AD3B6E5591keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4>:
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
news:hbmi72-i1o.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net:
In talk.abortion, EggNog
<scottspam@overthere.com>
wrote
on Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:52:00 -0600
<AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-oQ@intertex.net>:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
Complain to Maureen Dowd, if you must. :-P She's the columnist
originally writing the article for the NY Times.
Keegan is merely reprising it. Is she spreading hate and fear?
I think she's merely complaining about some of the less attractive
aspects of being secure -- and I can't blame her too much; women
are sensitive about such things, as they should be (after all,
it's her body they're manhandling in the effort to discover if she's
all natural or if she's wearing C4 falsies!).
i think eggnog knew all of that but, like all neocons and christians, they
must misrepresent.
I wish I knew for sure; some of them may lie like rugs, but others
might actually believe that the world is safer.
I put Bush in the latter camp. Maybe that's why he got voted in;
sincere politicos are rare these days. (He's sincerely wrong,
of course.)
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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26 Nov 2004 11:14:16 AM |
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The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
news:l6vj72-pj1.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net:
In talk.abortion, james g. keegan jr.
<keegan@nycap.rr.com>
wrote
on 26 Nov 2004 05:21:58 GMT
<Xns95AD3B6E5591keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4>:
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
news:hbmi72-i1o.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net:
In talk.abortion, EggNog
<scottspam@overthere.com>
wrote
on Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:52:00 -0600
<AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-oQ@intertex.net>:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
Complain to Maureen Dowd, if you must. :-P She's the columnist
originally writing the article for the NY Times.
Keegan is merely reprising it. Is she spreading hate and fear?
I think she's merely complaining about some of the less attractive
aspects of being secure -- and I can't blame her too much; women
are sensitive about such things, as they should be (after all,
it's her body they're manhandling in the effort to discover if she's
all natural or if she's wearing C4 falsies!).
i think eggnog knew all of that but, like all neocons and christians,
they must misrepresent.
I wish I knew for sure; some of them may lie like rugs, but others
might actually believe that the world is safer.
i considered that, and i agree it is possible, although only the low,
low end could actually believe that. a colleague suggested that if i
watches the jerry springer show i would see in the guests and audience
the kind of person who might actually believe in bush.
I put Bush in the latter camp. Maybe that's why he got voted in;
sincere politicos are rare these days. (He's sincerely wrong,
of course.)
i don't think he is sincere.
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| User: "Russell James Simmons" |
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| Title: Re: Hiding Breast Bombs |
26 Nov 2004 01:15:59 PM |
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hmmmmmm, well while agreeing completely with your original post now
that you have resorted to finger pointing and name calling I am afraid
I will have to conclude your just another liberal idiot. And please,
no more stupid replies from you are necessary to further support that.
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95AD3B6E5591keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4>...
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
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In talk.abortion, EggNog
<scottspam@overthere.com>
wrote
on Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:52:00 -0600
<AMqdnZ7Vt7ahETvcRVn-oQ@intertex.net>:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165...
You spread hate and lies even on Thanksgiving.
Complain to Maureen Dowd, if you must. :-P She's the columnist
originally writing the article for the NY Times.
Keegan is merely reprising it. Is she spreading hate and fear?
I think she's merely complaining about some of the less attractive
aspects of being secure -- and I can't blame her too much; women
are sensitive about such things, as they should be (after all,
it's her body they're manhandling in the effort to discover if she's
all natural or if she's wearing C4 falsies!).
i think eggnog knew all of that but, like all neocons and christians, they
must misrepresent.
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| User: "Furious George" |
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| Title: Re: Hiding Breast Bombs |
26 Nov 2004 10:31:06 AM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165>...
November 25, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Hiding Breast Bombs
By MAUREEN DOWD
<snip>
I don't get it. If these women have fake boobies, then they shouldn't
be travelling. Otherwise they have nothing to hide.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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26 Nov 2004 01:59:33 PM |
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Furious George <bugme_69@hotmail.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165>...
November 25, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Hiding Breast Bombs
By MAUREEN DOWD
<snip>
I don't get it. If these women have fake boobies, then they shouldn't
be travelling. Otherwise they have nothing to hide.
When will you be posting your tax returns and medical records
and criminal history?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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28 Nov 2004 02:42:16 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Furious George <bugme_69@hotmail.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165>...
November 25, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Hiding Breast Bombs
By MAUREEN DOWD
<snip>
I don't get it. If these women have fake boobies, then they shouldn't
be travelling. Otherwise they have nothing to hide.
When will you be posting your tax returns and medical records
and criminal history?
Slow down Ray. I smell the distinct odor of sarcasm in his words.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "Errant_Eye" |
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| Title: Re: Hiding Breast Bombs |
26 Nov 2004 12:46:25 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95ACCC0B8E227keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.165>...
November 25, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Hiding Breast Bombs
By MAUREEN DOWD
WASHINGTON
It always makes me feel slimy and humiliated, as though I'm in one of those
cheesy women-in-prison movies, with titles like "Caged," "Slammer Girls" or
"Reform School Girls."
snip
I watched a Transportation Security
Administration screener brusquely insist that my friend take off her blazer
even though she had on only lingerie underneath - a see-through camisole -
and the man behind her was leering.
Every traveller has the right to request private screening.
Airport screening procedures are more reactive than imaginative. There's an
attempted shoe bombing, so all passengers must shed their shoes.
Got a better suggestion? Just ignore shoes from now on?
Two female
Chechens may or may not have sneaked explosives onto Russian planes, so now
some T.S.A. genius decides all women are subject to strips and body
searches.
2 female Chechens did sneak bombs aboard. Bodily remains suggest the
explosives were wrapped around their upper torso.
I get flagged for extra security every time I buy a one-way ticket, which
seems particularly lame. Doesn't the T.S.A. realize that a careful
terrorist plotter like Mohammed Atta could figure this out and use his
Saudi charity money to pop for round trips even if the return portion gets
wasted?
In two articles in The Times, Joe Sharkey has chronicled the plaints of
women angry about new procedures in airport security that have increased
both the number and intensity of the airport pat-down, or "breast exam," as
one woman put it.
He described the experience of Patti LuPone, the singer and actress, at the
Fort Lauderdale airport, who resisted taking off her shirt and got barred
from her flight, and of 71-year-old Jenepher Field, who walks with the aid
of a cane, being subjected to a breast pat-down at the airport outside
Kansas City, Mo. (Do we have intelligence telling us that grandmothers are
part of Al Qaeda now?)
A grandmother was found with a derringer in a book
http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=2609453
Think it might be possible for a grandmotherly type to be given a
package by a relative, maybe a boyfriend of a granddaughter?
That is how Pan Am 103 was brought down. The Libyan agent befriended
and impregnated a British national then gave her a gift of a bomb
laden radio to carry on the plane. Is Ms Dowd suggesting we ignore
pregnant women?
Somebody tell me what quantity of explosive material they have found
through these strip searches, because I've got a hunch it's zero. How many
billions are they wasting on this?
It is called deterence.
Maybe we're not at the Philip K. ***** level of technology yet. But how
about some positive profiling?
1) See above re the Lockerbie incident
2) Look up the registered traveller project.
http://tsaweb.tsa.dot.gov/tsaweb/display?content=09000519800c9332
If airport security can have a watch list
for the bad guys, why can't it develop a watch list for the good guys?
Can't there be a database of trustworthy American frequent travelers who
are not going to secrete things in their bras? After all, no one is going
to sneak anything in there without our knowledge. Can they at least get a
screen?
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| User: "Steven Litvintchouk" |
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| Title: Re: Hiding Breast Bombs |
26 Nov 2004 07:20:29 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
November 25, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Hiding Breast Bombs
By MAUREEN DOWD
WASHINGTON
. . . .
Maybe we're not at the Philip K. ***** level of technology yet. But how
about some positive profiling? If airport security can have a watch list
for the bad guys, why can't it develop a watch list for the good guys?
Can't there be a database of trustworthy American frequent travelers who
are not going to secrete things in their bras?
I proposed that idea myself but a lot of folks don't want it. It
amounts to a travel permit, which is reminiscent of the "internal
passports" that police states have.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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