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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "J Young"
Date: 17 Jul 2005 09:53:32 PM
Object: Hiroshima
During these next few weeks, the 60th anniversary of the atomic bombing
of Hiroshima will dominate much of the media's attention. Many articles
will be written and documentaries broadcast detailing the suffering of
the city's population. None of these outlets should forget to also
detail the initial sneak attack at Pearl Harbor that commenced this
war, killing thousands of innocent Americans. They should remember to
run articles and films detailing the atrocities perpetrated on allied
POW's, crimes as vile as anything the Nazi's committed in Russia. They
should detail the occupation of the Asian countries that fell under the
Japanese sword. Was the bombing justified? If it saved even ONE
American life, it was worth it. August 6th should be commemorated as a
holiday honoring Harry Truman.
http://www.abcasiapacific.com/news/stories/asiapacific_stories_141604...
The Japanese city of Hiroshima is preparing to commemorate the 60th
anniversary of the world's first atomic bombing on August 6.
Some 140,000 people, almost half the city's population at the time,
died immediately or in the months after the nuclear attack from
radiation injuries or horrific burns.
Latest research has found 76-percent of survivors still experience
flashbacks.
The Hiroshima bombing was followed by the dropping of a second atomic
bomb on the city of Nagasaki on August 9, 1945, leaving tens of
thousands more dead.
.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 17 Jul 2005 10:14:11 PM
On 17 Jul 2005 20:00:30 -0700, "Ryd" <ryda56p@yahoo.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<1121655630.582801.50720@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:

200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why on earth would Truman kill so many CIVILIANS???

Oh, I know, they were JAPANESE CIVILIANS!

And KILLING THEM WITH A WEAPON NEVER BEFORE USED ON HUMANS JUST SEEMED
LIKE THE THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

Ryda

The firebomb raids on Dresden and Tokyo killed many more, and the
invasion casualties were prevented.
Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.
.
User: "Ryd"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 17 Jul 2005 10:20:25 PM
Attila wrote:

200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why on earth would Truman kill so many CIVILIANS???

Oh, I know, they were JAPANESE CIVILIANS!

And KILLING THEM WITH A WEAPON NEVER BEFORE USED ON HUMANS JUST SEEMED
LIKE THE THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

Ryda


The firebomb raids on Dresden and Tokyo killed many more, and the
invasion casualties were prevented.

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.

How can you say that? Let's just take Japan. You're right, the Tokyo
firebombing unleashed death on tens of thousands of Japanese CIVILIANS.
Women and children in Tokyo.
Women and children in Hiroshima.
Women and children in Nagasaki.
You like blowing up women and children, do you?
Why, exactly, was it "the proper thing to do at the time?"
Why was it proper to kill almost 300,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN CIVILIANS
USING FIRE AND ATOMIC WEAPONS?
Just because you SAY SO?
You ignorant *****.
You won't answer because you're a *****. A pathetic little *****.
I fart in your general direction.
Ryda
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 17 Jul 2005 10:35:50 PM
"Ryd" <ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121656825.152139.254100@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Attila wrote:

200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why on earth would Truman kill so many CIVILIANS???

Oh, I know, they were JAPANESE CIVILIANS!

And KILLING THEM WITH A WEAPON NEVER BEFORE USED ON HUMANS JUST SEEMED
LIKE THE THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

Ryda


The firebomb raids on Dresden and Tokyo killed many more, and the
invasion casualties were prevented.

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.


How can you say that? Let's just take Japan. You're right, the Tokyo
firebombing unleashed death on tens of thousands of Japanese CIVILIANS.


Women and children in Tokyo.
Women and children in Hiroshima.
Women and children in Nagasaki.

A prolonged ground assault would have killed many, many more. You'll need
to talk to the Hiro Hito as to why he declared the entire population of
Japan as combatants in 1944.
.

User: "The Secretary of HomIntern"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 01:23:38 AM
It was a dark and stormy night in alt.politics.homosexuality, when Ryd
wrote:

Attila wrote:

<snip>

I fart in your general direction.

What, are you French? <ducks>
--
_______________________________________________
"The personal _is_ political."
Superfaggot; GGGHD; MWFA; HCNB; MU; BCB; FI
Economic Left/Right: -5.71
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.23
Killfiled by: directory
.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 04:03:35 AM
On 17 Jul 2005 20:20:25 -0700, "Ryd" <ryda56p@yahoo.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<1121656825.152139.254100@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> wrote:

Attila wrote:

200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why on earth would Truman kill so many CIVILIANS???

Oh, I know, they were JAPANESE CIVILIANS!

And KILLING THEM WITH A WEAPON NEVER BEFORE USED ON HUMANS JUST SEEMED
LIKE THE THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

Ryda


The firebomb raids on Dresden and Tokyo killed many more, and the
invasion casualties were prevented.

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.


How can you say that?

It was easy. Would you like me to do it again?
Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.

Let's just take Japan. You're right, the Tokyo
firebombing unleashed death on tens of thousands of Japanese CIVILIANS.

Who supported the war, provided the infrastructure to support the
military, and were training to suicide if necessary to kill as many
invading troops as possible.



Women and children in Tokyo.
Women and children in Hiroshima.
Women and children in Nagasaki.

So?


You like blowing up women and children, do you?

I support reducing the ability of the enemy to make war no matter what
it takes.


Why, exactly, was it "the proper thing to do at the time?"

Because it ended the war with fewer casualties than an invasion.


Why was it proper to kill almost 300,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN CIVILIANS
USING FIRE AND ATOMIC WEAPONS?

It reduced the ability of the enemy to continue the war.


Just because you SAY SO?

No.

You ignorant *****.

You are the one showing your ignorance.


You won't answer because you're a *****. A pathetic little *****.

But I did answer, so what does that make you?


I fart in your general direction.

Fine. Do as you like. As long as it is here it doesn't bother me.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 06:27:44 AM
Attila wrote:


200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why on earth would Truman kill so many CIVILIANS???

Oh, I know, they were JAPANESE CIVILIANS!

And KILLING THEM WITH A WEAPON NEVER BEFORE USED ON HUMANS JUST SEEMED
LIKE THE THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

Ryda


The firebomb raids on Dresden and Tokyo killed many more, and the
invasion casualties were prevented.

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.


How can you say that?


It was easy. Would you like me to do it again?

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.

Let's just take Japan. You're right, the Tokyo
firebombing unleashed death on tens of thousands of Japanese CIVILIANS.


Who supported the war, provided the infrastructure to support the
military, and were training to suicide if necessary to kill as many
invading troops as possible.

Now, you're babbling. You're saying that 200,000 women and children
civlians were "training to suicide" against the U.S.?
You fucking dolt. You mutherfucking simpleton. You moutherfucking
asswipe.


Women and children in Tokyo.
Women and children in Hiroshima.
Women and children in Nagasaki.


So?

So, what is your position on "collateral damage" in, say, Iraq?
OK to incur some losses in civilian lives if there are significant
reasons to do so?
You fucking 12 year old. You're absurd.



You like blowing up women and children, do you?


I support reducing the ability of the enemy to make war no matter what
it takes.

You won't take responsibility for your position. You're a fucking *****.
A ***** who can't talk straight. You blithely support the killing of
unarmed women and children--hundreds of thousands of them, simply
because it simplifies your need to comprehend the factors and forces
that were present at the time of the crisis.
And, of course, because you are a mutherfucking racist. Japanese women
and children aren't a problem for you to justifying killing.
Listen up *****. Next month with the 60th anniversaries of
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I want you to reflect on your sorry racist
simplistic ***** and fucking PRAY for some motherfucking insight as to
why you are a motherfucking racist rationalizing pig.


Why, exactly, was it "the proper thing to do at the time?"


Because it ended the war with fewer casualties than an invasion.

Justify your position. You can't just state a simple minded causal
chain and expect people to believe it because you uttered it, you
fucking *****. Make your position. Especially, cover the part about
KILLING 200,000 + CIVILIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
You fucking simplistic jackoff.


Why was it proper to kill almost 300,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN CIVILIANS
USING FIRE AND ATOMIC WEAPONS?


It reduced the ability of the enemy to continue the war.


Just because you SAY SO?


No.

Well, come up with it then, fuckface.


You ignorant *****.


You are the one showing your ignorance.

You are the one showing your racism, simplisim, and lack of integrity.


You won't answer because you're a *****. A pathetic little *****.


But I did answer, so what does that make you?

You've babbled. You didn't answer in any substantive way, you fucking
puke.

I fart in your general direction.


Fine. Do as you like. As long as it is here it doesn't bother me.

***** you, *****. What bothers you doesn't interest me and isn't
important.
What doesn't bother you (an immature postion that killing of 200,000+
Japanese women and children was no big deal) is what's really sad.
You stupid *****. You just don't know how mutherfucking stupid
and callous and offensive you really are.
I spit on you.
Ryda
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 06:30:57 AM
<ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121686064.745986.75880@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Attila wrote:


200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why on earth would Truman kill so many CIVILIANS???

Oh, I know, they were JAPANESE CIVILIANS!

And KILLING THEM WITH A WEAPON NEVER BEFORE USED ON HUMANS JUST
SEEMED
LIKE THE THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

Ryda


The firebomb raids on Dresden and Tokyo killed many more, and the
invasion casualties were prevented.

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.


How can you say that?


It was easy. Would you like me to do it again?

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.

Let's just take Japan. You're right, the Tokyo
firebombing unleashed death on tens of thousands of Japanese CIVILIANS.


Who supported the war, provided the infrastructure to support the
military, and were training to suicide if necessary to kill as many
invading troops as possible.


Now, you're babbling. You're saying that 200,000 women and children
civlians were "training to suicide" against the U.S.?

According to Hiro Hito, yes they were.



Women and children in Tokyo.
Women and children in Hiroshima.
Women and children in Nagasaki.


So?


So, what is your position on "collateral damage" in, say, Iraq?


I don't/didn't support the war in Iraq, the situation in Iraq and the
situation with Japan during WWII is not comparable on any scale.
.
User: "Dennis Kemmerer"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 10:31:44 AM
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:RpMCe.534$6f.54@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...


<ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121686064.745986.75880@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Attila wrote:


200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why is this in a.p.h.?
[snip]
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 04:21:09 PM
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
news:AXPCe.4196$NU2.1670@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...

"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:RpMCe.534$6f.54@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...


<ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121686064.745986.75880@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Attila wrote:


200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.


Why is this in a.p.h.?

[snip]

Dunno. But it's at least more interesting than the usual drone of the
yellow-bellied bigot bird.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 06:41:39 AM
Andrealphus wrote:

I don't/didn't support the war in Iraq, the situation in Iraq and the
situation with Japan during WWII is not comparable on any scale.

Aww, how rhetorically effective. You pick intensity, you pick scale.
You pick numbers. How cute.
Are you 11 years old?
The numbers are not comparable. That's trivial. What a blinding glimps
of the obvious. The numbers in Iraq are tiny compared to the war on
Japan.
Boy, you must have an IQ of at least, um, 75.
The basic structure of factors is actually quite similar on the
question of trading civilian deaths of a different ethnicity to achieve
strategic and tactical objectives.
Are you as stupid as Attila?
Ryda
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 04:05:14 PM
<ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121686899.012642.284730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Andrealphus wrote:

I don't/didn't support the war in Iraq, the situation in Iraq and the
situation with Japan during WWII is not comparable on any scale.


Aww, how rhetorically effective. You pick intensity, you pick scale.
You pick numbers. How cute.

I didn't pick them, history has picked them. They simply are not
comparable.

Are you 11 years old?

The numbers are not comparable. That's trivial. What a blinding glimps
of the obvious. The numbers in Iraq are tiny compared to the war on
Japan.
Boy, you must have an IQ of at least, um, 75.


The basic structure of factors is actually quite similar

No, they simply are not.
.

User: "Freddy X"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 09:37:47 AM
wrote:

Andrealphus wrote:

I don't/didn't support the war in Iraq, the situation in Iraq and the
situation with Japan during WWII is not comparable on any scale.


Aww, how rhetorically effective. You pick intensity, you pick scale.
You pick numbers. How cute.
Are you 11 years old?
The numbers are not comparable. That's trivial. What a blinding glimps
of the obvious. The numbers in Iraq are tiny compared to the war on
Japan.
Boy, you must have an IQ of at least, um, 75.

"Situation" is a word not a number you stupid illiterate.

The basic structure of factors is actually quite similar on the
question of trading civilian deaths of a different ethnicity to achieve
strategic and tactical objectives.

Are you as stupid as Attila?


No one is as stupid as you, Ryda.
.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 09:44:27 AM
On 18 Jul 2005 04:41:39 -0700,
in alt.abortion with
message-id <1121686899.012642.284730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
wrote:

Andrealphus wrote:

I don't/didn't support the war in Iraq, the situation in Iraq and the
situation with Japan during WWII is not comparable on any scale.


Aww, how rhetorically effective. You pick intensity, you pick scale.
You pick numbers. How cute.
Are you 11 years old?

The numbers are not comparable. That's trivial. What a blinding glimps
of the obvious. The numbers in Iraq are tiny compared to the war on
Japan.
Boy, you must have an IQ of at least, um, 75.


The basic structure of factors is actually quite similar on the
question of trading civilian deaths of a different ethnicity to achieve
strategic and tactical objectives.

There was a declared war between the US and Japan, and the war had
lasted for over three years. The war was against the legal government
of Japan, and the military forces they controlled. The war included
the invasion of the territory under their direct military control, and
included formal and direct conflict between the uniformed and
officially supported troops on each side.
There has been no war like WW2 since 1945, and the conflicts since
cannot be compared to it.


Are you as stupid as Attila?

Ryda

.

User: "jimpgh2002"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 09:11:04 AM
On 18 Jul 2005 04:41:39 -0700,
wrote:

Andrealphus wrote:

I don't/didn't support the war in Iraq, the situation in Iraq and the
situation with Japan during WWII is not comparable on any scale.


Aww, how rhetorically effective. You pick intensity, you pick scale.
You pick numbers. How cute.
Are you 11 years old?

You seem more like the 11 yr. old, with your name-calling and
inane babbling.

The numbers are not comparable. That's trivial. What a blinding glimps
of the obvious. The numbers in Iraq are tiny compared to the war on
Japan.
Boy, you must have an IQ of at least, um, 75.

Which would be about 50 points higher than you.


The basic structure of factors is actually quite similar on the
question of trading civilian deaths of a different ethnicity to achieve
strategic and tactical objectives.

As if we are purposely killing civilians in Iraq. Are you for
real?

.



User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 09:39:44 AM
On 18 Jul 2005 04:27:44 -0700,
in alt.abortion with
message-id <1121686064.745986.75880@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
wrote:



Attila wrote:


200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why on earth would Truman kill so many CIVILIANS???

Oh, I know, they were JAPANESE CIVILIANS!

And KILLING THEM WITH A WEAPON NEVER BEFORE USED ON HUMANS JUST SEEMED
LIKE THE THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

Ryda


The firebomb raids on Dresden and Tokyo killed many more, and the
invasion casualties were prevented.

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.


How can you say that?


It was easy. Would you like me to do it again?

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.

Let's just take Japan. You're right, the Tokyo
firebombing unleashed death on tens of thousands of Japanese CIVILIANS.


Who supported the war, provided the infrastructure to support the
military, and were training to suicide if necessary to kill as many
invading troops as possible.


Now, you're babbling. You're saying that 200,000 women and children
civlians were "training to suicide" against the U.S.?

Yes. The orders to train civilians were already given and the people
were already doing whatever training they could.
This was a religious war to them, and to die for the Emperor was the
best thing they could possibly do. To surrender was to dishonor
themselves and all of their relatives. Look at the hundreds of
civilians that killed themselves in Okinawa rather than be take alive
by Americans.


You fucking dolt. You mutherfucking simpleton. You moutherfucking
asswipe.

You are babbling.


Women and children in Tokyo.
Women and children in Hiroshima.
Women and children in Nagasaki.


So?


So, what is your position on "collateral damage" in, say, Iraq?

That is a different situation. We are not at war with Iraq as a
nation and they are not using their population to support a war.


OK to incur some losses in civilian lives if there are significant
reasons to do so?
You fucking 12 year old. You're absurd.

I am probably older than you are.



You like blowing up women and children, do you?


I support reducing the ability of the enemy to make war no matter what
it takes.


You won't take responsibility for your position. You're a fucking *****.

My goodness! You really appear upset. Too bad you don't know what
you are talking about.


A ***** who can't talk straight. You blithely support the killing of
unarmed women and children--hundreds of thousands of them, simply
because it simplifies your need to comprehend the factors and forces
that were present at the time of the crisis.

Not at all. I support whatever it takes to de fete an enemy during a
state of war.


And, of course, because you are a mutherfucking racist. Japanese women
and children aren't a problem for you to justifying killing.

I would have had no problem with dropping it on Berlin either if it
had been ready on time.
Especially on Normandy in June of 1944.


Listen up *****. Next month with the 60th anniversaries of
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I want you to reflect on your sorry racist
simplistic ***** and fucking PRAY for some motherfucking insight as to
why you are a motherfucking racist rationalizing pig.

Pray to who? Please include proof of existence of whatever god you
select.



Why, exactly, was it "the proper thing to do at the time?"


Because it ended the war with fewer casualties than an invasion.


Justify your position.

I just did.

You can't just state a simple minded causal
chain and expect people to believe it because you uttered it, you
fucking *****. Make your position. Especially, cover the part about
KILLING 200,000 + CIVILIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

You fucking simplistic jackoff.

The situation was very simple. At the time the only reaction was
relief that the war was over. It was only those who were born and
grew up after the event that ever questioned it. Those who were there
were in total support.




Why was it proper to kill almost 300,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN CIVILIANS
USING FIRE AND ATOMIC WEAPONS?

Because it was not possible to talk them to death, as it seems you are
fond of doing.


It reduced the ability of the enemy to continue the war.


Just because you SAY SO?


No.


Well, come up with it then, fuckface.

How would you have handled the situation, bearing in mind there was a
shooting war going on?



You ignorant *****.


You are the one showing your ignorance.


You are the one showing your racism, simplisim, and lack of integrity.


You won't answer because you're a *****. A pathetic little *****.


But I did answer, so what does that make you?


You've babbled. You didn't answer in any substantive way, you fucking
puke.

No, you simple don't like my answers. Which does nothing to
invalidate them.



I fart in your general direction.


Fine. Do as you like. As long as it is here it doesn't bother me.


***** you, *****. What bothers you doesn't interest me and isn't
important.

What doesn't bother you (an immature postion that killing of 200,000+
Japanese women and children was no big deal) is what's really sad.

You stupid *****. You just don't know how mutherfucking stupid
and callous and offensive you really are.

I spit on you.

Fine. Do as you like. As long as it is here it doesn't bother me.
.
User: "Ryd"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 09:48:23 AM
Attila the *****:

Do as you like. As long as it is here it doesn't bother me.

LOL. Where the ***** else would it be?
LOL.
You fucking *****.
You miserable wretch.
"As-long-as-it-is-HERE-it-doesn't-both-er-me."
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL,
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL,
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL,
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL.
Ryda
.
User: "jimpgh2002"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 01:22:31 PM
On 18 Jul 2005 07:48:23 -0700, "Ryd" <ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote:

Attila the *****:

Do as you like. As long as it is here it doesn't bother me.


LOL. Where the ***** else would it be?

LOL.
You fucking *****.
You miserable wretch.

"As-long-as-it-is-HERE-it-doesn't-both-er-me."

LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL,
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL,
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL,
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL.

As Ryd goes off the deep end. Bye bye, Ryd...told ya to seek
help. Too late now, mate.
.





User: "jimpgh2002"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 12:37:11 AM
On 17 Jul 2005 20:20:25 -0700, "Ryd" <ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote:

Attila wrote:

200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why on earth would Truman kill so many CIVILIANS???

Oh, I know, they were JAPANESE CIVILIANS!

And KILLING THEM WITH A WEAPON NEVER BEFORE USED ON HUMANS JUST SEEMED
LIKE THE THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

Ryda


The firebomb raids on Dresden and Tokyo killed many more, and the
invasion casualties were prevented.

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.


How can you say that? Let's just take Japan. You're right, the Tokyo
firebombing unleashed death on tens of thousands of Japanese CIVILIANS.


Women and children in Tokyo.
Women and children in Hiroshima.
Women and children in Nagasaki.

You like blowing up women and children, do you?

Why, exactly, was it "the proper thing to do at the time?"

Why was it proper to kill almost 300,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN CIVILIANS
USING FIRE AND ATOMIC WEAPONS?

Just because you SAY SO?
You ignorant *****.

You won't answer because you're a *****. A pathetic little *****.

I fart in your general direction.

Ryda

Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion. America did not
ask to be involved in this war. Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.
.
User: "The Secretary of HomIntern"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 04:26:55 AM
It was a dark and stormy night in alt.politics.homosexuality, when
jimpgh2002 wrote:

On 17 Jul 2005 20:20:25 -0700, "Ryd" wrote:

Attila wrote:

200,000 + civilians killed by atomic weapons.

Why on earth would Truman kill so many CIVILIANS???

Oh, I know, they were JAPANESE CIVILIANS!

And KILLING THEM WITH A WEAPON NEVER BEFORE USED ON HUMANS JUST SEEMED
LIKE THE THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

Ryda


The firebomb raids on Dresden and Tokyo killed many more, and the
invasion casualties were prevented.

Yes, it was exactly the proper thing to do at the time.


How can you say that? Let's just take Japan. You're right, the Tokyo
firebombing unleashed death on tens of thousands of Japanese CIVILIANS.


Women and children in Tokyo.
Women and children in Hiroshima.
Women and children in Nagasaki.

You like blowing up women and children, do you?

Why, exactly, was it "the proper thing to do at the time?"

Why was it proper to kill almost 300,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN CIVILIANS
USING FIRE AND ATOMIC WEAPONS?

Just because you SAY SO?
You ignorant *****.

You won't answer because you're a *****. A pathetic little *****.

I fart in your general direction.

Ryda


Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion. America did not
ask to be involved in this war. Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.

And the only reason you entered it on the side you did was because FDR was
re-elected in 1940. Lindbergh was more than willing to side with the Nazis,
and if he had, the Thousand-Year Reich would be flourishing today, Japan
would rule Asia and Australia, and the American Empire would already
stretch from pole to pole in the Western Hemisphere.
--
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"The personal _is_ political."
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 08:26:12 PM
jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote:

Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion.

You're a sucker for government propaganda.

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.

Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.

And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 08:43:25 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dbhkrj$8m8$1@bolt.sonic.net...

jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote:

Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion.


You're a sucker for government propaganda.

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.


Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?

To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 09:29:41 PM
Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote:

Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion.


You're a sucker for government propaganda.

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.


Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?


To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.

And Hitler killed millions in order to improve humanity.
60+ years later and people haven't learned anything. Killing is
still used as a solution to killing. Hate is still is presented
as a solution to hate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 09:32:32 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dbhoik$eta$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote:


Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion.


You're a sucker for government propaganda.

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.


Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?


To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.


And Hitler killed millions in order to improve humanity.

Which is irrelevant to the point.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 10:42:37 PM
Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote:

Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion.


You're a sucker for government propaganda.

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.


Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?


To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.


And Hitler killed millions in order to improve humanity.


Which is irrelevant to the point.

It is the point.
No matter what excuse you come up with you're still trying to justify
the killing of hundreds of thousands of people. Sure, you think your
reasons are good enough. So did Hitler. So did Stalin. So did
Saddam.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 19 Jul 2005 05:32:12 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dbhsrc$kqg$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote:


Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion.


You're a sucker for government propaganda.

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.


Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?


To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.


And Hitler killed millions in order to improve humanity.


Which is irrelevant to the point.


It is the point.

No, it is irrelevant to the point.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 19 Jul 2005 09:03:34 AM
Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote:


Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion.


You're a sucker for government propaganda.

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.


Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?


To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.


And Hitler killed millions in order to improve humanity.


Which is irrelevant to the point.


It is the point.


No, it is irrelevant to the point.

The murderous coward runs away.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 19 Jul 2005 12:35:19 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dbj17m$v8v$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote:


Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion.


You're a sucker for government propaganda.

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.


Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?


To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.


And Hitler killed millions in order to improve humanity.


Which is irrelevant to the point.


It is the point.


No, it is irrelevant to the point.


The murderous coward runs away.

Really? How fast can you run?
.



User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 11:32:35 PM
(Ray Fischer) wrote in news:dbhsrc$kqg$1
@bolt.sonic.net:

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <

> wrote in message

Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <

> wrote in message

jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote:


Fart all you want...you're still an idiot. AMERICAN lives
were spared by this in lieu of a ground invasion.


You're a sucker for government propaganda.

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.


Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?


To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.


And Hitler killed millions in order to improve humanity.


Which is irrelevant to the point.


It is the point.

No matter what excuse you come up with you're still trying to justify
the killing of hundreds of thousands of people. Sure, you think your
reasons are good enough. So did Hitler. So did Stalin. So did
Saddam.

And now the bush apologists...
.



User: ""

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 10:35:29 PM
Ray Fischer wrote:

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?


To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.


And Hitler killed millions in order to improve humanity.

60+ years later and people haven't learned anything. Killing is
still used as a solution to killing. Hate is still is presented
as a solution to hate.

Killing unarmed civilians is much easier to assimilate if you call the
women and children victims names like "soldiers" or, best of all,
"starters of it."
Just depersonalize them, then kill them.
Or, be like Pus Head and Atilla the *****-- kill them, then
depersonalize them.
Either way.
LOL.
Ryd
.


User: "Ryd"

Title: Re: Hiroshima 18 Jul 2005 09:05:55 PM
Andrealphus wrote:

America did not
ask to be involved in this war.


Irrelevant.

Japan attacked US. They started it,
we finished it.


And that justifies killing hundreds of thousands of people?


To save as many as 1.2 million? You bet.

You dumb fucking Pus head.
You don't realize, it doesn't penetrate your thick skull, that the
Islamists are saying the same thing about the U.S. Bin Ladin says he is
duty bound to kill 4 million Americans, including 2 million children.
He has specifically said this. Why? He figures that's how many lives we
owe them.
He, also, says "You started it, we will finish it."
Wonder what kind of technology he is banking on using to get that many
dead U.S. civilians?
Pus head, you are a stupid *****. A stupid Pus head.
A pathetic stupid.
I pray you do not reproduce.
Ryd
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