rbwinn3@juno.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0410301818.57acafde@posting.google.com>...

rbwinn3@juno.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0410291956.7b1d52cc@posting.google.co

Mark Sebree

Well, you said that John was kicking before he was born. How did he
do it without being a child?
Robert B. winn

Simple. He was a fetus. And fetuses kick all the time, especially
late in the pregnancy. This is very well known.

Also, children are born. Since John had not been born yet, he was not
yet a child.

Mark Sebree

Luke says he was a child.

So?

Why wouldn't a practicing physician like
Luke was have known whether or not Elisabeth had a child in her womb?
Robert b. winn

Translation error, probably. Or he did not know a better word. After
all, physicians at that time were ruled mostly by superstition. It is
doubtful that he had much formal training, since almost none existed.
He would have trained as an apprentice under another "physician", and
if his mentor was ignorant of the correct terms, Luke would be as
well.

Also, given the high mortality rate among infants at the time (up
until the 20th century for most of the world, actually), I know that
the fetus would not be considered a person until some time after
birth, and no earlier than birth in any case.

Your assertion would be more believeable if you were able to present
the original Greek that the verse was written in. It is well known
that the KJV is loaded with inaccurate translations.

Mark Sebree