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"J Young" |
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30 May 2007 11:23:28 PM |
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House: Allow religion in school |
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken as
freedom from religion"
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/050107dntexschoolprayer.23b6eeb5.html
Legislature: Bill clarifies rights; critics fear campus evangelizing
The House embraced legislation Monday that seeks to clarify the rights
of Texas public school students to offer public prayers at football
games or graduation, hand out religious messages or hold religious
meetings during the school day if they want.
Supporters said the Schoolchildren's Religious Liberties Act, which
passed on a 110-33 vote, would protect districts from lawsuits by
setting guidelines for students' religious expression while protecting
students from being admonished, for example, if they talk about Jesus
in an assignment about Easter.
"Freedom of religion should not be taken as freedom from religion,"
Gov. Rick Perry said. "This was a vote for tolerance of diverse views
in our education system so that students are not admonished for
wishing a soldier overseas a 'Merry Christmas' or for any other
harmless forms of expression."
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| User: "Robert Maas, see http://tinyurl.com/uh3t" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow religion in school |
31 May 2007 09:56:28 AM |
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From: J Young <youngopini...@aol.com>
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be
taken as freedom from religion"
If that's what he really said, he's totally wrong, and you are
equally wrong for agreeing with him.
The various religions are contradictory to each other. It is
impossible to follow (believe, obey, practice) them all.
Accordingly, if you are forced to follow somebody else's religion,
then you can't possibly also follow your own. Consequently you
can't have freedom to follow your own religion unless you are also
free *not* to follow what somebody else would want you to follow.
Putting it succinctly:
You can't have freedom *of* religion unless you have freedom *from* religion.
Now religion is in the eyes of the beholder. What one person might
consider to be a proper religion, is rejected by another person as
not really a religion. So if you let somebody else define what are
the valid religions, you are allowing them to define which
religions you are allowed to believe, so you really don't have
freedom of religion. For example, if the Catholic Church would have
their way, Catholicism is the *only* religion there is. Anything
else isn't really a religion.
Now suppose you have the rule of law that everyone can choose which
religion they follow, but it *must* be a real religion, not a
made-up thing that isn't a religion. So long as they really do
follow a religion, then they are exempt from following the State
Religion. But Atheists and other non-religious people are *not*
allowed to simply deny all religion. But that doesn't work, by the
reasoning of the previous paragraph, that lots of legitimate
religions would be ruled not really religions by the people in
power, and so people wouldn't really have freedom of religion,
they'd be forced to follow one of the very very few "true"
religions as defined/allowed by the people in power.
The only rule that really gives *everyone* freedom of religion, is
to *never* require somebody to *prove* they have a true religion,
simply allow *everyone* to reject anybody else's religion that
somebody might try to impose on them. Let everyone practice
whatever they want, without somebody checking if it's "really" a
religion, and without anyone trying to impose another religion on
them. That rule would in fact give people the right to not follow
any religion whatsoever. But that's the only system that truly
gives everyone the right to follow whatever religion they want
without coercion to follow another instead.
Anyone who rejects my reasoning above, who says freedom *from*
religion isn't of any value, will be *required* to follow Gary G.
Ford's religion: You must worship the Swimp and the Deep River
Zombie. If your own religion disallows you from worshipping the
Swimp and the Deep River Zombie, tough *****!! Simultaneously you
will be *required* to follow *my* religion, which absolutely
forbids *all* worship whatsoever, but which does require
remembrance and celebration of the birthdays of all the famous
scientists and other great secular workers and peacemakers I
choose, including Thomas Jefferson, Charles Darwin, Mahatma Ghandi,
Alfred Russel Wallace, Jimmy Carter, Richard Dawkins, and most
recently added to my list, Clinton C. Myers. My religion also
requires a tithe of $50 per month to *me*, to pay for lawyers to
help me sue spammers per California law and eventually put an end
to spam, and to pay for bodyguards when I preach (on the immorality
of all forms of worship) in public schools.
<http://www.sfgate.com/c/a/2007/05/13/MNGMSPQ8LE1.DTL>
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow religion in school |
31 May 2007 04:22:36 PM |
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On May 31, 10:56 am, (Robert Maas, see http://tinyurl.com/uh3t)
wrote:
From: J Young <youngopini...@aol.com>
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be
taken as freedom from religion"
If that's what he really said, he's totally wrong, and you are
equally wrong for agreeing with him.
The various religions are contradictory to each other. It is
impossible to follow (believe, obey, practice) them all.
Accordingly, if you are forced to follow somebody else's religion,
then you can't possibly also follow your own. Consequently you
can't have freedom to follow your own religion unless you are also
free *not* to follow what somebody else would want you to follow.
Putting it succinctly:
You can't have freedom *of* religion unless you have freedom *from* religion.
Now religion is in the eyes of the beholder. What one person might
consider to be a proper religion, is rejected by another person as
not really a religion. So if you let somebody else define what are
the valid religions, you are allowing them to define which
religions you are allowed to believe, so you really don't have
freedom of religion. For example, if the Catholic Church would have
their way, Catholicism is the *only* religion there is. Anything
else isn't really a religion.
Now suppose you have the rule of law that everyone can choose which
religion they follow, but it *must* be a real religion, not a
made-up thing that isn't a religion. So long as they really do
follow a religion, then they are exempt from following the State
Religion. But Atheists and other non-religious people are *not*
allowed to simply deny all religion. But that doesn't work, by the
reasoning of the previous paragraph, that lots of legitimate
religions would be ruled not really religions by the people in
power, and so people wouldn't really have freedom of religion,
they'd be forced to follow one of the very very few "true"
religions as defined/allowed by the people in power.
The only rule that really gives *everyone* freedom of religion, is
to *never* require somebody to *prove* they have a true religion,
simply allow *everyone* to reject anybody else's religion that
somebody might try to impose on them. Let everyone practice
whatever they want, without somebody checking if it's "really" a
religion, and without anyone trying to impose another religion on
them. That rule would in fact give people the right to not follow
any religion whatsoever. But that's the only system that truly
gives everyone the right to follow whatever religion they want
without coercion to follow another instead.
Yup well said. All these "it doesn't mean freedom from religion"
shitheels aren't fooling me. Gee its just a coincidence that Mr. "No
Freedom From" JUST HAPPENS to be from the predominent religion in the
area. If I was a school administrator I would follow the letter of his
law and have a Pagan shaman lead the school in Pagan prayer....and
publicize the fact.
Sure thing I'd get fired, and I'd sue the state for every penny I
could wring out of them.
Hatter
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| User: "MooJoo" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow religion in school |
31 May 2007 10:21:39 PM |
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In article <1180585408.107018.208530@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken as
freedom from religion"
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/050107
dntexschoolprayer.23b6eeb5.html
Legislature: Bill clarifies rights; critics fear campus evangelizing
The House embraced legislation Monday that seeks to clarify the rights
of Texas public school students to offer public prayers at football
games or graduation, hand out religious messages or hold religious
meetings during the school day if they want.
Supporters said the Schoolchildren's Religious Liberties Act, which
passed on a 110-33 vote, would protect districts from lawsuits by
setting guidelines for students' religious expression while protecting
students from being admonished, for example, if they talk about Jesus
in an assignment about Easter.
"Freedom of religion should not be taken as freedom from religion,"
Gov. Rick Perry said. "This was a vote for tolerance of diverse views
in our education system so that students are not admonished for
wishing a soldier overseas a 'Merry Christmas' or for any other
harmless forms of expression."
Cool. Will the school be passing out copies of the Koran or do we need
to buy our own?
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow religion in school |
31 May 2007 10:29:07 PM |
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MooJoo wrote:
Cool. Will the school be passing out copies of the Koran or do we need
to buy our own?
Perhaps those tax dollars would be better spent teaching the
kids to kill chickens for Santa Rosa.
That way they get the dual benefit of getting a meal AND
learning about religion.
And since we need money to do it - we can impose an extra tax on
the churches in the community - since they're the ones who are
calling for this expansion of government spending.
--
"Render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's" - Jesus H. Christ
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
31 May 2007 12:00:04 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken as
freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people to
accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the stake
for those who dissent.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
31 May 2007 12:10:06 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken as
freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people to
accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the stake
for those who dissent.
Do what?
Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of the "CRIMINAL" lack
of justice league that arm themselves in public that kidnap people and steal
from them and practice extortion like they did to me are against liberty and
justice and the Constitution?
Are you paranoid?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
31 May 2007 11:08:06 AM |
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John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken as
freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people to
accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the stake
for those who dissent.
Do what?
Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of the "CRIMINAL" lack
of justice league that arm themselves in public that kidnap people and steal
Drunk again, Wentzky?
Enjoy your stay in prison.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
31 May 2007 12:36:45 AM |
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On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken as
freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people to
accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the stake
for those who dissent.
Do what?
Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of the "CRIMINAL" lack
of justice league that arm themselves in public that kidnap people and steal
from them and practice extortion like they did to me are against liberty and
justice and the Constitution?
Are you paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky. Deal with it.
I'm not gonna cry for a pervert and a recidivist...
When's your trial for assaulting a police officer?
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
31 May 2007 08:48:07 AM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180589805.843254.26570@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken as
freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people to
accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the stake
for those who dissent.
Do what?
Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of the "CRIMINAL"
lack
of justice league that arm themselves in public that kidnap people and
steal
from them and practice extortion like they did to me are against liberty
and
justice and the Constitution?
Are you paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie.
I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
31 May 2007 10:17:57 AM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180589805.843254.26570@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken as
freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people to
accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the stake
for those who dissent.
Do what? Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of the
"CRIMINAL" lack of justice league that arm themselves in public that
kidnap people and steal from them and practice extortion like they did to
me are against liberty and justice and the Constitution? Are you
paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie.
I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
You pled guilty to the indecent exposure charge ten years ago. You're a
convicted criminal. Case closed.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
31 May 2007 07:34:36 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhcptxbru.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180589805.843254.26570@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken
as
freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people
to
accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the
stake
for those who dissent.
Do what? Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of the
"CRIMINAL" lack of justice league that arm themselves in public that
kidnap people and steal from them and practice extortion like they did
to
me are against liberty and justice and the Constitution? Are you
paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie.
I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
You pled guilty
Wrong.
to the indecent exposure charge ten years ago.
PLH is still living very far in the past.
You're a convicted criminal.
I am neither a criminal nor am I convicted.
Check the calendar, dark age ignoramus.
Case closed.
Over your head.
You have no authority over me.
That much is a fact.
Why does it irk you so much?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
31 May 2007 07:49:22 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhcptxbru.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180589805.843254.26570@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken
as
freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people to
accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the
stake for those who dissent.
Do what? Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of the
"CRIMINAL" lack of justice league that arm themselves in public that
kidnap people and steal from them and practice extortion like they did
to me are against liberty and justice and the Constitution? Are you
paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie.
I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
You pled guilty
Wrong.
Take it up with the county court. (Your guilty plea is a public record.)
to the indecent exposure charge ten years ago.
PLH is still living very far in the past.
Not at all, since I posted the sections of South Carolina code that you're
being charged under in your latest fiasco.
You're a convicted criminal.
I am neither a criminal nor am I convicted.
Check the calendar, dark age ignoramus.
You pled guilty, and you did time in jail. You're a convicted criminal.
Case closed.
Over your head. You have no authority over me.
Tell me something I don't know.
That much is a fact.
Why does it irk you so much?
It doesn't irk me at all - because the county court will have authority over
you, now that they've formalized the indictments and charges.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
31 May 2007 11:23:55 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xb4mrcd.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhcptxbru.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180589805.843254.26570@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken
as
freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people
to
accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the
stake for those who dissent.
Do what? Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of
the
"CRIMINAL" lack of justice league that arm themselves in public that
kidnap people and steal from them and practice extortion like they
did
to me are against liberty and justice and the Constitution? Are you
paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie.
I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
You pled guilty
Wrong.
Take it up with the county court. (Your guilty plea is a public record.)
A record that is UNRELIABLE, you IGNORAMUS!
The website itself says that nothing on it is to be relied upon by anyone.
to the indecent exposure charge ten years ago.
PLH is still living very far in the past.
Not at all,
Nah.
You are a god damned hangover from yesteryear.
since I posted the sections of South Carolina code that you're
being charged under in your latest fiasco.
Big *****, you fool.
I am NOT GUILTY of any of the criminal charges you think I am guilty of.
The law itself renders no guilt to me in any of those charges.
You're a convicted criminal.
I am neither a criminal nor am I convicted.
Check the calendar, dark age ignoramus.
You pled guilty, and you did time in jail. You're a convicted criminal.
You're still lying.
Case closed.
Over your head. You have no authority over me.
Tell me something I don't know.
Seems I just did that.
That much is a fact.
Why does it irk you so much?
It doesn't irk me at all
So, why are you so blatantly being such an asssucking pig online to me?
- because the county court will have authority over
you, now that they've formalized the indictments and charges.
The Constitution and the law itself gives them no authority over me in these
matters.
Don't you mean to say that a bunch of disgruntled shitheads and idiots and
criminals are sucking the ***** of a criminal named Giovanni and a Negro
liar who affirmed Giovanni's false warrants?
I was assaulted, beaten, kidnapped, held at ransom by a criminal gang that
is soon to be damned to death if they fail to drop all of the charges they
have against me.
All you people who are so against me, an innocent, law-abiding citizen of
the USA are soon to be damned to death if you fail to honor my rights at
law.
It won't bother me if you die if you go against me.
It won't.
It won't bother me one bit if the government fails to deliver the
restitution to me that the law prescribes be delivered to me.
Their doom will be sealed if I am not exhoneraed of all charges and if I am
not provided the lawful remedies that the law prescribes in these matters.
RoeVWade is damned.
I am alive.
I am NOT GUILTY, and I am telling you that if this criminal charade against
me and my family is not ended that those who resist me will be doomed.
I have no fear of you losers.
I always live in victory over you scumbags who are so devoid of truth.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
01 Jun 2007 12:49:22 AM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xb4mrcd.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhcptxbru.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180589805.843254.26570@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be taken
as freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force people
to accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at the
stake for those who dissent.
Do what? Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of the
"CRIMINAL" lack of justice league that arm themselves in public that
kidnap people and steal from them and practice extortion like they did
to me are against liberty and justice and the Constitution? Are you
paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie.
I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
You pled guilty
Wrong.
Take it up with the county court. (Your guilty plea is a public record.)
A record that is UNRELIABLE, you IGNORAMUS!
Really? Maybe you'd better tell the court clerk that.
The website itself says that nothing on it is to be relied upon by anyone.
Precisely where does it state that?
to the indecent exposure charge ten years ago.
PLH is still living very far in the past.
Not at all,
Nah.
You are a god damned hangover from yesteryear.
You're a whopping 74 months younger than me. (So much for your reading
skills.)
since I posted the sections of South Carolina code that you're
being charged under in your latest fiasco.
Big *****, you fool.
I am NOT GUILTY of any of the criminal charges you think I am guilty of.
The law itself renders no guilt to me in any of those charges.
The court will likely render you guilty in accordance with the law.
You're a convicted criminal.
I am neither a criminal nor am I convicted.
Check the calendar, dark age ignoramus.
You pled guilty, and you did time in jail. You're a convicted criminal.
You're still lying.
It's a permanent part of your record, and anyone can access it to see for
themselves.
Case closed.
Over your head. You have no authority over me.
Tell me something I don't know.
Seems I just did that.
You don't know what *you* supposedly know.
That much is a fact.
Why does it irk you so much?
It doesn't irk me at all
So, why are you so blatantly being such an asssucking pig online to me?
I'm stating my opinions of your charade. Is someone forcing you to read
anything I post?
- because the county court will have authority over
you, now that they've formalized the indictments and charges.
The Constitution and the law itself gives them no authority over me in these
matters.
Be sure and whine that at the judge.
Don't you mean to say that a bunch of disgruntled shitheads and idiots and
criminals are sucking the ***** of a criminal named Giovanni and a Negro
liar who affirmed Giovanni's false warrants?
I was assaulted, beaten, kidnapped, held at ransom by a criminal gang that
is soon to be damned to death if they fail to drop all of the charges they
have against me.
I definitely want you to make _that_ proclamation in court.
All you people who are so against me, an innocent, law-abiding citizen of
the USA are soon to be damned to death if you fail to honor my rights at
law.
You're not going to have very many rights left to lose, at the rate you're
going.
It won't bother me if you die if you go against me.
It won't bother me if you're hauled off to prison for a decade.
It won't.
It won't bother me one bit if the government fails to deliver the
restitution to me that the law prescribes be delivered to me.
I pity the public defender who drew the short straw and got stuck with such a
hopeless case as yours.
Their doom will be sealed if I am not exhoneraed of all charges and if I am
not provided the lawful remedies that the law prescribes in these matters.
Someone will pass that statement along to the Solicitor - and you know, it
could show up as evidence.
RoeVWade is damned.
I am alive.
Enjoy it while you can.
I am NOT GUILTY, and I am telling you that if this criminal charade against
me and my family is not ended that those who resist me will be doomed.
I have no fear of you losers.
I always live in victory over you scumbags who are so devoid of truth.
Just do the rest of your neighbors a favor and take yourself out of society.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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01 Jun 2007 12:15:27 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xb4mrcd.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhcptxbru.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180589805.843254.26570@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be
taken
as freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force
people
to accept your religion, even if it means torture and burning at
the
stake for those who dissent.
Do what? Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of
the
"CRIMINAL" lack of justice league that arm themselves in public
that
kidnap people and steal from them and practice extortion like they
did
to me are against liberty and justice and the Constitution? Are
you
paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie.
I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
You pled guilty
Wrong.
Take it up with the county court. (Your guilty plea is a public
record.)
A record that is UNRELIABLE, you IGNORAMUS!
Really?
Yes. They say so themsleves, in writing.
"Neither the County of Anderson, South Carolina nor any agency, officer,
elected official or employee of the County of Anderson, South Carolina
(collectively known as "the County") warrants the accuracy, reliability or
timeliness of any information on this web site. This publication is provided
"as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied,
including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability,
fitness for a particular purpose or non-infringement. Portions of such
information may be incorrect or not current. Any person or entity who relies
on any information obtained from this web site does so at his or her own
risk. In addition, nothing contained within this web site is an official
record of the County or the elected officials responsible therefore. All
comments, suggestions, ideas, notes, drawings, concepts or other information
disclosed or offered to the County by this site or in response to
solicitations in this site (collectively, the "Comments") shall remain the
property of the County. None of the Comments shall be subject to any
obligation of confidence on the part of the County, and the County shall not
be liable for any use or disclosure of any Comments. Without limitation of
the foregoing, the County shall exclusively own all now known or hereafter
existing rights to the Comments of every kind and nature throughout the
world and shall be entitled to unrestricted use of the Comments for any
purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without compensation to the
provider of the Comments."
Can't you understand those words?
And, that later part of that tells you that anything you submitted to the
county has become their property, and they are not to compensate you
anything for it and that they may use it against you and that they are not
subject to the confidence of the county.
Which also means that they are not entitled to withhold any comments you or
anyone else made to them against me from me.
Maybe you'd better tell the court clerk that.
I will tell them everything that the law allows and I will bind them into
performing as their own words and the law and the Constitution dictate for
them to perform.
I will hold them to their words.
The website itself says that nothing on it is to be relied upon by anyone.
Precisely where does it state that?
Read above.
It is on the website itself.
to the indecent exposure charge ten years ago.
PLH is still living very far in the past.
Not at all,
Nah.
You are a god damned hangover from yesteryear.
You're a whopping 74 months younger than me.
My age is not what makes you a hangover from yesteryear.
(So much for your reading
skills.)
So much for your ignorance.
since I posted the sections of South Carolina code that you're
being charged under in your latest fiasco.
Big *****, you fool.
I am NOT GUILTY of any of the criminal charges you think I am guilty of.
The law itself renders no guilt to me in any of those charges.
The court will likely render you guilty in accordance with the law.
There is no legal method to render me guilty, you idiot.
You're a convicted criminal.
I am neither a criminal nor am I convicted.
Check the calendar, dark age ignoramus.
You pled guilty, and you did time in jail. You're a convicted criminal.
You're still lying.
It's a permanent part of your record, and anyone can access it to see for
themselves.
Those records are unreliable; and, your illicit assumption that things from
the past that were disposed of already are relevant or that anyone is
subject to double jeopardy is unconstitutional.
Case closed.
Over your head. You have no authority over me.
Tell me something I don't know.
Seems I just did that.
You don't know what *you* supposedly know.
*****.
That much is a fact.
Why does it irk you so much?
It doesn't irk me at all
So, why are you so blatantly being such an asssucking pig online to me?
I'm stating my opinions of your charade.
What charade?
Is someone forcing you to read
anything I post?
Is someone forcing you to be the asssucking pig you are online with regard
to me?
Is someone forcing you to interfere with the affairs of the people of
Anderson County, SC?
- because the county court will have authority over
you, now that they've formalized the indictments and charges.
The Constitution and the law itself gives them no authority over me in
these
matters.
Be sure and whine that at the judge.
Be sure and look in a mirror and try to teach yourself everything you try to
tell others.
Come back when you have figured that your illicit rants aren't good advice.
Don't you mean to say that a bunch of disgruntled shitheads and idiots and
criminals are sucking the ***** of a criminal named Giovanni and a Negro
liar who affirmed Giovanni's false warrants?
I was assaulted, beaten, kidnapped, held at ransom by a criminal gang that
is soon to be damned to death if they fail to drop all of the charges they
have against me.
I definitely want you to make _that_ proclamation in court.
Why?
I was kidnapped. I was assaulted from behind, and beaten and kidnapped.
I was held at ransom and falsely charged and stolen from and extortion was
performed against my father.
The charges being held against me are false charges.
All you people who are so against me, an innocent, law-abiding citizen of
the USA are soon to be damned to death if you fail to honor my rights at
law.
You're not going to have very many rights left to lose, at the rate you're
going.
I have all rights at law.
There is no right of law that I do not possess or that I will not posses.
I always have full rights at law.
It won't bother me if you die if you go against me.
It won't bother me if you're hauled off to prison for a decade.
It will, you fool.
It will bother you more than anything has botherd you before if I go to
prison.
It won't.
It won't bother me one bit if the government fails to deliver the
restitution to me that the law prescribes be delivered to me.
To clarify that statement, it won't bother me if a bunch of wicked criminals
who failed to deliver justice to me as the law prescribes die.
I pity the public defender who drew the short straw and got stuck with
such a
hopeless case as yours.
Pity is something I have no legal requirement to have on my enemies, the
unjust.
Their doom will be sealed if I am not exhoneraed of all charges and if I
am
not provided the lawful remedies that the law prescribes in these matters.
Someone will pass that statement along to the Solicitor - and you know, it
could show up as evidence.
What can show up as evidence against you or anyone else who communicates
anything to the solicitor against me are such communications from them.
The people are sick of outside agencies interfering with the affairs of the
people of Anderson, SC.
RoeVWade is damned.
I am alive.
Enjoy it while you can.
I will enjoy every minute of it.
I am NOT GUILTY, and I am telling you that if this criminal charade
against
me and my family is not ended that those who resist me will be doomed.
I have no fear of you losers.
I always live in victory over you scumbags who are so devoid of truth.
Just do the rest of your neighbors a favor and take yourself out of
society.
How about practicing what you preach, you fool.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
01 Jun 2007 04:31:59 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkps4gw7fh.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xb4mrcd.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhcptxbru.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180589805.843254.26570@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be
taken
as freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force
people to accept your religion, even if it means torture and
burning at the stake for those who dissent.
Do what? Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of
the "CRIMINAL" lack of justice league that arm themselves in public
that kidnap people and steal from them and practice extortion like
they did to me are against liberty and justice and the Constitution?
Are you paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie.
I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
You pled guilty
Wrong.
Take it up with the county court. (Your guilty plea is a public
record.)
A record that is UNRELIABLE, you IGNORAMUS!
Really?
Yes. They say so themsleves, in writing.
"Neither the County of Anderson, South Carolina nor any agency, officer,
elected official or employee of the County of Anderson, South Carolina
(collectively known as "the County") warrants the accuracy, reliability or
timeliness of any information on this web site. This publication is provided
"as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied,
including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability,
fitness for a particular purpose or non-infringement. Portions of such
information may be incorrect or not current. Any person or entity who relies
on any information obtained from this web site does so at his or her own
risk. In addition, nothing contained within this web site is an official
record of the County or the elected officials responsible therefore. All
comments, suggestions, ideas, notes, drawings, concepts or other information
disclosed or offered to the County by this site or in response to
solicitations in this site (collectively, the "Comments") shall remain the
property of the County. None of the Comments shall be subject to any
obligation of confidence on the part of the County, and the County shall not
be liable for any use or disclosure of any Comments. Without limitation of
the foregoing, the County shall exclusively own all now known or hereafter
existing rights to the Comments of every kind and nature throughout the
world and shall be entitled to unrestricted use of the Comments for any
purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without compensation to the
provider of the Comments."
No wonder...since that's on the front page of the ACPASS system, which I
bypass on a regular basis with a direct link to the General Sessions public
database (where your criminal record is available for all to see.)
Can't you understand those words?
And, that later part of that tells you that anything you submitted to the
county has become their property, and they are not to compensate you
anything for it and that they may use it against you and that they are not
subject to the confidence of the county.
Which also means that they are not entitled to withhold any comments you or
anyone else made to them against me from me.
Why? They're trying you.
Maybe you'd better tell the court clerk that.
I will tell them everything that the law allows and I will bind them into
performing as their own words and the law and the Constitution dictate for
them to perform. I will hold them to their words.
I'm sure they'll be amused by your delusions of authority over anything.
The website itself says that nothing on it is to be relied upon by anyone.
Precisely where does it state that?
Read above. It is on the website itself.
Idiot. I just pointed out where it appears.
to the indecent exposure charge ten years ago.
PLH is still living very far in the past.
Not at all,
Nah.
You are a god damned hangover from yesteryear.
You're a whopping 74 months younger than me.
My age is not what makes you a hangover from yesteryear.
I guess that's why I spent most of this morning putting up a website I'm
responsible for, after the former host nuked it without notice. (Take a look
at houstonaerosboosterclub.com.)
(So much for your reading skills.)
So much for your ignorance.
I've already explained why I didn't notice that.
since I posted the sections of South Carolina code that you're
being charged under in your latest fiasco.
Big *****, you fool.
I am NOT GUILTY of any of the criminal charges you think I am guilty of.
The law itself renders no guilt to me in any of those charges.
The court will likely render you guilty in accordance with the law.
There is no legal method to render me guilty, you idiot.
Be sure and tell the judge that. You'll get the justice you deserve.
You're a convicted criminal.
I am neither a criminal nor am I convicted.
Check the calendar, dark age ignoramus.
You pled guilty, and you did time in jail. You're a convicted criminal.
You're still lying.
It's a permanent part of your record, and anyone can access it to see for
themselves.
Those records are unreliable; and, your illicit assumption that things from
the past that were disposed of already are relevant or that anyone is
subject to double jeopardy is unconstitutional.
Go ahead and call the clerk of court a liar - that'll really impress the
prosecution.
Case closed.
Over your head. You have no authority over me.
Tell me something I don't know.
Seems I just did that.
You don't know what *you* supposedly know.
*****.
That's your life.
That much is a fact.
Why does it irk you so much?
It doesn't irk me at all
So, why are you so blatantly being such an asssucking pig online to me?
I'm stating my opinions of your charade.
What charade?
The one you've lived in the past decade and a half.
Is someone forcing you to read anything I post?
Is someone forcing you to be the asssucking pig you are online with regard
to me?
Is someone forcing you to interfere with the affairs of the people of
Anderson County, SC?
No, since I'm not interfering with the affairs of any of your neighbors.
- because the county court will have authority over
you, now that they've formalized the indictments and charges.
The Constitution and the law itself gives them no authority over me in
these matters.
Be sure and whine that at the judge.
Be sure and look in a mirror and try to teach yourself everything you try to
tell others.
Come back when you have figured that your illicit rants aren't good advice.
You're the one who will be in a trial. I don't have to be there, but you do.
Don't you mean to say that a bunch of disgruntled shitheads and idiots and
criminals are sucking the ***** of a criminal named Giovanni and a Negro
liar who affirmed Giovanni's false warrants?
I was assaulted, beaten, kidnapped, held at ransom by a criminal gang that
is soon to be damned to death if they fail to drop all of the charges they
have against me.
I definitely want you to make _that_ proclamation in court.
Why? I was kidnapped. I was assaulted from behind, and beaten and kidnapped.
I was held at ransom and falsely charged and stolen from and extortion was
performed against my father. The charges being held against me are false
charges.
Looks like the circus will be coming to Anderson soon, in that case.
All you people who are so against me, an innocent, law-abiding citizen of
the USA are soon to be damned to death if you fail to honor my rights at
law.
You're not going to have very many rights left to lose, at the rate you're
going.
I have all rights at law.
There is no right of law that I do not possess or that I will not posses.
I always have full rights at law.
....except for the ones you've surrendered because of your past conviction.
It won't bother me if you die if you go against me.
It won't bother me if you're hauled off to prison for a decade.
It will, you fool.
It will bother you more than anything has botherd you before if I go to
prison.
It won't bother me in the least. (At least your neighbors will be a bit
safer.)
It won't.
It won't bother me one bit if the government fails to deliver the
restitution to me that the law prescribes be delivered to me.
To clarify that statement, it won't bother me if a bunch of wicked criminals
who failed to deliver justice to me as the law prescribes die.
And if they don't, you'll whine like the 45-year-old baby you are.
I pity the public defender who drew the short straw and got stuck with such
a hopeless case as yours.
Pity is something I have no legal requirement to have on my enemies, the
unjust.
You have no regard for anything outside your delusions.
Their doom will be sealed if I am not exhoneraed of all charges and if I am
not provided the lawful remedies that the law prescribes in these matters.
Someone will pass that statement along to the Solicitor - and you know, it
could show up as evidence.
What can show up as evidence against you or anyone else who communicates
anything to the solicitor against me are such communications from them.
The people are sick of outside agencies interfering with the affairs of the
people of Anderson, SC.
You don't speak for "the people", Convict Wentzky.
RoeVWade is damned.
I am alive.
Enjoy it while you can.
I will enjoy every minute of it.
RvW will still be around long after you've rotted away in prison.
I am NOT GUILTY, and I am telling you that if this criminal charade against
me and my family is not ended that those who resist me will be doomed. I
have no fear of you losers. I always live in victory over you scumbags who
are so devoid of truth.
Just do the rest of your neighbors a favor and take yourself out of
society.
How about practicing what you preach, you fool.
I'm not the one assaulting cops, or driving under the influence. Those are
your problems to try and weasel your way out of...and so far, you're 0-for the
power play.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| Title: Re: House: Allow freedom in school |
01 Jun 2007 08:11:26 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1wgv2wfk.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkps4gw7fh.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xb4mrcd.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhcptxbru.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180589805.843254.26570@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:465e5654$0$14090$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be
taken
as freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force
people to accept your religion, even if it means torture and
burning at the stake for those who dissent.
Do what? Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces
of
the "CRIMINAL" lack of justice league that arm themselves in
public
that kidnap people and steal from them and practice extortion
like
they did to me are against liberty and justice and the
Constitution?
Are you paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie.
I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
You pled guilty
Wrong.
Take it up with the county court. (Your guilty plea is a public
record.)
A record that is UNRELIABLE, you IGNORAMUS!
Really?
Yes. They say so themsleves, in writing.
"Neither the County of Anderson, South Carolina nor any agency, officer,
elected official or employee of the County of Anderson, South Carolina
(collectively known as "the County") warrants the accuracy, reliability or
timeliness of any information on this web site. This publication is
provided
"as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied,
including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability,
fitness for a particular purpose or non-infringement. Portions of such
information may be incorrect or not current. Any person or entity who
relies
on any information obtained from this web site does so at his or her own
risk. In addition, nothing contained within this web site is an official
record of the County or the elected officials responsible therefore. All
comments, suggestions, ideas, notes, drawings, concepts or other
information
disclosed or offered to the County by this site or in response to
solicitations in this site (collectively, the "Comments") shall remain the
property of the County. None of the Comments shall be subject to any
obligation of confidence on the part of the County, and the County shall
not
be liable for any use or disclosure of any Comments. Without limitation of
the foregoing, the County shall exclusively own all now known or hereafter
existing rights to the Comments of every kind and nature throughout the
world and shall be entitled to unrestricted use of the Comments for any
purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without compensation to the
provider of the Comments."
No wonder...since that's on the front page of the ACPASS system, which I
bypass on a regular basis with a direct link to the General Sessions
public
database (where your criminal record is available for all to see.)
The disclaimer page refers to the entire site.
Their credibility is destroyed by their own admission.
Can't you understand those words?
And, that later part of that tells you that anything you submitted to the
county has become their property, and they are not to compensate you
anything for it and that they may use it against you and that your
comments are not
subject to the confidence of the county.
Which also means that they are not entitled to withhold any comments you
or
anyone else made to them against me from me.
Why?
Because that is what the words say.
DUH!
They're trying you.
They have no case.
They admit, in writing, that the information they published online regarding
me is unreliable.
That, in itself, is enough to warrant full dismissal of all charges against
me.
A superior court could easily order them to erase everything on their
website as long as they represent that it is NOT to be relied upon.
Maybe you'd better tell the court clerk that.
I will tell them everything that the law allows and I will bind them into
performing as their own words and the law and the Constitution dictate for
them to perform. I will hold them to their words.
I'm sure they'll be amused by your delusions of authority over anything.
Why would you think they would be amused to be informed that they are who
says the information they publish is NOT reliable?
LOL!
I am sure they will be happy to know that someone as intelligent as me can
help them to correct their many errors.
Government's responsibility is to serve the people, not to act as a cover
for criminal acts by persons in government.
When are you going to realize that?
The website itself says that nothing on it is to be relied upon by
anyone.
Precisely where does it state that?
Read above. It is on the website itself.
Idiot. I just pointed out where it appears.
No credence is to be given to that reference.
The county can not hold anything they have on their website against anyone.
Read the disclaimer, again.
They sunk their ship by publishing that disclaimer which admits to the
people that their publication is NOT truthful.
to the indecent exposure charge ten years ago.
PLH is still living very far in the past.
Not at all,
Nah.
You are a god damned hangover from yesteryear.
You're a whopping 74 months younger than me.
My age is not what makes you a hangover from yesteryear.
I guess that's why I spent most of this morning putting up a website I'm
responsible for, after the former host nuked it without notice.
Why would they nuke a sports oriented website?
Does it have to do with trademark issues?
(Take a look at houstonaerosboosterclub.com.)
Maybe they will work a deal with you if the HAs are purporting that you are
using their logo or tradename without their permission.
I got lucky number 7 when I visited.
If you make no money on it then they coudl consider it free advertising.
As long as you aren't lying about them on there, why should they care?
I know there are people who want every dime that comes in on anything that
has anything to do with their 'baby'.
There are a lot of people in those team organizations, and at today's cost
of living, their payrolls must be kinda large.
Then consider how long a season lasts, and just how many teams does one
group of promoters run to make their salaries?
Personally, all I can see you having to do is pay them a royalty if you
bring in any money from the site operations.
Make sense to you?
Depends on your agreement with them, too.
If they let you use their logo and tradename free of charge that is their
option.
I see it as free advertising for them at this point; then there is the
competition factor.
Do they have their own wesbsite?
And, what if fans like your site better than theirs?
Would that say that your site is better?
I am very much for talent being rewarded appropriately; so, if someone who
isn't posting sports data like the fans like to see it gets irked by your
efforts, that doesn't seem to be a valid reason to shut you down in this
activity.
(So much for your reading skills.)
So much for your ignorance.
I've already explained why I didn't notice that.
Understood.
since I posted the sections of South Carolina code that you're
being charged under in your latest fiasco.
Big *****, you fool.
I am NOT GUILTY of any of the criminal charges you think I am guilty of.
The law itself renders no guilt to me in any of those charges.
The court will likely render you guilty in accordance with the law.
There is no legal method to render me guilty, you idiot.
Be sure and tell the judge that.
Maybe all parties will be informed of that piece of information.
Judge, jury, counsel, prosecution, etc.
You'll get the justice you deserve.
May I realy upon that statement?
Justice is something I have been awaiting to pay me whatI I am owed for a
very long time.
You're a convicted criminal.
I am neither a criminal nor am I convicted.
Check the calendar, dark age ignoramus.
You pled guilty, and you did time in jail. You're a convicted
criminal.
You're still lying.
It's a permanent part of your record, and anyone can access it to see
for
themselves.
Those records are unreliable; and, your illicit assumption that things
from
the past that were disposed of already are relevant or that anyone is
subject to double jeopardy is unconstitutional.
Go ahead and call the clerk of court a liar - that'll really impress the
prosecution.
Calling them a peon that is doing work for criminals is no problem.
I know what happened; and, I will not accept the errors they committed
against me; and, i will not exempt them from their legal liability to me.
There is no immunity in law for what they did to me, contrary to their
erroneous claims.
State control to protect criminals who committed crimes against me is
treason.
I'm stating my opinions of your charade.
What charade?
The one you've lived in the past decade and a half.
What charade?
Is someone forcing you to read anything I post?
Is someone forcing you to be the asssucking pig you are online with regard
to me?
Is someone forcing you to interfere with the affairs of the people of
Anderson County, SC?
No, since I'm not interfering with the affairs of any of your neighbors.
Huh?
You think I don't know any person in the court system here?
- because the county court will have authority over
you, now that they've formalized the indictments and charges.
The Constitution and the law itself gives them no authority over me in
these matters.
Be sure and whine that at the judge.
Be sure and look in a mirror and try to teach yourself everything you try
to
tell others.
Come back when you have figured that your illicit rants aren't good
advice.
You're the one who will be in a trial.
Intimidation failures of yours are adding up to a large number.
I don't have to be there, but you do.
Another statement that shows your ignorance.
Another propagandist failure.
Don't you mean to say that a bunch of disgruntled shitheads and idiots
and
criminals are sucking the ***** of a criminal named Giovanni and a
Negro
liar who affirmed Giovanni's false warrants?
I was assaulted, beaten, kidnapped, held at ransom by a criminal gang
that
is soon to be damned to death if they fail to drop all of the charges
they
have against me.
I definitely want you to make _that_ proclamation in court.
Why? I was kidnapped. I was assaulted from behind, and beaten and
kidnapped.
I was held at ransom and falsely charged and stolen from and extortion was
performed against my father. The charges being held against me are false
charges.
Looks like the circus will be coming to Anderson soon, in that case.
A real circus?
Media circus?
All you people who are so against me, an innocent, law-abiding citizen
of
the USA are soon to be damned to death if you fail to honor my rights at
law.
You're not going to have very many rights left to lose, at the rate
you're
going.
I have all rights at law.
There is no right of law that I do not possess or that I will not posses.
I always have full rights at law.
...except for the ones you've surrendered because of your past conviction.
I surrendered no rights at law.
Your ignorance of statutes of limitations is blatantly obvious.
Your ignorance of Constitutional requirements is blatantly obvious.
Once a sentence is served there is no further guilt associated with it,
whether the sentence was just or unjust.
You seem to think that the government is authorized to violate the rights of
the people.
That is a very bad assumption to make.
It won't bother me if you die if you go against me.
It won't bother me if you're hauled off to prison for a decade.
It will, you fool.
It will bother you more than anything has botherd you before if I go to
prison.
It won't bother me in the least.
I think you will not enjoy it one bit since you communicated to the
solicitor here.
You are documneted as a hostile party in this matter.
(At least your neighbors will be a bit
safer.)
A lie.
My neighbors do not need scumbags such as you lying about their safety.
It won't.
It won't bother me one bit if the government fails to deliver the
restitution to me that the law prescribes be delivered to me.
To clarify that statement, it won't bother me if a bunch of wicked
criminals
who failed to deliver justice to me as the law prescribes die.
And if they don't,
They will incur guilt upon themselves.
you'll whine like the 45-year-old baby you are.
I'm not whining.
They are the crybabies who cant stand the truth.
They are the disgruntled screwups who are afraid of being exposed.
I pity the public defender who drew the short straw and got stuck with
such
a hopeless case as yours.
Pity is something I have no legal requirement to have on my enemies, the
unjust.
You have no regard for anything outside your delusions.
I am not deluded in telling you that I am NOT required to have pity on any
of the persons who committed crimes against me.
Their doom will be sealed if I am not exhoneraed of all charges and if I
am
not provided the lawful remedies that the law prescribes in these
matters.
Someone will pass that statement along to the Solicitor - and you know,
it
could show up as evidence.
What can show up as evidence against you or anyone else who communicates
anything to the solicitor against me are such communications from them.
The people are sick of outside agencies interfering with the affairs of
the
people of Anderson, SC.
You don't speak for "the people", Convict Wentzky.
*****.
I speak for all the people because I speak for the law.
The people of Anderson don't want dogs interfering with their lives.
RoeVWade is damned.
I am alive.
Enjoy it while you can.
I will enjoy every minute of it.
RvW will still be around long after you've rotted away in prison.
RvW is destined to become a relic in history books.
The RvW era is destined to die.
RvW is dead.
I am NOT GUILTY, and I am telling you that if this criminal charade
against
me and my family is not ended that those who resist me will be doomed.
I
have no fear of you losers. I always live in victory over you scumbags
who
are so devoid of truth.
Just do the rest of your neighbors a favor and take yourself out of
society.
How about practicing what you preach, you fool.
I'm not the one assaulting cops,
Ineffective dodge, non-exemplary propagandist.
or driving under the influence.
Bogus charge.
Those are your problems to try and weasel your way out of...and so far,
you're 0-for the
power play.
Power play?
Now you think all that matters is 'who a person knows' rather than 'what a
person knows'?
What a mamby-pamby, ignoramus' statement to make.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
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On 31 mai, 07:10, "John D. Wentzky"
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J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Gov. Perry got that right, "Freedom of religion should not be
taken as freedom from religion"
Because you neonazis believe that you have the duty to force
people to accept your religion, even if it means torture and
burning at the stake for those who dissent.
Do what? Don't you mean the taxpayer-paid state control forces of
the "CRIMINAL" lack of justice league that arm themselves in
public that kidnap people and steal from them and practice
extortion like they did to me are against liberty and justice and
the Constitution? Are you paranoid?
You're a convicted criminal, Wentky.
A lie. I am neither convicted nor am I a criminal.
You pled guilty
Wrong.
Take it up with the county court. (Your guilty plea is a public
record.)
A record that is UNRELIABLE, you IGNORAMUS!
Really?
Yes. They say so themsleves, in writing.
"Neither the County of Anderson, South Carolina nor any agency, officer,
elected official or employee of the County of Anderson, South Carolina
(collectively known as "the County") warrants the accuracy, reliability or
timeliness of any information on this web site. This publication is
provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied,
including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability,
fitness for a particular purpose or non-infringement. Portions of such
information may be incorrect or not current. Any person or entity who
relies on any information obtained from this web site does so at his or her
own risk. In addition, nothing contained within this web site is an
official record of the County or the elected officials responsible
therefore. All comments, suggestions, ideas, notes, drawings, concepts or
other information disclosed or offered to the County by this site or in
response to solicitations in this site (collectively, the "Comments") shall
remain the property of the County. None of the Comments shall be subject to
any obligation of confidence on the part of the County, and the County
shall not be liable for any use or disclosure of any Comments. Without
limitation of the foregoing, the County shall exclusively own all now known
or hereafter existing rights to the Comments of every kind and nature
throughout the world and shall be entitled to unrestricted use of the
Comments for any purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without
compensation to the provider of the Comments."
No wonder...since that's on the front page of the ACPASS system, which I
bypass on a regular basis with a direct link to the General Sessions public
database (where your criminal record is available for all to see.)
The disclaimer page refers to the entire site.
Their credibility is destroyed by their own admission.
Their authority just might put you in prison.
Can't you understand those words? And, that later part of that tells you
that anything you submitted to the county has become their property, and
they are not to compensate you anything for it and that they may use it
against you and that your comments are not subject to the confidence of the
county. Which also means that they are not entitled to withhold any
comments you or anyone else made to them against me from me.
Why?
Because that is what the words say. DUH!
You're already known to not be able to understand what you read.
They're trying you.
They have no case.
They have three indictments against you.
They admit, in writing, that the information they published online regarding
me is unreliable. That, in itself, is enough to warrant full dismissal of
all charges against me. A superior court could easily order them to erase
everything on their website as long as they represent that it is NOT to be
relied upon.
The sun could rise in the west, too - which is more likely than a superior
court overturning your latest flagrant *****-up.
Maybe you'd better tell the court clerk that.
I will tell them everything that the law allows and I will bind them into
performing as their own words and the law and the Constitution dictate for
them to perform. I will hold them to their words.
I'm sure they'll be amused by your delusions of authority over anything.
Why would you think they would be amused to be informed that they are who
says the information they publish is NOT reliable? LOL!
Probably because they can read and understand, while you can't.
I am sure they will be happy to know that someone as intelligent as me can
help them to correct their many errors.
They'll correct one of their errors - by sending you to the big house with
stone walls for a few years.
Government's responsibility is to serve the people, not to act as a cover
for criminal acts by persons in government.
When are you going to realize that?
When are you going to realize that a public defender isn't likely to be able
to plea-bargain you out of a felony?
The website itself says that nothing on it is to be relied upon by
anyone.
Precisely where does it state that?
Read above. It is on the website itself.
Idiot. I just pointed out where it appears.
No credence is to be given to that reference. The county can not hold
anything they have on their website against anyone. Read the disclaimer,
again. They sunk their ship by publishing that disclaimer which admits to
the people that their publication is NOT truthful.
Your reading incomprehension is still your problem, as always.
to the indecent exposure charge ten years ago.
PLH is still living very far in the past.
Not at all,
Nah.
You are a god damned hangover from yesteryear.
You're a whopping 74 months younger than me.
My age is not what makes you a hangover from yesteryear.
I guess that's why I spent most of this morning putting up a website I'm
responsible for, after the former host nuked it without notice.
Why would they nuke a sports oriented website?
Does it have to do with trademark issues?
Not at all - since the owners of the trademark have no complaints about my
publicizing their enterprise.
(Take a look at houstonaerosboosterclub.com.)
Maybe they will work a deal with you if the HAs are purporting that you are
using their logo or tradename without their permission.
Maybe they've only been aware of my use of their logo since I first put my
site up ten years ago. (I've been a season-ticket holder since 1995-96.)
I got lucky number 7 when I visited.
I only put the counter up on it this morning.
If you make no money on it then they coudl consider it free advertising.
As long as you aren't lying about them on there, why should they care?
I know there are people who want every dime that comes in on anything that
has anything to do with their 'baby'.
This is a minor-league team I'm helping promote - even if they're only one
step below the NHL clubs.
There are a lot of people in those team organizations, and at today's cost
of living, their payrolls must be kinda large.
Then consider how long a season lasts, and just how many teams does one
group of promoters run to make their salaries?
Personally, all I can see you having to do is pay them a royalty if you
bring in any money from the site operations.
You can't even see that much, since my own pages and the HABC page is free.
Make sense to you?
Depends on your agreement with them, too.
If they let you use their logo and tradename free of charge that is their
option.
I see it as free advertising for them at this point; then there is the
competition factor.
Do they have their own wesbsite?
Of course. (aeros.com is where you can see it.)
And, what if fans like your site better than theirs?
Would that say that your site is better?
My site isn't corporate. I'm just a dedicated fan who'd like to see more
interest in the sport in this state. (After all, we'll have two more pro
teams in state in 2007-08 than all of Canada.)
I am very much for talent being rewarded appropriately; so, if someone who
isn't posting sports data like the fans like to see it gets irked by your
efforts, that doesn't seem to be a valid reason to shut you down in this
activity.
You're not going to shut down anything but what little is left of your
credibility, if the court rules as I think they will.
(So much for your reading skills.)
So much for your ignorance.
I've already explained why I didn't notice that.
Understood.
since I posted the sections of South Carolina code that you're
being charged under in your latest fiasco.
Big *****, you fool.
I am NOT GUILTY of any of the criminal charges you think I am guilty of.
The law itself renders no guilt to me in any of those charges.
The court will likely render you guilty in accordance with the law.
There is no legal method to render me guilty, you idiot.
Be sure and tell the judge that.
Maybe all parties will be informed of that piece of information.
Judge, jury, counsel, prosecution, etc.
Enjoy cooling off in jail for that contempt of court.
You'll get the justice you deserve.
May I realy upon that statement?
Justice is something I have been awaiting to pay me whatI I am owed for a
very long time.
You're not going to like getting what you deserve.
You're a convicted criminal.
I am neither a criminal nor am I convicted.
Check the calendar, dark age ignoramus.
You pled guilty, and you did time in jail. You're a convicted
criminal.
You're still lying.
It's a permanent part of your record, and anyone can access it to see for
themselves.
Those records are unreliable; and, your illicit assumption that things from
the past that were disposed of already are relevant or that anyone is
subject to double jeopardy is unconstitutional.
Go ahead and call the clerk of court a liar - that'll really impress the
prosecution.
Calling them a peon that is doing work for criminals is no problem.
Putting you in jail for contempt of court will be a problem for you.
I know what happened; and, I will not accept the errors they committed
against me; and, i will not exempt them from their legal liability to me.
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