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"Maaxx" |
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06 Feb 2005 11:02:33 AM |
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How Dare You Claim Bush Isn't As Evil As Hitler! |
It started out simply enough, with someone named Dark trying to drum into
the nearly impenetrable skulls of the denizens of democraticunderground.com
that Bush, however much they dislike him, is not Hitler. Here's a small
sample from Dark's post...
"...But Bush is NOT as bad as Hitler. These comparisons do NOTHING to
help our cause. It didn't help when MoveOn.org did it, and it's not
helping now. It drives away moderates, and does NOT energize our base.
In short: it hurts us.
Bush has NOT rounded up people into camps. He has NOT turned America
into a police state.
In Hitler's Germany, if you disagreed with him, you were sent to a
camp. You didn't come back.
...When was the last time you ever heard of an American Krystalnaucht?
Or perhaps you've heard of gays' and blacks' businesses being
nationalized and them being forced into ghettos? Or maybe there are
people who have been funneled into forced labor camps who you know?
...Let me repeat this: BUSH IS NOT HITLER. HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE
HITLER. HE DOES NOT WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HITLER OR HIS
AGENDA."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3055069
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This of course is not news to people who...well, aren't insane. But of
course, we're talking about a large group of left-wingers here who
represent the future of the Democratic Party (or what's left of it
anyway), so trying to claim that Bush is evil, but not quite as evil as
Hitler, is a controversial position. Read on and you'll see what I mean...
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realisticphish: "hitler started out small. shrub has only been in power
4 years. it took hitler a while to escalate"
goddess40: "You're assuming that Bush is running things he's a figure
head just like Reagan was. The power behind the throne is what is
important."
electropop: "There's an important difference between Bush and Hitler.
Hitler won an election. But otherwise, the similarities are amazing.
Bush _has_ rounded people up into death camps, and they have
disappeared perhaps forever. Have you forgotten Guantanamo and Abu
Graib?
Bush presents a multiracial facade, but on the ground, he actively
promotes racism. Twice he has had his brother Jeb purge thousands of
legitimate voters from the roles, based on database criteria which
correlate to, or directly reveal, race. In Ohio his minions
disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of voters on racial lines, by
targeting specific neighborhoods, for example.
Bush is murdering and torturing hundreds of thousands of Iraqui men
women and children, most of whom have done nothing more egregious than
get in the way of a bomb or a bullet. He is not up to 6 million yet,
but clearly he has no more compassion for Arabs than Hitler had for
Jews.
Just yesterday, Bush's Republinazis proudly and unanimously endorsed
torture, be elevating Bush's Mengele (Gonzales) to high office.
Bush has not yet caught up to Hitler's numbers, but he is "working
hard" to do so."
aquart: "Whenever I'm forced to think of George. I imagine him hanging
upside down just like those last photos of Mussolini. He looks
wonderful that way."
mopaul: "Hitler didn't have the nuclear bomb, give bush a little more
time. f*ck it, bush is just f*cking like hitler."
IMModerate: "Me too. Give him time. For all we know history books of
the future may say something like, "Hitler was bad, but he was no
Bush." He's still developing."
TNOE: "Hitler wasn't HITLER until he killed over 6 Million People and
who knows how history will report. Bush may not actually be BUSH until
another 3-4 years pass. But the similiarities are striking enough.
Hitler has his Reichtag
Bush had his 9/11
Hitler immediately enacted his Enabling Powers
Bush immediately enacted the Patriot Act
The only mild differences so far is that Hitler did not have the
corporations in his back pocket - Bush does - as well as the media. The
news now is nothing more than entertainment and propoganda
Frankly - I don't really care about the moderates - by the time they
and the Republicans get their eyes opened - it will all be in full
swing - a bit too late. Just because YOU don't recognize or see the
similarities doesn't mean that they aren't there and those of us who
have our eyes opened and studied history know better. There are those
that see and there are those that refuse to see and there are those
that are in denial and don't want to see. It doesn't change the
similarities though. It may be that Bush will wind up with a reputation
far worse than Hitler.
If the truth is ever revealed that Bush et al killed 3,000 of their own
citizens on 9/11 to accomplish their military and monetary desires, he
will be known as far worse than Hitler."
gypsy11: "Bush not like Hitler? And I'm the easter bunny. So many posts
on this tread have summed up my thoughts much more eloquently than I
could have done. The only difference between the two is time, and a
mustache."
PassingFair: "Disagree totally...I think the Hitler thing is a GREAT
meme for us. AND I think that comparing * supporters to mindless,
self-important Nazis is the motif we can propagate.
They ARE like uninformed Germans circa 1939. Look at their propagandist
beliefs and little yellow ribbons. Look at their contempt for the
world. Until we call them out for the uninformed drones that they are,
they will not seek out the facts.
They are enabling an illegal, immoral and imperialist war, bent on
controlling the flow of oil for the * cartels own enrichment.
F*** the current master race Christians! (and I DON'T mean TRUE
compassionate, Christ-like ones, I mean the controlling, theocratic
fundies and RC's that voted for *)."
Dangerman: "Think again, Bush IS Hitler! He has the Goebbels-like Fox
News Network, the Arabs (yes, this includes even Saddam Hussein
himself, like it or not) are the new Jews, free speech is almost dead
and nationalism is just as high as it was in Germany in the 30's.
GET REAL! If we do not impeach this S*B next year, he WILL become
Hitler!"
leesa: "PEOPLE: Hitler started the same way by invading Poland, who was
doing nothing to it. Bush IS actively targeting and murdering Iraqi
civilians. He is the same....will we let him go as far? Will we let him
start rounding up more Muslims, then gays, then Jews, then liberals and
professors???
It's happening already man, WAKE UP! They are using Hitler's old play
book."
Octafish: "Bush invaded a sovereign nation with whom we were at PEACE.
Just like Hitler. Who's his daddy? Hitler's henchman. Here's PROOF BUSH
41 he was in Dallas the day JFK was killed: It's the FBI memo in which
he reports "hearsay" that someone he vaguely knew wanted to kill the
President. George Herbert Walker Bush also told the FBI he's heading
for a Dallas hotel. Gee. Why didn't he remember where he was when
people ask him where he was when JFK was assassinated? Even more
important: Why didn't he rat out the guy BEFORE the assassination?
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| User: "Z" |
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| Title: Re: How Dare You Claim Bush Isn't As Evil As Hitler! |
06 Feb 2005 01:47:22 PM |
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Maaxx wrote:
It started out simply enough, with someone named Dark trying to drum into
the nearly impenetrable skulls of the denizens of democraticunderground.com
that Bush, however much they dislike him, is not Hitler. Here's a small
sample from Dark's post...
"...But Bush is NOT as bad as Hitler. These comparisons do NOTHING to
help our cause. It didn't help when MoveOn.org did it, and it's not
helping now. It drives away moderates, and does NOT energize our base.
In short: it hurts us.
Bush has NOT rounded up people into camps. He has NOT turned America
into a police state.
In Hitler's Germany, if you disagreed with him, you were sent to a
camp. You didn't come back.
...When was the last time you ever heard of an American Krystalnaucht?
Or perhaps you've heard of gays' and blacks' businesses being
nationalized and them being forced into ghettos? Or maybe there are
people who have been funneled into forced labor camps who you know?
...Let me repeat this: BUSH IS NOT HITLER. HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE
HITLER. HE DOES NOT WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HITLER OR HIS
AGENDA."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3055069
-----
This of course is not news to people who...well, aren't insane. But of
course, we're talking about a large group of left-wingers here who
represent the future of the Democratic Party (or what's left of it
anyway), so trying to claim that Bush is evil, but not quite as evil as
Hitler, is a controversial position. Read on and you'll see what I mean...
-----
Thank you, Maxx, for a refreshingly candid and honest (and sane) look at
some of the lunatics that infest the blogosphere.
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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| Title: Re: How Dare You Claim Bush Isn't As Evil As Hitler! |
06 Feb 2005 02:31:24 PM |
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Z <Z@no.spam> wrote in news:6zuNd.10034$PR.2911@fe03.lga:
Maaxx wrote:
It started out simply enough, with someone named Dark trying to drum
into the nearly impenetrable skulls of the denizens of
democraticunderground.com that Bush, however much they dislike him, is
not Hitler. Here's a small sample from Dark's post...
"...But Bush is NOT as bad as Hitler. These comparisons do NOTHING
to help our cause. It didn't help when MoveOn.org did it, and it's
not helping now. It drives away moderates, and does NOT energize our
base. In short: it hurts us.
Bush has NOT rounded up people into camps. He has NOT turned America
into a police state.
In Hitler's Germany, if you disagreed with him, you were sent to a
camp. You didn't come back.
...When was the last time you ever heard of an American
Krystalnaucht? Or perhaps you've heard of gays' and blacks'
businesses being nationalized and them being forced into ghettos? Or
maybe there are people who have been funneled into forced labor
camps who you know?
...Let me repeat this: BUSH IS NOT HITLER. HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE
HITLER. HE DOES NOT WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HITLER OR HIS
AGENDA."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3055069
-----
This of course is not news to people who...well, aren't insane. But of
course, we're talking about a large group of left-wingers here who
represent the future of the Democratic Party (or what's left of it
anyway), so trying to claim that Bush is evil, but not quite as evil as
Hitler, is a controversial position. Read on and you'll see what I
mean... -----
Thank you, Maxx, for a refreshingly candid and honest (and sane) look at
some of the lunatics that infest the blogosphere.
Democratic Underground isn't a blog.
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| User: "Ominous" |
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| Title: Re: How Dare You Claim Bush Isn't As Evil As Hitler! |
06 Feb 2005 11:38:56 AM |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:02:33 +0100, Maaxx wrote:
How dare I? HOW DARE I? Bush hasn't even gotten the trains to run on time.
And all that wasted money in the desert...who cares if we need the oil.
Run solar, ***** it. And even thinking about fixing that hole in the
sky (hubble), Bah... What's wrong with you people? Why didn't you elect
that straight shootin' self startin' fella from Mass? Everybody would have
above average incomes, by now. Gawd, you missed that boat. What a bunch of
loosers. You deserve what you get.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: How Dare You Claim Bush Isn't As Evil As Hitler! |
06 Feb 2005 06:22:05 PM |
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Ominous <don't@none.org> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:02:33 +0100, Maaxx wrote:
How dare I? HOW DARE I? Bush hasn't even gotten the trains to run on time.
<heh> This fascist regime is planning on stopping Amtrak, no less.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: How Dare You Claim Bush Isn't As Evil As Hitler! |
06 Feb 2005 01:23:26 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:38:56 -0500, Ominous <don't@none.org> wrote:
How dare I? HOW DARE I? Bush hasn't even gotten the trains to run on time.
And all that wasted money in the desert...who cares if we need the oil.
Run solar, ***** it. And even thinking about fixing that hole in the
sky (hubble), Bah... What's wrong with you people? Why didn't you elect
that straight shootin' self startin' fella from Mass? Everybody would have
above average incomes, by now. Gawd, you missed that boat. What a bunch of
loosers. You deserve what you get.
Are you so foolish to actually think kerry wouldn't have meant jumping form the
frying pan into the fire????????
President George Bush - a great president.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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| Title: Re: How Dare You Claim Bush Isn't As Evil As Hitler! |
06 Feb 2005 04:12:30 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ujrc01ds8o8vb86clkujupokgb885jeohd@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:38:56 -0500, Ominous <don't@none.org> wrote:
How dare I? HOW DARE I? Bush hasn't even gotten the trains to run on time.
And all that wasted money in the desert...who cares if we need the oil.
Run solar, ***** it. And even thinking about fixing that hole in the
sky (hubble), Bah... What's wrong with you people? Why didn't you elect
that straight shootin' self startin' fella from Mass? Everybody would have
above average incomes, by now. Gawd, you missed that boat. What a bunch of
loosers. You deserve what you get.
Are you so foolish to actually think kerry wouldn't have meant jumping
form the
frying pan into the fire????????
Definitely not.
President George Bush - a great president.
You just admitted he put us in a frying pan, doofus.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: How Dare You Claim Bush Isn't As Evil As Hitler! |
06 Feb 2005 04:18:05 PM |
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In article <1NGdnTcqWOeRCJvfRVn-og@giganews.com>, Mark Stahl
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
President George Bush - a great president.
I suspect he was joking.
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| User: "duke" |
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07 Feb 2005 04:49:52 AM |
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:12:30 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ujrc01ds8o8vb86clkujupokgb885jeohd@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:38:56 -0500, Ominous <don't@none.org> wrote:
How dare I? HOW DARE I? Bush hasn't even gotten the trains to run on time.
And all that wasted money in the desert...who cares if we need the oil.
Run solar, ***** it. And even thinking about fixing that hole in the
sky (hubble), Bah... What's wrong with you people? Why didn't you elect
that straight shootin' self startin' fella from Mass? Everybody would have
above average incomes, by now. Gawd, you missed that boat. What a bunch of
loosers. You deserve what you get.
Are you so foolish to actually think kerry wouldn't have meant jumping
form the
frying pan into the fire????????
Definitely not.
President George Bush - a great president.
You just admitted he put us in a frying pan, doofus.
He didn't.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: How Dare You Claim Bush Isn't As Evil As Hitler! |
07 Feb 2005 05:01:17 AM |
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TV's duke wrote:
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 17:12:30 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ujrc01ds8o8vb86clkujupokgb885jeohd@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:38:56 -0500, Ominous <don't@none.org> wrote:
How dare I? HOW DARE I? Bush hasn't even gotten the trains to run on
time.
And all that wasted money in the desert...who cares if we need the oil.
Run solar, ***** it. And even thinking about fixing that hole in the
sky (hubble), Bah... What's wrong with you people? Why didn't you
elect
that straight shootin' self startin' fella from Mass? Everybody would
have
above average incomes, by now. Gawd, you missed that boat. What a bunch
of
loosers. You deserve what you get.
Are you so foolish to actually think kerry wouldn't have meant jumping
form the
frying pan into the fire????????
Definitely not.
President George Bush - a great president.
You just admitted he put us in a frying pan, doofus.
He didn't.
Nope, he went straight for the fire.
--
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Meatwad
Get off your fuckin' cross. We need the fuckin' space to nail the next fool
martyr - Tool, "Eulogy"
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