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":::vera:::" |
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04 May 2004 07:25:39 PM |
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How great Thou art |
I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/How%20great%20Thou%20art.mp3
::: vera :::
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Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
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05 May 2004 12:50:58 AM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
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I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
[==========================
Why don't you stop singing and do something USEFUL with your life like adopt
a few of the thousands of unwanted kids out there living in foster care.
Baby sit for a teen mom so she can go out for a few hours.....
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FP.....
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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07 May 2004 04:17:46 PM |
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"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:GbqdnZbfOsFVHQXdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79ca5$19jsn$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
[==========================
Why don't you stop singing and do something USEFUL with your life like adopt
a few of the thousands of unwanted kids out there living in foster care.
I would at once... if I had the chance.
Baby sit for a teen mom so she can go out for a few hours.....
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well, which would be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own children.
--
FP.....
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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07 May 2004 08:43:21 PM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:2g2co0F3om6cU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:GbqdnZbfOsFVHQXdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79ca5$19jsn$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
[==========================
Why don't you stop singing and do something USEFUL with your life like
adopt
a few of the thousands of unwanted kids out there living in foster care.
I would at once... if I had the chance.
$$ Good. Seems no one has the chance...... or so they claim.
Baby sit for a teen mom so she can go out for a few hours.....
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well,
$$ I did my share when I was young. And I'm still a pro-choicer.
which would be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own
children.
$$ Kill their own children?
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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11 May 2004 09:58:50 AM |
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"Flower Power" <Petunias@spamless.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:s9CdnW73spLUpgHdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:2g2co0F3om6cU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:GbqdnZbfOsFVHQXdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79ca5$19jsn$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
[==========================
Why don't you stop singing and do something USEFUL with your life like
adopt
a few of the thousands of unwanted kids out there living in foster care.
I would at once... if I had the chance.
$$ Good. Seems no one has the chance...... or so they claim.
I am raising a child alone for about 11 years now...
Baby sit for a teen mom so she can go out for a few hours.....
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well,
$$ I did my share when I was young. And I'm still a pro-choicer.
which would be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own
children.
$$ Kill their own children?
YES!
That is what it is.
Peace,
::: vera :::
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near...
Isaiah 55:6
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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12 May 2004 01:58:12 AM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:2gc8caF14tqcU24@uni-berlin.de...
"Flower Power" <Petunias@spamless.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:s9CdnW73spLUpgHdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net...
$$ Good. Seems no one has the chance...... or so they claim.
I am raising a child alone for about 11 years now...
## Why don't you get married?
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you
why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well,
$$ I did my share when I was young. And I'm still a pro-choicer.
which would be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own
children.
$$ Kill their own children?
YES!
## What children? Who do I TELL or advise to kill their children? Do you
know what you're talking about?
That is what it is.
## That is what what is????
Peace,
::: vera :::
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is
near...
Isaiah 55:6
## Seek a lord for what???
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BTW,.... I'm PRO-CHOICE! :-)
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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08 May 2004 01:25:02 PM |
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:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:GbqdnZbfOsFVHQXdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79ca5$19jsn$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
[==========================
Why don't you stop singing and do something USEFUL with your life like adopt
a few of the thousands of unwanted kids out there living in foster care.
I would at once... if I had the chance.
Baby sit for a teen mom so she can go out for a few hours.....
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well, which would be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own children.
Lying about people is a sin.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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11 May 2004 09:59:39 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:c7j8lt$9ki$1@bolt.sonic.net...
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:GbqdnZbfOsFVHQXdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79ca5$19jsn$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
[==========================
Why don't you stop singing and do something USEFUL with your life like adopt
a few of the thousands of unwanted kids out there living in foster care.
I would at once... if I had the chance.
Baby sit for a teen mom so she can go out for a few hours.....
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well, which would be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own children.
Lying about people is a sin.
Yes, so stop it please. You tell them they would not kill their children...
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
::: vera :::
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near...
Isaiah 55:6
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art who tells man to bash infants on stones |
12 May 2004 02:24:04 AM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:c7j8lt$9ki$1@bolt.sonic.net...
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:GbqdnZbfOsFVHQXdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79ca5$19jsn$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
[==========================
Why don't you stop singing and do something USEFUL with your life
like adopt
a few of the thousands of unwanted kids out there living in foster
care.
I would at once... if I had the chance.
Baby sit for a teen mom so she can go out for a few hours.....
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well, which would
be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own
children.
Lying about people is a sin.
Yes, so stop it please. You tell them they would not kill their
children...
=========================
You mean there are people out there in the streets stopping women with
children, and telling them to kill the children? You got to be kidding
me!!!! Not that a lot of women aren't killing infants, toddlers and older
unwanted children..... but none claimed someone TOLD them to do it.
--
BTW,.... I'm PRO-CHOICE! :-)
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~{@
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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13 May 2004 12:40:45 AM |
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:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:c7j8lt$9ki$1@bolt.sonic.net...
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well, which would be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own children.
Lying about people is a sin.
Yes, so stop it please.
You only compound your sin.
Unless you ask for forgiveness you will not be accepted into heaven.
Repent before it is too late.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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08 May 2004 04:42:05 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c7j8lt$9ki$1@bolt.sonic.net...
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:GbqdnZbfOsFVHQXdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79ca5$19jsn$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
[==========================
Why don't you stop singing and do something USEFUL with your life like
adopt
a few of the thousands of unwanted kids out there living in foster
care.
I would at once... if I had the chance.
Baby sit for a teen mom so she can go out for a few hours.....
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well, which would
be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own
children.
Lying about people is a sin.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
===========================
Of course :::vera::: lies. I haven't seen one post here telling anyone to
KILL their children. Maybe she's hallucinating.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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| User: "osprey" |
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08 May 2004 11:57:42 PM |
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"Flower Power" <Liberation@spamless.net> wrote in message news:<Pe-dnbEBcaquyQDdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net>...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c7j8lt$9ki$1@bolt.sonic.net...
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:GbqdnZbfOsFVHQXdRVn-vg@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79ca5$19jsn$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
I have sung this song for my dear Sister Joy:
[==========================
Why don't you stop singing and do something USEFUL with your life like
adopt
a few of the thousands of unwanted kids out there living in foster
care.
I would at once... if I had the chance.
Baby sit for a teen mom so she can go out for a few hours.....
Why not? I am a single mum myself, however... Yes, I kindly ask you why
people do not have more such ideas? You could help as well, which would
be much
better than wasting your time here advising others to kill their own
children.
Lying about people is a sin.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
===========================
Of course :::vera::: lies. I haven't seen one post here telling anyone to
KILL their children. Maybe she's hallucinating.
Just like you and Ray lie.
I haven't seen one post here telling anyone to punish women, enslave
women, force or coerce women, or having to support unwanted children.
Maybe you and Ray hallucinate.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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09 May 2004 01:52:54 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Liberation@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:<Pe-dnbEBcaquyQDdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net>...
Of course :::vera::: lies. I haven't seen one post here telling anyone
to
KILL their children. Maybe she's hallucinating.
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Just like you and Ray lie.
I haven't seen one post here telling anyone to punish women, enslave
women, force or coerce women, or having to support unwanted children.
Maybe you and Ray hallucinate.
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It's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child? Why don't you
make yourself clear then. If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers. Nor do any women who
do NOT want the child.... it is punishment to take their CHOICE away. Do
you actually believe they're HAPPY and that the child prospers under these
conditions? YES or NO?
I'm sure you'll wheedle your way out of a straight answer......
--
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~><> ><>
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| User: "osprey" |
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09 May 2004 05:31:43 AM |
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"Flower Power" <LiberatedKoi@spamless.net> wrote in message news:<N-CdnXqXXobXSADdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net>...
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8912d58d.0405082057.3c865a70@posting.google.com...
"Flower Power" <Liberation@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:<Pe-dnbEBcaquyQDdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net>...
Of course :::vera::: lies. I haven't seen one post here telling anyone
to
KILL their children. Maybe she's hallucinating.
==============================
Just like you and Ray lie.
I haven't seen one post here telling anyone to punish women, enslave
women, force or coerce women, or having to support unwanted children.
Maybe you and Ray hallucinate.
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It's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child? Why don't you
make yourself clear then.
I have made myself very clear, several times. You chose to not want to
read my words. You chose to jump to conclusions and go on the attack.
If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers.
The problem is, they shouldn't be in the position to become mothers.
And as long as we are ignoring the problem, you will continue to see
more become mothers.
Nor do any women who
do NOT want the child.... it is punishment to take their CHOICE away. Do
you actually believe they're HAPPY and that the child prospers under these
conditions? YES or NO?
I'm sure you'll wheedle your way out of a straight answer......
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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09 May 2004 08:51:17 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <LiberatedKoi@spamless.net> wrote in message
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It's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child? Why don't
you
make yourself clear then.
I have made myself very clear, several times. You chose to not want to
read my words. You chose to jump to conclusions and go on the attack.
## Tell us how it's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into
unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child?
If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers.
The problem is, they shouldn't be in the position to become mothers.
## Once she's pregnant it too late, so tell us how it's not PUNISHING a 14
year old girl to force her into unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child?
And as long as we are ignoring the problem, you will continue to see
more become mothers.
## No one is ignoring the problem. The fundies teach their kids abstinence
which the kids ignore - what else can they do? Lock all the girls in their
homes until they're 21 years old?
Nor do any women who
do NOT want the child.... it is punishment to take their CHOICE away.
Do
you actually believe they're HAPPY and that the child prospers under
these
conditions? YES or NO?
I'm sure you'll wheedle your way out of a straight answer......
## Yep,... you have NO ANSWER!
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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| User: "Osprey" |
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09 May 2004 09:03:50 PM |
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"Flower Power" <Liberated-women@spamless.net> wrote in message
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8912d58d.0405090231.7189443d@posting.google.com...
"Flower Power" <LiberatedKoi@spamless.net> wrote in message
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It's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into unwanted
mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child? Why don't
you
make yourself clear then.
I have made myself very clear, several times. You chose to not want to
read my words. You chose to jump to conclusions and go on the attack.
## Tell us how it's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into
unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child?
I am not responsible for her irresponsible parents and how they neglected
her in raising her.
It is unfortunate for her.
If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers.
The problem is, they shouldn't be in the position to become mothers.
## Once she's pregnant it too late, so tell us how it's not PUNISHING a
14
year old girl to force her into unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child?
Who said the child had to be unwanted? Who made that choice to not want the
child?
Answer: She made that choice
It is a shame her parents didn't care enough about her.
And as long as we are ignoring the problem, you will continue to see
more become mothers.
## No one is ignoring the problem. The fundies teach their kids abstinence
which the kids ignore - what else can they do? Lock all the girls in
their
homes until they're 21 years old?
Not interested in your bigotry.
Nor do any women who
do NOT want the child.... it is punishment to take their CHOICE away.
Do
you actually believe they're HAPPY and that the child prospers under
these
conditions? YES or NO?
I'm sure you'll wheedle your way out of a straight answer......
## Yep,... you have NO ANSWER!
Are you pro-abortion?
I ignore about 90% of your post because most of them are based upon
ignorance, bigotry, hatred,
DEFINETELY not knowing what you are talking about in many of the cases,
personal attacks and so forth.
Very rarely are you on topic or able to discuss or focus on the issue.
I know women who have children when they were teenagers.
I also know these women love their children and don't need an excuse to love
them. They found a way to make it.
It takes courage and commitment, basic qualities you lack.
I remember many years ago before I gradated, one of my best friends who was
a teen mother. She had a child at age 16.
Today that same child, her daughter, has graduated high school and gone on
to be successful.
She didn't give up, she accepted responsiblity, she also finished school
herself. She didn't quit.
She didn't need material things in life to be happy either. For some
reason you think that happiness can be bought. Maybe that is how it is with
you, I really don't know nor care enough about you to want to know.
I do know that people can make it, and I do know people that have made it.
Those women, I respect and admire because they had the guts to find a way
and not quit.
Women like you, I totally disrespect and would be ashamed to even be in the
same company as you...for it is women like you that would quit and look for
the easiest way out.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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10 May 2004 12:19:09 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Liberated-women@spamless.net> wrote in message
## Tell us how it's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into
unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child?
I am not responsible for her irresponsible parents and how they neglected
her in raising her.
It is unfortunate for her.
## Don't judge her parents by yourself and your wife. Unless you have a
gyno' inspect your daughter on a regular basis you have no idea if she
sleeping around.
And you're not responsible nor do you have the right to any say in a woman's
decision to KEEP or END their pregnancy either.
Are you pro-abortion?
## I'm pro-CHOICE, remember? :-)
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art |
10 May 2004 08:11:14 AM |
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"Flower Power" <Liberatedlady@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Liberated-women@spamless.net> wrote in message
## Tell us how it's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into
unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child?
I am not responsible for her irresponsible parents and how they
neglected
her in raising her.
It is unfortunate for her.
## Don't judge her parents by yourself and your wife.
Oh come on, if you are going to be a jackass and ignorant..make it
worthwhile already.
Your rhetoric is getting boring
snipping rest of the ***** and the cowardly answer until you can be more
original
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art |
11 May 2004 01:44:51 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Liberatedlady@nospam.net> wrote in message
## Don't judge her parents by yourself and your wife.
=========================================
Oh come on, if you are going to be a jackass and ignorant..make it
worthwhile already.
Your rhetoric is getting boring
** So is your rhetoric, misdirection's and constant evasion of questions
asked.
Now then,....
I see you have no answer as to how to stop teens from having sex.....
meanwhile your daughter may be having more sex than anyone on this NG, and
you would never know, unless she got pregnant. You better keep your fingers
crossed because you have no more clue than any other bible thumper on how to
prevent unwanted pregnancies in teens.
--
Flower Power........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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10 May 2004 12:15:59 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Liberated-women@spamless.net> wrote in message
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <LiberatedKoi@spamless.net> wrote in message
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It's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into unwanted
mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child? Why
don't
you
make yourself clear then.
I have made myself very clear, several times. You chose to not want to
read my words. You chose to jump to conclusions and go on the attack.
## Tell us how it's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into
unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child?
I am not responsible for her irresponsible parents and how they neglected
her in raising her.
It is unfortunate for her.
If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers.
The problem is, they shouldn't be in the position to become mothers.
## Once she's pregnant it too late, so tell us how it's not PUNISHING a
14
year old girl to force her into unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child?
Who said the child had to be unwanted? Who made that choice to not want
the
child?
Answer: She made that choice
It is a shame her parents didn't care enough about her.
And as long as we are ignoring the problem, you will continue to see
more become mothers.
## No one is ignoring the problem. The fundies teach their kids
abstinence
which the kids ignore - what else can they do? Lock all the girls in
their
homes until they're 21 years old?
Not interested in your bigotry.
Nor do any women who
do NOT want the child.... it is punishment to take their CHOICE
away.
Do
you actually believe they're HAPPY and that the child prospers under
these
conditions? YES or NO?
I'm sure you'll wheedle your way out of a straight answer......
## Yep,... you have NO ANSWER!
Are you pro-abortion?
I ignore about 90% of your post because most of them are based upon
ignorance, bigotry, hatred,
DEFINETELY not knowing what you are talking about in many of the cases,
personal attacks and so forth.
Very rarely are you on topic or able to discuss or focus on the issue.
I know women who have children when they were teenagers.
I also know these women love their children and don't need an excuse to
love
them. They found a way to make it.
It takes courage and commitment, basic qualities you lack.
I remember many years ago before I gradated, one of my best friends who
was
a teen mother. She had a child at age 16.
Today that same child, her daughter, has graduated high school and gone on
to be successful.
She didn't give up, she accepted responsiblity, she also finished school
herself. She didn't quit.
She didn't need material things in life to be happy either. For some
reason you think that happiness can be bought. Maybe that is how it is
with
you, I really don't know nor care enough about you to want to know.
I do know that people can make it, and I do know people that have made it.
Those women, I respect and admire because they had the guts to find a way
and not quit.
Women like you, I totally disrespect and would be ashamed to even be in
the
same company as you...for it is women like you that would quit and look
for
the easiest way out.
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| User: "Alan" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art |
10 May 2004 11:19:57 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<uO-dnbI7EddRfwPdRVn-sA@comcast.com>...
Are you pro-abortion?
I ignore about 90% of your post because most of them are based upon
ignorance, bigotry, hatred,
And yours is not based on the same?
DEFINETELY not knowing what you are talking about in many of the cases,
personal attacks and so forth.
Are you talking about yourself?
Very rarely are you on topic or able to discuss or focus on the issue.
Yeah, that does seem to be a problem of the IBen clone "Osprey"
I know women who have children when they were teenagers.
"Have had children..." or "have children when they are..." speak
correct English or don't speak at all.
I also know these women love their children and don't need an excuse to love
them. They found a way to make it.
Make what? What is your definition of "make it"?
It takes courage and commitment, basic qualities you lack.
I have told you, personal attacks get you a big fat irrelevant status.
And you have the gall to accuse Flower Power of personal attacks?
I remember many years ago before I gradated, one of my best friends who was
a teen mother. She had a child at age 16.
Again, improper English.
Today that same child, her daughter, has graduated high school and gone on
to be successful.
Define successful please.
She didn't give up, she accepted responsiblity, she also finished school
herself. She didn't quit.
She didn't need material things in life to be happy either. For some
reason you think that happiness can be bought. Maybe that is how it is with
you, I really don't know nor care enough about you to want to know.
O.K.. I need you to clear something up for me please.
You say that you know somebody who was a single mother. That person
had a daughter that went to high school and then went on to be
successful.
I need to know, just what was the reason for either of them to finish
high school? If they don't need material things in life, ie; clothes,
shelter, transportation etc., then certainly a job at Walmart would
provide them with enough money to, as you say, "make it".
Women like you, I totally disrespect and would be ashamed to even be in the
same company as you...for it is women like you that would quit and look for
the easiest way out.
You see. There you go again. You can't just make a point without a
personal attack to wrap it all up with.
I am sorry sir. You leave me no choice but to render you irrelevant.
I've given you enough chances to be a qulity human being but you have
ignored my advice.
You are now at IBen status.
Read the "Unofficial Bio of IBen" to find out exactly what you are.
Your new guide toward reality
Alan C.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art |
10 May 2004 02:29:35 PM |
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"Alan" <mlmr11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:<uO-dnbI7EddRfwPdRVn-sA@comcast.com>...
Are you pro-abortion?
I ignore about 90% of your post because most of them are based upon
ignorance, bigotry, hatred,
And yours is not based on the same?
I certainly don't think so.
DEFINETELY not knowing what you are talking about in many of the cases,
personal attacks and so forth.
Are you talking about yourself?
I attack back at times, I know.
Very rarely are you on topic or able to discuss or focus on the issue.
Yeah, that does seem to be a problem of the IBen clone "Osprey"
Are you making a claim that I am IBen?
I know women who have children when they were teenagers.
"Have had children..." or "have children when they are..." speak
correct English or don't speak at all.
Whats wrong, the issue too much for you that you need to side track?
I also know these women love their children and don't need an excuse to
love
them. They found a way to make it.
Make what? What is your definition of "make it"?
You talk about English grammer and you need to ask a question like that?
It takes courage and commitment, basic qualities you lack.
I have told you, personal attacks get you a big fat irrelevant status.
And you have the gall to accuse Flower Power of personal attacks?
Yep
I remember many years ago before I gradated, one of my best friends who
was
a teen mother. She had a child at age 16.
Again, improper English.
Issue is too much for you
Today that same child, her daughter, has graduated high school and gone
on
to be successful.
Define successful please.
If you need to ask, the issue is definetely too complicated for you
She didn't give up, she accepted responsiblity, she also finished school
herself. She didn't quit.
She didn't need material things in life to be happy either. For some
reason you think that happiness can be bought. Maybe that is how it is
with
you, I really don't know nor care enough about you to want to know.
O.K.. I need you to clear something up for me please.
You say that you know somebody who was a single mother. That person
had a daughter that went to high school and then went on to be
successful.
I need to know, just what was the reason for either of them to finish
high school?
Oh boy
If they don't need material things in life, ie; clothes,
shelter, transportation etc., then certainly a job at Walmart would
provide them with enough money to, as you say, "make it".
This issue is too much for you to handle, you are getting rediculous.
Women like you, I totally disrespect and would be ashamed to even be in
the
same company as you...for it is women like you that would quit and look
for
the easiest way out.
You see. There you go again. You can't just make a point without a
personal attack to wrap it all up with.
I am sorry sir. You leave me no choice but to render you irrelevant.
O.k., bye..
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art |
11 May 2004 01:48:57 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Alan" <mlmr11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
You see. There you go again. You can't just make a point without a
personal attack to wrap it all up with.
I am sorry sir. You leave me no choice but to render you irrelevant.
O.k., bye..
==================
And once again Osprey can't answer one single question in a logical,
meaningful, understandable manner.
Now then,.... you still haven't answered this question.
I see you have no answer as to how to stop teens from having sex.....
meanwhile your daughter may be having more sex than anyone on this NG, and
you would never know, unless she got pregnant. You better keep your fingers
crossed because you have no more clue than any other bible thumper on how to
prevent unwanted pregnancies in teens.
--
Flower Power........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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| User: "Mizzyandrea" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art |
11 May 2004 01:58:02 AM |
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And once again Osprey can't answer one single question in a logical,
meaningful, understandable manner.
********************
"once again"?......... when has he ever done otherwise?
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art |
12 May 2004 02:14:24 AM |
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"Mizzyandrea" <mizzyandrea@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040511025802.13561.00000373@mb-m27.aol.com...
And once again Osprey can't answer one single question in a logical,
meaningful, understandable manner.
********************
"once again"?......... when has he ever done otherwise?
====================
Note how he dances around the question of stopping teens from having sex?
He hasn't a friggin' clue how to stop them. Once they leave the house to go
out with their friends they are out of their parent's control. Threatening
them with horror tales of some smoke belching god doesn't do it. Telling
them about the severe burden a pregnancy/unwanted child would be doesn't
work. Telling them you'll throw them out of the house doesn't do it....
he's as clueless as most parents are these days but isn't man enough to
admit it.
--
BTW,.... I'm PRO-CHOICE! :-)
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~{@
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| User: "Mizzyandrea" |
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12 May 2004 02:28:35 AM |
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Note how he dances around the question of stopping teens from having sex?
He hasn't a friggin' clue how to stop them. Once they leave the house to go
out with their friends they are out of their parent's control. Threatening
them with horror tales of some smoke belching god doesn't do it. Telling
them about the severe burden a pregnancy/unwanted child would be doesn't
work. Telling them you'll throw them out of the house doesn't do it....
he's as clueless as most parents are these days but isn't man enough to
admit it.
*******************************
He's an idiot.
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| User: "MyTwoAngels" |
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09 May 2004 05:46:46 AM |
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On 9 May 2004 03:31:43 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
"Flower Power" <LiberatedKoi@spamless.net> wrote in message news:<N-CdnXqXXobXSADdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net>...
"osprey" < > wrote in message
news:8912d58d.0405082057.3c865a70@posting.google.com...
"Flower Power" <Liberation@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:<Pe-dnbEBcaquyQDdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net>...
Of course :::vera::: lies. I haven't seen one post here telling anyone
to
KILL their children. Maybe she's hallucinating.
==============================
Just like you and Ray lie.
I haven't seen one post here telling anyone to punish women, enslave
women, force or coerce women, or having to support unwanted children.
Maybe you and Ray hallucinate.
================================
It's not PUNISHING a 14 year old girl to force her into unwanted mother
hood? It's GOOD for her and the unwanted, unloved child? Why don't you
make yourself clear then.
I have made myself very clear, several times. You chose to not want to
read my words. You chose to jump to conclusions and go on the attack.
If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers.
(True, but I was the minority in that department.)
The problem is, they shouldn't be in the position to become mothers.
Just like you shouldn't have put yourself in the position of becoming
a father? And because of it you are compelled to pay for them?
They are not smart and successful because of you. I bet they did
everything they could to become exactly the opposite of what you are.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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09 May 2004 08:56:31 PM |
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"MyTwoAngels" <illlovemy2angels4life@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 9 May 2004 03:31:43 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
"Flower Power" <LiberatedKoi@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:<N-CdnXqXXobXSADdRVn-
If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers.
(True, but I was the minority in that department.)
## There is a very small minority of teens who are willing to forfeit their
own youth to be good mothers to unplanned children. But the girl still
should have the choice to abort or keep the pregnancy. Some girls want to
keep the baby but then soon realize it was a big mistake when they see their
friends still enjoying the normal teen activities, while they sit home alone
with their TVs. They find themselves isolated and bored. They realize what
they gave up and some start to resent the innocent child.....
The problem is, they shouldn't be in the position to become mothers.
Just like you shouldn't have put yourself in the position of becoming
a father? And because of it you are compelled to pay for them?
They are not smart and successful because of you. I bet they did
everything they could to become exactly the opposite of what you are.
--
FPower
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art |
09 May 2004 09:06:33 PM |
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"Flower Power" <Liberated-women@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:7ICdnbTiLMDJfAPdRVn-jA@heartoftn.net...
"MyTwoAngels" <illlovemy2angels4life@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cp2s909vaa4ttn9ih7egplqo01p12epg7u@4ax.com...
On 9 May 2004 03:31:43 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
"Flower Power" <LiberatedKoi@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:<N-CdnXqXXobXSADdRVn-
If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers.
(True, but I was the minority in that department.)
## There is a very small minority of teens who are willing to forfeit
their
own youth to be good mothers to unplanned children. But the girl still
should have the choice to abort or keep the pregnancy. Some girls want to
keep the baby but then soon realize it was a big mistake when they see
their
friends still enjoying the normal teen activities, while they sit home
alone
with their TVs. They find themselves isolated and bored. They realize
what
they gave up and some start to resent the innocent child.....
Should have thought of that before they unzipped his pants
Lack of parental guidance!!!
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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10 May 2004 12:15:30 AM |
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"Osprey" <> wrote in message
news:_aSdnUHGNLHwfgPdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Liberated-women@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:7ICdnbTiLMDJfAPdRVn-jA@heartoftn.net...
"MyTwoAngels" <illlovemy2angels4life@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cp2s909vaa4ttn9ih7egplqo01p12epg7u@4ax.com...
On 9 May 2004 03:31:43 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
"Flower Power" <LiberatedKoi@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:<N-CdnXqXXobXSADdRVn-
If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers.
(True, but I was the minority in that department.)
## There is a very small minority of teens who are willing to forfeit
their
own youth to be good mothers to unplanned children. But the girl still
should have the choice to abort or keep the pregnancy. Some girls want
to
keep the baby but then soon realize it was a big mistake when they see
their
friends still enjoying the normal teen activities, while they sit home
alone
with their TVs. They find themselves isolated and bored. They realize
what
they gave up and some start to resent the innocent child.....
=================================
Should have thought of that before they unzipped his pants
# Why do you refuse to answer the question of HOW TO STOP teens from having
sex? Lock them in the house? Castrate the boys? Threaten to beat them
senseless? Throw them out of the house? Why do you expect all girls to be
like your daughter? Or the 100% perfect, unblemished, pure, sweet, holy one
you pretend to have?
Lack of parental guidance!!!
## What kind of Guidance stops them from having sex? And what has that got
to do with the question of how FORCING them to be mothers is beneficial for
them and the unwanted child?
--
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~><> ><>
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: How great Thou art |
10 May 2004 08:09:54 AM |
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"Flower Power" <Liberatedlady@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:oPqdnVq3FrVukgLd4p2dnA@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" < > wrote in message
news:_aSdnUHGNLHwfgPdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Liberated-women@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:7ICdnbTiLMDJfAPdRVn-jA@heartoftn.net...
"MyTwoAngels" <illlovemy2angels4life@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cp2s909vaa4ttn9ih7egplqo01p12epg7u@4ax.com...
On 9 May 2004 03:31:43 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
"Flower Power" <LiberatedKoi@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:<N-CdnXqXXobXSADdRVn-
If it's NOT punishing her what is it? You know
damn well these young teens seldom make good mothers.
(True, but I was the minority in that department.)
## There is a very small minority of teens who are willing to forfeit
their
own youth to be good mothers to unplanned children. But the girl
still
should have the choice to abort or keep the pregnancy. Some girls
want
to
keep the baby but then soon realize it was a big mistake when they see
their
friends still enjoying the normal teen activities, while they sit home
alone
with their TVs. They find themselves isolated and bored. They
realize
what
they gave up and some start to resent the innocent child.....
=================================
Should have thought of that before they unzipped his pants
# Why do you refuse to answer the question of HOW TO STOP teens from
having
sex?
Because you are neither intelligent enough nor mature enough to discuss it
I rather discuss it with people who prefer to listen and not be jackasses
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