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"J Young" |
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30 Jan 2006 08:37:35 PM |
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Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law. Illegal aliens are
just that; illegal. The rights, resources, and riches of America should be
reserved for Americans only. This country was built on immigration, legal
immigration. People followed the proper procedures and learned the
language.Those who think that our immigrations laws don't apply to them,
should fully understand why Americans don't think the benefits of being here
legally should apply to those illegals.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/11961.html
- With the exception of emergency services, Indiana has passed House Bill
1383 (HB 1383) that bans illegal aliens from receiving public assistance
and/or benefits for publicly funded health care; which includes health care
services from publicly funded hospitals or health facilities. The bill was
co-authored by Indiana State Representative P. Eric Turner (R-Marion).
The Indiana Peru Tribune reports that the bill "passed out of the Public
Safety and Homeland Security Committee by a vote of 7-3." Rep. Turner
commented: "We should not reward illegal behavior by providing public
assistance to illegal aliens. Providing public service benefits to illegal
aliens is simply endorsing illegal behavior."
As yet, there is no word as to whether or not the ACLU plans to fight
Indiana's action in court.
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"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 09:38:10 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:WpGdnTEzv_LIUEPeRVn-ig@giganews.com...
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law. Illegal aliens are
just that; illegal. The rights, resources, and riches of America should be
reserved for Americans only. This country was built on immigration, legal
immigration. People followed the proper procedures and learned the
language.Those who think that our immigrations laws don't apply to them,
should fully understand why Americans don't think the benefits of being
here
legally should apply to those illegals.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/11961.html
- With the exception of emergency services, Indiana has passed House Bill
1383 (HB 1383) that bans illegal aliens from receiving public assistance
and/or benefits for publicly funded health care; which includes health
care
services from publicly funded hospitals or health facilities. The bill was
co-authored by Indiana State Representative P. Eric Turner (R-Marion).
The Indiana Peru Tribune reports that the bill "passed out of the Public
Safety and Homeland Security Committee by a vote of 7-3." Rep. Turner
commented: "We should not reward illegal behavior by providing public
assistance to illegal aliens. Providing public service benefits to illegal
aliens is simply endorsing illegal behavior."
As yet, there is no word as to whether or not the ACLU plans to fight
Indiana's action in court.
Lets invite them to partake in our healthcare....then arrest their asses and
send them home when they come to claim it. Any state where this illegal
activity to take place should have federal funds cut.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 10:54:40 PM |
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In <DYADf.397$c64.60@dukeread12>, "Reasoned Insanity"
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:WpGdnTEzv_LIUEPeRVn-ig@giganews.com...
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law. Illegal aliens
are just that; illegal. The rights, resources, and riches of America
should be reserved for Americans only. This country was built on
immigration, legal immigration. People followed the proper procedures
and learned the language.Those who think that our immigrations laws
don't apply to them, should fully understand why Americans don't think
the benefits of being here
legally should apply to those illegals.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/11961.html
- With the exception of emergency services, Indiana has passed House
Bill 1383 (HB 1383) that bans illegal aliens from receiving public
assistance and/or benefits for publicly funded health care; which
includes health care
services from publicly funded hospitals or health facilities. The bill
was co-authored by Indiana State Representative P. Eric Turner
(R-Marion). The Indiana Peru Tribune reports that the bill "passed out
of the Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee by a vote of 7-3."
Rep. Turner commented: "We should not reward illegal behavior by
providing public assistance to illegal aliens. Providing public service
benefits to illegal aliens is simply endorsing illegal behavior."
As yet, there is no word as to whether or not the ACLU plans to fight
Indiana's action in court.
Lets invite them to partake in our healthcare....then arrest their asses
and send them home when they come to claim it. Any state where this
illegal activity to take place should have federal funds cut.
Ship all the "illegals" back and you will be cutting federal funds.
A big chunk of the Social Security surplus is coming from their pay (and
they never get any back).
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 11:16:41 PM |
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Wrong, Mark *****.
Virtually ALL of the illegals I've seen are paid in CASH. I'll admit
maybe 10% pay taxes, but the VAST majority don't.
I don't care if every left cheek wacko tells you they do. They just
wrong, punk.
The Duke-a moderate voice bringing people together
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 11:01:06 AM |
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<johnwayne@kaxy.com> wrote:
Wrong, Mark *****.
Virtually ALL of the illegals I've seen are paid in CASH. I'll admit
maybe 10% pay taxes, but the VAST majority don't.
Sales tax.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 04:13:10 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43df97d2$0$58053$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
<johnwayne@kaxy.com> wrote:
Wrong, Mark *****.
Virtually ALL of the illegals I've seen are paid in CASH. I'll admit
maybe 10% pay taxes, but the VAST majority don't.
Sales tax.
Big deal...that's not much compared to how much they suck out of this
countries social systems, send abroad, and what was lose by them not paying
any other taxes.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 04:37:01 PM |
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Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
<johnwayne@kaxy.com> wrote:
Wrong, Mark *****.
Virtually ALL of the illegals I've seen are paid in CASH. I'll admit
maybe 10% pay taxes, but the VAST majority don't.
Sales tax.
Big deal...that's not much compared to how much they suck out of this
countries social systems,
Prove it. Let's see an actual accounting of taxes withheld vs. cost
of services provided.
and what was lose by them not paying
any other taxes.
Property tax, directly and indirectly.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 11:22:44 PM |
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In <1138684601.468216.226020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
johnwayne@kaxy.com wrote:
Wrong, Mark *****.
Virtually ALL of the illegals I've seen are paid in CASH. I'll admit maybe
10% pay taxes, but the VAST majority don't.
I don't care if every left cheek wacko tells you they do. They just wrong,
punk.
The Duke-a moderate voice bringing people together
Oh, by the way, I hope you'll enjoy your new job of picking vegetables for
a couple of bucks an hour after you get rid of all the "illegals."
And you better because I am *not paying no fucking $5 a head of lettuce
because *you don't like brown people.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 11:37:16 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:22:44 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <1138684601.468216.226020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
johnwayne@kaxy.com wrote:
Wrong, Mark *****.
Virtually ALL of the illegals I've seen are paid in CASH. I'll admit maybe
10% pay taxes, but the VAST majority don't.
I don't care if every left cheek wacko tells you they do. They just wrong,
punk.
The Duke-a moderate voice bringing people together
Oh, by the way, I hope you'll enjoy your new job of picking vegetables for
a couple of bucks an hour after you get rid of all the "illegals."
And you better because I am *not paying no fucking $5 a head of lettuce
because *you don't like brown people.
Does this mean they can't carry bird flu?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 11:18:35 PM |
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In <1138684601.468216.226020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
johnwayne@kaxy.com wrote:
Wrong, Mark *****.
Virtually ALL of the illegals I've seen are paid in CASH. I'll admit maybe
10% pay taxes, but the VAST majority don't.
I don't care if every left cheek wacko tells you they do. They just wrong,
punk.
Oh I'll certainly take *your word over government statistics and the
opinion of actual experts...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 05:38:46 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ocKdnaE-iKW2bkPeRVn-pA@megapath.net...
In <1138684601.468216.226020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
johnwayne@kaxy.com wrote:
Wrong, Mark *****.
Virtually ALL of the illegals I've seen are paid in CASH. I'll admit
maybe
10% pay taxes, but the VAST majority don't.
I don't care if every left cheek wacko tells you they do. They just
wrong,
punk.
Oh I'll certainly take *your word over government statistics and the
opinion of actual experts...
You have yet to prove what government statistics prove either way.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Jan 2006 10:53:41 PM |
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In <WpGdnTEzv_LIUEPeRVn-ig@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and
against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the
wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO
TUN ASIDE THE ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
[emphasis mine of course]
Why do you rebel against your god so much?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 03:27:14 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ocKdna8-iKXLcEPeRVn-pA@megapath.net...
In <WpGdnTEzv_LIUEPeRVn-ig@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and
against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the
wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO
TUN ASIDE THE ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
That works for me.....if you want to take scripture out of context. Come
back when you develop an understanding of the bible.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 10:45:38 PM |
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In <JFQDf.933$c64.45@dukeread12>, "Reasoned Insanity"
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ocKdna8-iKXLcEPeRVn-pA@megapath.net...
In <WpGdnTEzv_LIUEPeRVn-ig@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against
those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner
in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO TUN ASIDE THE
ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
That works for me.....if you want to take scripture out of context. Come
back when you develop an understanding of the bible.
Except, of course, I'm not. The issue of the treatment of strangers in
your land is *all through the Old Testament. It is, in fact, contrary to
popular myth, one of the primary reasons given for the judgement of Sodom
and Gomorrah. Ezekiel says they were destroyed because they were rich,
decadent, selfish, and mistreated strangers in their land.
It's always the people who yell the most about "obeying god's word" that
know the least about it...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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01 Feb 2006 07:22:07 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:QqKdncEVhcxuoX3eRVn-pg@megapath.net...
In <JFQDf.933$c64.45@dukeread12>, "Reasoned Insanity"
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ocKdna8-iKXLcEPeRVn-pA@megapath.net...
In <WpGdnTEzv_LIUEPeRVn-ig@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against
those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner
in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO TUN ASIDE THE
ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
That works for me.....if you want to take scripture out of context. Come
back when you develop an understanding of the bible.
Except, of course, I'm not.
Sure you are.
The issue of the treatment of strangers in
your land is *all through the Old Testament.
Post a few more verses then instead of building your whole case of one
verse.
It is, in fact, contrary to
popular myth, one of the primary reasons given for the judgement of Sodom
and Gomorrah. Ezekiel says they were destroyed because they were rich,
decadent, selfish, and mistreated strangers in their land.
More misusing the bible to support your cause I see...thanks for making it
for all to see.
Ezekiel 16:49,50
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of
bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither
did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty,
and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw
good.
What reasons does this passage give about Sodom? They were proud and
arrogant. They had fulness of bread, in other words they were
self-indulgent. Abundance of idleness - they were lazy. They assumed NO
responsibility for poor people, they had no social conscience. They were
haughty - "stuck-up" with an attitude of superiority, arrogant.
Jeremiah 23:14
I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they
commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of
evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness; they are all of them
unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
They committed adultry, again specific sexuality immorality, and were liars
and decievers. They supported and gave legitimacy to the godless ones, those
who had no place in their heart for God. God says that THIS is how they
remind them of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Jude 1:7 (KJV)
"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are
set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
Sodom is first mentioned in connection with Lot's choosing a pleasant place
to live. But the warning is given that "the men of Sodom were wicked and
sinners before the LORD exceedingly." Gen. 13.13
2 Peter 2.6 - 8 "And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes
condemned them with an overthrow, making them an example unto those that
after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy
conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in
seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their
unlawful deeds.)"
Jude seems to associate the sins of Sodom with fleshly sins which may point
particularly to sexual sins, but these are not specified:
Jude 1.4, 7, 8 "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were
before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace
of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord
Jesus Christ. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like
manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange
flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal
fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise
dominion, and speak evil of dignities."
And that's the Bible record of the sins of Sodom. Unfortunately people have
a long-standing habit to read into Scriptures what is not there, thus
justifying their own sins and their spirit of judgmentalism.
It's always the people who yell the most about "obeying god's word" that
know the least about it...
And you have just proven that you know nothing about it just like the
typical non-believer.
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31 Jan 2006 04:32:14 PM |
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Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
"J Young"
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and
against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the
wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO
TUN ASIDE THE ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
That works for me.....if you want to take scripture out of context. Come
back when you develop an understanding of the bible.
Never mind the words, the Bible says whatever the right-wingers say
it means. That's why they once made it a crime to own a Bible.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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31 Jan 2006 05:43:22 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
"J Young"
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and
against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the
wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO
TUN ASIDE THE ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
That works for me.....if you want to take scripture out of context. Come
back when you develop an understanding of the bible.
Never mind the words, the Bible says whatever the right-wingers say
it means. That's why they once made it a crime to own a Bible.
Catholics made it a crime to own a bible. Christians like Martin Luther made
it possible for the common man to own one and enabled them to be able to
read it.. I'm not talking about the black civil rights leader either.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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31 Jan 2006 10:42:57 PM |
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In <43dfe56e$0$58066$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
"J Young"
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against
those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner
in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO TUN ASIDE THE
ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
That works for me.....if you want to take scripture out of context. Come
back when you develop an understanding of the bible.
Never mind the words, the Bible says whatever the right-wingers say it
means. That's why they once made it a crime to own a Bible.
I'm surprised they're not trying to restrict access to it *now. It
contradicts pretty much everything they stand for...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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30 Jan 2006 11:13:54 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"J Young"
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and
against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the
wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO
TUN ASIDE THE ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
[emphasis mine of course]
Why do you rebel against your god so much?
Because he's Catholic.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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30 Jan 2006 11:20:38 PM |
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In <43def212$0$58109$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"J Young"
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against
those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner
in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO TUN ASIDE THE
ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
[emphasis mine of course]
Why do you rebel against your god so much?
Because he's Catholic.
You know, you'd think that bible thing would put a brick in the shorts of
religious right wingers. I mean, "those who swear falsely," "those who
oppress the wage earner, the widow, the orphan," "those who turn aside the
alien"... it's like reading the Republican party platform...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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01 Feb 2006 01:12:02 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:20:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
In <43def212$0$58109$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"J Young"
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law.
Hm... wonder if the Bible has anything to say about this subject...
Malachi 3:5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift
witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against
those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner
in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and THOSE WHO TUN ASIDE THE
ALIEN and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
[emphasis mine of course]
Why do you rebel against your god so much?
Because he's Catholic.
You know, you'd think that bible thing would put a brick in the shorts of
religious right wingers. I mean, "those who swear falsely," "those who
oppress the wage earner, the widow, the orphan," "those who turn aside the
alien"... it's like reading the Republican party platform...
I know. They're fully aware their 'God' is powerless.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 11:12:30 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law. Illegal aliens are
just that; illegal. The rights, resources, and riches of America should be
reserved for Americans only.
And obviously every state should also pass a law that refuses and
returns all tax money (income and sales) collected from "illegal
aliens".
[...]
- With the exception of emergency services, Indiana has passed House Bill
1383 (HB 1383) that bans illegal aliens from receiving public assistance
and/or benefits for publicly funded health care; which includes health care
services from publicly funded hospitals or health facilities.
What? Indiana is going to collect taxes but not provide the services?
Greedy hypocrites.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 05:43:58 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43def1be$0$58109$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law. Illegal aliens are
just that; illegal. The rights, resources, and riches of America should be
reserved for Americans only.
And obviously every state should also pass a law that refuses and
returns all tax money (income and sales) collected from "illegal
aliens".
They may pay sales tax, but you have yet to prove that they pay income tax.
You also forgot to mention how much cash they send back over the boarder.
- With the exception of emergency services, Indiana has passed House Bill
1383 (HB 1383) that bans illegal aliens from receiving public assistance
and/or benefits for publicly funded health care; which includes health
care
services from publicly funded hospitals or health facilities.
What? Indiana is going to collect taxes but not provide the services?
Greedy hypocrites.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 11:03:37 AM |
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Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43def1be$0$58109$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law. Illegal aliens are
just that; illegal. The rights, resources, and riches of America should be
reserved for Americans only.
And obviously every state should also pass a law that refuses and
returns all tax money (income and sales) collected from "illegal
aliens".
They may pay sales tax, but you have yet to prove that they pay income tax.
No I don't. Many pay income tax using fake SS numbers.
All pay sales tax. NONE is going to be refunded.
You also forgot to mention how much cash they send back over the boarder.
Because it's not relevant.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 03:30:01 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43df9869$0$58053$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43def1be$0$58109$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law. Illegal aliens
are
just that; illegal. The rights, resources, and riches of America should
be
reserved for Americans only.
And obviously every state should also pass a law that refuses and
returns all tax money (income and sales) collected from "illegal
aliens".
They may pay sales tax, but you have yet to prove that they pay income
tax.
No I don't. Many pay income tax using fake SS numbers.
All pay sales tax. NONE is going to be refunded.
What? No proof again? BIG surprise coming from you Ray.
You also forgot to mention how much cash they send back over the boarder.
Because it's not relevant.
Sure it is. We as Americans want money to stay in the US. Then again, you
are anti-American aren't you?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 04:33:28 PM |
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Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law. Illegal aliens
are
just that; illegal. The rights, resources, and riches of America should
be
reserved for Americans only.
And obviously every state should also pass a law that refuses and
returns all tax money (income and sales) collected from "illegal
aliens".
They may pay sales tax, but you have yet to prove that they pay income
tax.
No I don't. Many pay income tax using fake SS numbers.
All pay sales tax. NONE is going to be refunded.
What? No proof again?
Look at the law. No provision for returning taxes collected from
illegal aliens.
You also forgot to mention how much cash they send back over the boarder.
Because it's not relevant.
Sure it is.
How?
We as Americans want money to stay in the US.
BFD. That doesn't justify stealing.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
31 Jan 2006 05:48:20 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43dfe5b8$0$58066$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Every state in the country should pass a similiar law. Illegal aliens
are
just that; illegal. The rights, resources, and riches of America
should
be
reserved for Americans only.
And obviously every state should also pass a law that refuses and
returns all tax money (income and sales) collected from "illegal
aliens".
They may pay sales tax, but you have yet to prove that they pay income
tax.
No I don't. Many pay income tax using fake SS numbers.
All pay sales tax. NONE is going to be refunded.
What? No proof again?
Look at the law. No provision for returning taxes collected from
illegal aliens.
Still no proof of them paying income tax huh?
You also forgot to mention how much cash they send back over the
boarder.
Because it's not relevant.
Sure it is.
How?
Because it is another example of the cost that illegals put on this society.
We as Americans want money to stay in the US.
BFD. That doesn't justify stealing.
Who is stealing anything from anyone?
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| User: "Martin Kess" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 10:13:13 PM |
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Of course in the typical Christian fashion, Mr. Young forgets what
these people are before illegal aliens - "Human Beings."
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 10:30:26 PM |
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"Martin Kess" <MartinKess@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138680793.888491.137820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Of course in the typical Christian fashion, Mr. Young forgets what
these people are before illegal aliens - "Human Beings."
You seem to forget that we should be taking care of the healthcare of our
own before we try to take care of that of those who shouldn't be here in the
first place.
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
22 Mar 2006 09:58:56 AM |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:30:26 -0600, "Reasoned Insanity"
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Martin Kess" <MartinKess@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138680793.888491.137820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Of course in the typical Christian fashion, Mr. Young forgets what
these people are before illegal aliens - "Human Beings."
You seem to forget that we should be taking care of the healthcare of our
own before we try to take care of that of those who shouldn't be here in the
first place.
I would think that it might be more direct to take care of the health
of our own. Taking care of healthcare is the diversion that the
insurance companies have created. All they do skim their profits off
the top of the health care dollar and pretend to regulate the costs of
a field they have no business being in.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Indiana Says No to Public Healthcare for Illegals |
30 Jan 2006 11:13:23 PM |
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Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Martin Kess" <MartinKess@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138680793.888491.137820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Of course in the typical Christian fashion, Mr. Young forgets what
these people are before illegal aliens - "Human Beings."
You seem to forget that we should be taking care of the healthcare of our
own
You right-wingers don't give a ***** about anybody but yourselves. You
certainly don't care about providing ANYBODY health care.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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