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Science > Abortion |
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"swaddleitinsaliva" |
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13 Jul 2007 06:05:22 AM |
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JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
As the "morning-after' pill proves more popular than either its
proponents or its hypocritical, anti-science, conservative, right-wing
religionist critics could have imagined, U.S. women age 18 and older
are enjoying freer access to birth control and avoidance of unwanted
pregnancies.
21st century science!
Lacking rational verbal ammunition in opposition to what many are
calling "A New Freedom Of Birth," anti-abortionists and anti-adult-
stem-cell research-boobs doubtless are thinking --- if not saying
publicly -- "Do I have to go out and shoot these druggists who are
selling them devil-pills?"
Actually, out in the benighted Bible Belt and other lands of the
ignorant, including those of Pope-huggin' Catholics, many pharmacists
who believe in a wrathful and spiteful god and that the Bible preaches
against birth control and other foolish notions -- are refusing to
sell the pills.
But with Plan B out of the bottle, women have climbed another rung of
freedom!
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"Plan B Use Surges, And So Does Controversy"
By Rob Stein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 13, 2007; A01
The popularity of the morning-after pill Plan B has surged in the year
since the federal government approved the sale of the controversial
emergency contraceptive without a prescription.
Plan B sales have doubled since the Food and Drug Administration
authorized the switch for women 18 and older last August, rising from
about $40 million a year to what will probably be close to $80 million
for 2007, according to Barr Pharmaceuticals, which makes Plan B.
The sharp rise was hailed by women's health and family-planning
advocates, who say it illustrates the value of easing access to birth
control to help prevent unwanted pregnancies.
"This is exactly what we hoped would happen," said Susan F. Wood of
the George Washington University School of Public Health. As assistant
commissioner for women's health and director of the Office of Women's
Health at the FDA, Wood pushed for the switch. "What we're seeing is
women who needed this product now finally having access to it. For a
woman in that position, it can make a real difference in her life."
But conservative groups that fought the change say they are disturbed
by the surging use.
"This is very concerning," said Charmaine Yoest of the Family Research
Council, which is among several groups suing the FDA to reverse the
decision. "We think this is putting women's health at risk."
Plan B consists of higher doses of the hormones found in standard
birth control pills. Taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex, Plan B
has been shown to be highly effective at preventing pregnancies.
With strong support from women's health groups and family-planning
advocates, Barr asked the FDA to allow Plan B's sale without a
prescription so women would not have to overcome the obstacle of
getting a doctor's permission before they could get the drug.
Conservative members of Congress and advocacy groups strongly opposed
the move. They questioned the drug's safety and argued that easier
availability could encourage sexual activity and make it easier for
men to have sex with underage girls. They also maintain the pill can
cause the equivalent of an abortion.
The FDA delayed the move for three years despite endorsements by the
agency's outside advisers and internal reviewers, leading to intense
criticism that the agency was allowing politics to influence the
decision.
The Aug. 25 ruling that finally permitted the change was criticized
both by conservatives and by proponents, who were disappointed that
the agency limited the easier availability to women 18 and older. The
agency said there was too little safety data to approve the drug for
teenagers younger than 18. The requirement means women must show proof
of their age, which could make it more difficult for some women, such
as illegal immigrants, to obtain the pill.
"There's no medical basis for restricting teenagers' access to
emergency contraception," said Nancy Northup, president of the Center
for Reproductive Rights in New York, which is suing the FDA to remove
the age restriction. "This not about morality, it's about public
health and cutting America's alarmingly high teenage pregnancy rates."
Advocates attribute the increased use despite the limitation both to
the easier access and greater awareness of the drug's availability due
to educational campaigns by family-planning advocates and media
coverage of the controversy.
At the same time, Barr has been advertising Plan B in women's
magazines and trying to educate pharmacists about the drug. More than
54,000 pharmacists have completed an online training program about
Plan B.
"The impetus for us wanting Plan B to be made available over the
counter was to increase women's access to the product. Even with this
interim step, it appears that has enabled more women to have access,"
said Amy Niemann, Barr's senior vice president of proprietary
marketing. "That's the good news."
The company would not release the actual number of units being sold
for Plan B, which retails for about $50.
Sarah, 27, a school counselor who lives in the District, was glad she
did not need a prescription after the condom her boyfriend was using
came off last month.
"I just went to the pharmacy, and it was so easy," she said, asking
that her last name not be used. "It's a really good option."
Despite the change, Plan B remains the focus of intense debate,
particularly over whether pharmacists who oppose its use on moral
grounds should be required to provide it and whether Catholic
hospitals should be required to provide women with either information
about the drug or the medication itself.
Several states have passed laws either requiring pharmacists to
provide Plan B or protecting those who refuse. Fourteen states now
require hospitals to provide women with information about emergency
contraception or the medication. At least 19 other states are
considering legislation, and a bill was recently introduced in
Congress that would require pharmacies to make sure women get access
to all forms of birth control, including Plan B.
Surveys and anecdotal reports indicate that some pharmacies refuse to
stock the drug, some pharmacists refuse to provide it to women and
some pharmacy workers mistakenly believe only the pharmacist can
dispense the drug.
"Even though it's now available without a prescription, there are
still significant obstacles that customers are facing around the
country," said Ted Miller of NARAL Pro-Choice America, which has been
surveying pharmacies around the country. "The over-the-counter access
is not a cure-all."
Tashina Byrd, 24, said she was turned away by a pharmacist in
Springfield, Ohio, in January after her fiance's condom broke and she
tried to buy Plan B.
"He just laughed and told the attendant to tell me no one would give
it to me," Byrd said. "I was enraged and humiliated."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/12/AR2007071202146.html
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| User: "The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN." |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
13 Jul 2007 04:51:35 PM |
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On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"swaddleitinsaliva" <clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184324722.235850.269270@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
As the "morning-after' pill proves more popular than either its
proponents or its hypocritical, anti-science, conservative, right-wing
religionist critics could have imagined, U.S. women age 18 and older
are enjoying freer access to birth control and avoidance of unwanted
pregnancies.
21st century science!
Lacking rational verbal ammunition in opposition to what many are
calling "A New Freedom Of Birth," anti-abortionists and anti-adult-
stem-cell research-boobs doubtless are thinking --- if not saying
publicly -- "Do I have to go out and shoot these druggists who are
selling them devil-pills?"
Trying to shift the guilt of the killing crew to the non-killing crew,
again?
Actually, out in the benighted Bible Belt and other lands of the
ignorant,
Lands of the ignorant?
Wouldn't that be the lands of the lack of cognizance of human sexual
reproduction?
including those of Pope-huggin' Catholics, many pharmacists
who believe in a wrathful and spiteful god and that the Bible preaches
against birth control and other foolish notions -- are refusing to
sell the pills.
Which would be their legal right, according to the constitution and free
market economics.
But with Plan B out of the bottle, women have climbed another rung of
freedom!
to single motherhood and being in a whoremongering militaristic tax leech
clan?
If only life were simple, and all a woman had to do was keep her legs
crossed, we wouldn't have Wentzkys.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
14 Jul 2007 01:18:17 PM |
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"The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN." <hugh.jarse@heathens.org.uk> wrote in
news:1184363495.421779.74230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"swaddleitinsaliva" <clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184324722.235850.269270@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
As the "morning-after' pill proves more popular than either its
proponents or its hypocritical, anti-science, conservative,
right-wing religionist critics could have imagined, U.S. women age
18 and older are enjoying freer access to birth control and
avoidance of unwanted pregnancies.
21st century science!
Lacking rational verbal ammunition in opposition to what many are
calling "A New Freedom Of Birth," anti-abortionists and anti-adult-
stem-cell research-boobs doubtless are thinking --- if not saying
publicly -- "Do I have to go out and shoot these druggists who are
selling them devil-pills?"
Trying to shift the guilt of the killing crew to the non-killing
crew, again?
Actually, out in the benighted Bible Belt and other lands of the
ignorant,
Lands of the ignorant?
Wouldn't that be the lands of the lack of cognizance of human sexual
reproduction?
including those of Pope-huggin' Catholics, many pharmacists
who believe in a wrathful and spiteful god and that the Bible
preaches against birth control and other foolish notions -- are
refusing to sell the pills.
Which would be their legal right, according to the constitution and
free market economics.
But with Plan B out of the bottle, women have climbed another rung
of freedom!
to single motherhood and being in a whoremongering militaristic tax
leech clan?
If only life were simple, and all a woman had to do was keep her legs
crossed, we wouldn't have Wentzkys.
A thousand curses on the woman who slung leg and birthed that moron.
One wonders why she hated us so.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
13 Jul 2007 07:19:02 AM |
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On Jul 13, 6:05 am, swaddleitinsaliva <clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
As the "morning-after' pill proves more popular than either its
proponents or its hypocritical, anti-science, conservative, right-wing
religionist critics could have imagined, U.S. women age 18 and older
are enjoying freer access to birth control and avoidance of unwanted
pregnancies.
21st century science!
Lacking rational verbal ammunition in opposition to what many are
calling "A New Freedom Of Birth," anti-abortionists and anti-adult-
stem-cell research-boobs doubtless are thinking --- if not saying
publicly -- "Do I have to go out and shoot these druggists who are
selling them devil-pills?"
Actually, out in the benighted Bible Belt and other lands of the
ignorant, including those of Pope-huggin' Catholics, many pharmacists
who believe in a wrathful and spiteful god and that the Bible preaches
against birth control and other foolish notions -- are refusing to
sell the pills.
But with Plan B out of the bottle, women have climbed another rung of
freedom!
------------------
"Plan B Use Surges, And So Does Controversy"
By Rob Stein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 13, 2007; A01
The popularity of the morning-after pill Plan B has surged in the year
since the federal government approved the sale of the controversial
emergency contraceptive without a prescription.
Plan B sales have doubled since the Food and Drug Administration
authorized the switch for women 18 and older last August, rising from
about $40 million a year to what will probably be close to $80 million
for 2007, according to Barr Pharmaceuticals, which makes Plan B.
The sharp rise was hailed by women's health and family-planning
advocates, who say it illustrates the value of easing access to birth
control to help prevent unwanted pregnancies.
"This is exactly what we hoped would happen," said Susan F. Wood of
the George Washington University School of Public Health. As assistant
commissioner for women's health and director of the Office of Women's
Health at the FDA, Wood pushed for the switch. "What we're seeing is
women who needed this product now finally having access to it. For a
woman in that position, it can make a real difference in her life."
But conservative groups that fought the change say they are disturbed
by the surging use.
"This is very concerning," said Charmaine Yoest of the Family Research
Council, which is among several groups suing the FDA to reverse the
decision. "We think this is putting women's health at risk."
Plan B consists of higher doses of the hormones found in standard
birth control pills. Taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex, Plan B
has been shown to be highly effective at preventing pregnancies.
With strong support from women's health groups and family-planning
advocates, Barr asked the FDA to allow Plan B's sale without a
prescription so women would not have to overcome the obstacle of
getting a doctor's permission before they could get the drug.
Conservative members of Congress and advocacy groups strongly opposed
the move. They questioned the drug's safety and argued that easier
availability could encourage sexual activity and make it easier for
men to have sex with underage girls. They also maintain the pill can
cause the equivalent of an abortion.
The FDA delayed the move for three years despite endorsements by the
agency's outside advisers and internal reviewers, leading to intense
criticism that the agency was allowing politics to influence the
decision.
The Aug. 25 ruling that finally permitted the change was criticized
both by conservatives and by proponents, who were disappointed that
the agency limited the easier availability to women 18 and older. The
agency said there was too little safety data to approve the drug for
teenagers younger than 18. The requirement means women must show proof
of their age, which could make it more difficult for some women, such
as illegal immigrants, to obtain the pill.
"There's no medical basis for restricting teenagers' access to
emergency contraception," said Nancy Northup, president of the Center
for Reproductive Rights in New York, which is suing the FDA to remove
the age restriction. "This not about morality, it's about public
health and cutting America's alarmingly high teenage pregnancy rates."
Advocates attribute the increased use despite the limitation both to
the easier access and greater awareness of the drug's availability due
to educational campaigns by family-planning advocates and media
coverage of the controversy.
At the same time, Barr has been advertising Plan B in women's
magazines and trying to educate pharmacists about the drug. More than
54,000 pharmacists have completed an online training program about
Plan B.
"The impetus for us wanting Plan B to be made available over the
counter was to increase women's access to the product. Even with this
interim step, it appears that has enabled more women to have access,"
said Amy Niemann, Barr's senior vice president of proprietary
marketing. "That's the good news."
The company would not release the actual number of units being sold
for Plan B, which retails for about $50.
Sarah, 27, a school counselor who lives in the District, was glad she
did not need a prescription after the condom her boyfriend was using
came off last month.
"I just went to the pharmacy, and it was so easy," she said, asking
that her last name not be used. "It's a really good option."
Despite the change, Plan B remains the focus of intense debate,
particularly over whether pharmacists who oppose its use on moral
grounds should be required to provide it and whether Catholic
hospitals should be required to provide women with either information
about the drug or the medication itself.
Several states have passed laws either requiring pharmacists to
provide Plan B or protecting those who refuse. Fourteen states now
require hospitals to provide women with information about emergency
contraception or the medication. At least 19 other states are
considering legislation, and a bill was recently introduced in
Congress that would require pharmacies to make sure women get access
to all forms of birth control, including Plan B.
Surveys and anecdotal reports indicate that some pharmacies refuse to
stock the drug, some pharmacists refuse to provide it to women and
some pharmacy workers mistakenly believe only the pharmacist can
dispense the drug.
"Even though it's now available without a prescription, there are
still significant obstacles that customers are facing around the
country," said Ted Miller of NARAL Pro-Choice America, which has been
surveying pharmacies around the country. "The over-the-counter access
is not a cure-all."
Tashina Byrd, 24, said she was turned away by a pharmacist in
Springfield, Ohio, in January after her fiance's condom broke and she
tried to buy Plan B.
"He just laughed and told the attendant to tell me no one would give
it to me," Byrd said. "I was enraged and humiliated."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/12/AR200...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses. If you think its morally wrong
then you should not have become a pharmacist.
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13 Jul 2007 11:41:21 AM |
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<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B requests.
Are you saying that the people who go to obtain plan b pills attended
pharmacy school or medical school or what?
If you think its morally wrong
then you should not have become a pharmacist.
If you think it is morally correct to have sex and 86 the in utero person
why are you intolerant of those who do not agree with participating in your
personal agenda?
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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14 Jul 2007 01:18:17 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired. It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever else
goes on in a workplace.
It's that simple, really.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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14 Jul 2007 01:35:23 PM |
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"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever else
goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude and it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
It's that simple, really.
It's so simple, you don't seem to understand it.
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14 Jul 2007 11:21:30 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:WH8mi.12461$ca.7834@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A<SLAP>
Don't talk back to me, *****.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude
and it guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
You're free to find another job. If I hire you to work for me, you will
work, or I will fire you. Period.
It's that simple, really.
It<SLAP>
Work or get fired. Simple as that.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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14 Jul 2007 11:56:53 PM |
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"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:WH8mi.12461$ca.7834@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A<SLAP>
Don't talk back to me, *****.
Why?
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude
and it guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
You're free to find another job.
True.
If I hire you to work for me, you will
work, or I will fire you. Period.
Am I applying to work for you?
It's that simple, really.
It<SLAP>
Work or get fired.
Because you say so?
LOL!
Simple as that.
You think you can tell me what to do?
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15 Jul 2007 06:12:34 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:LNhmi.57951$Fo1.28297@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
You think you can tell me what to do?
Reply to this post! I COMMAND YOU! *squinty*
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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15 Jul 2007 09:19:23 PM |
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"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:LNhmi.57951$Fo1.28297@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
You think you can tell me what to do?
Reply to this post! I COMMAND YOU! *squinty*
Good thing you seem to have comprehended that some people are not into
performing the commands of those with the self-assumed title BAAWA.
But, don't fret over that fact in a Freedom of Speech nation.
Feel better now?
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15 Jul 2007 09:37:27 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
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"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996EB97043845askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:LNhmi.57951$Fo1.28297@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
You think you can tell me what to do?
Reply to this post! I COMMAND YOU! *squinty*
Good thing you seem to have comprehended that some people are not into
performing the commands of those with the self-assumed title BAAWA.
But, don't fret over that fact in a Freedom of Speech nation.
Feel better now?
Couldn't hold off, could you?
And BAAWA Knight is not a self-assumed title, it is awarded for honorable
use of a bad-assed attitude against the brainless hordes.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"The beauty of religious mania is that it has the power to explain
everything. Once God (or Satan) is accepted as the first cause of
everything which happens in the mortal world, nothing is left to
chance...logic can be happily tossed out the window."
Stephen King
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16 Jul 2007 02:17:53 PM |
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"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
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"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:LNhmi.57951$Fo1.28297@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
You think you can tell me what to do?
Reply to this post! I COMMAND YOU! *squinty*
Good thing you seem to have comprehended that some people are not into
performing the commands of those with the self-assumed title BAAWA.
But, don't fret over that fact in a Freedom of Speech nation.
Feel better now?
Couldn't hold off, could you?
Why should I?
And BAAWA Knight is not a self-assumed title, it is awarded for honorable
use of a bad-assed attitude against the brainless hordes.
'Attitude only' is a positive.
I wonder how often anyone within the atheist 'clan' becomes a BAAWA against
any brainless components of the atheist club.
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"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
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You think you can tell me what to do?
Reply to this post! I COMMAND YOU! *squinty*
Good thing you seem to have comprehended that some people are not into
performing the commands of those with the self-assumed title BAAWA.
But, don't fret over that fact in a Freedom of Speech nation.
Feel better now?
Good dog. Wanna biscuit?
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Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
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Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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On Jul 14, 11:21 pm, Doc Smartass <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com>
wrote:
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote innews:WH8mi.12461$ca.7834@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A<SLAP>
Don't talk back to me, *****.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude
and it guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
You're free to find another job. If I hire you to work for me, you will
work, or I will fire you. Period.
He's been unemployed for a decade and a half.
It's that simple, really.
It<SLAP>
Work or get fired. Simple as that.
He'd rather whine and leach off the taxpayers and government he
despises.
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Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
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Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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On Jul 15, 12:21 am, Doc Smartass <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com>
wrote:
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote innews:WH8mi.12461$ca.7834@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A<SLAP>
Don't talk back to me, *****.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude
and it guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
You're free to find another job. If I hire you to work for me, you will
work, or I will fire you. Period.
He's already familiar with getting fired - he got canned from Duke.
It's that simple, really.
It<SLAP>
Work or get fired. Simple as that.
He doesn't work - he enjoys leeching off the government instead
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
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Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!- Hide quoted text -
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14 Jul 2007 02:25:53 PM |
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John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
Then stop crying and stop whining.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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14 Jul 2007 01:53:12 PM |
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John D. Wentzky wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever else
goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude and it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
No Jesus freaks in MY office -- especially ignorant right-wing,
hate-thy-neighbor assholes such as you. You're Fired!
It's that simple, really.
It's so simple, you don't seem to understand it.
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
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14 Jul 2007 10:27:38 PM |
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"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sY8mi.11127$Xa3.5889@attbi_s22...
John D. Wentzky wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever else
goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude and
it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
No Jesus freaks in MY office -- especially ignorant right-wing,
hate-thy-neighbor assholes such as you. You're Fired!
Funny line since that means you won't have anyone other than yourself there
until you become what you think is a "Jesus freak".
It's that simple, really.
It's so simple, you don't seem to understand it.
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
Stereotyping?
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14 Jul 2007 11:22:22 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
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"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:sY8mi.11127$Xa3.5889@attbi_s22...
John D. Wentzky wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude
and it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
No Jesus freaks in MY office -- especially ignorant right-wing,
hate-thy-neighbor assholes such as you. You're Fired!
Funny line since that means you won't have anyone other than yourself
there until you become what you think is a "Jesus freak".
<SLAP>
Don't talk back to him, either, freak.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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14 Jul 2007 11:55:05 PM |
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"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
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"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:sY8mi.11127$Xa3.5889@attbi_s22...
John D. Wentzky wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu_11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude
and it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
No Jesus freaks in MY office -- especially ignorant right-wing,
hate-thy-neighbor assholes such as you. You're Fired!
Funny line since that means you won't have anyone other than yourself
there until you become what you think is a "Jesus freak".
<SLAP>
Don't talk back to him, either, freak.
Freedom of speech got you down, again?
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15 Jul 2007 09:00:07 PM |
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On Jul 15, 12:55 am, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996DEDF6994D3askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:Gugmi.12752$ca.2043@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <g...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:sY8mi.11127$Xa3.5889@attbi_s22...
John D. Wentzky wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude
and it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
No Jesus freaks in MY office -- especially ignorant right-wing,
hate-thy-neighbor assholes such as you. You're Fired!
Funny line since that means you won't have anyone other than yourself
there until you become what you think is a "Jesus freak".
<SLAP>
Don't talk back to him, either, freak.
Freedom of speech got you down, again?
Alcohol got you drunk, again?
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16 Jul 2007 01:08:55 PM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184551207.326222.160290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 15, 12:55 am, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996DEDF6994D3askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:Gugmi.12752$ca.2043@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <g...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:sY8mi.11127$Xa3.5889@attbi_s22...
John D. Wentzky wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude
and it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
No Jesus freaks in MY office -- especially ignorant right-wing,
hate-thy-neighbor assholes such as you. You're Fired!
Funny line since that means you won't have anyone other than yourself
there until you become what you think is a "Jesus freak".
<SLAP>
Don't talk back to him, either, freak.
Freedom of speech got you down, again?
Alcohol got you drunk, again?
Me get drunk?
Are you crazy?
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16 Jul 2007 08:29:18 PM |
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On Jul 16, 2:08 pm, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184551207.326222.160290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 15, 12:55 am, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996DEDF6994D3askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:Gugmi.12752$ca.2043@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <g...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:sY8mi.11127$Xa3.5889@attbi_s22...
John D. Wentzky wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude
and it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
No Jesus freaks in MY office -- especially ignorant right-wing,
hate-thy-neighbor assholes such as you. You're Fired!
Funny line since that means you won't have anyone other than yourself
there until you become what you think is a "Jesus freak".
<SLAP>
Don't talk back to him, either, freak.
Freedom of speech got you down, again?
Alcohol got you drunk, again?
Me get drunk?
Based on the pending charges, apparently you do...
Are you crazy?
Are you drunk?
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17 Jul 2007 11:29:03 PM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184635758.407588.248780@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 16, 2:08 pm, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184551207.326222.160290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 15, 12:55 am, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996DEDF6994D3askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:Gugmi.12752$ca.2043@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <g...@hotmail.com> wrote
in
messagenews:sY8mi.11127$Xa3.5889@attbi_s22...
John D. Wentzky wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
<pu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184329142.637213.201710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Pharmacists who cannot do their job properly should no longer
be
pharmicists, take away their licenses.
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of
their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or
whatever
else goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary
servitude
and it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
No Jesus freaks in MY office -- especially ignorant right-wing,
hate-thy-neighbor assholes such as you. You're Fired!
Funny line since that means you won't have anyone other than
yourself
there until you become what you think is a "Jesus freak".
<SLAP>
Don't talk back to him, either, freak.
Freedom of speech got you down, again?
Alcohol got you drunk, again?
Me get drunk?
Based on the pending charges, apparently you do...
Pending, ding, ding, ding...........
Look at that clock tick on those false charges.
Wow.
How much more will that indebt the fraudulent wop and ***** ***** licking
government to me?
Are you crazy?
Are you drunk?
Me?
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14 Jul 2007 06:22:38 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:35:23 -0400 there was an Ancient "John D.
Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> who stoppeth one in
alt.atheism
"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996D878AC1418askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:%WNli.33672$19.32921@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Present something that would warrant depriving a person of their
professional employment in the USA if they did not fill Plan B
requests.
Work or get fired.
A crybaby who does not understand the Constitution whines.
OK, show men where the Constitution allows you to keep your job and
not do the work.
It's no different from answering phones, wiping *****
off the toilet seat, typing up a form, running copies, or whatever else
goes on in a workplace.
Other than the Constitution forbids requiring involuntary servitude and it
guarantees free exercise of religion, idiot.
Applying for a job and agreeing to the conditions of employment is not
involuntary servitude. You volunteered to work there. Sent in a
resume, did your best at the interview, shook hands and signed the
employment agreement.
Involuntary servitude means you had no choice, and cannot quit.
A pharmacist agrees to do the job, then declares that he won't do
certain portions of it. He gets fired.
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
It's that simple, really.
It's so simple, you don't seem to understand it.
Would you care for a mountain of case law that disagrees with you?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
14 Jul 2007 10:29:10 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
The government would.
It's that simple, really.
It's so simple, you don't seem to understand it.
Would you care for a mountain of case law that disagrees with you?
To be cast into the ocean?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
15 Jul 2007 12:24:45 AM |
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John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to punish
him for his beliefs. Obviously you're being a hypocrite again. You
really don't have any principles at all. You're just a spoiled brat
and pathetic loser who can't even stay out of prison.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
15 Jul 2007 12:41:53 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4699af9d$0$14131$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to punish
him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist?
When it comes to attorneys they are bound to practice the law.
They are not entitled to deny representation to Christians in the USA; just
as the Constitution forbids transgressing the peoples' right to free
exercise of religion by disallowing requiring involuntary servitude from
them.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported.
The reason you don't like me is because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny
bratty criminal fuckup such as yourself.
You just can't tolerate people who have lived better, more productive, more
talented, more cultured, better behaved lives than yourself.
Your rebellious attitude towards those who you can't equal is something that
make you into the loser bitchbrained fool that you are.
and pathetic loser who can't even stay out of prison.
You *are* an idiot to assume such.
You are such an idiot that you asserted that I can not stay out of prison,
yet I am NOT in prison.
You lied, you fool.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
15 Jul 2007 01:42:08 AM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4699af9d$0$14131$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to punish
him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist?
When it comes to attorneys they are bound to practice the law.
They are not entitled to deny representation to Christians in the USA; just
as the Constitution forbids transgressing the peoples' right to free
exercise of religion by disallowing requiring involuntary servitude from
them.
Come back when you can actually understand what you read.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
It's your profession.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
Your central principle is "above all, John Wentzky", and very little else.
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported.
The reason you don't like me is because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny
bratty criminal fuckup such as yourself.
You just can't tolerate people who have lived better, more productive, more
talented, more cultured, better behaved lives than yourself.
What applications have you developed that are used by millions of people?
Your rebellious attitude towards those who you can't equal is something that
make you into the loser bitchbrained fool that you are.
and pathetic loser who can't even stay out of prison.
You *are* an idiot to assume such.
You are such an idiot that you asserted that I can not stay out of prison,
yet I am NOT in prison.
You were in jail for 38 weeks for violating the terms of your probation.
You lied, you fool.
See above, and the fact that you're facing a felony charge this time - which
carries with it the very real possibility of prison time.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
15 Jul 2007 12:33:46 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4699af9d$0$14131$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to punish
him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist?
When it comes to attorneys they are bound to practice the law.
They are not entitled to deny representation to Christians in the USA;
just
as the Constitution forbids transgressing the peoples' right to free
exercise of religion by disallowing requiring involuntary servitude from
them.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
Your central principle is "above all, John Wentzky", and very little else.
When will you recognize that you have no authority to transgress that
statement without becoming subject to violations of your 'above all PLH'
ideas.
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported.
The reason you don't like me is because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny
bratty criminal fuckup such as yourself.
You just can't tolerate people who have lived better, more productive,
more
talented, more cultured, better behaved lives than yourself.
What applications have you developed that are used by millions of people?
Another idea that limited achievement individuals are supposed to dictate
violable policy upon all persons.
Your rebellious attitude towards those who you can't equal is something
that
make you into the loser bitchbrained fool that you are.
and pathetic loser who can't even stay out of prison.
You *are* an idiot to assume such.
You are such an idiot that you asserted that I can not stay out of prison,
yet I am NOT in prison.
You were in jail for 38 weeks for violating the terms of your probation.
Wrong.
I didn't violate the terms of probation.
You lied, you fool.
See above, and the fact that you're facing a felony charge this time -
which
carries with it the very real possibility of prison time.
Hey, idiot.
How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts committed aganst
me do not cease and if amends are not made to me that you won't be happy
that you allied yourself against me.
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