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"swaddleitinsaliva" |
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13 Jul 2007 06:05:22 AM |
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JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
As the "morning-after' pill proves more popular than either its
proponents or its hypocritical, anti-science, conservative, right-wing
religionist critics could have imagined, U.S. women age 18 and older
are enjoying freer access to birth control and avoidance of unwanted
pregnancies.
21st century science!
Lacking rational verbal ammunition in opposition to what many are
calling "A New Freedom Of Birth," anti-abortionists and anti-adult-
stem-cell research-boobs doubtless are thinking --- if not saying
publicly -- "Do I have to go out and shoot these druggists who are
selling them devil-pills?"
Actually, out in the benighted Bible Belt and other lands of the
ignorant, including those of Pope-huggin' Catholics, many pharmacists
who believe in a wrathful and spiteful god and that the Bible preaches
against birth control and other foolish notions -- are refusing to
sell the pills.
But with Plan B out of the bottle, women have climbed another rung of
freedom!
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"Plan B Use Surges, And So Does Controversy"
By Rob Stein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 13, 2007; A01
The popularity of the morning-after pill Plan B has surged in the year
since the federal government approved the sale of the controversial
emergency contraceptive without a prescription.
Plan B sales have doubled since the Food and Drug Administration
authorized the switch for women 18 and older last August, rising from
about $40 million a year to what will probably be close to $80 million
for 2007, according to Barr Pharmaceuticals, which makes Plan B.
The sharp rise was hailed by women's health and family-planning
advocates, who say it illustrates the value of easing access to birth
control to help prevent unwanted pregnancies.
"This is exactly what we hoped would happen," said Susan F. Wood of
the George Washington University School of Public Health. As assistant
commissioner for women's health and director of the Office of Women's
Health at the FDA, Wood pushed for the switch. "What we're seeing is
women who needed this product now finally having access to it. For a
woman in that position, it can make a real difference in her life."
But conservative groups that fought the change say they are disturbed
by the surging use.
"This is very concerning," said Charmaine Yoest of the Family Research
Council, which is among several groups suing the FDA to reverse the
decision. "We think this is putting women's health at risk."
Plan B consists of higher doses of the hormones found in standard
birth control pills. Taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex, Plan B
has been shown to be highly effective at preventing pregnancies.
With strong support from women's health groups and family-planning
advocates, Barr asked the FDA to allow Plan B's sale without a
prescription so women would not have to overcome the obstacle of
getting a doctor's permission before they could get the drug.
Conservative members of Congress and advocacy groups strongly opposed
the move. They questioned the drug's safety and argued that easier
availability could encourage sexual activity and make it easier for
men to have sex with underage girls. They also maintain the pill can
cause the equivalent of an abortion.
The FDA delayed the move for three years despite endorsements by the
agency's outside advisers and internal reviewers, leading to intense
criticism that the agency was allowing politics to influence the
decision.
The Aug. 25 ruling that finally permitted the change was criticized
both by conservatives and by proponents, who were disappointed that
the agency limited the easier availability to women 18 and older. The
agency said there was too little safety data to approve the drug for
teenagers younger than 18. The requirement means women must show proof
of their age, which could make it more difficult for some women, such
as illegal immigrants, to obtain the pill.
"There's no medical basis for restricting teenagers' access to
emergency contraception," said Nancy Northup, president of the Center
for Reproductive Rights in New York, which is suing the FDA to remove
the age restriction. "This not about morality, it's about public
health and cutting America's alarmingly high teenage pregnancy rates."
Advocates attribute the increased use despite the limitation both to
the easier access and greater awareness of the drug's availability due
to educational campaigns by family-planning advocates and media
coverage of the controversy.
At the same time, Barr has been advertising Plan B in women's
magazines and trying to educate pharmacists about the drug. More than
54,000 pharmacists have completed an online training program about
Plan B.
"The impetus for us wanting Plan B to be made available over the
counter was to increase women's access to the product. Even with this
interim step, it appears that has enabled more women to have access,"
said Amy Niemann, Barr's senior vice president of proprietary
marketing. "That's the good news."
The company would not release the actual number of units being sold
for Plan B, which retails for about $50.
Sarah, 27, a school counselor who lives in the District, was glad she
did not need a prescription after the condom her boyfriend was using
came off last month.
"I just went to the pharmacy, and it was so easy," she said, asking
that her last name not be used. "It's a really good option."
Despite the change, Plan B remains the focus of intense debate,
particularly over whether pharmacists who oppose its use on moral
grounds should be required to provide it and whether Catholic
hospitals should be required to provide women with either information
about the drug or the medication itself.
Several states have passed laws either requiring pharmacists to
provide Plan B or protecting those who refuse. Fourteen states now
require hospitals to provide women with information about emergency
contraception or the medication. At least 19 other states are
considering legislation, and a bill was recently introduced in
Congress that would require pharmacies to make sure women get access
to all forms of birth control, including Plan B.
Surveys and anecdotal reports indicate that some pharmacies refuse to
stock the drug, some pharmacists refuse to provide it to women and
some pharmacy workers mistakenly believe only the pharmacist can
dispense the drug.
"Even though it's now available without a prescription, there are
still significant obstacles that customers are facing around the
country," said Ted Miller of NARAL Pro-Choice America, which has been
surveying pharmacies around the country. "The over-the-counter access
is not a cure-all."
Tashina Byrd, 24, said she was turned away by a pharmacist in
Springfield, Ohio, in January after her fiance's condom broke and she
tried to buy Plan B.
"He just laughed and told the attendant to tell me no one would give
it to me," Byrd said. "I was enraged and humiliated."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/12/AR2007071202146.html
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
15 Jul 2007 04:13:34 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to punish
him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist? When it comes to attorneys they are bound to practice the
law. They are not entitled to deny representation to Christians in the
USA; just as the Constitution forbids transgressing the peoples' right to
free exercise of religion by disallowing requiring involuntary servitude
from them.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
Your central principle is "above all, John Wentzky", and very little else.
When will you recognize that you have no authority to transgress that
statement without becoming subject to violations of your 'above all PLH'
ideas.
....which doesn't bother me at all, since I have no such ideas.
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported. The reason you don't like me is
because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny bratty criminal fuckup such as
yourself. You just can't tolerate people who have lived better, more
productive, more talented, more cultured, better behaved lives than
yourself.
What applications have you developed that are used by millions of people?
Another idea that limited achievement individuals are supposed to dictate
violable policy upon all persons.
One of the people you're ranting at has been involved in developing such an
application. (It's not me.)
[...]
and pathetic loser who can't even stay out of prison.
You *are* an idiot to assume such. You are such an idiot that you asserted
that I can not stay out of prison, yet I am NOT in prison.
You were in jail for 38 weeks for violating the terms of your probation.
Wrong. I didn't violate the terms of probation.
Really? The county court obviously doesn't agree with you - one of the
conditions of your plea bargain was that you attend conseling sessions on a
regular basis, which you blew off after a couple of months, and wound up
spending 38 weeks in jail as your "reward".
You lied, you fool.
See above, and the fact that you're facing a felony charge this time -
which carries with it the very real possibility of prison time.
Hey, idiot. How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts
committed aganst me do not cease and if amends are not made to me that you
won't be happy that you allied yourself against me.
You're wasting your time, since I'm not responsible for any alleged "criminal
acts" supposedly committed against you. I have no amends to make to you at
all. You have more than a few to make up for to your neighbors.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
15 Jul 2007 09:09:28 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szklkdiyxq7.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4699af9d$0$14131$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to punish
him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist? When it comes to attorneys they are bound to practice
the
law. They are not entitled to deny representation to Christians in the
USA; just as the Constitution forbids transgressing the peoples' right
to
free exercise of religion by disallowing requiring involuntary servitude
from them.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
Your central principle is "above all, John Wentzky", and very little
else.
When will you recognize that you have no authority to transgress that
statement without becoming subject to violations of your 'above all PLH'
ideas.
...which doesn't bother me at all, since I have no such ideas.
So, what makes you think that I want to be above all?
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported. The reason you don't like me
is
because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny bratty criminal fuckup such as
yourself. You just can't tolerate people who have lived better, more
productive, more talented, more cultured, better behaved lives than
yourself.
What applications have you developed that are used by millions of
people?
Another idea that limited achievement individuals are supposed to dictate
violable policy upon all persons.
One of the people you're ranting at has been involved in developing such
an
application. (It's not me.)
One achievement in one industry classification is supposed to make me think
that he/she knows what is proper for all society?
[...]
and pathetic loser who can't even stay out of prison.
You *are* an idiot to assume such. You are such an idiot that you
asserted
that I can not stay out of prison, yet I am NOT in prison.
You were in jail for 38 weeks for violating the terms of your probation.
Wrong. I didn't violate the terms of probation.
Really? The county court obviously doesn't agree with you - one of the
conditions of your plea bargain was that you attend conseling sessions on
a
regular basis, which you blew off after a couple of months, and wound up
spending 38 weeks in jail as your "reward".
When did I 'blow off' attending counseling sessions?
You lied, you fool.
See above, and the fact that you're facing a felony charge this time -
which carries with it the very real possibility of prison time.
Hey, idiot. How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts
committed aganst me do not cease and if amends are not made to me that you
won't be happy that you allied yourself against me.
You're wasting your time, since I'm not responsible for any alleged
"criminal
acts" supposedly committed against you.
But, you are awash in taking the bait that is laid to make persons look like
the offenders when it was the persons that were victimized who were
offended.
I have no amends to make to you at all.
Well, it seems that you will be content with knowing that you have been
believing erroneous information about me.
You have more than a few to make up for to your neighbors.
Name one.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
16 Jul 2007 12:02:50 AM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk644lpdz5.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szklkdiyxq7.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4699af9d$0$14131$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to punish
him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist? When it comes to attorneys they are bound to practice
the law. They are not entitled to deny representation to Christians in
the USA; just as the Constitution forbids transgressing the peoples'
right to free exercise of religion by disallowing requiring involuntary
servitude from them.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
Your central principle is "above all, John Wentzky", and very little
else.
When will you recognize that you have no authority to transgress that
statement without becoming subject to violations of your 'above all PLH'
ideas.
...which doesn't bother me at all, since I have no such ideas.
So, what makes you think that I want to be above all?
Nothing more than the way you've acted in this newsgroup since you first let
it be known that you were arrested one Monday night six months ago.
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported. The reason you don't like me is
because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny bratty criminal fuckup such as
yourself. You just can't tolerate people who have lived better, more
productive, more talented, more cultured, better behaved lives than
yourself.
What applications have you developed that are used by millions of
people?
Another idea that limited achievement individuals are supposed to dictate
violable policy upon all persons.
One of the people you're ranting at has been involved in developing such an
application. (It's not me.)
One achievement in one industry classification is supposed to make me think
that he/she knows what is proper for all society?
That's your defective interpretation. The person you're whining at on
occasion was involved in the development of an application that's used by a
lot of people who print documents. That's your one clue.
[...]
and pathetic loser who can't even stay out of prison.
You *are* an idiot to assume such. You are such an idiot that you
asserted that I can not stay out of prison, yet I am NOT in prison.
You were in jail for 38 weeks for violating the terms of your probation.
Wrong. I didn't violate the terms of probation.
Really? The county court obviously doesn't agree with you - one of the
conditions of your plea bargain was that you attend counseling sessions on
a regular basis, which you blew off after a couple of months, and wound up
spending 38 weeks in jail as your "reward".
When did I 'blow off' attending counseling sessions?
In 1997, idiot.
You lied, you fool.
See above, and the fact that you're facing a felony charge this time -
which carries with it the very real possibility of prison time.
Hey, idiot. How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts
committed aganst me do not cease and if amends are not made to me that you
won't be happy that you allied yourself against me.
You're wasting your time, since I'm not responsible for any alleged
"criminal acts" supposedly committed against you.
But, you are awash in taking the bait that is laid to make persons look like
the offenders when it was the persons that were victimized who were
offended.
Have someone sane (and literate) translate that into English.
I have no amends to make to you at all.
Well, it seems that you will be content with knowing that you have been
believing erroneous information about me.
You'd have to prove it was erroneous...and that's no more likely than a
blizzard here later today.
You have more than a few to make up for to your neighbors.
Name one.
Exposing yourself in public, and assaulting a police officer, for a start.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
16 Jul 2007 01:45:54 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk644lpdz5.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szklkdiyxq7.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4699af9d$0$14131$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going
to
really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would you
fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to
punish
him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist? When it comes to attorneys they are bound to practice
the law. They are not entitled to deny representation to Christians
in
the USA; just as the Constitution forbids transgressing the peoples'
right to free exercise of religion by disallowing requiring
involuntary
servitude from them.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
Your central principle is "above all, John Wentzky", and very little
else.
When will you recognize that you have no authority to transgress that
statement without becoming subject to violations of your 'above all PLH'
ideas.
...which doesn't bother me at all, since I have no such ideas.
So, what makes you think that I want to be above all?
Nothing more than the way you've acted in this newsgroup since you first
let
it be known that you were arrested one Monday night six months ago.
More than six months ago and I am a free man.
Can't you understand anything yet?
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported. The reason you don't like me
is
because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny bratty criminal fuckup such
as
yourself. You just can't tolerate people who have lived better, more
productive, more talented, more cultured, better behaved lives than
yourself.
What applications have you developed that are used by millions of
people?
Another idea that limited achievement individuals are supposed to
dictate
violable policy upon all persons.
One of the people you're ranting at has been involved in developing such
an
application. (It's not me.)
One achievement in one industry classification is supposed to make me
think
that he/she knows what is proper for all society?
That's your defective interpretation.
Not at all, riceboy.
The person you're whining at on
occasion was involved in the development of an application that's used by
a
lot of people who print documents. That's your one clue.
Whoopdeefuckingdooo.
I know about IS department budgets and how much wasted money is put into
them.
All you computer porno idiots are scurrying so much to cover your computer
porno asses that you can't keep your head on straight.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
16 Jul 2007 09:09:16 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkps2tvt39.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk644lpdz5.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szklkdiyxq7.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4699af9d$0$14131$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going
to really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would
you fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to
punish him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist? When it comes to attorneys they are bound to practice
the law. They are not entitled to deny representation to Christians in
the USA; just as the Constitution forbids transgressing the peoples'
right to free exercise of religion by disallowing requiring involuntary
servitude from them.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
Your central principle is "above all, John Wentzky", and very little
else.
When will you recognize that you have no authority to transgress that
statement without becoming subject to violations of your 'above all PLH'
ideas.
...which doesn't bother me at all, since I have no such ideas.
So, what makes you think that I want to be above all?
Nothing more than the way you've acted in this newsgroup since you first
let it be known that you were arrested one Monday night six months ago.
More than six months ago and I am a free man.
Only because your case hasn't yet been scheduled on the court docket. It
would be uncharacteristically wise of you to stay in your county until such
time as the trial starts.
Can't you understand anything yet?
More than you, since I've never been in a trial except as a juror (or in the
jury pool during the voir dire).
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported. The reason you don't like me
is because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny bratty criminal fuckup
such as yourself. You just can't tolerate people who have lived
better, more productive, more talented, more cultured, better behaved
lives than yourself.
What applications have you developed that are used by millions of
people?
Another idea that limited achievement individuals are supposed to dictate
violable policy upon all persons.
One of the people you're ranting at has been involved in developing such
an application. (It's not me.)
One achievement in one industry classification is supposed to make me think
that he/she knows what is proper for all society?
That's your defective interpretation.
Not at all, riceboy.
You don't know what I'm talking about. That much is obvious.
The person you're whining at on occasion was involved in the development of
an application that's used by a lot of people who print documents. That's
your one clue.
Whoopdeefuckingdooo.
I know about IS department budgets and how much wasted money is put into
them.
All you computer porno idiots are scurrying so much to cover your computer
porno asses that you can't keep your head on straight.
"Computer porn" would be putting your ugly picture up online. Fortunately,
there don't seem to be any pictures of you online. (Here's another clue for
you: avoid using a certain application that reads .pdf files.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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18 Jul 2007 12:42:16 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkps2tvt39.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk644lpdz5.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szklkdiyxq7.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4699af9d$0$14131$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not
going
to really work on your defense because he hates Christians,
would
you fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to
punish him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist? When it comes to attorneys they are bound to
practice
the law. They are not entitled to deny representation to Christians
in
the USA; just as the Constitution forbids transgressing the peoples'
right to free exercise of religion by disallowing requiring
involuntary
servitude from them.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
Your central principle is "above all, John Wentzky", and very little
else.
When will you recognize that you have no authority to transgress that
statement without becoming subject to violations of your 'above all
PLH'
ideas.
...which doesn't bother me at all, since I have no such ideas.
So, what makes you think that I want to be above all?
Nothing more than the way you've acted in this newsgroup since you first
let it be known that you were arrested one Monday night six months ago.
More than six months ago and I am a free man.
Only because your case hasn't yet been scheduled on the court docket. It
would be uncharacteristically wise of you to stay in your county until
such
time as the trial starts.
Meaning you are trying to notify all persons that you can about me in your
paranoia predator group?
Or that you know that you are without hope of going against me anywhere I
may go as a free man?
Is the fact that the past wrongs that were committed against me really
making you tremble when I am anywhere on earth yet?
LOL!
LOL!
This is so funny, isn't it?
Can't you understand anything yet?
More than you, since I've never been in a trial except as a juror (or in
the
jury pool during the voir dire).
You mean to say that you think you understand more than me as you act as if
I am someone who should live in fear as you evidence such paranoia towards
me?
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported. The reason you don't like
me
is because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny bratty criminal fuckup
such as yourself. You just can't tolerate people who have lived
better, more productive, more talented, more cultured, better
behaved
lives than yourself.
What applications have you developed that are used by millions of
people?
Another idea that limited achievement individuals are supposed to
dictate
violable policy upon all persons.
One of the people you're ranting at has been involved in developing
such
an application. (It's not me.)
One achievement in one industry classification is supposed to make me
think
that he/she knows what is proper for all society?
That's your defective interpretation.
Not at all, riceboy.
You don't know what I'm talking about. That much is obvious.
As if such specific knowledge suffices to rule the USA or any jurisdiction
within it?
The person you're whining at on occasion was involved in the development
of
an application that's used by a lot of people who print documents.
That's
your one clue.
Whoopdeefuckingdooo.
I know about IS department budgets and how much wasted money is put into
them.
All you computer porno idiots are scurrying so much to cover your
computer
porno asses that you can't keep your head on straight.
"Computer porn" would be putting your ugly picture up online.
Ok.
Well, since you think I am so desirable, you can slide on that one.
Fortunately, there don't seem to be any pictures of you online. (Here's
another clue for
you: avoid using a certain application that reads .pdf files.)
Adobe would indicate to me that the aforementioned person should or could be
in quite a comfortable status; which is no improper situation judging by the
free availability of the reader/ somewhatlimited composure they have.
I use it when the system calls for it, and not too recently the application
has shown itself to bog down surfing times.
The application is quite useful for form filling tasks and such.
HTML became less time-consuming; but I still use the app at times.
Forgot about going back to HTML editing.
Like there is a huge difference, right?
If you are going to get into CPU times and all that, then maybe we can
discuss the details.
Adobe still the winner for those whose proficiency isn't in html?
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkps2tvt39.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk644lpdz5.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
news:szklkdiyxq7.fsf@eris.io.com...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4699af9d$0$14131$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
John D. Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
message
Tell me, John.. your lawyer. If he tells you that he's not going
to really work on your defense because he hates Christians, would
you fire him?
The government would.
But you insist that the government should not have the right to
punish him for his beliefs.
The pharmacist? When it comes to attorneys they are bound to
practice the law. They are not entitled to deny representation to
Christians in the USA; just as the Constitution forbids transgressing
the peoples' right to free exercise of religion by disallowing
requiring involuntary servitude from them.
Obviously you're being a hypocrite again.
Not my job.
You really don't have any principles at all.
Ludicrous.
Your central principle is "above all, John Wentzky", and very little
else.
When will you recognize that you have no authority to transgress that
statement without becoming subject to violations of your 'above all
PLH' ideas.
...which doesn't bother me at all, since I have no such ideas.
So, what makes you think that I want to be above all?
Nothing more than the way you've acted in this newsgroup since you first
let it be known that you were arrested one Monday night six months ago.
More than six months ago and I am a free man.
Only because your case hasn't yet been scheduled on the court docket. It
would be uncharacteristically wise of you to stay in your county until such
time as the trial starts.
Meaning you are trying to notify all persons that you can about me in your
paranoia predator group?
Meaning that you're raving, as usual.
Or that you know that you are without hope of going against me anywhere I
may go as a free man?
You're going to be limited as to where you can go while you're awaiting trial.
Is the fact that the past wrongs that were committed against me really making
you tremble when I am anywhere on earth yet? LOL! LOL! This is so funny,
isn't it?
Funny to you, maybe. To me, it's sad.
Can't you understand anything yet?
More than you, since I've never been in a trial except as a juror (or in
the jury pool during the voir dire).
You mean to say that you think you understand more than me as you act as if
I am someone who should live in fear as you evidence such paranoia towards
me?
I won't be surprised if I understand a lot more than you do, but what do I
know? (Aside from enough to avoid a criminal record, and then some.)
You're just a spoiled brat
That is a lie that can not be supported. The reason you don't like
me is because I am NOT a spolied ignorant whiny bratty criminal
fuckup such as yourself. You just can't tolerate people who have
lived better, more productive, more talented, more cultured, better
behaved lives than yourself.
What applications have you developed that are used by millions of
people?
Another idea that limited achievement individuals are supposed to
dictate
violable policy upon all persons.
One of the people you're ranting at has been involved in developing
such an application. (It's not me.)
One achievement in one industry classification is supposed to make me
think that he/she knows what is proper for all society?
That's your defective interpretation.
Not at all, riceboy.
You don't know what I'm talking about. That much is obvious.
As if such specific knowledge suffices to rule the USA or any jurisdiction
within it?
I'd appreciate it if you'd develop a detectable attention span.
The person you're whining at on occasion was involved in the development
of an application that's used by a lot of people who print documents.
That's your one clue.
Whoopdeefuckingdooo.
I know about IS department budgets and how much wasted money is put into
them.
All you computer porno idiots are scurrying so much to cover your
computer
porno asses that you can't keep your head on straight.
"Computer porn" would be putting your ugly picture up online.
Ok. Well, since you think I am so desirable, you can slide on that one.
You're anything but desirable - unless it's for target practice with an AK-47.
Fortunately, there don't seem to be any pictures of you online. (Here's
another clue for you: avoid using a certain application that reads .pdf
files.)
Adobe would indicate to me that the aforementioned person should or could be
in quite a comfortable status; which is no improper situation judging by the
free availability of the reader/ somewhatlimited composure they have.
I use it when the system calls for it, and not too recently the application
has shown itself to bog down surfing times.
The application is quite useful for form filling tasks and such.
HTML became less time-consuming; but I still use the app at times.
Forgot about going back to HTML editing.
Like there is a huge difference, right?
If you are going to get into CPU times and all that, then maybe we can
discuss the details.
Adobe still the winner for those whose proficiency isn't in html?
Your only proficiency is in insanity. Live with that fact.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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15 Jul 2007 12:58:56 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:mTsmi.58022$Fo1.37311@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts committed
aganst me do not cease and if amends are not made to me that you won't
be happy that you allied yourself against me.
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-arrests/
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Anyone who has begun to think places some portion of the world in
jeopardy."
-John Dewey
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15 Jul 2007 01:06:43 PM |
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"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E706426FA3255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:mTsmi.58022$Fo1.37311@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts committed
aganst me do not cease and if amends are not made to me that you won't
be happy that you allied yourself against me.
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-arrests/
As far as is it me that the paper maligned, yes, it is.
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15 Jul 2007 01:14:02 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:jmtmi.58038$Fo1.4566@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E706426FA3255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:mTsmi.58022$Fo1.37311@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts committed
aganst me do not cease and if amends are not made to me that you
won't
be happy that you allied yourself against me.
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-
arrests/
As far as is it me that the paper maligned, yes, it is.
The paper simply reported an arrest, an absolutely factual account. You
were arrested. They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Encourage free schools and resolve that not one dollar appropriated for
their support shall be appropriated to the support of any sectarian
schools. Resolve that neither the state nor nation, nor both combined,
shall support institutions of learning other than those sufficient to
afford every child growing up in the land of opportunity of a good common
school education, unmixed with sectarian, pagan, or atheistical dogmas.
Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church and the
private school supported entirely by private contributions. Keep the
church and state forever separate.
-- Ulysses S. Grant
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15 Jul 2007 01:43:47 PM |
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"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E72F3C6D3C255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:jmtmi.58038$Fo1.4566@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E706426FA3255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:mTsmi.58022$Fo1.37311@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts committed
aganst me do not cease and if amends are not made to me that you
won't
be happy that you allied yourself against me.
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-
arrests/
As far as is it me that the paper maligned, yes, it is.
The paper simply reported an arrest,
It isn't as simple as that.
an absolutely factual account.
A lie.
You were arrested.
On 1-8.
I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
*****.
I do not allow persons who lie about me in such a maligning fashion to be
exempted from their duty to make amends to me.
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15 Jul 2007 06:19:18 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:1Vtmi.58049$Fo1.3365@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E72F3C6D3C255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:jmtmi.58038$Fo1.4566@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E706426FA3255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:mTsmi.58022$Fo1.37311@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts
committed aganst me do not cease and if amends are not made to me
that you
won't
be happy that you allied yourself against me.
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-
arrests/
As far as is it me that the paper maligned, yes, it is.
The paper simply reported an arrest,
It isn't as simple as that.
an absolutely factual account.
A lie.
You were arrested.
On 1-8.
I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
*****.
I do not allow persons who lie about me in such a maligning fashion to
be exempted from their duty to make amends to me.
Well, *****. Demand they print a retraction and a correction:
"We're sorry. We wrote that this dumbfuck John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125
Wentzky Circle, Anderson, was arrested for driving under the influence,
resisting arrest, assault on police on January 9th. We're fucked. It was
actually the 8th. We'll shut down all operations immediately."
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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15 Jul 2007 09:04:17 PM |
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"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996EBA9492D04askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:1Vtmi.58049$Fo1.3365@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E72F3C6D3C255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:jmtmi.58038$Fo1.4566@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E706426FA3255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:mTsmi.58022$Fo1.37311@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
How many times must you be told that if the criminal acts
committed aganst me do not cease and if amends are not made to me
that you
won't
be happy that you allied yourself against me.
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-
arrests/
As far as is it me that the paper maligned, yes, it is.
The paper simply reported an arrest,
It isn't as simple as that.
an absolutely factual account.
A lie.
You were arrested.
On 1-8.
I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
*****.
I do not allow persons who lie about me in such a maligning fashion to
be exempted from their duty to make amends to me.
Well, *****. Demand they print a retraction and a correction:
"We're sorry. We wrote that this dumbfuck John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125
Wentzky Circle, Anderson, was arrested for driving under the influence,
resisting arrest, assault on police on January 9th. We're fucked. It was
actually the 8th. We'll shut down all operations immediately."
Why shut down?
The Anderson Independent Mail is becoming informative reading material of
late.
It looks like something that could exapnd its readship.
I guess they will want me to start a new stock market here soon and tell the
NASD that if they resist we will just pull the anti-trust laws and stick
them in their faces.
Making rules requires that you be fair about them, and not act like some
monopolistic type who thinks that only New Yorkers can put any plans
together.
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15 Jul 2007 02:08:11 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:1Vtmi.58049$Fo1.3365@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-
arrests/
As far as is it me that the paper maligned, yes, it is.
The paper simply reported an arrest,
It isn't as simple as that.
Were you arrested? It's as simple as that.
an absolutely factual account.
A lie.
You were arrested.
On 1-8. I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
And that's your defense? That's the big lie? Ha!
They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
*****.
I do not allow persons who lie about me in such a maligning fashion to
be exempted from their duty to make amends to me.
They reported the fact that you were arrested, they reported the date
wrong. How should they make amends for that error? Report your arrest
AGAIN, correcting the date? Few people would want such "amends."
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
War Begins With Dubya
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15 Jul 2007 08:54:54 PM |
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"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E7C21A8B76255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:1Vtmi.58049$Fo1.3365@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-
arrests/
As far as is it me that the paper maligned, yes, it is.
The paper simply reported an arrest,
It isn't as simple as that.
Were you arrested? It's as simple as that.
The paper reported that I was arrested on 1-9.
That report is a lie.
an absolutely factual account.
A lie.
You were arrested.
On 1-8. I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
And that's your defense?
Defense?
Is charging persons who commited fraud against me defense?
That's the big lie? Ha!
You're laughing now that errors were committed by the ACSD and by the
newspaper?
They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
*****.
I do not allow persons who lie about me in such a maligning fashion to
be exempted from their duty to make amends to me.
They reported the fact that you were arrested,
Is anyone disputing the fact that I was assaulted and kidnapped by the ACSD
on January 8, 2007?
they reported the date wrong.
Good thing you agree that they committed the crime of publishing a false
report concerning me.
How should they make amends for that error? Report your arrest
AGAIN, correcting the date? Few people would want such "amends."
You have very little idea how much I enjoy the truth to be told rather than
to see such ineptitude in print.
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15 Jul 2007 09:33:16 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:QdAmi.12967$ca.9515@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
You have very little idea how much I enjoy the truth to be told rather
than to see such ineptitude in print.
Don't read your own posts then. You'll have a stroke when you see that
much lying incompetence in print.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Deep within the heart of every evangelist lies the wreck of a car
salesman."
-- H.L. Mencken
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16 Jul 2007 01:35:42 PM |
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"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996EC793E58E255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:QdAmi.12967$ca.9515@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
You have very little idea how much I enjoy the truth to be told rather
than to see such ineptitude in print.
Don't read your own posts then. You'll have a stroke when you see that
much lying incompetence in print.
Who is going to believe that anyone with the moniker Enkidu can comprehend
english?
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16 Jul 2007 09:01:09 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996EC793E58E255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:QdAmi.12967$ca.9515@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
You have very little idea how much I enjoy the truth to be told rather
than to see such ineptitude in print.
Don't read your own posts then. You'll have a stroke when you see that
much lying incompetence in print.
Who is going to believe that anyone with the moniker Enkidu can comprehend
english?
Anyone saner than you, which includes the vast majority of the human race.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| Title: Re: JESUS FREAKS Freak-Out As "Plan B" Use Surges ! |
15 Jul 2007 09:32:10 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:QdAmi.12967$ca.9515@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
They reported the fact that you were arrested,
Is anyone disputing the fact that I was assaulted and kidnapped by the
ACSD on January 8, 2007?
Yep. That I am.
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Deep within the heart of every evangelist lies the wreck of a car
salesman."
-- H.L. Mencken
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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16 Jul 2007 01:34:35 PM |
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"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996EC76478171255229@130.133.1.4...
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:QdAmi.12967$ca.9515@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
They reported the fact that you were arrested,
Is anyone disputing the fact that I was assaulted and kidnapped by the
ACSD on January 8, 2007?
Yep. That I am.
Losing side.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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15 Jul 2007 10:07:53 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:54:54 -0400 there was an Ancient "John D.
Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> who stoppeth one in
alt.atheism
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns996E7C21A8B76255229@130.133.1.4...
Were you arrested? It's as simple as that.
The paper reported that I was arrested on 1-9.
That report is a lie.
If you were booked into jail after midnight, the report would have
your arrest date as 1/9.
On 1-8. I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
And that's your defense?
Defense?
Is charging persons who commited fraud against me defense?
Have you filed charges yet? Opened a civil case? If not, why not?
That's the big lie? Ha!
You're laughing now that errors were committed by the ACSD and by the
newspaper?
I doubt it was an error, since you were drunk off your ***** and
probably didn't know what time it was.
They reported the fact that you were arrested,
Is anyone disputing the fact that I was assaulted and kidnapped by the ACSD
on January 8, 2007?
Everyone. You were arrested, not kidnapped, and when you resisted
arrest, you got the beating you deserved.
they reported the date wrong.
Good thing you agree that they committed the crime of publishing a false
report concerning me.
Cite the section of South Carolina law that you calim has been broken.
Or are you making up laws again?
How should they make amends for that error? Report your arrest
AGAIN, correcting the date? Few people would want such "amends."
You have very little idea how much I enjoy the truth to be told rather than
to see such ineptitude in print.
So your only complaint is the date.. you agree that the parts about
you being arrested for DUI, assaulting a police officer and resisting
arrest are accurate?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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16 Jul 2007 12:14:57 AM |
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On 15 Jul 2007 19:08:11 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote:
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:1Vtmi.58049$Fo1.3365@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-
arrests/
As far as is it me that the paper maligned, yes, it is.
The paper simply reported an arrest,
It isn't as simple as that.
Were you arrested? It's as simple as that.
an absolutely factual account.
A lie.
You were arrested.
On 1-8. I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
And that's your defense? That's the big lie? Ha!
They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
*****.
I do not allow persons who lie about me in such a maligning fashion to
be exempted from their duty to make amends to me.
They reported the fact that you were arrested, they reported the date
wrong. How should they make amends for that error? Report your arrest
AGAIN, correcting the date? Few people would want such "amends."
Looks to me like he is quibbling about a short time before midnight,
1-8, when he was pulled over, and a point, some time after midnight
1-9, when he was finally subdued and arrested.
Or perhaps later still 1-9, when he was sober enough to understand the
charges, and actually charged.
--
The spelling like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
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| User: "John D. Wentzky" |
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16 Jul 2007 01:37:40 PM |
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"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
news:lhvl939sa5q52nn0l0jikupa2ob8hgm4b3@4ax.com...
On 15 Jul 2007 19:08:11 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote:
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:1Vtmi.58049$Fo1.3365@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
Is this you, John?
John Darin Wentzky, 45, 125 Wentzky Circle, Anderson,
driving under the influence, resisting arrest,
assault on police (1-9)
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/jan/10/anderson-county-
arrests/
As far as is it me that the paper maligned, yes, it is.
The paper simply reported an arrest,
It isn't as simple as that.
Were you arrested? It's as simple as that.
an absolutely factual account.
A lie.
You were arrested.
On 1-8. I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
And that's your defense? That's the big lie? Ha!
They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
*****.
I do not allow persons who lie about me in such a maligning fashion to
be exempted from their duty to make amends to me.
They reported the fact that you were arrested, they reported the date
wrong. How should they make amends for that error? Report your arrest
AGAIN, correcting the date? Few people would want such "amends."
Looks to me like he is quibbling about a short time before midnight,
1-8, when he was pulled over, and a point, some time after midnight
1-9, when he was finally subdued and arrested.
You people are really shoiwng how you don't actually know much of anything
when you go out on a speculative limb whch leaves you hanging on a lie.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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16 Jul 2007 06:58:43 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 05:14:57 GMT there was an Ancient Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Looks to me like he is quibbling about a short time before midnight,
1-8, when he was pulled over, and a point, some time after midnight
1-9, when he was finally subdued and arrested.
Or perhaps later still 1-9, when he was sober enough to understand the
charges, and actually charged.
When I was in the training program to be a Correctional Officer years
ago (funding got cut two weeks before we got hired. grrrr) We were
taught that the date of arrest on our paperwork is the day the
upstanding citizen is dragged through the doors, usually cursing,
spitting, soaked in *****, and not able to stand for his mug shot.
If the actual apprehension takes place before midnight, that's nice.
But an arrest is not official until the fine upstanding citizen who
was "just standing there when the cops busted him for no reason" is
processed into the Wonderful World of Holding Cells.
Best story? I was doing rounds with a deputy when we smelled pot.
Really strong pot, not "I smoked it two hours ago" pot smell. We
check the tanks, and sure enough, a gut is sitting in a cell calmly
toking a joint. After removing it from his possession, and adding a
possession charge to his sheet, we asked WTF he was thinking, doing
weed *inside* the main jail.
"I heard it lowers your BAC, man."
Best part? He wasn't even DUI. He had been pulled over for blowing a
red light and the officer found a dozen bench warrants for failures to
appear.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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15 Jul 2007 03:36:08 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:43:47 -0400 there was an Ancient "John D.
Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> who stoppeth one in
alt.atheism
You were arrested.
On 1-8.
I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
John if you were booked after midnight, the date of arrest is the time
of your booking, not when the cop puts you in handcuffs and advises
you that you are under arrest. Since times in those cases can be
iffy, the official time of arrest is when the person in custody is
transfered to the jail or other controlled holding area for booking.
They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
*****.
I do not allow persons who lie about me in such a maligning fashion to be
exempted from their duty to make amends to me.
So, have you filed a lawsuit yet?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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15 Jul 2007 09:00:38 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:g51l9318kf1si8garfggn4s51jbs4ma5l4@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:43:47 -0400 there was an Ancient "John D.
Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> who stoppeth one in
alt.atheism
You were arrested.
On 1-8.
I was NOT arrested on 1-9.
John if you were booked after midnight, the date of arrest is the time
of your booking, not when the cop puts you in handcuffs and advises
you that you are under arrest.
Contradictory testimonuy such as that is enough to warrant a complete
dismissal of all charges levied against me by such wavering persons.
The ineptitude evidenced by such statements is grounds for retraining those
who are charged with ensuring compliance with the statutes that are written
for the people.
Allowing persons who commit such errors to continue to perform in such an
inept fashion is dishonorable.
Since times in those cases can be iffy, the official time of arrest is
when the person in custody is
transfered to the jail or other controlled holding area for booking.
Acting as if separate occurrences are identical is an egregious logical
fallacy.
They no more maligned you here than in the weather
report.
*****.
I do not allow persons who lie about me in such a maligning fashion to be
exempted from their duty to make amends to me.
So, have you filed a lawsuit yet?
As soon as the government here agrees to speak to me in private I am sure
that amends can be made and that many can be spared the tumultuous burden of
attempting to prosecute me for crimes that I did not commit.
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16 Jul 2007 10:09:45 PM |
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"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in
news:cjAmi.12970$ca.8381@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:g51l9318kf1si8garfggn4s51jbs4ma5l4@4ax.com...
So, have you filed a lawsuit yet?
As soon as the government here agrees to speak to me in private I am
sure that amends can be made and that many can be spared the
tumultuous burden of attempting to prosecute me for crimes that I did
not commit.
x -----------[really long distance]--------------------- y
You = x
Reality = y
This graph shows that the two of you are diametrically opposed.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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