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":::vera:::" |
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04 Apr 2004 09:53:32 AM |
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Jesus is the Way |
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
http://www.dayspring.com/movies/webmovies/allabout.html
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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04 Apr 2004 07:07:28 PM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| Title: Re: Jesus is the Way |
04 Apr 2004 10:19:49 PM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
What is your view on abortion?
Life or death?
::: vera :::
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Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus is the Way |
04 Apr 2004 11:43:35 PM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Like the "love" you demonstrate for anyone who doesn't agree with your
delusions?
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
When did you become a brain-transplant donor? Last time I looked, it wasn't
easy for guys like me to have an abortion. Are you sure you know what you're
asking?
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Idiot. I said take your preaching (and blatant stupidity on top of that) to a
religious newsgroup. You obviously can't even read the words of mine you
quoted. Religious doesn't necessarily equal Christian, since (whether you
agree or not) there *are* other religions in the world besides the one that's
served as a convenient excuse for you to destroy your late brain.
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, because that's *their* choice to make. I'm one of those people who
defends the woman's right to make her own choice -- preferably as informed a
choice as possible -- and what it turns out to be is her decision, because 1)
she's the one that's pregnant, not me, and 2) I'm not so pathologically
arrogant to assume I know what's best for a stranger better than s/he does
themselves.
What is your view on abortion?
Life or death?
It's the business of the woman who's pregnant, and may not necessarily want to
be -- and it's her decision to make, not mine...or yours, either, without her
express consent to the involvement of any third party. That's why I'm
pro-choice, a parent, and a grandparent.
Got any other idiocy I can disabuse you of?
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: ":::vera:::" |
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05 Apr 2004 01:25:04 AM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szk8yhbjaq0.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Like the "love" you demonstrate for anyone who doesn't agree with your
delusions?
I love them all. :-)
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
When did you become a brain-transplant donor? Last time I looked, it wasn't
easy for guys like me to have an abortion. Are you sure you know what you're
asking?
I mean, you are writing in an abortion group... You are a man...
What are you doing here?
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Idiot. I said take your preaching (and blatant stupidity on top of that) to a
religious newsgroup.
And you your belly to a beer drinking group?
Oh, sorry, I have to turn the cheek... I forgot that, for a second.
You obviously can't even read the words of mine you
quoted. Religious doesn't necessarily equal Christian, since (whether you
agree or not) there *are* other religions in the world besides the one that's
served as a convenient excuse for you to destroy your late brain.
That is right - the first thing I can accept that was written by you.
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, because that's *their* choice to make. I'm one of those people who
defends the woman's right to make her own choice
LOL
So, men tell those women what to do? There are hardly any women here...
And I am not even pregnant... Just Christian. :-)
You are speaking of rights? Which rights? To kill others? Or to take better care
before being pregnant?
-- preferably as informed a
choice as possible -- and what it turns out to be is her decision, because 1)
she's the one that's pregnant, not me, and
Right and wrong. You always forget there is another human inside her. Just
because it is not to be seen it does not mean it is not a human. What rights are you
speaking of? The rights of the unborn?
2) I'm not so pathologically
arrogant to assume I know what's best for a stranger better than s/he does
themselves.
Why are you writing here then? Pregnant?
What is your view on abortion?
Life or death?
It's the business of the woman who's pregnant, and may not necessarily want to
be
Wrong, wrong, wrong... There are many ways today NOT to become pregnant.
-- and it's her decision to make, not mine...or yours, either, without her
express consent to the involvement of any third party. That's why I'm
pro-choice, a parent, and a grandparent.
I cannot prevent women from abortion. I am just here for those who cannot
stand their guilt afterwards. Maybe they need help.
Got any other idiocy I can disabuse you of?
Yes, tell me why there are nearly only men writing in this group?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
Do not shoot me, Texas Ranger. I am just a simple Christian. :-)
Listen to some music instead...
::: vera :::
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Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus is the Way |
05 Apr 2004 09:40:04 AM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szk8yhbjaq0.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being
mercilessly ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Like the "love" you demonstrate for anyone who doesn't agree with your
delusions?
I love them all. :-)
....for a *very* personal definition of "love", anyway.
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
When did you become a brain-transplant donor? Last time I looked, it
wasn't easy for guys like me to have an abortion. Are you sure you know
what you're asking?
I mean, you are writing in an abortion group... You are a man...
What are you doing here?
The same thing I've been doing in this newsgroup for the past fifteen years --
putting my opinions in, in support of the woman's right to make her own choice
without having to worry about what *you* deem proper for her. You're the one
arrogant enough to think you know better than she does.
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Idiot. I said take your preaching (and blatant stupidity on top of that)
to a religious newsgroup.
And you your belly to a beer drinking group?
Not unless alt.shiner.blonde exists. (Some belly I've got -- I'm a meter and
84 tall and weigh a whopping 83 kilos.)
Oh, sorry, I have to turn the cheek... I forgot that, for a second.
Your ***** is as ugly, too. What's your point? (No, not the one atop your
head.)
You obviously can't even read the words of mine you quoted. Religious
doesn't necessarily equal Christian, since (whether you agree or not) there
*are* other religions in the world besides the one that's served as a
convenient excuse for you to destroy your late brain.
That is right - the first thing I can accept that was written by you.
You can accept it, reject it, or do whatever you like with it -- and your
acception or rejection is irrelevant.
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, because that's *their* choice to make. I'm one of those people who
defends the woman's right to make her own choice
LOL
You're far too easily amused, little girl.
So, men tell those women what to do? There are hardly any women here...
....that your painfully limited senses can detect. Just because you don't have
the brains to detect 'em doesn't mean they don't exist.
And I am not even pregnant... Just Christian. :-)
Trust me, that's hardly a secret.
You are speaking of rights? Which rights? To kill others? Or to take better
care before being pregnant?
The right to make her own decisions as regards reproductive choices -- without
having to beg the approval of clowns like you.
-- preferably as informed a choice as possible -- and what it turns out to
be is her decision, because 1) she's the one that's pregnant, not me, and
Right and wrong. You always forget there is another human inside her. Just
because it is not to be seen it does not mean it is not a human. What rights
are you speaking of? The rights of the unborn?
Can you be bothered to actually read what I've already said? Are you
congenitally stupid, or are you studying for a degree in it? (The unborn get
rights -- once they're born. That's only worked for a few millennia by now,
so if it isn't broken, why try and fix it?)
2) I'm not so pathologically
arrogant to assume I know what's best for a stranger better than s/he does
themselves.
Why are you writing here then? Pregnant?
Why are you whining here? Testing your little Turing simulation?
What is your view on abortion?
Life or death?
It's the business of the woman who's pregnant, and may not necessarily want
to be
Wrong, wrong, wrong... There are many ways today NOT to become pregnant.
So? None of them are 100% reliable. Accidents happen.
-- and it's her decision to make, not mine...or yours, either, without her
express consent to the involvement of any third party. That's why I'm
pro-choice, a parent, and a grandparent.
I cannot prevent women from abortion. I am just here for those who cannot
stand their guilt afterwards. Maybe they need help.
Maybe they're better off ignoring you, since you seem to think that you get to
decide who needs help.
Got any other idiocy I can disabuse you of?
Yes, tell me why there are nearly only men writing in this group?
Because you're too stupid to notice the women who participate here. That
would explain your problem.
Do not shoot me, Texas Ranger. I am just a simple Christian. :-)
I'm not a Ranger (either the baseball team, or the subdivision of the DPS).
This is not a place for simple people.
Listen to some music instead...
EL&P's "Romeo and Juliet", from Chaykovskiy...sounds about right.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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05 Apr 2004 06:09:47 AM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:25:04 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4qu43$2l7apq$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
I mean, you are writing in an abortion group... You are a man...
What are you doing here?
Are you saying a man cannot have an opinion on the Freedom of Choice?
Why?
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| User: "MyTwoAngels" |
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05 Apr 2004 04:59:35 AM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:25:04 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szk8yhbjaq0.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Like the "love" you demonstrate for anyone who doesn't agree with your
delusions?
I love them all. :-)
You love them so much you have to lie about what they do and support?
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
When did you become a brain-transplant donor? Last time I looked, it wasn't
easy for guys like me to have an abortion. Are you sure you know what you're
asking?
I mean, you are writing in an abortion group... You are a man...
What are you doing here?
He has an opinion. So does everybody else on this board. You wouldn't
tell a PRO-LIFE man to buzz, now would you?
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Idiot. I said take your preaching (and blatant stupidity on top of that) to a
religious newsgroup.
And you your belly to a beer drinking group?
Patrick doesn't even drink beer.
Oh, sorry, I have to turn the cheek... I forgot that, for a second.
Not surprising.
You obviously can't even read the words of mine you
quoted. Religious doesn't necessarily equal Christian, since (whether you
agree or not) there *are* other religions in the world besides the one that's
served as a convenient excuse for you to destroy your late brain.
That is right - the first thing I can accept that was written by you.
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, because that's *their* choice to make. I'm one of those people who
defends the woman's right to make her own choice
LOL
So, men tell those women what to do? There are hardly any women here...
You said earlier that there were NO men on this board. There are
several (bonafied) women who do post here. I have, at least, spoken to
a couple of them, telephonically.
And I am not even pregnant... Just Christian. :-)
You are speaking of rights? Which rights? To kill others? Or to take better care
before being pregnant?
There isn't a right to kill others. But people do have the right to
defend themselves (sometimes I wonder if that right exists in the
state in which reside, but that's another matter.)
-- preferably as informed a
choice as possible -- and what it turns out to be is her decision, because 1)
she's the one that's pregnant, not me, and
Right and wrong. You always forget there is another human inside her.
Nope. Human beings are born individuals only.
Just
because it is not to be seen it does not mean it is not a human. What rights are you
speaking of? The rights of the unborn?
The rights about the ONLY human being carrying the unborn.
2) I'm not so pathologically
arrogant to assume I know what's best for a stranger better than s/he does
themselves.
Why are you writing here then? Pregnant?
Because he's concerned about the well-being of women. He has a number
of women in his life, like his daughter, his wife, members of his
extended family, his friends and for general humanity that he is
thinking of, Vera, that he considers worthy and doesn't want schmucks
like to harm with your lies and hatred.
What is your view on abortion?
Life or death?
It's the business of the woman who's pregnant, and may not necessarily want to
be
Wrong, wrong, wrong... There are many ways today NOT to become pregnant.
But we're discussing about pregnancies that are already in progress.
And unfortunately, many unwanted pregnancies do occur.
-- and it's her decision to make, not mine...or yours, either, without her
express consent to the involvement of any third party. That's why I'm
pro-choice, a parent, and a grandparent.
I cannot prevent women from abortion. I am just here for those who cannot
stand their guilt afterwards. Maybe they need help.
Why would anybody want to consult with an idiot?
Got any other idiocy I can disabuse you of?
Yes, tell me why there are nearly only men writing in this group?
Why did you lie and say that NO women posted here. I bet you don't
have a problem with pro-Life men posting on this board!
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
Do not shoot me, Texas Ranger. I am just a simple Christian. :-)
Listen to some music instead...
::: vera :::
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05 Apr 2004 05:59:25 AM |
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"MyTwoAngels" <krisblakemy2babies@spamu.xmsg.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:fva270hfp9cvjlk6s804ctrkompenj13jt@4ax.com...
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:25:04 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szk8yhbjaq0.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Like the "love" you demonstrate for anyone who doesn't agree with your
delusions?
I love them all. :-)
You love them so much you have to lie about what they do and support?
What do I have to do? Please explain... I do not lie - why do you say such a thing
while not knowing me? You are lying about me, as it seems.
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
When did you become a brain-transplant donor? Last time I looked, it wasn't
easy for guys like me to have an abortion. Are you sure you know what you're
asking?
I mean, you are writing in an abortion group... You are a man...
What are you doing here?
He has an opinion. So does everybody else on this board. You wouldn't
tell a PRO-LIFE man to buzz, now would you?
I see. It is not a group to help people, but to fight for opinions. The same
as in all the other newsgroups, of course. That is boring. I thought there
were some chances for women to ask what to do in their trouble.
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Idiot. I said take your preaching (and blatant stupidity on top of that) to a
religious newsgroup.
And you your belly to a beer drinking group?
Patrick doesn't even drink beer.
Maybe because he is in the wrong group?
Oh, sorry, I have to turn the cheek... I forgot that, for a second.
Not surprising.
Oh - prejudice?
You obviously can't even read the words of mine you
quoted. Religious doesn't necessarily equal Christian, since (whether you
agree or not) there *are* other religions in the world besides the one that's
served as a convenient excuse for you to destroy your late brain.
That is right - the first thing I can accept that was written by you.
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, because that's *their* choice to make. I'm one of those people who
defends the woman's right to make her own choice
LOL
So, men tell those women what to do? There are hardly any women here...
You said earlier that there were NO men on this board. There are
several (bonafied) women who do post here. I have, at least, spoken to
a couple of them, telephonically.
Well, it is not really important, but I thought there were women posting
who have questions. You seem to have all your answers already.
And I am not even pregnant... Just Christian. :-)
I thought so. :-)
A three year lasting pregnancy would be a bit too long...
You are speaking of rights? Which rights? To kill others? Or to take better care
before being pregnant?
There isn't a right to kill others.
Good that you can accept that.
But people do have the right to
defend themselves
LOL
Agains an unborn? Is it dangerously armed?
(sometimes I wonder if that right exists in the
state in which reside, but that's another matter.)
You mean to do what you please is defending yourself... Hmmm...
Please explain.
-- preferably as informed a
choice as possible -- and what it turns out to be is her decision, because 1)
she's the one that's pregnant, not me, and
Right and wrong. You always forget there is another human inside her.
Nope. Human beings are born individuals only.
Who says so?
Just
because it is not to be seen it does not mean it is not a human. What rights are you
speaking of? The rights of the unborn?
The rights about the ONLY human being carrying the unborn.
Rather one-sided, do you not think so?
2) I'm not so pathologically
arrogant to assume I know what's best for a stranger better than s/he does
themselves.
Why are you writing here then? Pregnant?
Because he's concerned about the well-being of women.
He really thinks women are well if they can abort their babies?
It is just closing the eyes!
He has a number
of women in his life, like his daughter, his wife, members of his
extended family, his friends and for general humanity that he is
thinking of, Vera, that he considers worthy and doesn't want schmucks
like to harm with your lies and hatred.
Sorry? Lies? Which lies? Hatred? No, not at all. I love babies. :-)
Why should I hate anybody here? You have already accused me falsely,
but that is not a reason to hate you. Why should I? I also do not hate
pregnant women who do not know what to do. They have my
compassion. And even more after the act, because they will never get
rid of this guilt. Not against me. So I do not hate, I am just offering my
advice, and maybe a bridge to get along with all the burden of guilt they
suffer, and they will suffer. If you tell them differently, well, that might not be
the truth.
What is your view on abortion?
Life or death?
It's the business of the woman who's pregnant, and may not necessarily want to
be
Wrong, wrong, wrong... There are many ways today NOT to become pregnant.
But we're discussing about pregnancies that are already in progress.
And unfortunately, many unwanted pregnancies do occur.
Yes, strange... There can be so much done to prevent it.
-- and it's her decision to make, not mine...or yours, either, without her
express consent to the involvement of any third party. That's why I'm
pro-choice, a parent, and a grandparent.
I cannot prevent women from abortion. I am just here for those who cannot
stand their guilt afterwards. Maybe they need help.
Why would anybody want to consult with an idiot?
Again name calling... How do you feel when calling me this? Is it a great
feeling? Why do you not go to a group where they speak of the basics
of cummunication of adults? Did you not learn that at school, if not at
home? Politeness, I mean.
Got any other idiocy I can disabuse you of?
Yes, tell me why there are nearly only men writing in this group?
Why did you lie and say that NO women posted here. I bet you don't
have a problem with pro-Life men posting on this board!
I wanted to find out. I think it is weird that there are mainly men communicating
here. I wonder why.
Where are those pro-Life men? Or have you chased them all away by your
polite way of communication? Are you afraid some unborn could still be born
after people read in this group?
Okay...
Now there is another woman here - pro-life.
I am a mother, too.
The second most wonderful moment in my life was when I gave birth to my son.
He is thirteen now. It is so wonderful to have him there.
I feel pity with all women who are in a special situation, pregnant, no money, no
job, no husband, whatever...To feel pity with people who do these abortions
is much harder. I know a nurse who has stopped working at a hospital for that
reason. Well, she had to see the dead bodies all the time. Could you watch
them? Doctors, they have sworn to save lives... And people like you, sitting
here and waiting to encourage women to kill their babies. Unbelievable.
How many could you advise to abort by now?
Time to stop it.
Greetings,
::: vera :::
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Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
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05 Apr 2004 07:14:48 AM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:59:25 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"MyTwoAngels" <krisblakemy2babies@spamu.xmsg.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:fva270hfp9cvjlk6s804ctrkompenj13jt@4ax.com...
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:25:04 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szk8yhbjaq0.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Like the "love" you demonstrate for anyone who doesn't agree with your
delusions?
I love them all. :-)
You love them so much you have to lie about what they do and support?
What do I have to do? Please explain... I do not lie - why do you say such a thing
while not knowing me? You are lying about me, as it seems.
When you claimed that there were NO women in this newsgroup, for one,
without even taking the time to get any of the (boanfied) women who do
post here.
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
When did you become a brain-transplant donor? Last time I looked, it wasn't
easy for guys like me to have an abortion. Are you sure you know what you're
asking?
I mean, you are writing in an abortion group... You are a man...
What are you doing here?
He has an opinion. So does everybody else on this board. You wouldn't
tell a PRO-LIFE man to buzz, now would you?
I see. It is not a group to help people, but to fight for opinions.
Leave it to an anti-choicer to make up *****.
The same
as in all the other newsgroups, of course. That is boring. I thought there
were some chances for women to ask what to do in their trouble.
Are you a pregnant woman in trouble needing advice. If not, why are
you posting here? (Just giving you a dose of your own medicine.)
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Idiot. I said take your preaching (and blatant stupidity on top of that) to a
religious newsgroup.
And you your belly to a beer drinking group?
Patrick doesn't even drink beer.
Maybe because he is in the wrong group?
Do what, marie..oh, sorry, I meant "Vera."
Oh, sorry, I have to turn the cheek... I forgot that, for a second.
Not surprising.
Oh - prejudice?
No - idiocy. Yours.
You obviously can't even read the words of mine you
quoted. Religious doesn't necessarily equal Christian, since (whether you
agree or not) there *are* other religions in the world besides the one that's
served as a convenient excuse for you to destroy your late brain.
That is right - the first thing I can accept that was written by you.
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, because that's *their* choice to make. I'm one of those people who
defends the woman's right to make her own choice
LOL
So, men tell those women what to do? There are hardly any women here...
You said earlier that there were NO men on this board. There are
several (bonafied) women who do post here. I have, at least, spoken to
a couple of them, telephonically.
Well, it is not really important,
You're the one that impressed the importance of it, intially. Which is
it?
but I thought there were women posting
who have questions.
There also women who have opinions on the subject, too.
You seem to have all your answers already.
Some of my questions are left unanswered.
And I am not even pregnant... Just Christian. :-)
I thought so. :-)
You're responding to yourself.
A three year lasting pregnancy would be a bit too long...
Huh?
You are speaking of rights? Which rights? To kill others? Or to take better care
before being pregnant?
There isn't a right to kill others.
Good that you can accept that.
What's to accept anyway? And what exactly does it have to with
abortion?
But people do have the right to
defend themselves
LOL
Agains an unborn? Is it dangerously armed?
It remains in her body without her continued consent.
(sometimes I wonder if that right exists in the
state in which reside, but that's another matter.)
You mean to do what you please is defending yourself... Hmmm...
Please explain.
You have no idea what I mean, apparently. And there's no sense in
clarifying it with you, as it appears you don't even know what you're
talking about.
-- preferably as informed a
choice as possible -- and what it turns out to be is her decision, because 1)
she's the one that's pregnant, not me, and
Right and wrong. You always forget there is another human inside her.
Nope. Human beings are born individuals only.
Who says so?
Society.
Just
because it is not to be seen it does not mean it is not a human. What rights are you
speaking of? The rights of the unborn?
The rights about the ONLY human being carrying the unborn.
Rather one-sided, do you not think so?
It's a fact.
2) I'm not so pathologically
arrogant to assume I know what's best for a stranger better than s/he does
themselves.
Why are you writing here then? Pregnant?
Because he's concerned about the well-being of women.
He really thinks women are well if they can abort their babies?
Why do you think he supports abortion? Don't you comprehend a thing
you read?
It is just closing the eyes!
Your eyes are welded shut, dear.
He has a number
of women in his life, like his daughter, his wife, members of his
extended family, his friends and for general humanity that he is
thinking of, Vera, that he considers worthy and doesn't want schmucks
like to harm with your lies and hatred.
Sorry? Lies? Which lies? Hatred? No, not at all. I love babies. :-)
Why should I hate anybody here? You have already accused me falsely,
but that is not a reason to hate you. Why should I?
I wouldn't care if you did, frankly.
I also do not hate
pregnant women who do not know what to do. They have my
compassion. And even more after the act, because they will never get
rid of this guilt.
What guilt? Guilt of adopting out their baby? Giving birth to a baby
knowingly they couldn't take care of it? Having an abortion?
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What is your view on abortion?
Life or death?
It's the business of the woman who's pregnant, and may not necessarily want to
be
Wrong, wrong, wrong... There are many ways today NOT to become pregnant.
But we're discussing about pregnancies that are already in progress.
And unfortunately, many unwanted pregnancies do occur.
Yes, strange... There can be so much done to prevent it.
But that isn't a good to solution to the unwanted pregnancies ALREADY
in progress, don't you see?
-- and it's her decision to make, not mine...or yours, either, without her
express consent to the involvement of any third party. That's why I'm
pro-choice, a parent, and a grandparent.
I cannot prevent women from abortion. I am just here for those who cannot
stand their guilt afterwards. Maybe they need help.
Why would anybody want to consult with an idiot?
Again name calling... How do you feel when calling me this?
Justified.
Is it a great
feeling?
No, because I hate to think of anybody as an idiot. In fact, it angers
me to see an idiot rambling about something to which they know nothing
about.
Why do you not go to a group where they speak of the basics
of cummunication of adults? Did you not learn that at school, if not at
home? Politeness, I mean.
Why should I be polite to condescending, dishonest, ignorant
half-wits?
Got any other idiocy I can disabuse you of?
Yes, tell me why there are nearly only men writing in this group?
Why did you lie and say that NO women posted here. I bet you don't
have a problem with pro-Life men posting on this board!
I wanted to find out. I think it is weird that there are mainly men communicating
here. I wonder why.
You wonder about a lot of things that don't exist.
Where are those pro-Life men?
Alleged men.
Let's start with papaJack, Sam, Chris, JDYoung, Murdoc, amongst
others, who are meddlesome and stupid.
Or have you chased them all away by your
polite way of communication?
;-)
Are you afraid some unborn could still be born
after people read in this group?
I have given birth to two "unborn babies." Why would I be afraid of a
woman chosing birth as opposed to abortion?
Okay...
Now there is another woman here - pro-life.
There aren't too many Pro-Life women that post here. And the ones that
do are questionable. But I do believe that some have passed through
here that are truly women.
I am a mother, too.
Good. So am I and i am pro-Choice.
The second most wonderful moment in my life was when I gave birth to my son.
He is thirteen now. It is so wonderful to have him there.
The first most wonderful moments in my life were the birth of my
children (and my marriage).
I feel pity with all women who are in a special situation, pregnant, no money, no
job, no husband, whatever...
I feel even sorrier for those who are compelled to do what somebody
else wants them to do.
To feel pity with people who do these abortions
is much harder.
I feel angst when i hear about a mother along with her family (husband
or significant other included) broke, homeless and hopeless. I saw a
lot of that in S. Africa.
I know a nurse who has stopped working at a hospital for that
reason. Well, she had to see the dead bodies all the time. Could you watch
them? Doctors, they have sworn to save lives... And people like you, sitting
here and waiting to encourage women to kill their babies. Unbelievable.
***** you, liar. I don't sit here and tell women to murder their
children. Christ, I want you idiots to stay away from my children --
not murder them.
How many could you advise to abort by now?
NONE.
Time to stop it.
Time to stop lying.
Greetings,
::: vera :::
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MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@spamu.xmsg.com> writes:
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:25:04 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szk8yhbjaq0.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being
mercilessly ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Like the "love" you demonstrate for anyone who doesn't agree with your
delusions?
I love them all. :-)
You love them so much you have to lie about what they do and support?
She doesn't have to. She chooses to. (In other words, she's a goalie, and
she's not in the same area code as the crease -- so she's fair game.)
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
When did you become a brain-transplant donor? Last time I looked, it
wasn't easy for guys like me to have an abortion. Are you sure you know
what you're asking?
I mean, you are writing in an abortion group... You are a man...
What are you doing here?
He has an opinion. So does everybody else on this board. You wouldn't
tell a PRO-LIFE man to buzz, now would you?
Of course not. (Think of her as the German version of Ditzy.)
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Idiot. I said take your preaching (and blatant stupidity on top of that)
to a religious newsgroup.
And you your belly to a beer drinking group?
Patrick doesn't even drink beer.
That's news to me. :-) (I drink one or two a year, whether I need them or
not. A sixer of Shiner Bock would last me to some time in 2007, if bought
today.)
Oh, sorry, I have to turn the cheek... I forgot that, for a second.
Not surprising.
She seems to "forget" at the most convenient times.
You obviously can't even read the words of mine you quoted. Religious
doesn't necessarily equal Christian, since (whether you agree or not)
there *are* other religions in the world besides the one that's served as
a convenient excuse for you to destroy your late brain.
That is right - the first thing I can accept that was written by you.
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, because that's *their* choice to make. I'm one of those people who
defends the woman's right to make her own choice
LOL
So, men tell those women what to do? There are hardly any women here...
You said earlier that there were NO men on this board. There are
several (bonafied) women who do post here. I have, at least, spoken to
a couple of them, telephonically.
Small world, innit? So have I. ;-)
And I am not even pregnant... Just Christian. :-)
You are speaking of rights? Which rights? To kill others? Or to take better
care before being pregnant?
There isn't a right to kill others. But people do have the right to defend
themselves (sometimes I wonder if that right exists in the state in which
reside, but that's another matter.)
Don't expect her to figure out that there's no "other", legally speaking,
until it's born and alive.
-- preferably as informed a choice as possible -- and what it turns out to
be is her decision, because 1) she's the one that's pregnant, not me, and
Right and wrong. You always forget there is another human inside her.
Nope. Human beings are born individuals only.
The vast majority of the ones I deal with fit that description. :-)
Just because it is not to be seen it does not mean it is not a human. What
rights are you speaking of? The rights of the unborn?
The rights about the ONLY human being carrying the unborn.
....the one that the average anti-abort crank is unable to see under any
circumstances.
2) I'm not so pathologically arrogant to assume I know what's best for a
stranger better than s/he does themselves.
Why are you writing here then? Pregnant?
Because he's concerned about the well-being of women. He has a number
of women in his life, like his daughter, his wife, members of his
extended family, his friends and for general humanity that he is
thinking of, Vera, that he considers worthy and doesn't want schmucks
like to harm with your lies and hatred.
Vera should be thankful she hasn't tried to push her scam on any of the women
in my life -- she'd be hurting quite a bit, if she had. (It's no one's fault
but hers if she ever decides to annoy someone from Bloody Harlan.)
What is your view on abortion?
Life or death?
It's the business of the woman who's pregnant, and may not necessarily
want to be
Wrong, wrong, wrong... There are many ways today NOT to become pregnant.
But we're discussing about pregnancies that are already in progress.
And unfortunately, many unwanted pregnancies do occur.
....because, as I pointed out, none of those ways are 100% effective.
Accidents happen. (It goes with the territory of being human.)
-- and it's her decision to make, not mine...or yours, either, without her
express consent to the involvement of any third party. That's why I'm
pro-choice, a parent, and a grandparent.
I cannot prevent women from abortion. I am just here for those who cannot
stand their guilt afterwards. Maybe they need help.
Why would anybody want to consult with an idiot?
She'd certainly be attractive to other idiots. (Could Kornbluth call 'em, or
what?)
Got any other idiocy I can disabuse you of?
Yes, tell me why there are nearly only men writing in this group?
Why did you lie and say that NO women posted here. I bet you don't
have a problem with pro-Life men posting on this board!
You're not supposed to point that out to her. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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05 Apr 2004 10:25:38 AM |
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On 05 Apr 2004 09:59:54 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@spamu.xmsg.com> writes:
[...]
Patrick doesn't even drink beer.
That's news to me. :-) (I drink one or two a year, whether I need them or
not. A sixer of Shiner Bock would last me to some time in 2007, if bought
today.)
That's right...you did tell me this on the telephone.
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05 Apr 2004 10:47:39 AM |
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MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@spamu.xmsg.com> writes:
On 05 Apr 2004 09:59:54 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@spamu.xmsg.com> writes:
[...]
Patrick doesn't even drink beer.
That's news to me. :-) (I drink one or two a year, whether I need them or
not. A sixer of Shiner Bock would last me to some time in 2007, if bought
today.)
That's right...you did tell me this on the telephone.
Of course, "Vera" *could* drive me to drink...;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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05 Apr 2004 06:07:28 AM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:19:49 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4qj8p$2k7hlt$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Which god would that be? Please include your proof.
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
I doubt 'Patrick' has had one lately.
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
Telling women about their rights.
What is your view on abortion?
There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion - she wants
it.
There is only one reason for a woman not to get an abortion - she
doesn't want it.
Life or death?
What difference does that make?
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05 Apr 2004 04:50:21 AM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:19:49 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Do what?
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Huh?
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, Vera. Here's here to stop idiots like you from demanding women
to do what with their pregnancies and resulting children.
What is your view on abortion?
I'm Pro-Choice; I support the right of women to decide their own
course of pregnancy (childbirth or abortion).
Life or death?
Not the issue here.
::: vera :::
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05 Apr 2004 05:14:40 AM |
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"MyTwoAngels" <krisblakemy2babies@spamu.xmsg.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:aka270dkphlial0iq70vaj9aatj1fap5do@4ax.com...
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:19:49 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Do what?
Fall in love with God.
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Huh?
Did I ask you?
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, Vera. Here's here to stop idiots like you from demanding women
to do what with their pregnancies and resulting children.
You are not very convincing when calling words. :-) It seems you do not have
other arguments. What about the rights of the unborn`? Do they not have rights?
Why not? What makes them so different from you?
What is your view on abortion?
I'm Pro-Choice; I support the right of women to decide their own
course of pregnancy (childbirth or abortion).
There are TWO - it is NOT the woman alone...
Life or death?
Not the issue here.
LOL
What do you think IS an abortion? It IS the decision between life and death for the
unborn.
Pro-Choice is nonsense anyway, because women will abort, if they have a choice or
not.They always have. So my concern is more for better conditions for women who
want to get the babies, more support by the MEN (the "fathers"), and more support
by society.
Why do the woman not give their children free for adoption ? Is nine months too long
to save the life of one's own child? I am sure there is a list of people in America (as in Germany)
who are waiting for such babies. Why not give them a chance? Nine months is not too
much for a life...
Greetings,
and thanks for the hearty welcome,
::: vera :::
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Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
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05 Apr 2004 05:34:18 AM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:14:40 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"MyTwoAngels" <krisblakemy2babies@spamu.xmsg.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:aka270dkphlial0iq70vaj9aatj1fap5do@4ax.com...
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:19:49 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:szky8pb2sov.fsf@fnord.io.com...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> writes:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
Take your preaching to a religious newsgroup, or live with being mercilessly
ridiculed.
Maybe. But those who have ears will listen. Those who God will
touch Himself... They will have no chance. :-) His love is overwhelming.
Do what?
Fall in love with God.
God would want me to love my family, first.
Okay, one question: When did you have your last abortion?
Because you have sent me to a Christian group...
Huh?
Did I ask you?
No, but you did post in a public forum and that leaves your posts to
the question of anybody who reads them, Vera.
What are you doing here? Telling women what to do with their babies?
No, Vera. Here's here to stop idiots like you from demanding women
to do what with their pregnancies and resulting children.
You are not very convincing when calling words. :-)
I couldn't care less.
It seems you do not have
other arguments. What about the rights of the unborn`? Do they not have rights?
Why not? What makes them so different from you?
I am the human being that carries them. And by the way, I have carried
two pregnancies to term giving birth to two, beautiful human being
babies, whom I cannot dream of living without, Vera.
What is your view on abortion?
I'm Pro-Choice; I support the right of women to decide their own
course of pregnancy (childbirth or abortion).
There are TWO - it is NOT the woman alone...
If she chooses to include her spouse or significant other in her
decision making process, so be it. Other than that, it's her pregnancy
and it's happening to her body. (And before you froth at the mouth,
I'd never make a decision with a pregnancy my husband and I created
together, without his input.)
Life or death?
Not the issue here.
LOL
What do you think IS an abortion? It IS the decision between life and death for the
unborn.
No, it's a procedure which ends pregnancy. It is not intented to kill
anything (even though that a non-viable embryo/fetus dies as a result
of the procedure).
Pro-Choice is nonsense anyway, because women will abort, if they have a choice or
not.
Pro-Choice is not limited to just chosing abortion. A woman may also
decide to stay pregnant, and I would not want to see THAT choice taken
away from her, either.
hey always have. So my concern is more for better conditions for women who
want to get the babies,
Through adoption or giving birth to them? I am not understanding what
you mean by "For women who want to get the babies." Please clarify
this for me? I'd appreciate it!
more support by the MEN (the "fathers"),
There are men who didn't agree to be fathers who are compelled to
support children they had no intention of having in the first place.
Why keep these men around?
and more support
by society.
LOL! the same people that whine about women having abortions also
whine that it musn't be THEIR tax money used to support these babies
they claim to give a ***** about.
Why do the woman not give their children free for adoption ?
Since when is anybody entitled to any of my children?
Is nine months too long
to save the life of one's own child?
For some women, it's their own life that may shorten because of the
pregnancy. Pregnancy is not a breeze, or free, or this wonderful
experience for a number of women.
I am sure there is a list of people in America (as in Germany)
who are waiting for such babies. Why not give them a chance? Nine months is not too
much for a life...
My children do not belong to anybody else. Any child born from my body
will be raised by me -- not complete strangers.
Greetings,
and thanks for the hearty welcome,
I thought you were Dutch, for some reason. :-)
::: vera :::
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04 Apr 2004 12:59:59 PM |
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:::vera::: wrote:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
http://www.dayspring.com/movies/webmovies/allabout.html
::: vera :::
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I'd rather ask Santa Claus. At least when I was a kid, there was a
tangible response.
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the clergyman." [Victor Hugo]
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"Tink" <kjgrish@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HPOdnRuGwaW_0O3dRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
:::vera::: wrote:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
http://www.dayspring.com/movies/webmovies/allabout.html
::: vera :::
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I'd rather ask Santa Claus. At least when I was a kid, there was a
tangible response.
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the clergyman." [Victor Hugo]
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
Have you never found a difference in life and death? I mean, some
material seems to live, the other does not. What IS the difference?
Can you give life to something? Explain to me what life is, please.
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Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
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05 Apr 2004 06:04:14 AM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:14:53 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4qivh$2kvass$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
"Tink" <kjgrish@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HPOdnRuGwaW_0O3dRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
:::vera::: wrote:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
http://www.dayspring.com/movies/webmovies/allabout.html
::: vera :::
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I'd rather ask Santa Claus. At least when I was a kid, there was a
tangible response.
--
"There is in every village a torch - the teacher; and an extinguisher-
the clergyman." [Victor Hugo]
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
Have you never found a difference in life and death? I mean, some
material seems to live, the other does not. What IS the difference?
If it's alive you must catch it. If it is dead you can eat it.
In general terms.
Can you give life to something?
Not yet. Who knows what will happen in the future?
Explain to me what life is, please.
An electro-chemical reaction with certain characteristics. Not
reproducible in the lab at the moment but there is no reason to
believe this will always be true.
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04 Apr 2004 03:00:35 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 13:59:59 -0400, Tink <kjgrish@comcast.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <HPOdnRuGwaW_0O3dRVn-iQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
:::vera::: wrote:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
http://www.dayspring.com/movies/webmovies/allabout.html
::: vera :::
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I'd rather ask Santa Claus. At least when I was a kid, there was a
tangible response.
The Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy must fit in there somewhere.
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04 Apr 2004 10:15:59 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:s9q07093dmorth54md4fbd2tgv960nlb0q@4ax.com...
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 13:59:59 -0400, Tink <kjgrish@comcast.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <HPOdnRuGwaW_0O3dRVn-iQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
:::vera::: wrote:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
http://www.dayspring.com/movies/webmovies/allabout.html
::: vera :::
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I'd rather ask Santa Claus. At least when I was a kid, there was a
tangible response.
The Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy must fit in there somewhere.
For you - or what are you going to do over Eastern? Do you
work?
::: vera :::
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Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
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05 Apr 2004 06:00:19 AM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:15:59 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4qj1k$2j1qhf$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:s9q07093dmorth54md4fbd2tgv960nlb0q@4ax.com...
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 13:59:59 -0400, Tink <kjgrish@comcast.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <HPOdnRuGwaW_0O3dRVn-iQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
:::vera::: wrote:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
http://www.dayspring.com/movies/webmovies/allabout.html
::: vera :::
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I'd rather ask Santa Claus. At least when I was a kid, there was a
tangible response.
The Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy must fit in there somewhere.
For you - or what are you going to do over Eastern? Do you
work?
I suppose you mean easter. I am retired, but when I did work I could
ignore it since it is on a Sunday and I did not normally work
weekends. The stores were open as usual so it was just another
weekend with another reason for a sale.
Is there a point to your question?
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04 Apr 2004 11:45:30 AM |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 16:53:32 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4p7hg$2lq375$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
I would sooner ask a rock. Same response.
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04 Apr 2004 12:03:25 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:dse070pin8l4kt4sgec6e9c8cu76qbr801@4ax.com...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 16:53:32 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4p7hg$2lq375$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
I would sooner ask a rock. Same response.
You can only ask Jesus when you meet him.
Do you really want that? Your answer suggests not.
I get answers.
God speaks to those who know they need His help, who know
they cannot do it alone. He always offers them a helping hand.
Jesus is the Way... The only way to life.
I do not accuse people in this group for their ideas. I think they
will feel so much guilt if they really killed their own children. They will
never know what they would have looked like, they can never see them
smile or laugh, or play with the neighbour's children.
Women who think of abortion are really in a pitiful situation. They need
help, and - at least in Germany - it is still difficult to grow up a child alone,
I am a mother who raises her child alone, so I know about that. Nevertheless
abortion cannot be a silution! ALL of us are responsible for letting down
the women who can see no different choice.
Go for LIFE!
Many sOnny spring greetings from Germany,
::: vera :::
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04 Apr 2004 02:59:43 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 19:03:25 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4pf52$2iirtc$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:dse070pin8l4kt4sgec6e9c8cu76qbr801@4ax.com...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 16:53:32 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4p7hg$2lq375$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
You do not know what to do? Ask Jesus.
I would sooner ask a rock. Same response.
You can only ask Jesus when you meet him.
Do you really want that? Your answer suggests not.
I have seen no evidence any such person ever existed.
I get answers.
I am sure you do.
God speaks to those who know they need His help, who know
they cannot do it alone. He always offers them a helping hand.
Jesus is the Way... The only way to life.
Prove any of that.
I do not accuse people in this group for their ideas.
People are seldom accused for their ideas. Ridiculed and persecuted
perhaps, but seldom accused.
I think they
will feel so much guilt if they really killed their own children.
Most people would.
They will
never know what they would have looked like, they can never see them
smile or laugh, or play with the neighbour's children.
Women who think of abortion are really in a pitiful situation.
Abortion has nothing to do with killing children. It terminates a
pregnancy and prevents a child from being born.
Every kind of birth control has the same result - no child.
They need
help, and - at least in Germany - it is still difficult to grow up a child alone,
I am a mother who raises her child alone, so I know about that.
I was a single parent.
Nevertheless
abortion cannot be a silution!
Of course it can.
ALL of us are responsible for letting down
the women who can see no different choice.
There is only one other choice - complete the pregnancy and give
birth. Nothing else is possible.
Go for LIFE!
Whatever. That is a pretty useless comment.
Many sOnny spring greetings from Germany,
::: vera :::
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