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"Gactimus" |
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13 Oct 2004 01:50:58 PM |
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John Edwards' Outreach To The Disabled |
The claim made by John Edwards this week in Iowa that "We will stop
juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating
diseases... When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve
are going get up out of that wheelchair and walk again," was described by
Charles Krauthammer (who is in a wheelchair) as the worst demagoguery in
decades.
Maybe Edwards' previous outreach to the disabled, which consisted of
patting a woman in a wheelchair on the head, just didn't wrap up that
demographic, so he had to promise them something to be delivered in John
Kerry's term as President, that modern medicine has been unable to deliver
after decades of trying. Edwards' Iowa statement should be brought up in
tonight's debate and President Bush should clear up the misconception
(perpetrated by the Democrats) that he has banned stem cell research. Bush
needs to make it clear that he not only has not banned it, but that he is
the first President ever to federally fund embyronic stem cell research.
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| User: "-" |
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| Title: Re: John Edwards' Outreach To The Disabled |
13 Oct 2004 02:17:10 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
The claim made by John Edwards this week in Iowa that "We
will stop juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other
debilitating diseases... When John Kerry is president, people like
Christopher Reeve are going get up out of that wheelchair and
walk again," was described by Charles Krauthammer (who is in
a wheelchair) as the worst demagoguery in decades.
Agreed that it's demagoguery, which is why I am voting
for a third-party ballot, however "Jesus is my favorite philospher"
was a demagoguery far worse than bringing Christopher Reeve
back to life.
Maybe Edwards' previous outreach to the disabled, which consisted
of patting a woman in a wheelchair on the head, just didn't wrap up
that demographic, so he had to promise them something to be delivered
in John Kerry's term as President, that modern medicine has been
unable to deliver after decades of trying. Edwards' Iowa statement
should be brought up in tonight's debate and President Bush should
clear up the misconception (perpetrated by the Democrats) that he
has banned stem cell research. Bush needs to make it clear that he
not only has not banned it, but that he is the first President ever
to federally fund embyronic stem cell research.
It turns out that higher incidence of cancer risk has been
associated with use of stem cells. Perhaps also with diminished
capacity for immune system function, such as Christopher Reeve.
- regards
- jb
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| User: "Server 13" |
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| Title: Re: John Edwards' Outreach To The Disabled |
13 Oct 2004 04:32:43 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
The claim made by John Edwards this week in Iowa that "We
will stop juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other
debilitating diseases... When John Kerry is president, people like
Christopher Reeve are going get up out of that wheelchair and
walk again," was described by Charles Krauthammer (who is in
a wheelchair) as the worst demagoguery in decades.
Agreed that it's demagoguery, which is why I am voting
for a third-party ballot, however "Jesus is my favorite philospher"
was a demagoguery far worse than bringing Christopher Reeve
back to life.
Maybe Edwards' previous outreach to the disabled, which consisted
of patting a woman in a wheelchair on the head, just didn't wrap up
that demographic, so he had to promise them something to be delivered
in John Kerry's term as President, that modern medicine has been
unable to deliver after decades of trying. Edwards' Iowa statement
should be brought up in tonight's debate and President Bush should
clear up the misconception (perpetrated by the Democrats) that he
has banned stem cell research. Bush needs to make it clear that he
not only has not banned it, but that he is the first President ever
to federally fund embyronic stem cell research.
It turns out that higher incidence of cancer risk has been
associated with use of stem cells. Perhaps also with diminished
capacity for immune system function, such as Christopher Reeve.
I'd be interested in any info you might have on this. Of course, it should
be noted that the antirejection drugs I'm on (and won't need if embryonic stem
cell research continues) have _both_ effects to a very large degree already.
BTW, the cancer thing is a result of the immune thing.
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| User: "Server 13" |
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| Title: Re: John Edwards' Outreach To The Disabled |
13 Oct 2004 04:29:28 PM |
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Gactimus wrote:
The claim made by John Edwards this week in Iowa that "We will stop
juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating
diseases... When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve
are going get up out of that wheelchair and walk again," was described by
Charles Krauthammer (who is in a wheelchair) as the worst demagoguery in
decades.
Poor lying Charles Krauthammer. What's his degree in, again? lol
Notice that the words that make Edwards correct have been snipped from the
middle of the quote.
Maybe Edwards' previous outreach to the disabled, which consisted of
patting a woman in a wheelchair on the head, just didn't wrap up that
demographic, so he had to promise them something to be delivered in John
Kerry's term as President, that modern medicine has been unable to deliver
after decades of trying. Edwards' Iowa statement should be brought up in
tonight's debate and President Bush should clear up the misconception
(perpetrated by the Democrats) that he has banned stem cell research. Bush
needs to make it clear that he not only has not banned it, but that he is
the first President ever to federally fund embyronic stem cell research.
... Intentionally on cell lines that are trash. Then he uses respect for
life as an excuse not to use blastocysts that are headed for the trash already. lol
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| User: "buzz off" |
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| Title: Re: John Edwards' Outreach To The Disabled |
14 Oct 2004 09:10:23 PM |
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In article <ckk72b$nfh$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>, Server 13 <c-bee1@uiuc.edu>
wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
The claim made by John Edwards this week in Iowa that "We will stop
juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating
diseases... When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve
are going get up out of that wheelchair and walk again," was described by
Charles Krauthammer (who is in a wheelchair) as the worst demagoguery in
decades.
Poor lying Charles Krauthammer. What's his degree in, again? lol
Notice that the words that make Edwards correct have been snipped from the
middle of the quote.
Maybe Edwards' previous outreach to the disabled, which consisted of
patting a woman in a wheelchair on the head, just didn't wrap up that
demographic, so he had to promise them something to be delivered in John
Kerry's term as President, that modern medicine has been unable to deliver
after decades of trying. Edwards' Iowa statement should be brought up in
tonight's debate and President Bush should clear up the misconception
(perpetrated by the Democrats) that he has banned stem cell research. Bush
needs to make it clear that he not only has not banned it, but that he is
the first President ever to federally fund embyronic stem cell research.
... Intentionally on cell lines that are trash. Then he uses respect for
life as an excuse not to use blastocysts that are headed for the trash already. lol
And it's not all staid science. Irv Weissman, director of Stanford
University's Institute for Cancer and Stem Cell Biology, compares the
Bush administration's embryonic-stem-cell plan to Stalin's ban on
Darwinian science. His frustration is palpable throughout the talk.
"I can't attract fellows into going into a field that might be
criminalized," Weissman said.
The UC broadcast will give many viewers their first first-hand look at
the frustration of scientists who want to pursue embryonic-stem-cell
research and therapeutic cloning as a potential route to treatments for
spinal cord injuries, diabetes, Alzheimer's disease and other ailments.
http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,65337,00.html?tw=wn_3techhead
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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| Title: Re: John Edwards' Outreach To The Disabled |
13 Oct 2004 07:40:13 PM |
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Server 13 <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in news:ckk72b$nfh$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
Gactimus wrote:
The claim made by John Edwards this week in Iowa that "We will stop
juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating
diseases... When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve
are going get up out of that wheelchair and walk again," was described
by Charles Krauthammer (who is in a wheelchair) as the worst
demagoguery in decades.
Poor lying Charles Krauthammer. What's his degree in, again? lol
I think Edwards is pandering to the dead vote, a loyal Democratic
constituency.
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| User: "Geo" |
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| Title: Re: John Edwards' Outreach To The Disabled |
14 Oct 2004 08:17:06 AM |
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Server 13 wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
The claim made by John Edwards this week in Iowa that "We will stop
juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating
diseases... When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve
are going get up out of that wheelchair and walk again," was described by
Charles Krauthammer (who is in a wheelchair) as the worst demagoguery in
decades.
Poor lying Charles Krauthammer. What's his degree in, again? lol
M.D. Harvard University 1975. Next stupid question...
Notice that the words that make Edwards correct have been snipped from
the middle of the quote.
Maybe Edwards' previous outreach to the disabled, which consisted of
patting a woman in a wheelchair on the head, just didn't wrap up that
demographic, so he had to promise them something to be delivered in John
Kerry's term as President, that modern medicine has been unable to
deliver
after decades of trying. Edwards' Iowa statement should be brought up in
tonight's debate and President Bush should clear up the misconception
(perpetrated by the Democrats) that he has banned stem cell research.
Bush
needs to make it clear that he not only has not banned it, but that he is
the first President ever to federally fund embyronic stem cell research.
... Intentionally on cell lines that are trash. Then he uses respect
for life as an excuse not to use blastocysts that are headed for the
trash already. lol
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