"David Fritzinger" <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
dfritzinnospam-3F72A0.18074417082004@orngca-news03.socal.rr.com on 8/17/04
9:06 PM:

In article <vaudnbMMHdMor7_cRVn-ug@bresnan.com>,
GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

forge wrote:

In article <tdGdncxVV__2FbzcRVn-vw@bresnan.com>,
GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our
people, and neither do we."

All he is saying is that our intel community is vigilant. If you

to twist it into a different context, fine, but what you are

is not correct.

Lemme see if I can diagram this:

THEY never stop
***thinking about ways to HARM our COUNTRY and our PEOPLE***

and

NEITHER DO WE (ever stop thinking about ways to HARM our COUNTRY and

PEOPLE).

Nope. NEITHER DO WE (ever stop thinking of ways to prevent them from
doing HARM to our COUNTRY and our PEOPLE). It's called vigilance.

No, I am afraid you are wrong. This is a typical Bush malapropism. I'm
not saying he is stupid, but he does say some pretty stupid things at
times. If you parse the sentence correctly (without your pro-Bush bias)
it is clear he is saying that al Qaeda never stops trying to do harm to
our country, and neither do we. It didn't come out like he meant, but
that is how it came out.

Are you speaking about the sentence:

They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our
people, and neither do we."

If so, it is quite clear in the idea that "they" and "we" both *think* of
ways to hurt the country.

There is nothing in the sentence that suggests what either group ("they"

"we") do with those thoughts. Maybe the two groups do the same thing,

they do different things.

I would hazard a guess that "they" try to find ways to execute the "ways

harm our country" and "we" try to find ways to prevent it. But that is

a guess... the reality is that the sentence is not clear on that point.

To get clarity, two things can be done: look at the context or ask the
originator of the sentence what he meant. Since I believe the originator

the sentence is Bush, it is unlikely we are going to be able to ask him
directly (what is the chance he would actually answer to the American

on this when he does not on so many other things). That leaves us with
looking at the context. Anyone happen to have it? Seems like a

to me that the context of the poorly worded sentence would need to be

The point Bush was working toward was "We must never stop thinking about

best to defend our country." With that in mind, it seems clear what he
meant.

Sure, he worded it poorly... so? While I agree it is somewhat humorous,

perhaps even telling of his real motives, it is hardly worth the attention
that was given to it.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

--
"If A = B and B = C, then A = C, except where void or prohibited by law."
Roy Santoro, Psycho Proverb Zone (http://smallurl.com/?i=15235)

"David Fritzinger" <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
dfritzinnospam-3F72A0.18074417082004@orngca-news03.socal.rr.com on 8/17/04
9:06 PM:

In article <vaudnbMMHdMor7_cRVn-ug@bresnan.com>,
GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

forge wrote:

In article <tdGdncxVV__2FbzcRVn-vw@bresnan.com>,
GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our
people, and neither do we."

All he is saying is that our intel community is vigilant. If you want
to twist it into a different context, fine, but what you are inferring
is not correct.

Lemme see if I can diagram this:

THEY never stop
***thinking about ways to HARM our COUNTRY and our PEOPLE***

and

NEITHER DO WE (ever stop thinking about ways to HARM our COUNTRY and our
PEOPLE).

Nope. NEITHER DO WE (ever stop thinking of ways to prevent them from
doing HARM to our COUNTRY and our PEOPLE). It's called vigilance.

No, I am afraid you are wrong. This is a typical Bush malapropism. I'm
not saying he is stupid, but he does say some pretty stupid things at
times. If you parse the sentence correctly (without your pro-Bush bias)
it is clear he is saying that al Qaeda never stops trying to do harm to
our country, and neither do we. It didn't come out like he meant, but
that is how it came out.

Are you speaking about the sentence:

They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our
people, and neither do we."

If so, it is quite clear in the idea that "they" and "we" both *think* of
ways to hurt the country.

There is nothing in the sentence that suggests what either group ("they" and
"we") do with those thoughts. Maybe the two groups do the same thing, maybe
they do different things.

I would hazard a guess that "they" try to find ways to execute the "ways to
harm our country" and "we" try to find ways to prevent it. But that is just
a guess... the reality is that the sentence is not clear on that point.

To get clarity, two things can be done: look at the context or ask the
originator of the sentence what he meant. Since I believe the originator of
the sentence is Bush, it is unlikely we are going to be able to ask him
directly (what is the chance he would actually answer to the American public
on this when he does not on so many other things). That leaves us with
looking at the context. Anyone happen to have it? Seems like a no-brainer
to me that the context of the poorly worded sentence would need to be known.

The point Bush was working toward was "We must never stop thinking about how
best to defend our country." With that in mind, it seems clear what he
meant.

Sure, he worded it poorly... so? While I agree it is somewhat humorous, and
perhaps even telling of his real motives, it is hardly worth the attention
that was given to it.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.