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"Snubis" |
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12 Feb 2004 02:53:42 PM |
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John Kerry's Infidelity |
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk1.htm
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
13 Feb 2004 02:08:53 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:53:42 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk1.htm
Funny how you folks get all bloodlusted about where the democratic
candidates choose to put their penises, but have no problem with your
own presidents comitting treason and criminal acts.
Can you explain the principle of morality to me again?
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| User: "Snubis" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
13 Feb 2004 06:19:53 AM |
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On Fri 13 Feb 2004 03:08:53a, Rune Børsjø <none@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:fg1p205u8t0tpf6m27qargeu8kvf57qra2@4ax.com:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:53:42 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk1.htm
Funny how you folks get all bloodlusted about where the democratic
candidates choose to put their penises, but have no problem with your
own presidents comitting treason and criminal acts.
Can you explain the principle of morality to me again?
I had a problem with Clinton too.
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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13 Feb 2004 09:32:26 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:19:53 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
I had a problem with Clinton too.
Yeah, I figured as much :-)
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
13 Feb 2004 04:07:32 PM |
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Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<fe94030e789145fca7bd6bef659edeeb@news.teranews.com>...
On Fri 13 Feb 2004 03:08:53a, Rune Børsjø <none@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:fg1p205u8t0tpf6m27qargeu8kvf57qra2@4ax.com:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:53:42 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk1.htm
Funny how you folks get all bloodlusted about where the democratic
candidates choose to put their penises, but have no problem with your
own presidents comitting treason and criminal acts.
Can you explain the principle of morality to me again?
I had a problem with Clinton too.
Rune's point exactly. You have nothing substantial to complain about,
so you find something trivial and make a big deal about it.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Snubis" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
13 Feb 2004 04:13:27 PM |
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On Fri 13 Feb 2004 05:07:32p, (Mark Sebree) wrote in
news:c30d43e8.0402131407.1bc7683@posting.google.com:
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:<fe94030e789145fca7bd6bef659edeeb@news.teranews.com>...
On Fri 13 Feb 2004 03:08:53a, Rune Børsjø <none@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:fg1p205u8t0tpf6m27qargeu8kvf57qra2@4ax.com:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:53:42 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk1.htm
Funny how you folks get all bloodlusted about where the democratic
candidates choose to put their penises, but have no problem with your
own presidents comitting treason and criminal acts.
Can you explain the principle of morality to me again?
I had a problem with Clinton too.
Rune's point exactly. You have nothing substantial to complain about,
so you find something trivial and make a big deal about it.
I never made a big deal about it. I just posted a link to the story.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Fidelity |
13 Feb 2004 11:22:45 AM |
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Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk1.htm
Classic Republican smear: Accuse a person of "infidelity", regardless
of whether it's true.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Tarver Engineering" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Fidelity |
13 Feb 2004 11:26:27 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c0j154$ah9$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk1.htm
Classic Republican smear: Accuse a person of "infidelity", regardless
of whether it's true.
John Kerry should say.
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| User: "Snubis" |
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13 Feb 2004 01:15:07 PM |
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On Fri 13 Feb 2004 12:22:45p, (Ray Fischer) wrote
in news:c0j154$ah9$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk1.htm
Classic Republican smear: Accuse a person of "infidelity", regardless
of whether it's true.
What do the Republicans have to do with this story?
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| User: "Snubis" |
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13 Feb 2004 03:00:11 PM |
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On Fri 13 Feb 2004 03:40:01p, "torresD" <torresD30@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:BCaXb.4330$hm4.344@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
March 13, 1969:
John Kerry pulls a Green Beret back into his boat under intense fire,
and is awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V. In doing so,
Kerry is again wounded in action, and received his third
Purple Heart Citation.
Do you have a point?
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| User: "Snubis" |
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14 Feb 2004 08:41:42 AM |
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On Fri 13 Feb 2004 06:26:40p, (JPMWycombe) wrote in
news:20040213182640.13622.00001624@mb-m27.aol.com:
John Kerry pulls a Green Beret back into his boat under intense fire,
and is awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V. In doing so,
Kerry is again wounded in action, and received his third
Purple Heart Citation.
Do you have a point?
More than George W Gump ever did- a case of infidelity is a mistake but
saving lives more than makes up for it.
Military service is never a deciding factor in an election. Just look at
Bill Clinton.
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| User: "Tarver Engineering" |
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14 Feb 2004 10:16:26 AM |
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"Snubis" <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:d00e3a34ba9afadea9e62ee296421a04@news.teranews.com...
On Fri 13 Feb 2004 06:26:40p, (JPMWycombe) wrote in
news:20040213182640.13622.00001624@mb-m27.aol.com:
John Kerry pulls a Green Beret back into his boat under intense fire,
and is awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V. In doing so,
Kerry is again wounded in action, and received his third
Purple Heart Citation.
Do you have a point?
More than George W Gump ever did- a case of infidelity is a mistake but
saving lives more than makes up for it.
Military service is never a deciding factor in an election. Just look at
Bill Clinton.
John Kerry needs to get past this dirty laundry early, to be electable in
November.
Democrats are palying the public.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 06:09:37 AM |
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In article <Q4idndAcp8R41LPdRVn-uw@sti.net>,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"Snubis" <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:d00e3a34ba9afadea9e62ee296421a04@news.teranews.com...
On Fri 13 Feb 2004 06:26:40p, (JPMWycombe) wrote in
news:20040213182640.13622.00001624@mb-m27.aol.com:
John Kerry pulls a Green Beret back into his boat under intense fire,
and is awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V. In doing so,
Kerry is again wounded in action, and received his third
Purple Heart Citation.
Do you have a point?
More than George W Gump ever did- a case of infidelity is a mistake but
saving lives more than makes up for it.
Military service is never a deciding factor in an election. Just look at
Bill Clinton.
John Kerry needs to get past this dirty laundry early, to be electable in
November.
Democrats are palying the public.
What dirty laundry? Thus far, all there is about this intern story is
some vague accusation on Drudge's web site with no substantiation at
all. And this will no longer be a deciding factor than it was for
Clinton. Considering how many marriages in this country include at least
one spouse who cheats on the other, this may even win Kerry points if
it turns out to be true.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 08:08:21 AM |
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"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-288A90.07093715022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <Q4idndAcp8R41LPdRVn-uw@sti.net>,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"Snubis" <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:d00e3a34ba9afadea9e62ee296421a04@news.teranews.com...
On Fri 13 Feb 2004 06:26:40p, (JPMWycombe) wrote in
news:20040213182640.13622.00001624@mb-m27.aol.com:
John Kerry pulls a Green Beret back into his boat under intense
fire,
and is awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V. In doing so,
Kerry is again wounded in action, and received his third
Purple Heart Citation.
Do you have a point?
More than George W Gump ever did- a case of infidelity is a mistake
but
saving lives more than makes up for it.
Military service is never a deciding factor in an election. Just look
at
Bill Clinton.
John Kerry needs to get past this dirty laundry early, to be electable
in
November.
Democrats are palying the public.
What dirty laundry? Thus far, all there is about this intern story is
some vague accusation on Drudge's web site with no substantiation at
all. And this will no longer be a deciding factor than it was for
Clinton. Considering how many marriages in this country include at least
one spouse who cheats on the other, this may even win Kerry points if
it turns out to be true.
It shows character, that is why we take the issue so seriously.
If a man can lie and cheat on his wife, he will lie and cheat on anyone,
including you, me, and everyone else.
Now, you are correct, his cheating will score some points.
Just not with Republicans or Democrats. Liberals, yes, he will score
points.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 08:23:28 AM |
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In article <eqydnbJ5cti-4LLdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-288A90.07093715022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <Q4idndAcp8R41LPdRVn-uw@sti.net>,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"Snubis" <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:d00e3a34ba9afadea9e62ee296421a04@news.teranews.com...
On Fri 13 Feb 2004 06:26:40p, (JPMWycombe) wrote in
news:20040213182640.13622.00001624@mb-m27.aol.com:
John Kerry pulls a Green Beret back into his boat under intense
fire,
and is awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V. In doing so,
Kerry is again wounded in action, and received his third
Purple Heart Citation.
Do you have a point?
More than George W Gump ever did- a case of infidelity is a mistake
but
saving lives more than makes up for it.
Military service is never a deciding factor in an election. Just look
at
Bill Clinton.
John Kerry needs to get past this dirty laundry early, to be electable
in
November.
Democrats are palying the public.
What dirty laundry? Thus far, all there is about this intern story is
some vague accusation on Drudge's web site with no substantiation at
all. And this will no longer be a deciding factor than it was for
Clinton. Considering how many marriages in this country include at least
one spouse who cheats on the other, this may even win Kerry points if
it turns out to be true.
It shows character, that is why we take the issue so seriously.
Fine, then how do you explain support of a man who evaded the draft
by signing up for an easy stint in the air national guard during the
Vietnam War and than whent to Alabama to help on a political campaign?
How do you explain a man who is alligned with Halliburton; a company
which evaded the law under Cheney's watch to do business with Iran and
Iraq during a period when we had trade sanctions with those countries?
How do you explain supporting a man who will not even testify before
the bi-partisan 9/11 commission in public. How do you justify supporting
a man who sent more than 500 men and women to their deaths on a lie and
is now trying to cover it up? You tell me. Who is the man with more
integrity; the man with blood on his hands, or the man who has
unsubstantiated rumors surrounding him about a sex affair?
If a man can lie and cheat on his wife, he will lie and cheat on anyone,
including you, me, and everyone else.
That's a big if. You Republicans have no real issues to stand on so you
grasp onto unsubstantiated rumors. Just look at Bush, then tell me you
honestly think he has any integrity.
Now, you are correct, his cheating will score some points.
Just not with Republicans or Democrats. Liberals, yes, he will score
points.
The real likelyhood is that this is a non-issue, even if it is true.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 08:29:00 AM |
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"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-DB082B.09232815022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <eqydnbJ5cti-4LLdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-288A90.07093715022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <Q4idndAcp8R41LPdRVn-uw@sti.net>,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"Snubis" <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:d00e3a34ba9afadea9e62ee296421a04@news.teranews.com...
On Fri 13 Feb 2004 06:26:40p, (JPMWycombe)
wrote in
news:20040213182640.13622.00001624@mb-m27.aol.com:
John Kerry pulls a Green Beret back into his boat under
intense
fire,
and is awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V. In doing so,
Kerry is again wounded in action, and received his third
Purple Heart Citation.
Do you have a point?
More than George W Gump ever did- a case of infidelity is a
mistake
but
saving lives more than makes up for it.
Military service is never a deciding factor in an election. Just
look
at
Bill Clinton.
John Kerry needs to get past this dirty laundry early, to be
electable
in
November.
Democrats are palying the public.
What dirty laundry? Thus far, all there is about this intern story is
some vague accusation on Drudge's web site with no substantiation at
all. And this will no longer be a deciding factor than it was for
Clinton. Considering how many marriages in this country include at
least
one spouse who cheats on the other, this may even win Kerry points if
it turns out to be true.
It shows character, that is why we take the issue so seriously.
Fine, then how do you explain support of a man who evaded the draft
by signing up for an easy stint in the air national guard during the
Vietnam War and than whent to Alabama to help on a political campaign?
Well first off, this is a Democratic ploy. I think Collen Powell handled it
best when he silenced the senator by saying he didn't want to go there.
Second,
I see Bush just like all the other rich boys and girls who had daddy's to
protect them.
Just like Gore, the Kennedy's.
Can you name one senator or congressman who had a son fight in Vietnam?
Want me to answer that for you?
Ok, not one.
Do I think Bush has some questions to answer, sure.
Do I think most Americans care? No
It is dirty political pool right now, it isn't working either.
How do you explain a man who is alligned with Halliburton; a company
which evaded the law under Cheney's watch to do business with Iran and
Iraq during a period when we had trade sanctions with those countries?
How do you explain supporting a man who will not even testify before
the bi-partisan 9/11 commission in public. How do you justify supporting
a man who sent more than 500 men and women to their deaths on a lie and
is now trying to cover it up? You tell me. Who is the man with more
integrity; the man with blood on his hands, or the man who has
unsubstantiated rumors surrounding him about a sex affair?
Same as above,
you are going to find dirty political pool on both sides.
Except when a Republican does it, they are wrong.
It is ok for Democrats though.
It is o.k. though, I am starting to see why some conservatives want Kerry to
win.
Kerry will be in 8 years, Clintons will be out.
If you want to support a man who wants to turn over our military to the
U.N., and sided with a woman who sat in the seat of the enemies
anti-aircraft gun, a man who flip flops on almost every issue.
You go ahead and support him.
If a man can lie and cheat on his wife, he will lie and cheat on anyone,
including you, me, and everyone else.
That's a big if.
A big if?
You Republicans have no real issues to stand on so you
grasp onto unsubstantiated rumors. Just look at Bush, then tell me you
honestly think he has any integrity.
I think he is like any other politician, with good and bad.
It is ok though, because the dirt liberals threw out for the past 4
years...get ready.
It's your turn
Now, you are correct, his cheating will score some points.
Just not with Republicans or Democrats. Liberals, yes, he will score
points.
The real likelyhood is that this is a non-issue, even if it is true.
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| User: "Tarver Engineering" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 10:38:51 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:TtadnW9m8-poHLLdRVn-tw@comcast.com...
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-DB082B.09232815022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <eqydnbJ5cti-4LLdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-288A90.07093715022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <Q4idndAcp8R41LPdRVn-uw@sti.net>,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"Snubis" <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:d00e3a34ba9afadea9e62ee296421a04@news.teranews.com...
On Fri 13 Feb 2004 06:26:40p, (JPMWycombe)
wrote in
news:20040213182640.13622.00001624@mb-m27.aol.com:
John Kerry pulls a Green Beret back into his boat under
intense
fire,
and is awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V. In doing so,
Kerry is again wounded in action, and received his third
Purple Heart Citation.
Do you have a point?
More than George W Gump ever did- a case of infidelity is a
mistake
but
saving lives more than makes up for it.
Military service is never a deciding factor in an election. Just
look
at
Bill Clinton.
John Kerry needs to get past this dirty laundry early, to be
electable in
November.
Democrats are palying the public.
What dirty laundry? Thus far, all there is about this intern story
is
some vague accusation on Drudge's web site with no substantiation at
all. And this will no longer be a deciding factor than it was for
Clinton. Considering how many marriages in this country include at
least
one spouse who cheats on the other, this may even win Kerry points
if
it turns out to be true.
It shows character, that is why we take the issue so seriously.
Fine, then how do you explain support of a man who evaded the draft
by signing up for an easy stint in the air national guard during the
Vietnam War and than whent to Alabama to help on a political campaign?
Well first off, this is a Democratic ploy. I think Collen Powell handled
it
best when he silenced the senator by saying he didn't want to go there.
Second,
I see Bush just like all the other rich boys and girls who had daddy's to
protect them.
Just like Gore, the Kennedy's.
Can you name one senator or congressman who had a son fight in Vietnam?
Want me to answer that for you?
Ok, not one.
Do I think Bush has some questions to answer, sure.
Do I think most Americans care? No
It is dirty political pool right now, it isn't working either.
Kerry has taken a firm grip on the issue and now wants out.
The whole John "Gary Condit" Kerry dirty politicing has blown up in his
face.
How do you explain a man who is alligned with Halliburton; a company
which evaded the law under Cheney's watch to do business with Iran and
Iraq during a period when we had trade sanctions with those countries?
How do you explain supporting a man who will not even testify before
the bi-partisan 9/11 commission in public. How do you justify supporting
a man who sent more than 500 men and women to their deaths on a lie and
is now trying to cover it up? You tell me. Who is the man with more
integrity; the man with blood on his hands, or the man who has
unsubstantiated rumors surrounding him about a sex affair?
Same as above,
you are going to find dirty political pool on both sides.
Except when a Republican does it, they are wrong.
It is ok for Democrats though.
John Kerry is one of the dirtiest campaigners in the business. Kerry is
very similar to Davis.
It is o.k. though, I am starting to see why some conservatives want Kerry
to
win.
Kerry will be in 8 years, Clintons will be out.
If you want to support a man who wants to turn over our military to the
U.N., and sided with a woman who sat in the seat of the enemies
anti-aircraft gun, a man who flip flops on almost every issue.
I don't see Kerry pulling more than Clinton's 43% in '92.
You go ahead and support him.
What if John "Gary condit" Kerry is indicted first?
If a man can lie and cheat on his wife, he will lie and cheat on
anyone,
including you, me, and everyone else.
That's a big if.
A big if?
A certainty.
You Republicans have no real issues to stand on so you
grasp onto unsubstantiated rumors. Just look at Bush, then tell me you
honestly think he has any integrity.
I think he is like any other politician, with good and bad.
It is ok though, because the dirt liberals threw out for the past 4
years...get ready.
It's your turn
Not quite yet.
We want to allow moderate Democrats a turn at Kerry first.
Now, you are correct, his cheating will score some points.
Just not with Republicans or Democrats. Liberals, yes, he will score
points.
The real likelyhood is that this is a non-issue, even if it is true.
Keep praying.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 11:38:03 AM |
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In article <zJWdna0t34A1PbLd4p2dnA@sti.net>, Tarver Engineering
<jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
I don't see Kerry pulling more than Clinton's 43% in '92.
You are kidding yourself. The issue is integrity. For example, I don't
care whether Kerry supported or opposed the policy in Viet Nam. Bush
claimed to support the US in Viet Nam, and then had Daddy pull strings
to get him into the then safe National Guard, jumping over hundreds,
and even then he deserted and got out early. Kerry opposed the war but
supported his country by going there, fighting, and being decorated as
a hero. Bush is quick on lip service, photo ops and cowardice, while
Kerry offers courage, patriotism, honor and integrity.
If you believe the American public will prefer Bush, who is quick to
place others children in harms way while spending their future earnings
through tax cuts to the wealthy, over a more responsible Kerry who
fought for his country in a war he did not support, you have a far more
cynical view of the American public than I do.
However, if you are correct, it is a very sad commentary, not on the
Democrats, but the American people, who are so shallow they don't look
to the future and consider the issues of courage, integrity, and
credibility. A Kerry lose would be bad for the country and signal a
willingness of the American public to sell out their children for huge
national loans disguised as a "tax cut," and a willingness to buy into
Republican propaganda. I, for one, would be proud to be on a losing
side in 2004 if it meant I stood up for your children while you turned
your back on them and the future of America.
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| User: "Tarver Engineering" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 01:37:29 PM |
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"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220040938030862%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <zJWdna0t34A1PbLd4p2dnA@sti.net>, Tarver Engineering
<jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
I don't see Kerry pulling more than Clinton's 43% in '92.
You are kidding yourself. The issue is integrity.
John Kerry is a big loser on integrity and honor.
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17337.htm
http://www.johnkerrytruth.com/
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 01:55:32 PM |
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In article <f5Cdncg3f_0bV7LdRVn-hw@sti.net>, Tarver Engineering
<jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220040938030862%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <zJWdna0t34A1PbLd4p2dnA@sti.net>, Tarver Engineering
<jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
I don't see Kerry pulling more than Clinton's 43% in '92.
You are kidding yourself. The issue is integrity.
John Kerry is a big loser on integrity and honor.
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17337.htm
http://www.johnkerrytruth.com/
You ARE aware those are opinion pieces, right?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 02:02:36 PM |
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"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <f5Cdncg3f_0bV7LdRVn-hw@sti.net>, Tarver Engineering
<jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <zJWdna0t34A1PbLd4p2dnA@sti.net>, Tarver Engineering
<jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
I don't see Kerry pulling more than Clinton's 43% in '92.
You are kidding yourself. The issue is integrity.
John Kerry is a big loser on integrity and honor.
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17337.htm
http://www.johnkerrytruth.com/
You ARE aware those are opinion pieces, right?
ROFL
Opinions!!!
Did YOU know he served in Vietnam?
Oooh, that is just a opinion
He was against the war in Iraq
Actually.. Not.
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority
to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe
that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real
and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam
Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for
the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout
question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous
dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly
grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And
now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
Ooooh, that is just opinion?
He has always supported a strong military
If John Forbes Kerry had his way over the past two decades in the US Senate,
the United States would have a military strength vastly inferior to what
currently exists. He has voted to cut CIA funding, military spending and
weapons programs time after time.
"After the end of the cold war, he asked why the nation's "vast intelligence
apparatus continues to grow even as government resources for new and
essential priorities fall far short of what is necessary," as he put it in
remarks in the Senate in 1997. He proposed a series of measures, most of
which lacked sufficient support, to cut spending programs for intelligence.
But after the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Kerry said on the CBS News program "Face
the Nation," "The tragedy is, at the moment, that the single most important
weapon for the United States of America is intelligence, and we are weakest,
frankly, in that particular area. [emphasis added]" -New York Times,
Jan 25, 2004
That is just opinion????
Kerry introduced a bill in 1996 to cut Department of Defense funding by $6.5
billion. Kerry's bill had no co-sponsors and never came to a floor vote.
That is just opinion???
Update 2/12/04: Kerry told the Harvard newspaper, as a candidate for
congress in 1970, that he wanted to eliminate the CIA and put the US
military under the command of the United Nations.
"almost 34 years later, Kerry's remarks on American military and
intelligence operations vastly diverge from opinions expressed by the
present-day Sen. John F. Kerry, D.-Mass., the leading candidate in the
Democratic primary for president."
"I'm an internationalist," Kerry told The Crimson in 1970. "I'd like to see
our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United
Nations."
Kerry said he wanted "to almost eliminate CIA activity. The CIA is fighting
its own war in Laos and nobody seems to care."
As a candidate for president, Kerry has said he supports the autonomy of the
U.S. military and has never called for a scale-back of CIA operations.
[emphasis added]
Full article: Old Crimson Interview Reveals A More Radical John Kerry
Note: if the above link is busy because of heavy traffic, a copy is
available here
Also: February 18, 1970 - John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress
Note: if the above link is busy because of heavy traffic, a copy is
available here
Opinions?
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 02:07:57 PM |
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In article <aKudnWcS0-61TbLdRVn-gQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220041155325804%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <f5Cdncg3f_0bV7LdRVn-hw@sti.net>, Tarver Engineering
<jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220040938030862%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <zJWdna0t34A1PbLd4p2dnA@sti.net>, Tarver Engineering
<jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
I don't see Kerry pulling more than Clinton's 43% in '92.
You are kidding yourself. The issue is integrity.
John Kerry is a big loser on integrity and honor.
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17337.htm
http://www.johnkerrytruth.com/
You ARE aware those are opinion pieces, right?
ROFL
Opinions!!!
Yeah. Read the fucking titles. "OPINION."
Did YOU know he served in Vietnam?
Unlike Bush, you mean...
Oooh, that is just a opinion
What a moron.
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and he
opposes that?
Bored again...
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 03:15:07 PM |
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David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and he
opposes that?
Thousands?!? There were over 50,000 Americans killed and about
3,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. Those are just direct
casualties of the war, and don't count the millions more who died in
the subsequent political upheval in the region, and those who died
from having millions of tons of chemicals dropped in their countries.
Still today people are killed regularly by finding unexploded
munitions.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
15 Feb 2004 09:34:09 PM |
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In article <c0ongr$hk2$1@bolt.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer
<rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and he
opposes that?
Thousands?!? There were over 50,000 Americans killed and about
3,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. Those are just direct
casualties of the war, and don't count the millions more who died in
the subsequent political upheval in the region, and those who died
from having millions of tons of chemicals dropped in their countries.
Still today people are killed regularly by finding unexploded
munitions.
I see that Michael Moore's Oscar-winning "Bowling For Columbine" is on
Showtime tonight. When I read that, it made me think of his Oscar
speech. He stood up and told the world that there were no WMD and that
Bush was simply leading us into war for his own special interests. He
pointed out that Americans were dying for no reason at all. Some
people booed and hissed. Where are they today, now that America
realizes that he was correct? Moore is like Jane Fonda. Conservatives
hated him because he didn't support the war, and today we realize Moore
and Fonda were ahead of their time.
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| User: "Tarver Engineering" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
16 Feb 2004 11:49:18 AM |
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"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220041934096847%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <c0ongr$hk2$1@bolt.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer
<rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and he
opposes that?
Thousands?!? There were over 50,000 Americans killed and about
3,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. Those are just direct
casualties of the war, and don't count the millions more who died in
the subsequent political upheval in the region, and those who died
from having millions of tons of chemicals dropped in their countries.
Still today people are killed regularly by finding unexploded
munitions.
I see that Michael Moore's Oscar-winning "Bowling For Columbine" is on
Showtime tonight.
It is odd that the Academy would award an award related to Documentries to
Moore's *****.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
16 Feb 2004 01:40:13 PM |
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"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote in message
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"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220041934096847%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <c0ongr$hk2$1@bolt.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer
<rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and
he
opposes that?
Thousands?!? There were over 50,000 Americans killed and about
3,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. Those are just direct
casualties of the war, and don't count the millions more who died in
the subsequent political upheval in the region, and those who died
from having millions of tons of chemicals dropped in their countries.
Still today people are killed regularly by finding unexploded
munitions.
I see that Michael Moore's Oscar-winning "Bowling For Columbine" is on
Showtime tonight.
It is odd that the Academy would award an award related to Documentries to
Moore's *****.
It does not surprise me that he brought up Moore
The man was boo'ed off the stage and has lost more credibility than most of
the Hollyweirdos
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
16 Feb 2004 08:59:16 PM |
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In article <C-6dnfPnp5f2gazdRVn-gg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote in message
news:aNKdnT1JfOk2n6zd4p2dnA@sti.net...
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220041934096847%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <c0ongr$hk2$1@bolt.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer
<rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and
he
opposes that?
Thousands?!? There were over 50,000 Americans killed and about
3,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. Those are just direct
casualties of the war, and don't count the millions more who died in
the subsequent political upheval in the region, and those who died
from having millions of tons of chemicals dropped in their countries.
Still today people are killed regularly by finding unexploded
munitions.
I see that Michael Moore's Oscar-winning "Bowling For Columbine" is on
Showtime tonight.
It is odd that the Academy would award an award related to Documentries to
Moore's *****.
It does not surprise me that he brought up Moore
LOL! Osprey talking to me through others again. What a coward.
The man was boo'ed off the stage and has lost more credibility than most of
the Hollyweirdos
So the "Hollyweirdos" boo'd Moore off the stage? That would make them
Bush supporters. And of course, as it turned out, Moore was correct.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
18 Feb 2004 07:20:28 PM |
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"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote in message news:<aNKdnT1JfOk2n6zd4p2dnA@sti.net>...
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220041934096847%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <c0ongr$hk2$1@bolt.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer
<rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and he
opposes that?
Thousands?!? There were over 50,000 Americans killed and about
3,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. Those are just direct
casualties of the war, and don't count the millions more who died in
the subsequent political upheval in the region, and those who died
from having millions of tons of chemicals dropped in their countries.
Still today people are killed regularly by finding unexploded
munitions.
I see that Michael Moore's Oscar-winning "Bowling For Columbine" is on
Showtime tonight.
It is odd that the Academy would award an award related to Documentries to
Moore's *****.
Yes, most of it was hogwash but you have to admit the militia guy
being interviewed while wearing all the guns and ammunition but
couldn't operate his own belt buckle was pretty funny. They let guys
like that have guns! Heavens! Hope he doesn't shoot himself.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
16 Feb 2004 02:13:56 PM |
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In article <aNKdnT1JfOk2n6zd4p2dnA@sti.net>,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220041934096847%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <c0ongr$hk2$1@bolt.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer
<rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and he
opposes that?
Thousands?!? There were over 50,000 Americans killed and about
3,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. Those are just direct
casualties of the war, and don't count the millions more who died in
the subsequent political upheval in the region, and those who died
from having millions of tons of chemicals dropped in their countries.
Still today people are killed regularly by finding unexploded
munitions.
I see that Michael Moore's Oscar-winning "Bowling For Columbine" is on
Showtime tonight.
It is odd that the Academy would award an award related to Documentries to
Moore's *****.
*****? Turns out Moore was right. Why is it you fascist noe-cons
always label as ***** anything that you cannot understand?
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
16 Feb 2004 08:59:16 PM |
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In article <srhi-3E9D2F.15135616022004@news-60.giganews.com>, Shawn
\"Me\" Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
In article <aNKdnT1JfOk2n6zd4p2dnA@sti.net>,
"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220041934096847%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <c0ongr$hk2$1@bolt.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer
<rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and he
opposes that?
Thousands?!? There were over 50,000 Americans killed and about
3,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. Those are just direct
casualties of the war, and don't count the millions more who died in
the subsequent political upheval in the region, and those who died
from having millions of tons of chemicals dropped in their countries.
Still today people are killed regularly by finding unexploded
munitions.
I see that Michael Moore's Oscar-winning "Bowling For Columbine" is on
Showtime tonight.
It is odd that the Academy would award an award related to Documentries to
Moore's *****.
*****? Turns out Moore was right. Why is it you fascist noe-cons
always label as ***** anything that you cannot understand?
I think what bothered the facists was that even they knew he was
correct, but didn't want to hear it.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry's Infidelity |
16 Feb 2004 08:59:16 PM |
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In article <aNKdnT1JfOk2n6zd4p2dnA@sti.net>, Tarver Engineering
<jtarver@sti.net> wrote:
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:150220041934096847%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <c0ongr$hk2$1@bolt.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer
<rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey
He was against the war in Iraq
Oh God! We can't have that! We killed thousands for no reason and he
opposes that?
Thousands?!? There were over 50,000 Americans killed and about
3,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. Those are just direct
casualties of the war, and don't count the millions more who died in
the subsequent political upheval in the region, and those who died
from having millions of tons of chemicals dropped in their countries.
Still today people are killed regularly by finding unexploded
munitions.
I see that Michael Moore's Oscar-winning "Bowling For Columbine" is on
Showtime tonight.
It is odd that the Academy would award an award related to Documentries to
Moore's *****.
How so?
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