On Wed, 18 Aug 04 16:12:12 GMT,

In article <Xns954992FCF7F9EG@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

"Ouroboros Rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.ee-dee-you> wrote in
news:cg05up$sst$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1ix7xt5s9q7dn.dlg@alaska.local...

The Kerry campaign had to back down from Kerry's 35-year old lie
that he was in Cambodia on Christmas eve in 1968. Now they say
that Kerry's recollection was "imprecise" but he was in Cambodia
in January or February of 1969.

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However, that new story is now being nailed as a lie:
http://froggyruminations.blogspot.com/2004/08/seals-swift-boats.html

Some guy's blog...lol

Kerry is lying about his service in Vietnam. He is the only one who
says he was in Cambodia. Not even his "Band of Brothers" backs him
up on this claim. His whole chain of command say it couldn't have
happened. Hundreds of Vietnam veterans say he is lying. His website
credited him with combat that took place on January 29, 1969 -- the day
BEFORE HE TOOK COMMAND. He wasn't even there! He claims he has
released his full Vietnam records but that, too, is a lie.

Kerry needs to sign a Form 180 to fully release his Vietnam records.
All he currently provides is a hand-picked subset of the record

Cite?

BTW, let us know when bush signs the form.

Bush isn't staking his entire campaign on four months in Vietnam 35 years
ago.

Neither is Kerry, dumbass.

It sure looks like he is, especially when he showed his re-enacted
Vietnam home movie during the Dummycrat convention.

Kerry looked like
Barney Fife in his oversized suit saluting in front of the crowd.

-
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."

Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"

"Frank Logullo" <frankDOTlogullo@dol.net> wrote in
news:1FOUc.116$Pd2.44268@monger.newsread.com:

sci.chem is not a good place for this. It also disturbs me that
normally rational people, i.e. chemists, throw logic to the winds with
their politics.
Frank

What makes you think chemists are rational?

In article <2okmh4Fbv97gU1@uni-berlin.de>,
bjlapen <bjlapen@hotmail.com> wrote:

Gactimus wrote:

The Kerry campaign had to back down from Kerry's 35-year old lie
that he was in Cambodia on Christmas eve in 1968. Now they say
that Kerry's recollection was "imprecise" but he was in Cambodia
in January or February of 1969.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002005720_cambodia15.html

However, that new story is now being nailed as a lie:
http://froggyruminations.blogspot.com/2004/08/seals-swift-boats.html

Kerry is lying about his service in Vietnam. He is the only one who
says he was in Cambodia. Not even his "Band of Brothers" backs him
up on this claim. His whole chain of command say it couldn't have
happened. Hundreds of Vietnam veterans say he is lying. His website
credited him with combat that took place on January 29, 1969 -- the day
BEFORE HE TOOK COMMAND. He wasn't even there! He claims he has
released his full Vietnam records but that, too, is a lie.

Kerry needs to sign a Form 180 to fully release his Vietnam records.
All he currently provides is a hand-picked subset of the record and
a pack of lies that are being disproven every day. We want facts; not
Kerry's tall tales. We want the after-action reports. We want his
medical reports. We want to know if he actually earned all those
purple hearts.

All good and well, but you guys are not keeping up with current
events.

Seems the Kerry campaign has been touting Kerry as a former
vice-chairman of the Senate Intellegence Commitee.
Actually that would be (ex) Sen. Bob Kerrey of Neb.

The blurb from the Wall St. Journal:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110005489

The source:
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=134-03242004

The quote:
"John Kerry served on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for 6
years and is the former Vice Chairman of the Committee."

Kerry was a member of that committee, had he actually shown up for any
meetings, he might have noticed that he wasn't the vice-chairman.

Cheers,
Tony.

Then cite something from Kerry or his campaign touting this.

The source:
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=134-03242004

The quote:
"John Kerry served on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

years and is the former Vice Chairman of the Committee."

In article <2okmh4Fbv97gU1@uni-berlin.de>,
bjlapen <bjlapen@hotmail.com> wrote:

Gactimus wrote:

The Kerry campaign had to back down from Kerry's 35-year old lie
that he was in Cambodia on Christmas eve in 1968. Now they say
that Kerry's recollection was "imprecise" but he was in Cambodia
in January or February of 1969.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002005720_cambodia15.html

However, that new story is now being nailed as a lie:
http://froggyruminations.blogspot.com/2004/08/seals-swift-boats.html

Kerry is lying about his service in Vietnam. He is the only one who
says he was in Cambodia. Not even his "Band of Brothers" backs him
up on this claim. His whole chain of command say it couldn't have
happened. Hundreds of Vietnam veterans say he is lying. His website
credited him with combat that took place on January 29, 1969 -- the day
BEFORE HE TOOK COMMAND. He wasn't even there! He claims he has
released his full Vietnam records but that, too, is a lie.

Kerry needs to sign a Form 180 to fully release his Vietnam records.
All he currently provides is a hand-picked subset of the record and
a pack of lies that are being disproven every day. We want facts; not
Kerry's tall tales. We want the after-action reports. We want his
medical reports. We want to know if he actually earned all those
purple hearts.

All good and well, but you guys are not keeping up with current
events.

Seems the Kerry campaign has been touting Kerry as a former
vice-chairman of the Senate Intellegence Commitee.
Actually that would be (ex) Sen. Bob Kerrey of Neb.

The blurb from the Wall St. Journal:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110005489

The source:
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=134-03242004

The quote:
"John Kerry served on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for 6
years and is the former Vice Chairman of the Committee."

Kerry was a member of that committee, had he actually shown up for any
meetings, he might have noticed that he wasn't the vice-chairman.

Cheers,
Tony.

Then cite something from Kerry or his campaign touting this.

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:48:25 +0000 (UTC),

In article <1ix7xt5s9q7dn.dlg@alaska.local> Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net>

<The Kerry campaign had to back down from Kerry's 35-year old lie
<that he was in Cambodia on Christmas eve in 1968. Now they say
<that Kerry's recollection was "imprecise" but he was in Cambodia
<in January or February of 1969.
<
<http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002005720_cambodia15.h

<
<However, that new story is now being nailed as a lie:
<http://froggyruminations.blogspot.com/2004/08/seals-swift-boats.html
<
<Kerry is lying about his service in Vietnam. He is the only one who
<says he was in Cambodia. Not even his "Band of Brothers" backs him
<up on this claim. His whole chain of command say it couldn't have
<happened. Hundreds of Vietnam veterans say he is lying. His website
<credited him with combat that took place on January 29, 1969 -- the day
<BEFORE HE TOOK COMMAND. He wasn't even there! He claims he has
<released his full Vietnam records but that, too, is a lie.
<

An easy mistake to make. Kissinger and Nixon suffered a similar
confusion, only in the other direction.


-- cary

It should be amusing to note that a perfect accuracy in military
racords (oxymoronic) is required of Kerry while Bush lost most a a
year in which he nobly sacrificed his time in Alabama.

Military records are chaotic -- my own DD214 from Korea vanished in a
fire somewhere --

ward

-----------------------------------------------------
"I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful
and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve
and National Guard units...Of the many tragedies of
Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as
the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are
created equal and owe equal allegiance to their
country."
Colin Powell’s autobiography,
My American Journey, p. 14
-----------------------------------------------------

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:48:25 +0000 (UTC),

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...

In article <1ix7xt5s9q7dn.dlg@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

The Kerry campaign had to back down from Kerry's 35-year old lie
that he was in Cambodia on Christmas eve in 1968. Now they say
that Kerry's recollection was "imprecise" but he was in Cambodia
in January or February of 1969.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002005720_cambodia15.htm

l

However, that new story is now being nailed as a lie:
http://froggyruminations.blogspot.com/2004/08/seals-swift-boats.html

Kerry is lying about his service in Vietnam. He is the only one who
says he was in Cambodia. Not even his "Band of Brothers" backs him
up on this claim. His whole chain of command say it couldn't have
happened. Hundreds of Vietnam veterans say he is lying. His website
credited him with combat that took place on January 29, 1969 -- the day
BEFORE HE TOOK COMMAND. He wasn't even there! He claims he has
released his full Vietnam records but that, too, is a lie.

Kerry needs to sign a Form 180 to fully release his Vietnam records.
All he currently provides is a hand-picked subset of the record and
a pack of lies that are being disproven every day. We want facts; not
Kerry's tall tales. We want the after-action reports. We want his
medical reports. We want to know if he actually earned all those
purple hearts.

Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for. Where was

Bush?

Kerry received 3 Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star, and a Silver Star. Where

was

Bush?

Bush got into the Texas NG ahead of others on a waiting list, got

transferred

to Alabama to work on a friend's political campaign (a unit that didn't

fly

the plane he had been trained to fly), by all accounts never showed up for
the better part of a year, and then got out 9 months early to go to

business

school.

This discussion is about John Kerry, and whether or not he is lying to the
American People, not about George Bush.