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"Gactimus" |
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18 Aug 2004 12:19:59 PM |
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Kerry backpedals to a new lie |
The Kerry campaign had to back down from Kerry's 35-year old lie
that he was in Cambodia on Christmas eve in 1968. Now they say
that Kerry's recollection was "imprecise" but he was in Cambodia
in January or February of 1969.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002005720_cambodia15.html
However, that new story is now being nailed as a lie:
http://froggyruminations.blogspot.com/2004/08/seals-swift-boats.html
Kerry is lying about his service in Vietnam. He is the only one who
says he was in Cambodia. Not even his "Band of Brothers" backs him
up on this claim. His whole chain of command say it couldn't have
happened. Hundreds of Vietnam veterans say he is lying. His website
credited him with combat that took place on January 29, 1969 -- the day
BEFORE HE TOOK COMMAND. He wasn't even there! He claims he has
released his full Vietnam records but that, too, is a lie.
Kerry needs to sign a Form 180 to fully release his Vietnam records.
All he currently provides is a hand-picked subset of the record and
a pack of lies that are being disproven every day. We want facts; not
Kerry's tall tales. We want the after-action reports. We want his
medical reports. We want to know if he actually earned all those
purple hearts.
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| User: "Bruce Sinclair" |
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18 Aug 2004 10:17:41 PM |
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In article <TUUUc.193521$fv.188948@fe2.columbus.rr.com>, "David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> was seen to type:
This discussion is about John Kerry, and whether or not he is lying to the
American People, not about George Bush.
... and is therefore SERIOUSLY off topic in most of the newsgroups you
are posting too.
Thanks
Bruce
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Caution => followups may have been changed to relevant groups
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18 Aug 2004 03:47:35 PM |
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(Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Kerry did six months off-shore on the USS Gridley.
A bit later he did just over four months in-country, on Swift Boats.
Bush got into the Texas NG ahead of others on a waiting list, got
transferred to Alabama to work on a friend's political campaign (a unit
that didn't fly the plane he had been trained to fly), by all accounts
never showed up for the better part of a year, and then got out 9 months
early to go to business school.
Kerry got out early as well.
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| User: "lanny budd" |
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18 Aug 2004 10:47:28 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<Xns9549AB60089AFG@alaska.local>...
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Kerry did six months off-shore on the USS Gridley.
A bit later he did just over four months in-country, on Swift Boats.
Bush got into the Texas NG ahead of others on a waiting list, got
transferred to Alabama to work on a friend's political campaign (a unit
that didn't fly the plane he had been trained to fly), by all accounts
never showed up for the better part of a year, and then got out 9 months
early to go to business school.
Kerry got out early as well.
Ah, but Kerry actually killed a commie. George wakes up from wet
dreams in which he is dressed like Rambo, gunning down Charlie with a
..50 cal at his hip.
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| User: "Lloyd Parker" |
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19 Aug 2004 11:12:35 AM |
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In article <Xns9549AB60089AFG@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Not if you got your 3rd purple heart.
Kerry did six months off-shore on the USS Gridley.
A bit later he did just over four months in-country, on Swift Boats.
And how much time did Bush actually put in?
Bush got into the Texas NG ahead of others on a waiting list, got
transferred to Alabama to work on a friend's political campaign (a unit
that didn't fly the plane he had been trained to fly), by all accounts
never showed up for the better part of a year, and then got out 9 months
early to go to business school.
Kerry got out early as well.
3 months, because of a 3rd purple heart. Quite different from getting out 9
months early to go to business school.
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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19 Aug 2004 04:02:38 PM |
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg31hj$c77$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <Xns9549AB60089AFG@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Not if you got your 3rd purple heart.
Kerry did six months off-shore on the USS Gridley.
Actually, he did a little more than a year. Newly minted officers must serve
1 year at the Navy's request before they can request an assignment - even
combat.
The six month number is a lie being floated by Kerry's detractors to make it
seem like he only served a single tour.
Larry
A bit later he did just over four months in-country, on Swift Boats.
And how much time did Bush actually put in?
Bush got into the Texas NG ahead of others on a waiting list, got
transferred to Alabama to work on a friend's political campaign (a unit
that didn't fly the plane he had been trained to fly), by all accounts
never showed up for the better part of a year, and then got out 9
months
early to go to business school.
Kerry got out early as well.
3 months, because of a 3rd purple heart. Quite different from getting out
9
months early to go to business school.
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| User: "David Hartung" |
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19 Aug 2004 09:46:58 PM |
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg31hj$c77$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <Xns9549AB60089AFG@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Not if you got your 3rd purple heart.
How many people were sent home early from Vietnam because trhey got three
Purple Hearts?
3 months, because of a 3rd purple heart. Quite different from getting out
9
months early to go to business school.
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an early
out to go to school?
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| User: "Lloyd Parker" |
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20 Aug 2004 05:18:23 AM |
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In article <CCdVc.197467$fv.109709@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg31hj$c77$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <Xns9549AB60089AFG@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Not if you got your 3rd purple heart.
How many people were sent home early from Vietnam because trhey got three
Purple Hearts?
Since it was military policy, I'd guess ALL.
3 months, because of a 3rd purple heart. Quite different from getting out
9
months early to go to business school.
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an early
out to go to school?
No and no. He went to Vietnam. Where was Bush?
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| User: "David Hartung" |
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20 Aug 2004 09:25:17 PM |
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg515f$lns$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <CCdVc.197467$fv.109709@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg31hj$c77$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <Xns9549AB60089AFG@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Not if you got your 3rd purple heart.
How many people were sent home early from Vietnam because trhey got three
Purple Hearts?
Since it was military policy, I'd guess ALL.
Numbers please.
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an
early
out to go to school?
No and no. He went to Vietnam. Where was Bush?
Funny, I seem to recall that Gore's tour in Vietnam was about 5 months, and
that he was discharged early to attend a theological school.
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| User: "BOB" |
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20 Aug 2004 09:54:04 PM |
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"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote in
news:hoyVc.197900$fv.56628@fe2.columbus.rr.com:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg515f$lns$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <CCdVc.197467$fv.109709@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg31hj$c77$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <Xns9549AB60089AFG@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Not if you got your 3rd purple heart.
How many people were sent home early from Vietnam because trhey got
three Purple Hearts?
Since it was military policy, I'd guess ALL.
Numbers please.
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an
early out to go to school?
No and no. He went to Vietnam. Where was Bush?
Funny, I seem to recall that Gore's tour in Vietnam was about 5 months,
and that he was discharged early to attend a theological school.
We noticed that you are evading and didn't answer the question about where
Bush was. And we also know why.
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| User: "Lloyd Parker" |
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21 Aug 2004 05:06:30 AM |
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In article <hoyVc.197900$fv.56628@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg515f$lns$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <CCdVc.197467$fv.109709@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg31hj$c77$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <Xns9549AB60089AFG@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Not if you got your 3rd purple heart.
How many people were sent home early from Vietnam because trhey got three
Purple Hearts?
Since it was military policy, I'd guess ALL.
Numbers please.
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an
early
out to go to school?
No and no. He went to Vietnam. Where was Bush?
Funny, I seem to recall that Gore's tour in Vietnam was about 5 months, and
that he was discharged early to attend a theological school.
At least he went there. Where was Bush?
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| User: "David Hartung" |
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20 Aug 2004 09:29:11 PM |
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg515f$lns$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <CCdVc.197467$fv.109709@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an
early
out to go to school?
No and no. He went to Vietnam. Where was Bush?
Really?
http://www.snopes.com/military/goreviet.htm
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| User: "Lloyd Parker" |
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21 Aug 2004 05:09:35 AM |
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In article <cg7kuv$moh$2@puck.cc.emory.edu>,
(Lloyd Parker) wrote:
In article <XryVc.197901$fv.39720@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" < > wrote in message
news:cg515f$lns$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <CCdVc.197467$fv.109709@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an
early
out to go to school?
No and no. He went to Vietnam. Where was Bush?
Really?
http://www.snopes.com/military/goreviet.htm
Then you saw:
"it cut only two months (not seven) from a tour of duty that could not have
lasted more than seven months in the first place."
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| User: "David Hartung" |
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21 Aug 2004 02:03:11 PM |
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg7l0u$n1j$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <cg7kuv$moh$2@puck.cc.emory.edu>,
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
In article <XryVc.197901$fv.39720@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg515f$lns$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <CCdVc.197467$fv.109709@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an
early
out to go to school?
No and no. He went to Vietnam. Where was Bush?
Really?
http://www.snopes.com/military/goreviet.htm
Then you saw:
"it cut only two months (not seven) from a tour of duty that could not
have
lasted more than seven months in the first place."
The point is that Gore's tour in SEA was cut short, and he was released from
the service early to go to school.
This is the same sort of thing as Bush getting out early to go to school.
If it was okay for Gore, then it was also okay for Bush.
Please explain why, during Clinton's first campaign, the Democrats made a
big deal that military service was not a qualification to be President of
the USA, but now that the Democratic candidate is a decorated veteran,
suddenly such service is the most important qualification to be President?
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| User: "Lloyd Parker" |
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23 Aug 2004 03:51:31 AM |
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In article <P%MVc.31995$cT6.30434@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg7l0u$n1j$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <cg7kuv$moh$2@puck.cc.emory.edu>,
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
In article <XryVc.197901$fv.39720@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg515f$lns$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <CCdVc.197467$fv.109709@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an
early
out to go to school?
No and no. He went to Vietnam. Where was Bush?
Really?
http://www.snopes.com/military/goreviet.htm
Then you saw:
"it cut only two months (not seven) from a tour of duty that could not
have
lasted more than seven months in the first place."
The point is that Gore's tour in SEA was cut short, and he was released from
the service early to go to school.
This is the same sort of thing as Bush getting out early to go to school.
If it was okay for Gore, then it was also okay for Bush.
Well, one went to Vietnam and the other went to Alabama; one put in his duty
and the other didn't show up for a year. But other than that, I guess
they're equivalent!
Please explain why, during Clinton's first campaign, the Democrats made a
big deal that military service was not a qualification to be President of
the USA, but now that the Democratic candidate is a decorated veteran,
suddenly such service is the most important qualification to be President?
Because the Republicans have always harped on the defense and military
expertise of their candidates and now the shoe is on the other foot.
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20 Aug 2004 10:11:02 AM |
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In article <cg515f$lns$2@puck.cc.emory.edu>, says...
In article <CCdVc.197467$fv.109709@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"David Hartung" <dhart1ng@quixnet.net> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" < > wrote in message
news:cg31hj$c77$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
In article <Xns9549AB60089AFG@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
(Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Not if you got your 3rd purple heart.
How many people were sent home early from Vietnam because trhey got three
Purple Hearts?
Since it was military policy, I'd guess ALL.
3 months, because of a 3rd purple heart. Quite different from getting out
9
months early to go to business school.
Didn't Al Gore get sent home early from Vietnam, and didn't he get an early
out to go to school?
No and no. He went to Vietnam. Where was Bush?
Kerry is a murdering war criminal. You fool
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18 Aug 2004 10:11:29 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:47:35 GMT, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Kerry did six months off-shore on the USS Gridley.
A bit later he did just over four months in-country, on Swift Boats.
Bush got into the Texas NG ahead of others on a waiting list, got
transferred to Alabama to work on a friend's political campaign (a unit
that didn't fly the plane he had been trained to fly), by all accounts
never showed up for the better part of a year, and then got out 9 months
early to go to business school.
Kerry got out early as well.
He did indeed "get out early," However your boy was never in!
ward
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"Most Americans aren't nearly as homophobic as they
were brought up to think they were supposed to be,"
Barney Frank
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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18 Aug 2004 10:17:43 PM |
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uncleward <uncleward@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hg68i012sa9r9oa795c8ko8p2eq8oopn6t@4ax.com:
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:47:35 GMT, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Kerry did six months off-shore on the USS Gridley.
A bit later he did just over four months in-country, on Swift Boats.
Bush got into the Texas NG ahead of others on a waiting list, got
transferred to Alabama to work on a friend's political campaign (a
unit that didn't fly the plane he had been trained to fly), by all
accounts never showed up for the better part of a year, and then got
out 9 months early to go to business school.
Kerry got out early as well.
He did indeed "get out early," However your boy was never in!
Wrong again. Bush served in the Air National Guard.
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19 Aug 2004 11:15:14 AM |
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In article <Xns9549ED85C7DC4G@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
uncleward <uncleward@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hg68i012sa9r9oa795c8ko8p2eq8oopn6t@4ax.com:
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:47:35 GMT, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Kerry did six months off-shore on the USS Gridley.
A bit later he did just over four months in-country, on Swift Boats.
Bush got into the Texas NG ahead of others on a waiting list, got
transferred to Alabama to work on a friend's political campaign (a
unit that didn't fly the plane he had been trained to fly), by all
accounts never showed up for the better part of a year, and then got
out 9 months early to go to business school.
Kerry got out early as well.
He did indeed "get out early," However your boy was never in!
Wrong again. Bush served in the Air National Guard.
Yeah, and didn't show up and got out 9 months early to go to school. You
really don't want people comparing military service.
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19 Aug 2004 03:27:35 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:17:43 GMT, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
uncleward <uncleward@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hg68i012sa9r9oa795c8ko8p2eq8oopn6t@4ax.com:
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:47:35 GMT, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote in
news:cg0d46$9v9$1@puck.cc.emory.edu:
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for.
A full tour in Vietnam typically lasted 12 months.
Kerry did six months off-shore on the USS Gridley.
A bit later he did just over four months in-country, on Swift Boats.
Bush got into the Texas NG ahead of others on a waiting list, got
transferred to Alabama to work on a friend's political campaign (a
unit that didn't fly the plane he had been trained to fly), by all
accounts never showed up for the better part of a year, and then got
out 9 months early to go to business school.
Kerry got out early as well.
He did indeed "get out early," However your boy was never in!
Wrong again. Bush served in the Air National Guard.
Yeah Sure
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"I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful
and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve
and National Guard units...Of the many tragedies of
Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as
the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are
created equal and owe equal allegiance to their
country."
Colin Powell’s autobiography,
My American Journey, p. 14
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ward
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"Most Americans aren't nearly as homophobic as they
were brought up to think they were supposed to be,"
Barney Frank
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry backpedals to a new lie |
18 Aug 2004 08:08:24 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Aug 04 16:11:48 GMT, (Lloyd Parker)
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In article <1ix7xt5s9q7dn.dlg@alaska.local>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
The Kerry campaign had to back down from Kerry's 35-year old lie
that he was in Cambodia on Christmas eve in 1968. Now they say
that Kerry's recollection was "imprecise" but he was in Cambodia
in January or February of 1969.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002005720_cambodia15.html
However, that new story is now being nailed as a lie:
http://froggyruminations.blogspot.com/2004/08/seals-swift-boats.html
Kerry is lying about his service in Vietnam. He is the only one who
says he was in Cambodia. Not even his "Band of Brothers" backs him
up on this claim. His whole chain of command say it couldn't have
happened. Hundreds of Vietnam veterans say he is lying. His website
credited him with combat that took place on January 29, 1969 -- the day
BEFORE HE TOOK COMMAND. He wasn't even there! He claims he has
released his full Vietnam records but that, too, is a lie.
Kerry needs to sign a Form 180 to fully release his Vietnam records.
All he currently provides is a hand-picked subset of the record and
a pack of lies that are being disproven every day. We want facts; not
Kerry's tall tales. We want the after-action reports. We want his
medical reports. We want to know if he actually earned all those
purple hearts.
Kerry served 2 tours in Vietnam, tours he volunteered for. Where was Bush?
Kerry received 3 Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star, and a Silver Star. Where was
Bush?
Kerry did say he was in Cambodia during Christmas in 1968.
That's what th topic is about.
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There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
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| User: "Bruce Sinclair" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry backpedals to a new lie |
18 Aug 2004 07:22:24 PM |
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In article <6bu7i092nd8q29au6u883dg5bdo25d32ue@4ax.com>, was seen to type:
On Wed, 18 Aug 04 16:11:48 GMT, (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
(rubbish deleted)
Irrelevant to most of the groups it's posted to.
Note also ... most news groups are read by more than americans.
Suggest this should be in some kind of USA politics group - only.
Thanks
Bruce
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| User: "VRWC Destruction Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry backpedals to a new lie |
19 Aug 2004 11:37:19 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:22:24 GMT,
bruce.sinclair@NOSPAMagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz (Bruce Sinclair) wrote:
In article <6bu7i092nd8q29au6u883dg5bdo25d32ue@4ax.com>, was seen to type:
On Wed, 18 Aug 04 16:11:48 GMT, (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
(rubbish deleted)
Irrelevant to most of the groups it's posted to.
Note also ... most news groups are read by more than americans.
Suggest this should be in some kind of USA politics group - only.
Thanks
Bruce
In order to have your point have any meaning you should address your
post to the original poster. It is the person who sent his post to
multiple newsgroups.
You sent your post to two of us in this thread. It is rather curious
that you made your whine about crossposting to two of the people
taking the right wing position, but didn't notice the responses made
by the three left wingnuts who crossposted to the same groups.
I guess Liberal Kiwis are just as shill as Liberal Yanks.
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There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose misstatements could fill up a bucket.
Oft the truth he has bent,
Like his "Irish descent."
Of his record he says, "I'll just duck it."
Must be of the man whose middle name is "F*ck It"
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