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Science > Abortion |
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"papa jack" |
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05 Jul 2004 05:24:32 AM |
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Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
05 Jul 2004 10:18:22 AM |
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(papa jack) wrote...
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
In order to this to be a flip-flop, you need to produce a quotation of
Kerry saying the life does NOT begin at conception.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse,
Papa Jack supports the creation of a theocracy in the U.S. No film at
11.
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
07 Jul 2004 03:55:10 PM |
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On July 07, 2004, David Asman's column was titled "A Question
of Choice." Go to:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124967,00.html
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"John Kerry now says he believes life begins at conception....
[...]
"...In describing the importance of her amendment, Sen.
Feinstein said, 'Clearly, there is a concerted effort
to codify in law the legal recognition that life begins
at conception… This is the first step in removing a
woman's right to choice.'
[...]
_________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack asks:
I wonder if Senator Feinstein will understand Senator
Kerry has taken "the first step in removing a woman's
right to choice?"
I wonder if Sen. Feinstein will support Sen. Kerry?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
08 Jul 2004 12:18:36 AM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On July 07, 2004, David Asman's column was titled "A Question
of Choice." Go to:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124967,00.html
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"John Kerry now says he believes life begins at conception....
[...]
"...In describing the importance of her amendment, Sen.
Feinstein said, 'Clearly, there is a concerted effort
to codify in law the legal recognition that life begins
at conception… This is the first step in removing a
woman's right to choice.'
_________________________________________________________________________
I wonder if Senator Feinstein will understand Senator
Kerry has taken "the first step in removing a woman's
right to choice?"
I see that you're as eager as ever to lie about people, Jackass.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
05 Jul 2004 08:31:14 AM |
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On 5 Jul 2004 03:24:32 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying he
personally does not believe in abortion but that he has the Honesty to
abide by the Constitution and to fairly repersent the people and not
try to legislate his personal opinions when they are contrary to law.
IMHO, a far better canidate for President of the United States than
someone who ignores the letter and spirit of the Constitution.
But then, I believe in a rule of Law over the whims of a tyrant.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
05 Jul 2004 04:25:59 PM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:40e95739.2115725@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On 5 Jul 2004 03:24:32 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying he
personally does not believe in abortion but that he has the Honesty to
abide by the Constitution and to fairly repersent the people and not
try to legislate his personal opinions when they are contrary to law.
Does "does not believe in abortion" mean that abortion is morally wrong or
that it is something that is just not one's personal preference?
IMHO, a far better canidate for President of the United States than
someone who ignores the letter and spirit of the Constitution.
But then, I believe in a rule of Law over the whims of a tyrant.
.
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
05 Jul 2004 08:33:51 PM |
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elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote
in message news:<40e95739.2115725@news.la.sbcglobal.net>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
===========================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying
he personally does not believe in abortion but that he has
the Honesty to abide by the Constitution...
===========================================================================
Papa Jack remarks:
And, WHERE in the Constitution does it say women have
a constitutional right to kill their unborn children
for their convenience?
Please don't try to quote Roe v. Wade to me as we all
know that was a fatuous and tragic mistake costing
millions of innocent lives.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
...and to fairly repersent [sic] the people....
===========================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
But, how does Kerry "represent the people" in this
controversy?
Most recent polls clearly show a majority of Americans
support limiting abortions -- and a substantial majority
support outlawing partial-birth abortions and requiring
parental involvement in underage abortions.
However, Kerry votes AGAINST the majority over and over.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
...and not try to legislate his personal opinions
when they are contrary to law....
===========================================================================
Papa Jack asked:
Senators are in the business of ENACTING laws. That's
one of the main items in their job descriptions. Thus,
it's illogical to say a Senator voted "contrary to the
law." A Senator may feel restrained by the Constitution,
but the laws are what Congress says they are.
Abortion is a highly controversial issue, so there is
no limitations on how a Senator should or should not
vote on abortion related legislation except his conscience.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
IMHO, a far better canidate for President of the United
States than someone who ignores the letter and spirit of
the Constitution.
===========================================================================
Papa Jack commented:
What pompous twaddle!
There is absolutely NOTHING in the letter and spirit of
the Constitution related to any right of women to kill
their unborn children.
Trying to wrap Kerry in the flag for supporting the mass
slaughter of unborn human beings is totally sleazy, Coyote.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
But then, I believe in a rule of Law over the whims of a tyrant.
===========================================================================
Papa Jack laughed:
Do you have any idea how completely ridiculous that sounds?
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
05 Jul 2004 10:40:51 PM |
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On 5 Jul 2004 18:33:51 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote:
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote
in message news:<40e95739.2115725@news.la.sbcglobal.net>...
(papa jack) wrote:
===========================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying
he personally does not believe in abortion but that he has
the Honesty to abide by the Constitution...
===========================================================================
Papa Jack remarks:
And, WHERE in the Constitution does it say women have
a constitutional right to kill their unborn children
for their convenience?
Please don't try to quote Roe v. Wade to me as we all
know that was a fatuous and tragic mistake costing
millions of innocent lives.
Abortion is not about killing unborn children for convenience. No
judge has ever said that women have any right to kill anything, let
alone for mere convenience. Since you toss out this red herring it is
obvious that you cannot address the issue with the truth.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
...and to fairly repersent [sic] the people....
===========================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
But, how does Kerry "represent the people" in this
controversy?
By following the Law of the Land and preventing the tyrany of the
majority over the minority.
Most recent polls clearly show a majority of Americans
support limiting abortions -- and a substantial majority
support outlawing partial-birth abortions and requiring
parental involvement in underage abortions.
Polls can be set up to give you nearly any result you wish. In the
poll that counts, the secret ballot in a voting booth, Pro-Choice has
always come out ahead. People answer public polls a bit different
than how they actually feel.
However, Kerry votes AGAINST the majority over and over.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
...and not try to legislate his personal opinions
when they are contrary to law....
===========================================================================
Papa Jack asked:
Senators are in the business of ENACTING laws.
....The Basic Law of the Land, the U.S. Constitution.....
That's
one of the main items in their job descriptions. Thus,
it's illogical to say a Senator voted "contrary to the
law." A Senator may feel restrained by the Constitution,
but the laws are what Congress says they are.
Abortion is a highly controversial issue, so there is
no limitations on how a Senator should or should not
vote on abortion related legislation except his conscience.
Please tell that to the Catholic Church!
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
IMHO, a far better canidate for President of the United
States than someone who ignores the letter and spirit of
the Constitution.
===========================================================================
Papa Jack commented:
What pompous twaddle!
I have yet to be answered as to how a person who homesteaded in a
State is not a inhabitant of that State. There is also a matter of
the President declaring war on a Nation that had not yet attacked us.
There is absolutely NOTHING in the letter and spirit of
the Constitution related to any right of women to kill
their unborn children.
No one, other than Pro-Lifers, claims otherwise.
Trying to wrap Kerry in the flag for supporting the mass
slaughter of unborn human beings is totally sleazy, Coyote.
Actually I was asking how Kerry flip-flopped. You did a marvelous job
of avoiding that question.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
But then, I believe in a rule of Law over the whims of a tyrant.
===========================================================================
Papa Jack laughed:
Do you have any idea how completely ridiculous that sounds?
Coming from someone who feels "righteous rage" is legal grounds for
the cold blooded killing of a child -- I am not worried about what
*you* find ridiculous.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
06 Jul 2004 10:54:51 AM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:40ea19c0.1560920@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On 5 Jul 2004 18:33:51 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote:
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote
in message news:<40e95739.2115725@news.la.sbcglobal.net>...
(papa jack) wrote:
===========================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan
Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying
he personally does not believe in abortion but that he has
the Honesty to abide by the Constitution...
===========================================================================
Papa Jack remarks:
And, WHERE in the Constitution does it say women have
a constitutional right to kill their unborn children
for their convenience?
Please don't try to quote Roe v. Wade to me as we all
know that was a fatuous and tragic mistake costing
millions of innocent lives.
Abortion is not about killing unborn children for convenience. No
judge has ever said that women have any right to kill anything, let
alone for mere convenience. Since you toss out this red herring it is
obvious that you cannot address the issue with the truth.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
...and to fairly repersent [sic] the people....
===========================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
But, how does Kerry "represent the people" in this
controversy?
By following the Law of the Land and preventing the tyrany of the
majority over the minority.
Most recent polls clearly show a majority of Americans
support limiting abortions -- and a substantial majority
support outlawing partial-birth abortions and requiring
parental involvement in underage abortions.
Polls can be set up to give you nearly any result you wish. In the
poll that counts, the secret ballot in a voting booth, Pro-Choice has
always come out ahead. People answer public polls a bit different
than how they actually feel.
However, Kerry votes AGAINST the majority over and over.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
...and not try to legislate his personal opinions
when they are contrary to law....
===========================================================================
Papa Jack asked:
Senators are in the business of ENACTING laws.
...The Basic Law of the Land, the U.S. Constitution.....
That's
one of the main items in their job descriptions. Thus,
it's illogical to say a Senator voted "contrary to the
law." A Senator may feel restrained by the Constitution,
but the laws are what Congress says they are.
Abortion is a highly controversial issue, so there is
no limitations on how a Senator should or should not
vote on abortion related legislation except his conscience.
Please tell that to the Catholic Church!
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
IMHO, a far better canidate for President of the United
States than someone who ignores the letter and spirit of
the Constitution.
===========================================================================
Papa Jack commented:
What pompous twaddle!
I have yet to be answered as to how a person who homesteaded in a
State is not a inhabitant of that State. There is also a matter of
the President declaring war on a Nation that had not yet attacked us.
The war is against a regime; not a nation. (this assumes that you are
referring to Bush and the war in Iraq)
There is absolutely NOTHING in the letter and spirit of
the Constitution related to any right of women to kill
their unborn children.
No one, other than Pro-Lifers, claims otherwise.
Trying to wrap Kerry in the flag for supporting the mass
slaughter of unborn human beings is totally sleazy, Coyote.
Actually I was asking how Kerry flip-flopped. You did a marvelous job
of avoiding that question.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
But then, I believe in a rule of Law over the whims of a tyrant.
===========================================================================
Papa Jack laughed:
Do you have any idea how completely ridiculous that sounds?
Coming from someone who feels "righteous rage" is legal grounds for
the cold blooded killing of a child -- I am not worried about what
*you* find ridiculous.
.
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
06 Jul 2004 10:40:57 AM |
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elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote
in message news:<40ea19c0.1560920@news.la.sbcglobal.net>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
===========================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by
Jonathan Finer titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts
at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying
he personally does not believe in abortion but that he has
the Honesty to abide by the Constitution...
===========================================================================
Papa Jack remarks:
And, WHERE in the Constitution does it say women have
a constitutional right to kill their unborn children
for their convenience?
Please don't try to quote Roe v. Wade to me as we all
know that was a fatuous and tragic mistake costing
millions of innocent lives.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
Abortion is not about killing unborn children for convenience....
===========================================================================
Papa Jack replies:
I love it when you make dumb statements like that, Coyote.
Anyone with any knowledge of the subject understands
A N U N B O R N C H I L D I S K I L L E D
D U R I N G E V E R Y S U C C E S S F U L
A B O R T I O N.
When you play rhetorical games to try to run away from
that obvious fact, it clearly shows the weakness of your
rationale.
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El Coyote wrote:
...No judge has ever said that women have any right to
kill anything,...
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Papa Jack said:
Well, actually most of the actual killing is done by
professional abortionists.
Apparently you would hang your hat on euphemisms like
"terminating a pregnancy." That may sound nicer, Coyote,
but the only way to "terminate a pregnancy" is to take
actions which everyone involved knows will kill the
living unborn child in the pregnant woman's uterus.
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El Coyote wrote:
...let alone for mere convenience. Since you toss out
this red herring it is obvious that you cannot address
the issue with the truth.
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Papa Jack laughed:
If abortion wasn't such a serious matter, this would be
high comedy.
First, you try to deny abortion involves the killing of
a human fetus -- then, you accuse me of not addressing
"the issue with the truth."
When your statements totally lack logic and reason, folks
will start to question your sanity, Coyote.
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El Coyote wrote:
...and to fairly repersent [sic] the people....
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Papa Jack replied:
But, how does Kerry "represent the people" in this
controversy?
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El Coyote wrote:
By following the Law of the Land and preventing the tyrany [sic]
of the majority over the minority.
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Papa Jack shook his head:
What "law of the Land?"
Actually, all true democracy is what you call "the tyrany [sic]
of the majority over the minority."
If Kerry was truely "representing the people," he would
vote WITH the majority of those he represents.
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Papa Jack wrote:
Most recent polls clearly show a majority of Americans
support limiting abortions -- and a substantial majority
support outlawing partial-birth abortions and requiring
parental involvement in underage abortions.
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El Coyote wrote:
Polls can be set up to give you nearly any result you wish. In the
poll that counts, the secret ballot in a voting booth, Pro-Choice has
always come out ahead. People answer public polls a bit different
than how they actually feel.
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Papa Jack shook his head:
Such twaddle. Over and over the most respected pollsters
in the land have found similar results. Only a small
percentage actually favor abortion on demand in all
circumstances. Even those who call themselves "Pro-Choice"
are queasy about permitting abortions after the first
trimester (except for emergencies).
An overwhelming percentage favors banning Partial-Birth
Abortions, but Kerry voted against any such ban.
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Papa Jack wrote:
However, Kerry votes AGAINST the majority over and over.
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El Coyote wrote:
...and not try to legislate his personal opinions
when they are contrary to law....
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Papa Jack asked:
Senators are in the business of ENACTING laws....
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El Coyote wrote:
...The Basic Law of the Land, the U.S. Constitution.....
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Papa Jack corrected:
The Constitution has already been enacted, Coyote.
It's been in use for over 200 years. 8^)
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Papa Jack wrote:
...That's one of the main items in their job descriptions.
Thus, it's illogical to say a Senator voted "contrary to the
law." A Senator may feel restrained by the Constitution,
but the laws are what Congress says they are.
Abortion is a highly controversial issue, so there is
no limitations on how a Senator should or should not
vote on abortion related legislation except his conscience.
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El Coyote wrote:
Please tell that to the Catholic Church!
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Papa Jack agreed:
I'm sure the Catholic Church would agree with that.
Their argument is that ALL good Catholics should
agree with the basic tenets of their church. The
teachings against abortion are strong and simple.
If a good Catholic were to vote his/her conscience,
then that politician would NOT vote to support
abortion.
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El Coyote wrote:
IMHO, a far better canidate for President of the United
States than someone who ignores the letter and spirit of
the Constitution.
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Papa Jack commented:
What pompous twaddle!
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El Coyote wrote:
I have yet to be answered as to how a person who homesteaded in a
State is not a inhabitant of that State. There is also a matter of
the President declaring war on a Nation that had not yet attacked us.
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Papa Jack laughed:
One of us is on the wrong page, Coyote. I didn't read
anything about homesteading or war in this thread.
Please join the rest of us, Coyote.
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Papa Jack
There is absolutely NOTHING in the letter and spirit of
the Constitution related to any right of women to kill
their unborn children.
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El Coyote wrote:
No one, other than Pro-Lifers, claims otherwise.
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Papa Jack smiled:
There you go again, Coyote.
You keep that up and folks are gonna think you're a
bit teched in the head, Boy.
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Papa Jack wrote:
Trying to wrap Kerry in the flag for supporting the mass
slaughter of unborn human beings is totally sleazy, Coyote.
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El Coyote wrote:
Actually I was asking how Kerry flip-flopped. You did a marvelous job
of avoiding that question.
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Papa Jack grinned:
Thank you.
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05 Jul 2004 09:03:20 PM |
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On 5 Jul 2004 18:33:51 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote:
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote
in message news:<40e95739.2115725@news.la.sbcglobal.net>...
(papa jack) wrote:
===========================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying
he personally does not believe in abortion but that he has
the Honesty to abide by the Constitution...
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Papa Jack remarks:
And, WHERE in the Constitution does it say women have
a constitutional right to kill their unborn children
for their convenience?
Non sequitur, that.
Please don't try to quote Roe v. Wade to me as we all
know that was a fatuous and tragic mistake costing
millions of innocent lives.
Or you could read what Kerry *said* where he acknowledges the First
Amendment and will not force his articles of faith on others by
legislation.
Of course, that would be entirely unlike you.
[snip]
---
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
08 Jul 2004 08:32:25 PM |
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Test.
"papa jack" <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:bd9f1f6b.0407051733.1bb42901@posting.google.com...
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote
in message news:<40e95739.2115725@news.la.sbcglobal.net>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
===========================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan
Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying
he personally does not believe in abortion but that he has
the Honesty to abide by the Constitution...
===========================================================================
Papa Jack remarks:
And, WHERE in the Constitution does it say women have
a constitutional right to kill their unborn children
for their convenience?
Please don't try to quote Roe v. Wade to me as we all
know that was a fatuous and tragic mistake costing
millions of innocent lives.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
...and to fairly repersent [sic] the people....
===========================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
But, how does Kerry "represent the people" in this
controversy?
Most recent polls clearly show a majority of Americans
support limiting abortions -- and a substantial majority
support outlawing partial-birth abortions and requiring
parental involvement in underage abortions.
However, Kerry votes AGAINST the majority over and over.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
...and not try to legislate his personal opinions
when they are contrary to law....
===========================================================================
Papa Jack asked:
Senators are in the business of ENACTING laws. That's
one of the main items in their job descriptions. Thus,
it's illogical to say a Senator voted "contrary to the
law." A Senator may feel restrained by the Constitution,
but the laws are what Congress says they are.
Abortion is a highly controversial issue, so there is
no limitations on how a Senator should or should not
vote on abortion related legislation except his conscience.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
IMHO, a far better canidate for President of the United
States than someone who ignores the letter and spirit of
the Constitution.
===========================================================================
Papa Jack commented:
What pompous twaddle!
There is absolutely NOTHING in the letter and spirit of
the Constitution related to any right of women to kill
their unborn children.
Trying to wrap Kerry in the flag for supporting the mass
slaughter of unborn human beings is totally sleazy, Coyote.
===========================================================================
El Coyote wrote:
But then, I believe in a rule of Law over the whims of a tyrant.
===========================================================================
Papa Jack laughed:
Do you have any idea how completely ridiculous that sounds?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
06 Jul 2004 12:24:42 PM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying
he personally does not believe in abortion but that he has
the Honesty to abide by the Constitution...
And, WHERE in the Constitution does it say women have
a constitutional right to kill their unborn children
Jackass runs away from the question. He spews the usual sleaze then,
when challenged, RUNS AWAY.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
06 Jul 2004 12:23:54 PM |
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papa jackss <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote
Where is the "flip-flop"? You have Kerry quoted as saying
he personally does not believe in abortion but that he has
the Honesty to abide by the Constitution...
And, WHERE in the Constitution does it say women have
a constitutional right to kill their unborn children
for their convenience?
Show us where anybody has ever demanded such a right, jackass.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Lawrence E. McKnight" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception |
05 Jul 2004 05:35:00 PM |
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On 5 Jul 2004 03:24:32 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
[...]
"'I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and
legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist,' he
continued in the interview. 'We have separation of church
and state in the United States of America.'...
"President Bush's campaign said these instances are further
evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading
flip-flops.
"'John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values
and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience
betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues
like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give
him their trust,' said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.
[...]
"Kerry took Communion during Mass, which a few Catholic bishops
have publicly said he should not do because of his abortion
views...."
[...]
__________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
Hmm. The article didn't give any quotes of prior postitions held by
Kerry which contradicted what he said. Do you have any examples of
such, or are you and the Republicans using some loonie-speak meaning
for 'flip-flop'?
Using the "separation-of-church-and-state" excuse, Kerry is
one of the leading supporters of the mass slaughter of human
unborn children in Congress. Just look at his ratings by
NARAL, NOW, and Planned Parenthood.
Gee, you don't like Kerry, do you? That is all you really said in the
above paragraph.
This man is a total phoney who could be dangerous as the
POTUS.
-
Larry
(this space unintentionally left blank .....
make obvious deletion for email
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception (Jackass lies) |
05 Jul 2004 01:00:30 PM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
__________________________________________________________________________
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
We notice how you right-wing bigots will lie, cheat, and steal
rather than defend America's democratic values.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception (Jackass lies) |
05 Jul 2004 11:39:16 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ccc4vt$onu$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
__________________________________________________________________________
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
We notice how you right-wing bigots will lie, cheat, and steal
rather than defend America's democratic values.
And according to the radical left, those values are....?
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception (Jackass lies) |
05 Jul 2004 11:43:34 PM |
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In article <9c2d0f9a.0407052039.520846a9@posting.google.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<ccc4vt$onu$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
__________________________________________________________________________
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
We notice how you right-wing bigots will lie, cheat, and steal
rather than defend America's democratic values.
And according to the radical left, those values are....?
"Radical" ideas such as freedom, liberty, honor, integrity, and the
right to dissent.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception (Jackass lies) |
06 Jul 2004 12:25:39 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ccc4vt$onu$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
__________________________________________________________________________
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
We notice how you right-wing bigots will lie, cheat, and steal
rather than defend America's democratic values.
And according to the radical left, those values are....?
Liberty. Justice.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Hatefeminism" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception (Jackass lies) |
07 Jul 2004 06:47:14 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ccc4vt$onu$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
__________________________________________________________________________
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
We notice how you right-wing bigots will lie, cheat, and steal
rather than defend America's democratic values.
And according to the radical left, those values are....?
Liberty. Justice.
Is that why you hate communism?
Is that why you hate liberal judges forcing their left-wing ideology
on the voting public?
And yet you do nothing but attack America and make excuses for
population controllers in China, you lying sack of *****.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Flip-Flop: Life Starts at Conception (Jackass lies) |
08 Jul 2004 12:19:14 AM |
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Hatefeminism <kill@feminism.now> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ccc4vt$onu$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On July 5, 2004, the Washington Post posted an article by Jonathan Finer
titled "Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception." Go to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A27920-2004Jul4?language=printer
__________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"...Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the
Dubuque, Iowa, Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports
abortion rights and has taken heat from some in the church
hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper, 'I oppose
abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life
does begin at conception.'
__________________________________________________________________________
We continue to notice how easily Kerry flip-flops on issues
to suit the beliefs of the audience he addresses.
We notice how you right-wing bigots will lie, cheat, and steal
rather than defend America's democratic values.
And according to the radical left, those values are....?
Liberty. Justice.
Is that why you hate communism?
You are an idiot. You don't even know what "communism" means.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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