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"papa jack" |
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10 Sep 2004 09:32:26 AM |
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Kerry Wavers |
On September 8, 2004, Ann Coulter's column was titled: "The More
John Kerry Changes, The More He Stays The Same." Go to:
http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/090804p.htm
______________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"There's been a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth
among the Democrats since Vice President Cheney
said if the country makes the wrong choice on Election
Day, 'then the danger is that we'll get hit again and
we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the
standpoint of the United States.'
[...]
"Of course, it gets complicated trying to do a side-by-
side comparison of the candidates' positions on terror-
ism since we don't know which John Kerry is running for
president. The one who opposes war with Iraq or the
one who supports it? The one who opposes the Patriot
Act or the one who voted for it? The one who wants to
work with the allies, or the one who ridicules them when
they support America?
[...]
"During the Democratic primaries, Kerry went to Michigan
and bragged to the Detroit News: 'We have some SUVs. We
have a Jeep. We have a couple of Chrysler minivans. We
have a PT Cruiser up in Boston. I have an old Dodge 600
that I keep in the Senate. ... We also have a Chevy, a
big Suburban.' He was starting to sound like a used-car
dealer in a giant cowboy hat peddling his wares in a
cheesy, low-budget late-night TV commercial: 'We got
Jeeps, we got PT Cruisers, we got minivans, and they're
priced to move, folks ...'
"But a few months after Kerry won the Michigan primary
in February, the feckless opportunist told a bunch of
environmentalists: 'I don't own an SUV.' When pressed
on the apparent contradiction, Kerry explained: 'The
family has it. I don't have it.' We're still waiting
for reaction from some group calling themselves "SUV
Owners for the Truth."'
[...]
"Speaking to an Arab group in Michigan in October 2003,
Kerry called Israel's erection of a wall between Israeli
and Palestinian areas 'another barrier to peace.' But a
few months later, Kerry got on the fence on the subject
of the wall. Adding clarity to the subject, his campaign
issued a memo in February, saying Kerry took the precise
opposite position of his earlier position. The memo said:
'John Kerry supports the construction of Israel's security
fence to stop terrorists from entering Israel. The security
fence is a legitimate act of self-defense ..." So the wall
was either
(1) a barrier to peace or
(2) a legitimate act of self-defense.
[...]
"While Kerry works out his positions, apparently the voters
have decided that their legitimate act of self-defense is
to vote for Bush."
______________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack laughs:
Senator Kerry:
FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP!
FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Wavers |
10 Sep 2004 10:30:46 PM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/090804p.htm
______________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"There's been a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth
among the Democrats since Vice President Cheney
said if the country makes the wrong choice on Election
Day, 'then the danger is that we'll get hit again and
we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the
standpoint of the United States.'
I don't know why. It's obvious that voting for Bush is a wrong choice
that will lead to terrorism.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Matt Pillsbury" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Wavers |
11 Sep 2004 10:31:44 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) writes:
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/090804p.htm
Excerpts:
"There's been a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth among the
Democrats since Vice President Cheney said if the country makes
the wrong choice on Election Day, 'then the danger is that we'll
get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating
from the standpoint of the United States.'
I don't know why. It's obvious that voting for Bush is a wrong
choice that will lead to terrorism.
I don't really expect Cheney, Coulter and Jackass to realize that
there's something wrong with blatant dishonesty and idiocy this late
in the game.
--
Matt Pillsbury
pillsy[at]mac[dot]com
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| User: "John Savard" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Wavers |
12 Sep 2004 10:57:13 PM |
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On 11 Sep 2004 08:31:44 -0700, Matt Pillsbury <mtp@seesig.com> wrote, in
part:
I don't really expect Cheney, Coulter and Jackass to realize that
there's something wrong with blatant dishonesty and idiocy this late
in the game.
Although I still think that George W. Bush is a much better choice than
John Kerry for President, I was quite troubled recently by news that he
had characterized the events in Darfur as genocide.
Not that it isn't accurate, nor that I would oppose U.S. intervention to
stop the slaughter.
But many Bush supporters have been comparing Clinton's intervention in
Kosovo to Bush's intervention in Iraq, claiming the first was
impractical, idealistic, and involved no vital American interest,
whereas Iraq clearly was in defence, if somewhat pre-emptive, of
America.
Take that, and add to it the fact that an intervention of this nature,
however justified, is likely to inflame the Muslim world (much of it
being fed with one-sided propaganda instead of news), and that the
portion of America's military might relevant to such an intervention is
stretched to its limits due to Iraq.
Is Bush floating something he believes to be a stupid idea, in hopes
that Kerry will shoot it down, and look like the heavy to the American
people, since stopping the slaughter in the Sudan is emotionally
appealing regardless of _realpolitik_?
There are other explanations. Maybe real Bush supporters aren't
Clinton-bashers who criticize even the good things he did, like Kosovo.
Maybe Bush hopes his statements, independently of any prospect of U.S.
intervention, will encourage the Sudanese government to mend its ways.
Or, because stopping genocide is less controversial than stopping a
dictator who _might_ have weapons of mass destruction and _might_ give
them to terrorists, perhaps he is hoping the genocide in the Sudan can
be stopped by force, if need be, largely by troops from places such as
Canada and France.
I think we can leave alternate explanation #3 out of our thinking. The
people who say that George W. Bush is that stupid are liars. (Although
there may be other members of the coalition against terror less unlikely
than Canada and France. Does Russia have any troops it can spare?)
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Wavers |
12 Sep 2004 07:22:14 PM |
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On September 8, 2004, Ann Coulter's column was titled: "The More
John Kerry Changes, The More He Stays The Same." Go to:
http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/090804p.htm
______________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"There's been a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth
among the Democrats since Vice President Cheney
said if the country makes the wrong choice on Election
Day, 'then the danger is that we'll get hit again and
we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the
standpoint of the United States.'
[...]
"Of course, it gets complicated trying to do a side-by-
side comparison of the candidates' positions on terror-
ism since we don't know which John Kerry is running for
president. The one who opposes war with Iraq or the
one who supports it? The one who opposes the Patriot
Act or the one who voted for it? The one who wants to
work with the allies, or the one who ridicules them when
they support America?
[...]
"During the Democratic primaries, Kerry went to Michigan
and bragged to the Detroit News: 'We have some SUVs. We
have a Jeep. We have a couple of Chrysler minivans. We
have a PT Cruiser up in Boston. I have an old Dodge 600
that I keep in the Senate. ... We also have a Chevy, a
big Suburban.' He was starting to sound like a used-car
dealer in a giant cowboy hat peddling his wares in a
cheesy, low-budget late-night TV commercial: 'We got
Jeeps, we got PT Cruisers, we got minivans, and they're
priced to move, folks ...'
"But a few months after Kerry won the Michigan primary
in February, the feckless opportunist told a bunch of
environmentalists: 'I don't own an SUV.' When pressed
on the apparent contradiction, Kerry explained: 'The
family has it. I don't have it.' We're still waiting
for reaction from some group calling themselves "SUV
Owners for the Truth."'
[...]
"Speaking to an Arab group in Michigan in October 2003,
Kerry called Israel's erection of a wall between Israeli
and Palestinian areas 'another barrier to peace.' But a
few months later, Kerry got on the fence on the subject
of the wall. Adding clarity to the subject, his campaign
issued a memo in February, saying Kerry took the precise
opposite position of his earlier position. The memo said:
'John Kerry supports the construction of Israel's security
fence to stop terrorists from entering Israel. The security
fence is a legitimate act of self-defense ..." So the wall
was either
(1) a barrier to peace or
(2) a legitimate act of self-defense.
[...]
"While Kerry works out his positions, apparently the voters
have decided that their legitimate act of self-defense is
to vote for Bush."
______________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack laughs:
Senator Kerry:
FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP!
FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Wavers |
13 Sep 2004 05:09:53 AM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On September 8, 2004, Ann Coulter's column was titled: "The More
John Kerry Changes, The More He Stays The Same." Go to:
How cute. Jackass parrots republican party propaganda, even though
he knows it's lies.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Wavers |
12 Sep 2004 07:22:48 PM |
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On September 8, 2004, Ann Coulter's column was titled: "The More
John Kerry Changes, The More He Stays The Same." Go to:
http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/090804p.htm
______________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"There's been a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth
among the Democrats since Vice President Cheney
said if the country makes the wrong choice on Election
Day, 'then the danger is that we'll get hit again and
we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the
standpoint of the United States.'
[...]
"Of course, it gets complicated trying to do a side-by-
side comparison of the candidates' positions on terror-
ism since we don't know which John Kerry is running for
president. The one who opposes war with Iraq or the
one who supports it? The one who opposes the Patriot
Act or the one who voted for it? The one who wants to
work with the allies, or the one who ridicules them when
they support America?
[...]
"During the Democratic primaries, Kerry went to Michigan
and bragged to the Detroit News: 'We have some SUVs. We
have a Jeep. We have a couple of Chrysler minivans. We
have a PT Cruiser up in Boston. I have an old Dodge 600
that I keep in the Senate. ... We also have a Chevy, a
big Suburban.' He was starting to sound like a used-car
dealer in a giant cowboy hat peddling his wares in a
cheesy, low-budget late-night TV commercial: 'We got
Jeeps, we got PT Cruisers, we got minivans, and they're
priced to move, folks ...'
"But a few months after Kerry won the Michigan primary
in February, the feckless opportunist told a bunch of
environmentalists: 'I don't own an SUV.' When pressed
on the apparent contradiction, Kerry explained: 'The
family has it. I don't have it.' We're still waiting
for reaction from some group calling themselves "SUV
Owners for the Truth."'
[...]
"Speaking to an Arab group in Michigan in October 2003,
Kerry called Israel's erection of a wall between Israeli
and Palestinian areas 'another barrier to peace.' But a
few months later, Kerry got on the fence on the subject
of the wall. Adding clarity to the subject, his campaign
issued a memo in February, saying Kerry took the precise
opposite position of his earlier position. The memo said:
'John Kerry supports the construction of Israel's security
fence to stop terrorists from entering Israel. The security
fence is a legitimate act of self-defense ..." So the wall
was either
(1) a barrier to peace or
(2) a legitimate act of self-defense.
[...]
"While Kerry works out his positions, apparently the voters
have decided that their legitimate act of self-defense is
to vote for Bush."
______________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack laughs:
Senator Kerry:
FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP!
FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP! FLIP -- FLOP!
.
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