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"TerryG" |
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31 May 2004 08:38:42 AM |
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Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
How many ways can the left wing liberals say, "because I said so".
Apparently not enough to keep liberal talk radio on the air. I just
hope they spend every last nickel they have.
Don't you just love the concluding quote from Al Franken at the end of
the following article: ""Imagine how we're going to do when we know
what we're doing". Well left wing liberals so seldom know what they
are doing about anything, why should talk radio be any different? How
they're running their feeble attempt at syndicated radio is exactly
how they run everything in their lives. Can you imagine these people
running the country? "It's a little fuzzy to me exactly who's in
charge.'' Yeh, right !!!!!!
Read on and enjoy, my fellow conservatives out there.
Office Politics Give Liberal Radio a Rocky Start
By JACQUES STEINBERG
ven by the chaotic standards of a new media company, Air America
Radio's first two months of broadcasting have been convulsive.
The fledgling talk-radio network has replaced five top executives,
been taken off the air in two of its top three markets and lost
several crucial producers. By late April, current and former
executives said last week, the company was perilously close to running
out of money. It has since received an infusion of cash, though it has
not disclosed how much or from whom.
The roiling in Air America's front office has undercut its continuing
assurances that it has the financing and leadership to survive past
the presidential election in November, in pursuit of its goal of
establishing a permanent liberal counterpart to Rush Limbaugh and his
radio cohort on the right.
In a sign that the privately held company's financial woes have not
fully abated, Al Franken, the network's best-known star, said in an
interview last week that he had agreed not to draw a salary, however
temporarily, making him "an involuntary investor.''
"We had some bad management,'' Mr. Franken said. "Then we got some
good management.''
Still, Mr. Franken, his tongue only partly in cheek, added, "It's a
little fuzzy to me exactly who's in charge.''
The turmoil has shed light on the network's corporate culture, laying
bare a mismatched collection of managers and investors, including
Democratic Party fund-raisers, Internet entrepreneurs and radio
veterans who, as it turned out, did not get along especially well.
Even as the network was finding an audience with its blend of humor
and commentary, many of the principals' business relationships were
dissolving in a flurry of charges and countercharges. The most serious
concerned how much money Air America actually had on hand when it went
on the air on March 31.
In early March, the network's chief executive, Mark Walsh, said that
the company had raised more than $20 million, enough to keep it
broadcasting for months, if not years, before making a profit. At the
time, Mr. Walsh said that the network's primary backers included Evan
M. Cohen, a venture capitalist who was the network's chairman, and Rex
Sorensen, a business partner of Mr. Cohen's who was the chairman of
Progress Media, the parent company of Air America.
But in an interview on Friday, Mr. Walsh said: "I was misled about
that number.'' Mr. Walsh refused to say who had misled him, but he
said that he had resigned in April because "the company wasn't
transparent'' and "I was unable to decipher how it was being
operated.''
Less than a month later, Mr. Cohen and Mr. Sorensen, who had
previously operated radio stations together in Guam and Saipan,
resigned under pressure from the company's other investors. David
Goodfriend, who served as general counsel and later as acting chief
operating officer of Air America, resigned about a week ago, having
done his best, he said, to hold the company together in the wake of
the departures of Mr. Cohen, Mr. Sorensen and Mr. Walsh. (Separately,
Dave Logan, executive vice president for programming, also left, in
late April.)
Jon Sinton, the president of Air America and one of the few top
executives who remains from the day it went on the air, underscored
Mr. Walsh's comments by saying, in a separate interview, that he, too,
had been misled about the company's resources and that a cash crunch
had ensued as a result.
"Financing wasn't as available for operational issues as we'd thought
it was,'' he said. Reached on Friday, Mr. Cohen declined to comment on
the state of the company's finances under his watch.
Despite the intrigue concerning its management - and the abrupt
pulling of its programming last month from stations in Chicago and Los
Angeles, in a contract dispute - there are early indications that,
where it can be heard, Air America is actually drawing listeners.
WLIB-AM in New York City, one of 13 stations that carry at least part
of Air America's 16 hours of original programming each day, even
appears to be holding its own with WABC-AM, the New York City station
and talk radio powerhouse that is Mr. Limbaugh's flagship.
For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet,
the network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a
percentage of listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3
p.m. on weekdays, according to the company's extrapolation of figures
provided by Arbitron for the three months ended in April. (Arbitron,
which does not provide ratings in monthly increments, said the
network's methodology appeared sound, although such figures were too
raw to translate to numbers of listeners.)
By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an
average share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age
group. That time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh
was pitted head to head against Mr. Franken.
Phil Boyce, the program director of WABC , cautioned against drawing
conclusions from preliminary data. "If they end up doing that well
when the final number is out, which is two more months, I'll give them
a congratulations," Mr. Boyce said.
While the network is awaiting the release of similar figures from
Arbitron for other cities, KPOJ-AM, the Clear Channel station that
carries its programming in Portland, Ore., informed Air America
executives by an e-mail message in late April that its ratings
appeared to have tripled last month, according to the station's
informal survey. (A station executive, Mary Lou Gunn, did not return a
telephone message left at her office on Friday.)
The network, which is also carried on the satellite radio providers XM
and Sirius, has found an audience on the Internet. In its first week,
listeners clicked on the audio programming on the Air America Web site
more than two million times, according to RealNetworks, the digital
media provider.
"It's clear the audience is there,'' Mr. Franken said.
The conventional wisdom in the radio industry had been that, unlike
the conservatives who dominate commercial talk radio, liberals could
not entice and hold listeners.
"This shows there's an appetite out there,'' said Tom Taylor, editor
of Inside Radio, an industry newsletter whose publisher is owned by
Clear Channel. "There's a good chance they'll right the ship
businesswise and keep going forward.''
In addition to Mr. Franken, the Air America lineup includes Janeane
Garofalo, an actress and comedian, and Lizz Winstead, a former head
writer of "The Daily Show'' on Comedy Central.
Air America's stumble outside the studio in its early weeks was partly
a function of the ambitious task it had assigned itself. While Mr.
Limbaugh quickly found a niche on AM radio beginning in the late
1980's - he is now heard on more than 600 stations - he began
syndicating his program at a time when AM radio was thought to be
dying, thus presenting him little competition.
Now, in an era of media consolidation, AM and FM stations alike are
thriving. Few are for sale (Air America had initially hoped to buy
five, but has yet to buy one), and few have enough air time available
for lease or barter to accommodate Air America's block of programming.
But interviews with more than a dozen people currently or formerly
affiliated with Air America made clear that the network had been
hobbled by the failure of its early principals - some of whom had been
drawn to the venture by ideology, others for business reasons - to
forge common ground.
The idea for a liberal talk-radio network was first hatched by Sheldon
and Anita Drobny, venture capitalists from the Chicago area who had a
lot of experience raising money for the Democratic Party but no real
radio expertise. They were led to Mr. Sinton, who has 30 years
experience in the radio business, and Mr. Franken, who has made a
cottage industry of writing best-selling books that skewer the right.
In Air America's current incarnation, Mr. Sinton, the president,
reports to the network's new chief executive, Doug Kreeger, an early
investor whose entrepreneurial efforts have included founding a chain
of outerwear stores (Kreeger & Sons) and investing in a New York
restaurant (City Bakery).
For chief operating officer, the company has selected Carl Ginsburg, a
former news producer at NBC and CBS. Ms. Drobny is its chairwoman, Mr.
Sinton said.
Mr. Sinton said that the company was seeking to expand the number of
stations carrying its programming - which includes Burlington, Vt.;
West Palm Beach, Fla.; and Sacramento - to new markets in Colorado
Springs, Santa Cruz, Calif., and Reno, Nev. It is also seeking new
outlets in Chicago and Los Angeles, having settled its contractual
dispute with the owner of the stations where it had first leased air
time.
Mr. Sinton and Mr. Franken refused to say how much money the network
had now, but said they had received assurances that the network would
have no problem staying on the air through November, and beyond.
"No one is promising things they can't promise,'' Mr. Franken said.
"But it appears to me that from the other people that are stepping up,
the financing will be in place.'' He added: "Imagine how we're going
to do when we know what we're doing.''
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| User: "TerryG" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
03 Jun 2004 05:51:16 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c9m1pk$5lq$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c9jk2c$a4o$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c9gtb7$2uq$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
How many ways can the left wing liberals say, "because I said so".
"Why should pregnant women be forced to provide the use of their
bodies to keep fetuses alive?"
Hey, I'll be honest with you.
I may be a cynic, but I get suspicious when people need to tell me
that they're going to be honest. It usually means that they're going
to start lying to me.
I think that's a perfectly legitimate
question that needs to be asked.
And apparently not answered.
As usual.
Except I might word it a little
differently. I'd prefer to ask the question, why shouldn't women be
prevented from killing the human life they've created?
So my cynicism was warranted. You resort to the usual lies.
The fact is that you want to force women to keep fetuses alive.
All that crap about killing is just a smokescreen and a lie in
order to mask your true agenda. You're just like Taliban fanatics.
You think human life is expendable for convenience
There's more of your hate and lies.
Now there is something you do not see very often, Ray Fischer accusing
someone of lying.
I have noticed that YOU get accused of lying quite regularly.
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because they point
out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
03 Jun 2004 08:29:05 AM |
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On 3 Jun 2004 03:51:16 -0700,
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "TerryG" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
04 Jun 2004 03:33:58 PM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40c225db.88098020@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 3 Jun 2004 03:51:16 -0700,
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
-- Craig Chilton < >
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Do you know what the Bible says about people who invoke the word of
God to advance the devil's agenda? I'd be shaking in my shoes if I
were you.
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
06 Jun 2004 05:01:15 AM |
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On 4 Jun 2004 13:33:58 -0700,
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Do you know what the Bible says about people who invoke
the word of God to advance the devil's agenda?
Ah. People like YOU? The devil undoubtly LOVES bigots
like you, who go out of your way to make Christianity look like
the religion of hateful loons. Because of people like you, many
thousands, and perhaps even millions, of people have observed
the high-profile and intolerant antics of the RRR cultists, and have
mistaken their warped and sociopathic views to be representative
of Christians as a whole (even though around 99% of Christians,
by none other than Randall Terry's own public admission, want
NOTHING to do with the bigots' extremism). And thus would
attend a rat fight before they'd have **anything** to do with
coming to Jesus. You can be so PROUD of yourself, for that.
Perhaps Satan will reward you with a nice pool of molten
tungsten to swim in.
I'd be shaking in my shoes if I were you.
Shake, rattle, and roll, Pharisee!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
05 Jun 2004 02:52:17 PM |
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TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Do you know what the Bible says about people who invoke the word of
God to advance the devil's agenda?
People like you?
I'd be shaking in my shoes if I
were you.
People who do the work of Satan are corrupted and unable to see the
truth. The test is to see whether they tell the truth. See whether
they promote love or hate.
You do not tell the truth. You offer only hate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
03 Jun 2004 01:40:19 PM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40c225db.88098020@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 3 Jun 2004 03:51:16 -0700,
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
-- Craig Chilton < >
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule to
kill another person before that person is born?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
03 Jun 2004 07:26:52 PM |
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On 3 Jun 2004 11:40:19 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule to
kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
04 Jun 2004 07:49:17 AM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40d3c13a.127879109@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 3 Jun 2004 11:40:19 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule to
kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
-- Craig Chilton < >
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and
then you can see for yourself that people did exist because they will
be resurrected and will dwell eternally with God.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
06 Jun 2004 04:27:24 AM |
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On 4 Jun 2004 05:49:17 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
06 Jun 2004 09:24:34 PM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cae26a.37713079@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:49:17 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
-- Craig Chilton < >
Well, children are people. Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his
espoused wife, being great with child. Jesus Christ was a child
before he was born.
Robert b. winn
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
06 Jun 2004 10:07:09 PM |
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On 6 Jun 2004 19:24:34 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
Well, children are people.
Yep. And they've all been born. So why don't you take your
idiotic hate-SWILL to alt.infanticide, where it belongs, and stop
making such a ludicrous fool of yourself in here?
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
08 Jun 2004 07:31:28 PM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40c8db2a.5931611@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 6 Jun 2004 19:24:34 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
Well, children are people.
Yep. And they've all been born. So why don't you take your
idiotic hate-SWILL to alt.infanticide, where it belongs, and stop
making such a ludicrous fool of yourself in here?
-- Craig Chilton < >
Well, you might want to consider this scripture from the Bible. Luke
2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
This scripture plainly says that Jesus Christ was a child while he was
still in his mother's womb.
Robert B. winn
.
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
08 Jun 2004 10:04:19 PM |
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On 8 Jun 2004 17:31:28 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
Well, children are people.
Yep. And they've all been born. So why don't you take your
idiotic hate-SWILL to alt.infanticide, where it belongs, and stop
making such a ludicrous fool of yourself in here?
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
.
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
09 Jun 2004 08:16:06 AM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40e97e1b.112701349@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 17:31:28 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
Well, children are people.
Yep. And they've all been born. So why don't you take your
idiotic hate-SWILL to alt.infanticide, where it belongs, and stop
making such a ludicrous fool of yourself in here?
-- Craig Chilton < >
How is our little ray of sunshine today?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
09 Jun 2004 02:21:26 AM |
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Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40c8db2a.5931611@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 6 Jun 2004 19:24:34 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
Well, children are people.
Yep. And they've all been born. So why don't you take your
idiotic hate-SWILL to alt.infanticide, where it belongs, and stop
making such a ludicrous fool of yourself in here?
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Well, you might want to consider this scripture from the Bible. Luke
2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being
...pregnant...
This scripture plainly says that Jesus Christ was a child while he was
still in his mother's womb.
Robert B. winn
The scripture plainly says no such thing.
--
--sexkitten--God is a noise people make when they're too tired to think
anymore. -Edward Abbey
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
09 Jun 2004 08:15:46 PM |
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ins41Fp1u87U4@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40c8db2a.5931611@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 6 Jun 2004 19:24:34 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
Well, children are people.
Yep. And they've all been born. So why don't you take your
idiotic hate-SWILL to alt.infanticide, where it belongs, and stop
making such a ludicrous fool of yourself in here?
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Well, you might want to consider this scripture from the Bible. Luke
2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being
..pregnant...
This scripture plainly says that Jesus Christ was a child while he was
still in his mother's womb.
Robert B. winn
The scripture plainly says no such thing.
Notice that even though you denied that the scripture says that Jesus
Christ was a child while he was still in his mother's womb, the
scripture still reads the same as it did before your statement.
Robert B. Winn
.
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
09 Jun 2004 08:15:50 PM |
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ins41Fp1u87U4@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40c8db2a.5931611@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 6 Jun 2004 19:24:34 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
Well, children are people.
Yep. And they've all been born. So why don't you take your
idiotic hate-SWILL to alt.infanticide, where it belongs, and stop
making such a ludicrous fool of yourself in here?
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Well, you might want to consider this scripture from the Bible. Luke
2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being
..pregnant...
This scripture plainly says that Jesus Christ was a child while he was
still in his mother's womb.
Robert B. winn
The scripture plainly says no such thing.
Notice that even though you denied that the scripture says that Jesus
Christ was a child while he was still in his mother's womb, the
scripture still reads the same as it did before your statement.
Robert B. Winn
.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
10 Jun 2004 06:10:05 AM |
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Robert B. Winn wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ins41Fp1u87U4@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40c8db2a.5931611@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 6 Jun 2004 19:24:34 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
Well, children are people.
Yep. And they've all been born. So why don't you take your
idiotic hate-SWILL to alt.infanticide, where it belongs, and stop
making such a ludicrous fool of yourself in here?
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Well, you might want to consider this scripture from the Bible. Luke
2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being
..pregnant...
This scripture plainly says that Jesus Christ was a child while he was
still in his mother's womb.
Robert B. winn
The scripture plainly says no such thing.
Notice that even though you denied that the scripture says that Jesus
Christ was a child while he was still in his mother's womb,
That's right.
the
scripture still reads the same as it did before your statement.
Robert B. Winn
The scripture says no such thing. Get a real translation.
--
--sexkitten--"There was a time when religion ruled the
world. It was known as The Dark Ages."
[Ruth Hurmence Green]
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
07 Jun 2004 02:48:04 AM |
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Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cae26a.37713079@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:49:17 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Well, children are people. Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his
espoused wife, being great with child. Jesus Christ was a child
before he was born.
Robert b. winn
Lying again?
--
--sexkitten--He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he
realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that
there wasn't an afterlife.
Douglas Adams
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
08 Jun 2004 07:32:55 PM |
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2iiktsFncfg2U2@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cae26a.37713079@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:49:17 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Well, children are people. Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his
espoused wife, being great with child. Jesus Christ was a child
before he was born.
Robert b. winn
Lying again?
You seem to be saying that you do not believe the Bible.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
09 Jun 2004 02:21:42 AM |
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Robert B. Winn wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2iiktsFncfg2U2@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cae26a.37713079@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:49:17 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Well, children are people. Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his
espoused wife, being great with child. Jesus Christ was a child
before he was born.
Robert b. winn
Lying again?
You seem to be saying that you do not believe the Bible.
Robert B. Winn
Sure don't.
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--sexkitten--God is a noise people make when they're too tired to think
anymore. -Edward Abbey
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
09 Jun 2004 08:10:46 PM |
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ins4hFp1u87U5@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2iiktsFncfg2U2@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cae26a.37713079@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:49:17 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Well, children are people. Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his
espoused wife, being great with child. Jesus Christ was a child
before he was born.
Robert b. winn
Lying again?
You seem to be saying that you do not believe the Bible.
Robert B. Winn
Sure don't.
So how do you think that makes you unique?
Robert b. winn
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
10 Jun 2004 06:09:13 AM |
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Robert B. Winn wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ins4hFp1u87U5@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2iiktsFncfg2U2@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cae26a.37713079@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:49:17 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilron <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke. Here's a
question you can once again ignore. What is the source of your sense
of morality. He won't answer, folks, because he has no source. No
source, no morality. Not rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can be said
for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes common sense.
Practicing the the Golden Rule is common sense. And if a person
practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Not to mention "egalitarian". How is it following the Golden Rule
to kill another person before that person is born?
No person EXISTS prior to birth, abjectly-ignorant loon. Except
in your hateful, control-freakish, and sociopathic imagination.
Well, there is no reason to get contentious about it. My suggestion
is to just wait until Jesus Christ returns to judge the earth, and then you
can see for yourself that people did exist because they will be resurrected
and will dwell eternally with God.
Of COURSE people exist. And ALL people have been BORN.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
Well, children are people. Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his
espoused wife, being great with child. Jesus Christ was a child
before he was born.
Robert b. winn
Lying again?
You seem to be saying that you do not believe the Bible.
Robert B. Winn
Sure don't.
So how do you think that makes you unique?
Robert b. winn
It doesn't. It puts me in a large and growing group that understands
basic logic and common sense, that can do research and find out that you
are deliberately misquoting a verse for your own personal reasons.
--
--sexkitten--Bend the facts to fit the conclusion. It's easier that way.
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
11 Jun 2004 06:54:35 PM |
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2iqtr5Fq8cdrU11@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ins4hFp1u87U5@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2iiktsFncfg2U2@uni-berlin.de>...
Robert B. Winn wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cae26a.37713079@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:49:17 -0700,
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