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"TerryG" |
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31 May 2004 08:38:42 AM |
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Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
How many ways can the left wing liberals say, "because I said so".
Apparently not enough to keep liberal talk radio on the air. I just
hope they spend every last nickel they have.
Don't you just love the concluding quote from Al Franken at the end of
the following article: ""Imagine how we're going to do when we know
what we're doing". Well left wing liberals so seldom know what they
are doing about anything, why should talk radio be any different? How
they're running their feeble attempt at syndicated radio is exactly
how they run everything in their lives. Can you imagine these people
running the country? "It's a little fuzzy to me exactly who's in
charge.'' Yeh, right !!!!!!
Read on and enjoy, my fellow conservatives out there.
Office Politics Give Liberal Radio a Rocky Start
By JACQUES STEINBERG
ven by the chaotic standards of a new media company, Air America
Radio's first two months of broadcasting have been convulsive.
The fledgling talk-radio network has replaced five top executives,
been taken off the air in two of its top three markets and lost
several crucial producers. By late April, current and former
executives said last week, the company was perilously close to running
out of money. It has since received an infusion of cash, though it has
not disclosed how much or from whom.
The roiling in Air America's front office has undercut its continuing
assurances that it has the financing and leadership to survive past
the presidential election in November, in pursuit of its goal of
establishing a permanent liberal counterpart to Rush Limbaugh and his
radio cohort on the right.
In a sign that the privately held company's financial woes have not
fully abated, Al Franken, the network's best-known star, said in an
interview last week that he had agreed not to draw a salary, however
temporarily, making him "an involuntary investor.''
"We had some bad management,'' Mr. Franken said. "Then we got some
good management.''
Still, Mr. Franken, his tongue only partly in cheek, added, "It's a
little fuzzy to me exactly who's in charge.''
The turmoil has shed light on the network's corporate culture, laying
bare a mismatched collection of managers and investors, including
Democratic Party fund-raisers, Internet entrepreneurs and radio
veterans who, as it turned out, did not get along especially well.
Even as the network was finding an audience with its blend of humor
and commentary, many of the principals' business relationships were
dissolving in a flurry of charges and countercharges. The most serious
concerned how much money Air America actually had on hand when it went
on the air on March 31.
In early March, the network's chief executive, Mark Walsh, said that
the company had raised more than $20 million, enough to keep it
broadcasting for months, if not years, before making a profit. At the
time, Mr. Walsh said that the network's primary backers included Evan
M. Cohen, a venture capitalist who was the network's chairman, and Rex
Sorensen, a business partner of Mr. Cohen's who was the chairman of
Progress Media, the parent company of Air America.
But in an interview on Friday, Mr. Walsh said: "I was misled about
that number.'' Mr. Walsh refused to say who had misled him, but he
said that he had resigned in April because "the company wasn't
transparent'' and "I was unable to decipher how it was being
operated.''
Less than a month later, Mr. Cohen and Mr. Sorensen, who had
previously operated radio stations together in Guam and Saipan,
resigned under pressure from the company's other investors. David
Goodfriend, who served as general counsel and later as acting chief
operating officer of Air America, resigned about a week ago, having
done his best, he said, to hold the company together in the wake of
the departures of Mr. Cohen, Mr. Sorensen and Mr. Walsh. (Separately,
Dave Logan, executive vice president for programming, also left, in
late April.)
Jon Sinton, the president of Air America and one of the few top
executives who remains from the day it went on the air, underscored
Mr. Walsh's comments by saying, in a separate interview, that he, too,
had been misled about the company's resources and that a cash crunch
had ensued as a result.
"Financing wasn't as available for operational issues as we'd thought
it was,'' he said. Reached on Friday, Mr. Cohen declined to comment on
the state of the company's finances under his watch.
Despite the intrigue concerning its management - and the abrupt
pulling of its programming last month from stations in Chicago and Los
Angeles, in a contract dispute - there are early indications that,
where it can be heard, Air America is actually drawing listeners.
WLIB-AM in New York City, one of 13 stations that carry at least part
of Air America's 16 hours of original programming each day, even
appears to be holding its own with WABC-AM, the New York City station
and talk radio powerhouse that is Mr. Limbaugh's flagship.
For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet,
the network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a
percentage of listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3
p.m. on weekdays, according to the company's extrapolation of figures
provided by Arbitron for the three months ended in April. (Arbitron,
which does not provide ratings in monthly increments, said the
network's methodology appeared sound, although such figures were too
raw to translate to numbers of listeners.)
By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an
average share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age
group. That time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh
was pitted head to head against Mr. Franken.
Phil Boyce, the program director of WABC , cautioned against drawing
conclusions from preliminary data. "If they end up doing that well
when the final number is out, which is two more months, I'll give them
a congratulations," Mr. Boyce said.
While the network is awaiting the release of similar figures from
Arbitron for other cities, KPOJ-AM, the Clear Channel station that
carries its programming in Portland, Ore., informed Air America
executives by an e-mail message in late April that its ratings
appeared to have tripled last month, according to the station's
informal survey. (A station executive, Mary Lou Gunn, did not return a
telephone message left at her office on Friday.)
The network, which is also carried on the satellite radio providers XM
and Sirius, has found an audience on the Internet. In its first week,
listeners clicked on the audio programming on the Air America Web site
more than two million times, according to RealNetworks, the digital
media provider.
"It's clear the audience is there,'' Mr. Franken said.
The conventional wisdom in the radio industry had been that, unlike
the conservatives who dominate commercial talk radio, liberals could
not entice and hold listeners.
"This shows there's an appetite out there,'' said Tom Taylor, editor
of Inside Radio, an industry newsletter whose publisher is owned by
Clear Channel. "There's a good chance they'll right the ship
businesswise and keep going forward.''
In addition to Mr. Franken, the Air America lineup includes Janeane
Garofalo, an actress and comedian, and Lizz Winstead, a former head
writer of "The Daily Show'' on Comedy Central.
Air America's stumble outside the studio in its early weeks was partly
a function of the ambitious task it had assigned itself. While Mr.
Limbaugh quickly found a niche on AM radio beginning in the late
1980's - he is now heard on more than 600 stations - he began
syndicating his program at a time when AM radio was thought to be
dying, thus presenting him little competition.
Now, in an era of media consolidation, AM and FM stations alike are
thriving. Few are for sale (Air America had initially hoped to buy
five, but has yet to buy one), and few have enough air time available
for lease or barter to accommodate Air America's block of programming.
But interviews with more than a dozen people currently or formerly
affiliated with Air America made clear that the network had been
hobbled by the failure of its early principals - some of whom had been
drawn to the venture by ideology, others for business reasons - to
forge common ground.
The idea for a liberal talk-radio network was first hatched by Sheldon
and Anita Drobny, venture capitalists from the Chicago area who had a
lot of experience raising money for the Democratic Party but no real
radio expertise. They were led to Mr. Sinton, who has 30 years
experience in the radio business, and Mr. Franken, who has made a
cottage industry of writing best-selling books that skewer the right.
In Air America's current incarnation, Mr. Sinton, the president,
reports to the network's new chief executive, Doug Kreeger, an early
investor whose entrepreneurial efforts have included founding a chain
of outerwear stores (Kreeger & Sons) and investing in a New York
restaurant (City Bakery).
For chief operating officer, the company has selected Carl Ginsburg, a
former news producer at NBC and CBS. Ms. Drobny is its chairwoman, Mr.
Sinton said.
Mr. Sinton said that the company was seeking to expand the number of
stations carrying its programming - which includes Burlington, Vt.;
West Palm Beach, Fla.; and Sacramento - to new markets in Colorado
Springs, Santa Cruz, Calif., and Reno, Nev. It is also seeking new
outlets in Chicago and Los Angeles, having settled its contractual
dispute with the owner of the stations where it had first leased air
time.
Mr. Sinton and Mr. Franken refused to say how much money the network
had now, but said they had received assurances that the network would
have no problem staying on the air through November, and beyond.
"No one is promising things they can't promise,'' Mr. Franken said.
"But it appears to me that from the other people that are stepping up,
the financing will be in place.'' He added: "Imagine how we're going
to do when we know what we're doing.''
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
06 Jun 2004 04:32:14 AM |
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On 4 Jun 2004 05:46:33 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
06 Jun 2004 04:23:18 PM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cbe3c6.38061023@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:46:33 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
-- Craig Chilton < >
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon. Repentance is
the one word that is always on topic. Say nothing but repentance unto
this generation.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
06 Jun 2004 08:47:28 PM |
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(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406061323.30588bdb@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cbe3c6.38061023@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:46:33 -0700,
Robert B. Winn < > wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Then you have no problem with me or Craig telling the truth and
calling you a loon, since neither of us have killed any children, and
you know it. After all, even after all the help I gave you, down to
providing you with addresses and phone numbers, you still have not
called the cops to report those supposed killings that you keep
accusing me of.
Repentance is
the one word that is always on topic.
So, when are you going to repent your constant lies, or your
oppressive and dictatorial agenda to subjugate and harm women? Craig
has not reason to repent telling the truth.
Say nothing but repentance unto
this generation.
Robert B. Winn
And what does "this generation" need to repent? And why do they need
to repent? Because you say so? That is not a good reason. Because
people are doing things in line with their own beliefs but against
yours? That is not a reason for them to repent either. Because they
tell yo the truth, and you cannot abide by the truth? No reason to
repent being truthful.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
08 Jun 2004 07:28:54 PM |
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(Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0406061747.1baf847e@posting.google.com>...
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406061323.30588bdb@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cbe3c6.38061023@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:46:33 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Then you have no problem with me or Craig telling the truth and
calling you a loon, since neither of us have killed any children, and
you know it. After all, even after all the help I gave you, down to
providing you with addresses and phone numbers, you still have not
called the cops to report those supposed killings that you keep
accusing me of.
Repentance is
the one word that is always on topic.
So, when are you going to repent your constant lies, or your
oppressive and dictatorial agenda to subjugate and harm women? Craig
has not reason to repent telling the truth.
Say nothing but repentance unto
this generation.
Robert B. Winn
And what does "this generation" need to repent? And why do they need
to repent? Because you say so? That is not a good reason. Because
people are doing things in line with their own beliefs but against
yours? That is not a reason for them to repent either. Because they
tell yo the truth, and you cannot abide by the truth? No reason to
repent being truthful.
Mark Sebree
I just want to be there when you explain your rules to Jesus Christ.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
10 Jun 2004 04:26:51 PM |
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(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406081628.681d7ca7@posting.google.com>...
sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0406061747.1baf847e@posting.google.com>...
(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406061323.30588bdb@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cbe3c6.38061023@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:46:33 -0700,
Robert B. Winn < > wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Then you have no problem with me or Craig telling the truth and
calling you a loon, since neither of us have killed any children, and
you know it. After all, even after all the help I gave you, down to
providing you with addresses and phone numbers, you still have not
called the cops to report those supposed killings that you keep
accusing me of.
Repentance is
the one word that is always on topic.
So, when are you going to repent your constant lies, or your
oppressive and dictatorial agenda to subjugate and harm women? Craig
has not reason to repent telling the truth.
Say nothing but repentance unto
this generation.
Robert B. Winn
And what does "this generation" need to repent? And why do they need
to repent? Because you say so? That is not a good reason. Because
people are doing things in line with their own beliefs but against
yours? That is not a reason for them to repent either. Because they
tell you the truth, and you cannot abide by the truth? No reason to
repent being truthful.
Mark Sebree
I just want to be there when you explain your rules to Jesus Christ.
Robert B. Winn
Since they are based on the Golden Rule, he should have no trouble
with them. You will have more trouble explaining your hateful lies
and oppressive agenda.
However, this is your usual dodge when faced with a truth that you
cannot answer. You run away and hide behind your religion, instead of
addressing the point. Why should I have to worry about explaining
something to someone that has been dead for almost 2000 years, or more
likely, never really existed at all?
Since you have run away, and refused to answer the queations, we can
make some reasonable assumptions. You don't have any problem with me
or Craig telling the truth about you. You have no intention to repent
for your hateful lies or your oppressive and dictatorial agenda. You
know of no reason why this generation needs to repent.
Since you refuse to answer the direct questions, we must assume that
you don't have answers. And since you cannot defend your hateful
accusations, we can assume that those accusations are false.
And you wonder why you are known as a loon.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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11 Jun 2004 06:52:03 PM |
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(Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0406101326.6ca4e244@posting.google.com>...
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406081628.681d7ca7@posting.google.com>...
(Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0406061747.1baf847e@posting.google.com>...
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406061323.30588bdb@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40cbe3c6.38061023@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 4 Jun 2004 05:46:33 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Then you have no problem with me or Craig telling the truth and
calling you a loon, since neither of us have killed any children, and
you know it. After all, even after all the help I gave you, down to
providing you with addresses and phone numbers, you still have not
called the cops to report those supposed killings that you keep
accusing me of.
Repentance is
the one word that is always on topic.
So, when are you going to repent your constant lies, or your
oppressive and dictatorial agenda to subjugate and harm women? Craig
has not reason to repent telling the truth.
Say nothing but repentance unto
this generation.
Robert B. Winn
And what does "this generation" need to repent? And why do they need
to repent? Because you say so? That is not a good reason. Because
people are doing things in line with their own beliefs but against
yours? That is not a reason for them to repent either. Because they
tell you the truth, and you cannot abide by the truth? No reason to
repent being truthful.
Mark Sebree
I just want to be there when you explain your rules to Jesus Christ.
Robert B. Winn
Since they are based on the Golden Rule, he should have no trouble
with them. You will have more trouble explaining your hateful lies
and oppressive agenda.
However, this is your usual dodge when faced with a truth that you
cannot answer. You run away and hide behind your religion, instead of
addressing the point. Why should I have to worry about explaining
something to someone that has been dead for almost 2000 years, or more
likely, never really existed at all?
Since you have run away, and refused to answer the queations, we can
make some reasonable assumptions. You don't have any problem with me
or Craig telling the truth about you. You have no intention to repent
for your hateful lies or your oppressive and dictatorial agenda. You
know of no reason why this generation needs to repent.
Since you refuse to answer the direct questions, we must assume that
you don't have answers. And since you cannot defend your hateful
accusations, we can assume that those accusations are false.
And you wonder why you are known as a loon.
Mark Sebree
I think it would be wonderful if you and Craig started telling the
truth, but I do not expect it to happen any time soon. I think that
this generation would do well to repent of these homicides of children
by abortion.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
14 Jun 2004 09:29:55 AM |
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(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406111552.19c1f17d@posting.google.com>...
sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0406101326.6ca4e244@posting.google.com>...
(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406081628.681d7ca7@posting.google.com>...
sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0406061747.1baf847e@posting.google.com>...
[snip for brevity]
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Then you have no problem with me or Craig telling the truth and
calling you a loon, since neither of us have killed any children, and
you know it. After all, even after all the help I gave you, down to
providing you with addresses and phone numbers, you still have not
called the cops to report those supposed killings that you keep
accusing me of.
Repentance is
the one word that is always on topic.
So, when are you going to repent your constant lies, or your
oppressive and dictatorial agenda to subjugate and harm women? Craig
has not reason to repent telling the truth.
Say nothing but repentance unto
this generation.
Robert B. Winn
And what does "this generation" need to repent? And why do they need
to repent? Because you say so? That is not a good reason. Because
people are doing things in line with their own beliefs but against
yours? That is not a reason for them to repent either. Because they
tell you the truth, and you cannot abide by the truth? No reason to
repent being truthful.
Mark Sebree
I just want to be there when you explain your rules to Jesus Christ.
Robert B. Winn
Since they are based on the Golden Rule, he should have no trouble
with them. You will have more trouble explaining your hateful lies
and oppressive agenda.
However, this is your usual dodge when faced with a truth that you
cannot answer. You run away and hide behind your religion, instead of
addressing the point. Why should I have to worry about explaining
something to someone that has been dead for almost 2000 years, or more
likely, never really existed at all?
Since you have run away, and refused to answer the queations, we can
make some reasonable assumptions. You don't have any problem with me
or Craig telling the truth about you. You have no intention to repent
for your hateful lies or your oppressive and dictatorial agenda. You
know of no reason why this generation needs to repent.
Since you refuse to answer the direct questions, we must assume that
you don't have answers. And since you cannot defend your hateful
accusations, we can assume that those accusations are false.
And you wonder why you are known as a loon.
Mark Sebree
I think it would be wonderful if you and Craig started telling the
truth,
We have been all along. You just cannot stand to see the truth.
but I do not expect it to happen any time soon.
We have been doing that all along. I cannot help it if you are
willfully blind.
I think that
this generation would do well to repent of these homicides of children
by abortion.
Robert B. Winn
Children are not harmed by abortion, since all children have been
born. Therefore, since there have been no homicides of children via
abortion, since that is a patent impossibility, there is no reason for
this generation to repent for it.
This is the truth. And the truth is that nobody is subject to obeying
your personal opinion, especially when you are know to be a chronic
liar.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
06 Jun 2004 09:04:48 PM |
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On 6 Jun 2004 14:23:18 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Whoopie-ding! If you ever manage to locate such a person, I'd be
very curious to know just HOW you propose not to let him do that. But
considering the paucity of such people in the population, you could
probably live for about a hundred lifetimes without ever running
across one.
Meanwhile, you ARE a loon. And anyone who reads your posts
can see that very readily.
Repentance is the one word that is always on topic.
Wrong. It's relevant only when the topic being dicussed relates
to it.
Hey!! Come to think of it... this one does! You could REPENT of
beong a hateful and sociopathic bigot, and then begin SUPPORTING
human rights, instead of making such a total ***** of yourself!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
08 Jun 2004 09:04:40 AM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40c4c704.772860@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 6 Jun 2004 14:23:18 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Whoopie-ding! If you ever manage to locate such a person, I'd be
very curious to know just HOW you propose not to let him do that. But
considering the paucity of such people in the population, you could
probably live for about a hundred lifetimes without ever running
across one.
Meanwhile, you ARE a loon. And anyone who reads your posts
can see that very readily.
Repentance is the one word that is always on topic.
Wrong. It's relevant only when the topic being dicussed relates
to it.
Hey!! Come to think of it... this one does! You could REPENT of
beong a hateful and sociopathic bigot, and then begin SUPPORTING
human rights, instead of making such a total ***** of yourself!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@
Your idea of human rights is that immoral people should have the right
to do whatever they want to do, including killing children.
Robert B. winn
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
08 Jun 2004 10:09:44 PM |
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On 8 Jun 2004 07:04:40 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Whoopie-ding! If you ever manage to locate such a person, I'd be
very curious to know just HOW you propose not to let him do that. But
considering the paucity of such people in the population, you could
probably live for about a hundred lifetimes without ever running
across one.
Meanwhile, you ARE a loon. And anyone who reads your posts
can see that very readily.
Repentance is the one word that is always on topic.
Wrong. It's relevant only when the topic being dicussed relates
to it.
Hey!! Come to think of it... this one does! You could REPENT of
beong a hateful and sociopathic bigot, and then begin SUPPORTING
human rights, instead of making such a total ***** of yourself!
Your idea of human rights is...
<LIE-sni>
...being FAIR to people, and DEFENDING their personal
and private liberties against bigoted land ignorant loons who make
asses of themselves by POINTLESSLY seeking to *destroy* liberties.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "TerryG" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
09 Jun 2004 07:45:59 AM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40ea7e5e.112768686@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 07:04:40 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Whoopie-ding! If you ever manage to locate such a person, I'd be
very curious to know just HOW you propose not to let him do that. But
considering the paucity of such people in the population, you could
probably live for about a hundred lifetimes without ever running
across one.
Meanwhile, you ARE a loon. And anyone who reads your posts
can see that very readily.
Repentance is the one word that is always on topic.
Wrong. It's relevant only when the topic being dicussed relates
to it.
Hey!! Come to think of it... this one does! You could REPENT of
beong a hateful and sociopathic bigot, and then begin SUPPORTING
human rights, instead of making such a total ***** of yourself!
Your idea of human rights is...
<LIE-sni>
....claiming that a human person does not exist until he or she has
been declared to exist by a woman and completely passed thru her magic
birth canal.
-- Craig Chilton < >
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "TerryG" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
09 Jun 2004 07:32:47 AM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40ea7e5e.112768686@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 07:04:40 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Whoopie-ding! If you ever manage to locate such a person, I'd be
very curious to know just HOW you propose not to let him do that. But
considering the paucity of such people in the population, you could
probably live for about a hundred lifetimes without ever running
across one.
Meanwhile, you ARE a loon. And anyone who reads your posts
can see that very readily.
Repentance is the one word that is always on topic.
Wrong. It's relevant only when the topic being dicussed relates
to it.
Hey!! Come to think of it... this one does! You could REPENT of
beong a hateful and sociopathic bigot, and then begin SUPPORTING
human rights, instead of making such a total ***** of yourself!
Your idea of human rights is...
<LIE-sni>
...being FAIR to people, and DEFENDING their personal
and private liberties against bigoted land ignorant loons who make
asses of themselves by POINTLESSLY seeking to *destroy* liberties.
-- Craig Chilton < >
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
You don't have to use your real name, Chilton. The Most Important One
would know who you are anyway.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
13 Jun 2004 07:35:24 AM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40ea7e5e.112768686@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 07:04:40 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Whoopie-ding! If you ever manage to locate such a person, I'd be
very curious to know just HOW you propose not to let him do that. But
considering the paucity of such people in the population, you could
probably live for about a hundred lifetimes without ever running
across one.
Meanwhile, you ARE a loon. And anyone who reads your posts
can see that very readily.
Repentance is the one word that is always on topic.
Wrong. It's relevant only when the topic being dicussed relates
to it.
Hey!! Come to think of it... this one does! You could REPENT of
beong a hateful and sociopathic bigot, and then begin SUPPORTING
human rights, instead of making such a total ***** of yourself!
Your idea of human rights is...
<LIE-sni>
...being FAIR to people, and DEFENDING their personal
and private liberties against bigoted land ignorant loons who make
asses of themselves by POINTLESSLY seeking to *destroy* liberties.
-- Craig Chilton < >
Right to life seems like a liberty to me. You have completely done
away with that right.
What about right to trial by jury? I go to court next week before one
of your pro-abortion judges who have been denying right to trial by
jury for more than thirty years, ever since Justice Thurgood Marshall
first expressed his support for denial of trial by jury in a Supreme
Court minority opinion.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
09 Jun 2004 08:14:09 AM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40ea7e5e.112768686@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 07:04:40 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Whoopie-ding! If you ever manage to locate such a person, I'd be
very curious to know just HOW you propose not to let him do that. But
considering the paucity of such people in the population, you could
probably live for about a hundred lifetimes without ever running
across one.
Meanwhile, you ARE a loon. And anyone who reads your posts
can see that very readily.
Repentance is the one word that is always on topic.
Wrong. It's relevant only when the topic being dicussed relates
to it.
Hey!! Come to think of it... this one does! You could REPENT of
beong a hateful and sociopathic bigot, and then begin SUPPORTING
human rights, instead of making such a total ***** of yourself!
Your idea of human rights is...
<LIE-sni>
...being FAIR to people, and DEFENDING their personal
and private liberties against bigoted land ignorant loons who make
asses of themselves by POINTLESSLY seeking to *destroy* liberties.
-- Craig Chilton < >
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
We have noticed how fair you are to people who have not been born yet.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
10 Jun 2004 04:36:20 PM |
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(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406090514.454f58e5@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40ea7e5e.112768686@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 07:04:40 -0700,
Robert b. Winn < > wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn < > wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert B. Winn < > wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"TerryG" <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if you were moral you wouldn't blame others because
they point out that you lie.
What was that word you used? MORAL??? What a joke.
Here's a question you can once again ignore. What is the
source of your sense of morality. He won't answer, folks,
because he has no source. No source, no morality. Not
rocket science.
Ray has a brain. Which clearly is more than generally can
be said for you. And with a well-functioning brain means comes
common sense. Practicing the the Golden Rule is common
sense. And if a person practices *that* consistently, he IS moral.
Oh! You mean treat others as you would have them treat you.
Gee, I wonder how all those millions of aborted [z/e/f] feel about the
treatment then received.
Precisely the SAME, no doubt as the QUADRILLION Stage 1
reproductive-process entities (gametes) which ALSO are human,
unique, and living **potential** people which are electively aborted
DAILY, worldwide... by MEN.
(Which, having NEVER had conscious awareness, give a flying
rat's ***** to the same degree that a BRICK does. Just like the other
3 reproductive-process stages.)
You know -- the ones that hypocritical loons like you NEVER try to
defend, while WHINING about the ones that are fewer in quantity by
trillions to one. (ROFTL!!!! People don't COME much more ignorant
than the average Anti-choice sociopath.)
A well functioning brain you say? I don't think so.
When it comes to common sense and social conscience, it probably
would take ten sociopaths like you to equal any ONE given sensible
egalitarian. More *accurately*, your statement SHOULD have read:
"A well functioning brain you say? I don't think."
There are writings and teachings that can assist one to be more
moral, such as the Bible (if you overlook such "minor" details as its
passages that condone slavery, order women and children to be
slaughtered, etc.), but true morality comes from WITHIN sensible
and fair-minded people.
Q.E.D.
Now, Craig, finding fault with other people is never going to justify
homicide. The principle that has to be put into effect is repentance.
Hey! LOON!!! Does the term "OFF-TOPIC" have any
meaning for you? Obviously NOT.
I don't allow people who kill children to call me loon.
Whoopie-ding! If you ever manage to locate such a person, I'd be
very curious to know just HOW you propose not to let him do that. But
considering the paucity of such people in the population, you could
probably live for about a hundred lifetimes without ever running
across one.
Meanwhile, you ARE a loon. And anyone who reads your posts
can see that very readily.
Repentance is the one word that is always on topic.
Wrong. It's relevant only when the topic being dicussed relates
to it.
Hey!! Come to think of it... this one does! You could REPENT of
beong a hateful and sociopathic bigot, and then begin SUPPORTING
human rights, instead of making such a total ***** of yourself!
Your idea of human rights is...
<LIE-sni>
...being FAIR to people, and DEFENDING their personal
and private liberties against bigoted land ignorant loons who make
asses of themselves by POINTLESSLY seeking to *destroy* liberties.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
We have noticed how fair you are to people who have not been born yet.
Robert B. Winn
More fair than you are to women that already have been born, it would
seem. You don't think that women that are pregnant should be allowed
to run their own lives. You think that they should be forced to
suffer unwanted pregnancies, and risk the multitude of dangers that
doing so entails.
At least Craig and I respect the rights of all people, and do not
think that anyone should have rights that force another person to
suffer. The fetus is accorded no more rights than any other person,
which means that it DOES NOT have the right to use another person's
body and harm that person against the person's will and without the
person's ongoing consent. The same as with any other person.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: Left Wing Liberals Can't give It Away |
11 Jun 2004 06:38:10 PM |
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(Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0406101336.2b7dd958@posting.google.com>...
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<7943568.0406090514.454f58e5@posting.google.com>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40ea7e5e.112768686@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 07:04:40 -0700,
Robert b. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> (GOOD RIDDANCE on
Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu | | | | | | | | |
