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"SC0TT" |
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03 Jun 2005 09:19:01 AM |
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liberal churches are dying |
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying -- and
conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of people are
opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of churches
that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are finding homes in
houses of worship that preach a more traditional and more demanding
religion. Churches that have ditched Christian doctrine in favor of an
unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform, like the
Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members -- while conservative
churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining members in record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
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| User: "Johnny" |
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03 Jun 2005 09:26:15 AM |
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"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying -- and
conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of people are
opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of churches
that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are finding homes
in houses of worship that preach a more traditional and more demanding
religion. Churches that have ditched Christian doctrine in favor of an
unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform, like the
Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members -- while
conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining members in
record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America seems to
be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems to be out of
whack.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
03 Jun 2005 11:42:03 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying -- and
conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of people are
opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of churches
that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are finding homes
in houses of worship that preach a more traditional and more demanding
religion. Churches that have ditched Christian doctrine in favor of an
unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform, like the
Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members -- while
conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining members in
record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America seems to
be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems to be out of
whack.
That's what it tells *you*, but then your history indicates you see what you
want to see, reality be damned.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Johnny" |
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03 Jun 2005 11:43:09 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying -- and
conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of people
are
opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of
churches
that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are finding homes
in houses of worship that preach a more traditional and more demanding
religion. Churches that have ditched Christian doctrine in favor of an
unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform, like the
Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members -- while
conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining members in
record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America seems
to
be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems to be out of
whack.
That's what it tells *you*, but then your history indicates you see what
you
want to see, reality be damned.
How do I see it differently from what it seems to be?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
05 Jun 2005 07:50:23 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying -- and
conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of people
are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of
churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are
finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more traditional and
more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched Christian doctrine in
favor of an unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform, like
the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members -- while
conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining members in
record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America seems
to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems to be out of
whack.
That's what it tells *you*, but then your history indicates you see what
you want to see, reality be damned.
How do I see it differently from what it seems to be?
It's obvious that your opinion is not shared by others, for a start.
Therefore, it would help if you'd quit assuming your opinion is the default
for anything.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
04 Jun 2005 03:04:57 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhdgeens4.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying --
and conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of
people are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are
streaming out of churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good,
Do It, and are finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more
traditional and more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched
Christian doctrine in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the >
Democratic Party platform, like the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are
hemorrhaging members - while conservative churches like the Southern
Baptists are gaining members in record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America
seems to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems
to be out of whack.
That's what it tells you, but then your history indicates you see what
you want to see, reality be damned.
How do I see it differently from what it seems to be?
Well, you're still blaming just about everything wrong with America today
on Roe v. Wade, regardless of whether it had anything to do with your
insanity of the moment or not...
--PLH, testing another newsreader
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| User: "Johnny" |
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04 Jun 2005 10:58:31 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:1OWdnbFleK00_TzfRVn-hw@io.com...
Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhdgeens4.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying --
and conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of
people are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are
streaming out of churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good,
Do It, and are finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more
traditional and more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched
Christian doctrine in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the >
Democratic Party platform, like the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are
hemorrhaging members - while conservative churches like the Southern
Baptists are gaining members in record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America
seems to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems
to be out of whack.
That's what it tells you, but then your history indicates you see what
you want to see, reality be damned.
How do I see it differently from what it seems to be?
Well, you're still blaming just about everything wrong with America today
on Roe v. Wade, regardless of whether it had anything to do with your
insanity of the moment or not...
Why would a diversion from the law not cause problems?
--PLH, testing another newsreader
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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04 Jun 2005 04:34:49 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:1OWdnbFleK00_TzfRVn-hw@io.com...
Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhdgeens4.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying --
and conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of
people are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are
streaming out of churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good,
Do It, and are finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more
traditional and more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched
Christian doctrine in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the >
Democratic Party platform, like the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are
hemorrhaging members - while conservative churches like the Southern
Baptists are gaining members in record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America
seems to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems
to be out of whack.
That's what it tells you, but then your history indicates you see what
you want to see, reality be damned.
How do I see it differently from what it seems to be?
Well, you're still blaming just about everything wrong with America today
on Roe v. Wade, regardless of whether it had anything to do with your
insanity of the moment or not...
Why would a diversion from the law not cause problems?
In this obsession of yours, the particular law IS the problem. RvW fixed that
32 years ago.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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04 Jun 2005 12:30:23 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:1OWdnbFleK00_TzfRVn-hw@io.com...
Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhdgeens4.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying --
and conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of
people are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are
streaming out of churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good,
Do It, and are finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more
traditional and more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched
Christian doctrine in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the >
Democratic Party platform, like the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are
hemorrhaging members - while conservative churches like the Southern
Baptists are gaining members in record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America
seems to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems
to be out of whack.
That's what it tells you, but then your history indicates you see what
you want to see, reality be damned.
How do I see it differently from what it seems to be?
Well, you're still blaming just about everything wrong with America today
on Roe v. Wade, regardless of whether it had anything to do with your
insanity of the moment or not...
Why would a diversion from the law not cause problems?
That's another example: You refuse to accept that laws forcing women
to gestate and give birth were ilegal and unconstitutional.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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04 Jun 2005 12:55:06 PM |
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"gay Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:1OWdnbFleK00_TzfRVn-hw@io.com...
Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkhdgeens4.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying --
and conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of
people are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are
streaming out of churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels
Good,
Do It, and are finding homes in houses of worship that preach a
more
traditional and more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched
Christian doctrine in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the >
Democratic Party platform, like the Episcopalians and Unitarians,
are
hemorrhaging members - while conservative churches like the
Southern
Baptists are gaining members in record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America
seems to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary
seems
to be out of whack.
That's what it tells you, but then your history indicates you see
what
you want to see, reality be damned.
How do I see it differently from what it seems to be?
Well, you're still blaming just about everything wrong with America
today
on Roe v. Wade, regardless of whether it had anything to do with your
insanity of the moment or not...
Why would a diversion from the law not cause problems?
That's another example: You refuse to accept that laws forcing women
to gestate and give birth were ilegal and unconstitutional.
You refuse to accept that abortion is murder.
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| User: "Dion" |
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03 Jun 2005 10:39:09 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%EZne.54321$CR5.1340@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying -- and
conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of people
are
opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of
churches
that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are finding homes
in houses of worship that preach a more traditional and more demanding
religion. Churches that have ditched Christian doctrine in favor of an
unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform, like the
Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members -- while
conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining members in
record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America seems
to
be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems to be out of
whack.
Maybe we could look at the moral fiber of the president. *W* has put us in a
war based on lies. Perhaps when we analyze our nations moral fiber we should
start at the fucking top. And dear people, remember, just because a guy goes
to church every week and tells us Jesus is his hero does not mean he is
really a good person. Best look at his actual deeds. Actions speak louder
than words.
Dion
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| User: "Johnny" |
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03 Jun 2005 11:30:14 AM |
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"Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying -- and
conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of people
are
opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of
churches
that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are finding
homes
in houses of worship that preach a more traditional and more demanding
religion. Churches that have ditched Christian doctrine in favor of an
unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform, like the
Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members -- while
conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining members in
record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America seems
to
be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems to be out of
whack.
Maybe we could look at the moral fiber of the president. *W* has put us in
a
war based on lies. Perhaps when we analyze our nations moral fiber we
should
start at the fucking top. And dear people, remember, just because a guy
goes
to church every week and tells us Jesus is his hero does not mean he is
really a good person. Best look at his actual deeds. Actions speak louder
than words.
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and look
at the statistics that followed.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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03 Jun 2005 11:46:39 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote in message
news:m96dnQED9col5D3fRVn-jg@giganews.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%EZne.54321$CR5.1340@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying -- and
conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of people
are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of
churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are
finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more traditional and
more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched Christian doctrine
in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform,
like the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members -- while
conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining members in
record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America seems
to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems to be out
of whack.
Maybe we could look at the moral fiber of the president. *W* has put us in
a war based on lies. Perhaps when we analyze our nations moral fiber we
should start at the fucking top. And dear people, remember, just because a
guy goes to church every week and tells us Jesus is his hero does not mean
he is really a good person. Best look at his actual deeds. Actions speak
louder than words.
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Johnny" |
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04 Jun 2005 12:02:17 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying --
and
conservative ones are booming
Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative
Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of
people
are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of
churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are
finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more traditional and
more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched Christian
doctrine
in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform,
like the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members --
while
conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining members
in
record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America
seems
to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems to be
out
of whack.
Maybe we could look at the moral fiber of the president. *W* has put us
in
a war based on lies. Perhaps when we analyze our nations moral fiber we
should start at the fucking top. And dear people, remember, just because
a
guy goes to church every week and tells us Jesus is his hero does not
mean
he is really a good person. Best look at his actual deeds. Actions speak
louder than words.
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance, and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
05 Jun 2005 07:52:43 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5r2enkg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying --
and conservative ones are booming Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing
Liberal Churches for Conservative Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of people
are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out of
churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are
finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more traditional and
more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched Christian doctrine
in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party platform,
like the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members --
while conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining
members in record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America
seems to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems to
be out of whack.
Maybe we could look at the moral fiber of the president. *W* has put us
in a war based on lies. Perhaps when we analyze our nations moral fiber
we should start at the fucking top. And dear people, remember, just
because a guy goes to church every week and tells us Jesus is his hero
does not mean he is really a good person. Best look at his actual
deeds. Actions speak louder than words.
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance, and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Very simply...since children, by definition, have been born. That's the one
detail your psychosis prevents you from noticing.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying --
and conservative ones are booming Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing
Liberal Churches for Conservative Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of
people
are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out
of
churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are
finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more traditional
and
more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched Christian
doctrine
in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party
platform,
like the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members --
while conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining
members in record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America
seems to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems
to
be out of whack.
Maybe we could look at the moral fiber of the president. *W* has put
us
in a war based on lies. Perhaps when we analyze our nations moral
fiber
we should start at the fucking top. And dear people, remember, just
because a guy goes to church every week and tells us Jesus is his hero
does not mean he is really a good person. Best look at his actual
deeds. Actions speak louder than words.
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance, and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Very simply...since children, by definition, have been born. That's the
one
detail your psychosis prevents you from noticing.
No living human fetus in utero was alive before it was aborted?
Wow.
Why is abortion even needed if that is the case?
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05 Jun 2005 10:21:08 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jh82tno.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
[...]
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance, and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Very simply...since children, by definition, have been born. That's the
one detail your psychosis prevents you from noticing.
No living human fetus in utero was alive before it was aborted?
Kindly address the issue. Your non-sequitur questions do nothing to support
your fraudulent crusade.
Wow. Why is abortion even needed if that is the case?
It's needed if the woman who's pregnant decides it is in her best interests.
Her reasoning is none of your (or my) business.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Johnny" |
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05 Jun 2005 10:24:28 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5r0187v.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jh82tno.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
[...]
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance, and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Very simply...since children, by definition, have been born. That's the
one detail your psychosis prevents you from noticing.
No living human fetus in utero was alive before it was aborted?
Kindly address the issue. Your non-sequitur questions do nothing to
support
your fraudulent crusade.
Wow. Why is abortion even needed if that is the case?
It's needed if the woman who's pregnant decides it is in her best
interests.
Her reasoning is none of your (or my) business.
"The ***** is back."?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
05 Jun 2005 10:40:57 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5r0187v.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jh82tno.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
[...]
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance, and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Very simply...since children, by definition, have been born. That's the
one detail your psychosis prevents you from noticing.
No living human fetus in utero was alive before it was aborted?
Kindly address the issue. Your non-sequitur questions do nothing to
support your fraudulent crusade.
Wow. Why is abortion even needed if that is the case?
It's needed if the woman who's pregnant decides it is in her best
interests. Her reasoning is none of your (or my) business.
"The ***** is back."?
Is there any rational reason your obsession du jour is implying that anyone
who disagrees with your insanity is gay? I'm straighter than you are, or will
ever be...and I know who I am enough to not be terrified of anyone who's not
just like me. I hope you're returned to the AOP center, and soon.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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06 Jun 2005 07:36:46 PM |
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:14:53 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jh82tno.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5r2enkg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote in message
news:m96dnQED9col5D3fRVn-jg@giganews.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%EZne.54321$CR5.1340@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
"SC0TT" <beefeeate@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8OdnVLurJNU-z3fRVn-vg@intertex.net...
Why, in this age of moral relativism, liberal churches are dying --
and conservative ones are booming Exodus: Why Americans Are Fleeing
Liberal Churches for Conservative Christianity
by David Shiflett
It's a trend: in this anything-goes age, ever larger numbers of
people
are opting for tougher moral standards. Millions are streaming out
of
churches that preach the Gospel of If It Feels Good, Do It, and are
finding homes in houses of worship that preach a more traditional
and
more demanding religion. Churches that have ditched Christian
doctrine
in favor of an unremitting advocacy of the Democratic Party
platform,
like the Episcopalians and Unitarians, are hemorrhaging members --
while conservative churches like the Southern Baptists are gaining
members in record numbers.
http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6667
All of which tells us that the moral fiber of the people of America
seems to be ok while the moral fiber of the nation's judiciary seems
to
be out of whack.
Maybe we could look at the moral fiber of the president. *W* has put
us
in a war based on lies. Perhaps when we analyze our nations moral
fiber
we should start at the fucking top. And dear people, remember, just
because a guy goes to church every week and tells us Jesus is his hero
does not mean he is really a good person. Best look at his actual
deeds. Actions speak louder than words.
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance, and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Very simply...since children, by definition, have been born. That's the
one
detail your psychosis prevents you from noticing.
No living human fetus in utero...
You said "children." You never said anything about foetuses.
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07 Jun 2005 07:07:48 AM |
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Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Somewriter <sappywriter@poetic.com>
whined and lied again:
[...]
Have you repented for your FORGERIES and SPAMMING yet?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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04 Jun 2005 12:27:55 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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04 Jun 2005 12:33:16 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
So you advocate killing babies?
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
You are the one advocating killing babies, you are the pervert.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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04 Jun 2005 12:33:18 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d7soar$pa3$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
Name one.
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
Very much untrue.
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
You should be telling yourself that.
If your sex weren't perverted you wouldn't even think about an abortion.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
04 Jun 2005 04:23:31 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d7soar$pa3$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
Name one.
Idiot. Do you name every zygote? (Never mind. You're easily insane enough
to make that claim.)
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
Very much untrue.
*****, South Carolina Crackpot: in equal numbers of women getting an
abortion and giving birth, the number of women who die in childbirth is going
to be about ten times greater. That statistic has held true in this country
since RvW.
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
You should be telling yourself that.
If your sex weren't perverted you wouldn't even think about an abortion.
That's pretty arrogant of you, considering YOU are a lifelong virgin...and
you're coming up on 44 next month. You don't play the game, so you don't get
to make the rules.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's already well known that you're not quite right in the head.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
04 Jun 2005 02:15:43 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
Name one.
*****.
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
Very much untrue.
You're a liar.
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
You should be telling yourself that.
Don't need to, pervert. YOU are the one demanding their obedience.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
04 Jun 2005 07:47:57 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d7suku$134$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
Name one.
*****.
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
Very much untrue.
You're a liar.
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
You should be telling yourself that.
Don't need to, pervert. YOU are the one demanding their obedience.
I do not demand their obedience.
I would rather demand yours.
That would solve the whole situation.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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05 Jun 2005 08:21:26 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d7suku$134$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
Name one.
*****.
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
Very much untrue.
You're a liar.
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
You should be telling yourself that.
Don't need to, pervert. YOU are the one demanding their obedience.
I do not demand their obedience.
No, you whine because no one will bother with doing as you demand, because
it's not exactly a secret that you're certifiably crazy.
I would rather demand yours. That would solve the whole situation.
You've been demanding it all along...and no one's bothering to obey you. Try
your "idea" on your neighbors. Even you might learn something from that
experience.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (soon to be TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
05 Jun 2005 03:52:44 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d7suku$134$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
Name one.
*****.
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
Very much untrue.
You're a liar.
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
You should be telling yourself that.
Don't need to, pervert. YOU are the one demanding their obedience.
I do not demand their obedience.
Stop lying, *****. YOU demand that women gestate and give birth.
YOU demand their abject servitude, their suffering, and even their
deaths.
I would rather demand yours.
That's because you're a murderous *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
05 Jun 2005 03:59:42 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d7vomr$mb6$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d7suku$134$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision
and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
Name one.
*****.
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
Very much untrue.
You're a liar.
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
You should be telling yourself that.
Don't need to, pervert. YOU are the one demanding their obedience.
I do not demand their obedience.
Stop lying, *****. YOU demand that women gestate and give birth.
When did I say that, you false witness?
You never heard of condoms?
YOU demand their abject servitude, their suffering, and even their
deaths.
I do?
I would rather demand yours.
That's because you're a murderous *****.
How so?
Do you have me confused with someone else?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: liberal churches are dying |
05 Jun 2005 04:17:59 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d7vomr$mb6$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d7suku$134$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Maybe we should look back to 1973 and the Supreme Court's decision
and
look
at the statistics that followed.
You mean like the ones that indicate abortion is still an order of
magnitude
less likely to cause death than childbirth?
How can something which causes at least one death in every instance,
Like a condom causes millions of deaths.
Name one.
*****.
and
sometimes two deaths, cause less death than childbirth?
Because fewer people die of abortion than childbirth.
Very much untrue.
You're a liar.
Women aren't your slaves, pervert.
You should be telling yourself that.
Don't need to, pervert. YOU are the one demanding their obedience.
I do not demand their obedience.
Stop lying, *****. YOU demand that women gestate and give birth.
When did I say that, you false witness?
Every tiem you insist that women should not be allowed to decide what
happens with thier own bodies.
You never heard of condoms?
Condoms don't do anything to a pregnancy, moron.
YOU demand their abject servitude, their suffering, and even their
deaths.
I do?
Yes.
I would rather demand yours.
That's because you're a murderous *****.
How so?
Idiot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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