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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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15 Jul 2006 11:11:44 AM |
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Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1665362/posts
Globe and Mail Op Ed Propaganda for Renewal of Eugenics
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/13/06 | Hilary White
Posted on 07/13/2006 5:57:14 PM PDT by wagglebee
TORONTO, July 13, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In an op ed intended by
the Globe and Mail to be a sympathy piece, a Toronto woman, who
identified herself as C. Smyth, told the story of her intention to
abort her 19 week old daughter because the child was diagnosed by a
geneticist as having a chromosomal disorder. The child, said Smyth, did
not meet her and her husband's standards or fulfill their dreams of
having a child athelete.
She says their 19 week-old "miracle" is "tragically flawed:"
the child, she is told will have a "significantly lower functioning
than other children," and the decision to abort was difficult. She
cried when told the child was a girl.
40 year-old Smyth writes that she and her 45 year-old lawyer husband do
not "feel capable of raising a severely disabled child. It would be
different if we didn't have a choice, but we do."
She describes herself and her husband as financially secure yuppies,
professional, with university degrees, who own their own mortgage-free
house, and who are fit, healthy and looking 10 years younger than their
age.
Smyth writes, "Isn't it more cruel to bring a child burdened with so
many disadvantages into the world?"
People with Down's syndrome and other developmental disabilities and
their families are becoming increasingly alarmed at the growing
popularity of the eugenics philosophy typified by the Globe piece.
Disabled rights groups have said that a societal attitude has grown
that people with Down's syndrome or other disabilities are better off
dead.
Smyth bluntly admits that before she had undergone the IVF treatment
that conceived her child, she and her husband had already ruled out the
question of Down's syndrome. "We had already decided if it was a
Down syndrome baby (one in 30 chance for a mother over 40) we wouldn't
continue."
She assumes that everyone agrees that Down's syndrome is so horrible
that even her devoutly Christian mother would agree. "I thought even
my church-going mother (who goes door-to-door collecting money for
those who are anti-abortion, and their pro-life campaign) could forgive
that."
She describes the actual killing of her daughter equally bluntly. "On
the third day, when the cervix has dilated, the doctor clears out the
uterus: the evacuation."
Letters to the editor have appeared in the Globe today decrying the
slide towards a new eugenics. Jeremy Jay wrote from Victoria saying
that the piece illustrates a shift in the attitudes towards abortion
from a debate over the right to life to deciding which children are fit
enough to deserve life.
Michael G. Ceci, said "her account gives no consolation to women
struggling with the knowledge that their yet unborn child is
developmentally disabled." He pointed out that having this
chromosomal disorder is not necessarily a life sentence for the mother,
nor should it result in a death sentence for the child.
The piece appeared in the Globe and Mail at the time that the powerful
Silent No More Campaign opened in Toronto, where women share their
regret at having had an abortion. It also coincides with a
Parliamentary effort by Liberal Party MP Paul Steckle to criminalize
abortion after 20 weeks gestation.
It is also significant that the Globe produced this anonymous piece at
the same time Health Canada is developing regulations under the
Assisted Human Reproduction Act to define which genetic disorders are
allowed to be screened in IVF embryos. Health Canada is calling for
public input on the regulations (see contact information below.)
The Catholic Organization for Life and Family made a presentation to
Health Canada pointing out the essential moral flaw of a genetic
screening of embryos in IVF labs.
COLF wrote that preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) is always a
threat to the dignity of human life. "PGD inherently disrespects the
dignity and worth of human life, since it is performed in order to
select the most genetically perfect embryos while discarding those that
are deemed undesirable."
"Parents, doctors, and society become the evaluators of the future
worth and quality of the lives of existing embryos, and the arbitrators
of life or death for these embryonic human beings."
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| User: "junegill" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
15 Jul 2006 06:59:20 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1152979904.686598.20560@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1665362/posts
Globe and Mail Op Ed Propaganda for Renewal of Eugenics
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/13/06 | Hilary White
Posted on 07/13/2006 5:57:14 PM PDT by wagglebee
TORONTO, July 13, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In an op ed intended by
the Globe and Mail to be a sympathy piece, a Toronto woman, who
identified herself as C. Smyth, told the story of her intention to
abort her 19 week old daughter because the child was diagnosed by a
geneticist as having a chromosomal disorder. The child, said Smyth, did
not meet her and her husband's standards or fulfill their dreams of
having a child athelete.
She says their 19 week-old "miracle" is "tragically flawed:"
the child, she is told will have a "significantly lower functioning
than other children," and the decision to abort was difficult. She
cried when told the child was a girl.
40 year-old Smyth writes that she and her 45 year-old lawyer husband do
not "feel capable of raising a severely disabled child. It would be
different if we didn't have a choice, but we do."
She describes herself and her husband as financially secure yuppies,
professional, with university degrees, who own their own mortgage-free
house, and who are fit, healthy and looking 10 years younger than their
age.
Smyth writes, "Isn't it more cruel to bring a child burdened with so
many disadvantages into the world?"
People with Down's syndrome and other developmental disabilities and
their families are becoming increasingly alarmed at the growing
popularity of the eugenics philosophy typified by the Globe piece.
Disabled rights groups have said that a societal attitude has grown
that people with Down's syndrome or other disabilities are better off
dead.
Smyth bluntly admits that before she had undergone the IVF treatment
that conceived her child, she and her husband had already ruled out the
question of Down's syndrome. "We had already decided if it was a
Down syndrome baby (one in 30 chance for a mother over 40) we wouldn't
continue."
She assumes that everyone agrees that Down's syndrome is so horrible
that even her devoutly Christian mother would agree. "I thought even
my church-going mother (who goes door-to-door collecting money for
those who are anti-abortion, and their pro-life campaign) could forgive
that."
She describes the actual killing of her daughter equally bluntly. "On
the third day, when the cervix has dilated, the doctor clears out the
uterus: the evacuation."
Letters to the editor have appeared in the Globe today decrying the
slide towards a new eugenics. Jeremy Jay wrote from Victoria saying
that the piece illustrates a shift in the attitudes towards abortion
from a debate over the right to life to deciding which children are fit
enough to deserve life.
Michael G. Ceci, said "her account gives no consolation to women
struggling with the knowledge that their yet unborn child is
developmentally disabled." He pointed out that having this
chromosomal disorder is not necessarily a life sentence for the mother,
nor should it result in a death sentence for the child.
The piece appeared in the Globe and Mail at the time that the powerful
Silent No More Campaign opened in Toronto, where women share their
regret at having had an abortion. It also coincides with a
Parliamentary effort by Liberal Party MP Paul Steckle to criminalize
abortion after 20 weeks gestation.
It is also significant that the Globe produced this anonymous piece at
the same time Health Canada is developing regulations under the
Assisted Human Reproduction Act to define which genetic disorders are
allowed to be screened in IVF embryos. Health Canada is calling for
public input on the regulations (see contact information below.)
The Catholic Organization for Life and Family made a presentation to
Health Canada pointing out the essential moral flaw of a genetic
screening of embryos in IVF labs.
COLF wrote that preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) is always a
threat to the dignity of human life. "PGD inherently disrespects the
dignity and worth of human life, since it is performed in order to
select the most genetically perfect embryos while discarding those that
are deemed undesirable."
"Parents, doctors, and society become the evaluators of the future
worth and quality of the lives of existing embryos, and the arbitrators
of life or death for these embryonic human beings."
Yeah, let's force parents to live through what my husband and I had to do.
There's more to life than cleaning faeces every day for year. See:
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/autism/autism.html
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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| User: "Peter Barber" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
15 Jul 2006 07:13:51 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet cut and pasted:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1665362/posts
Globe and Mail Op Ed Propaganda for Renewal of Eugenics
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/13/06 | Hilary White
Posted on 07/13/2006 5:57:14 PM PDT by wagglebee
TORONTO, July 13, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In an op ed intended by
the Globe and Mail to be a sympathy piece, a Toronto woman, who
identified herself as C. Smyth, told the story of her intention to
abort her 19 week old daughter <snip>
One can't abort a 19-week-old daughter. Try again!
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| User: "Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
15 Jul 2006 02:06:55 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
40 year-old Smyth writes that she and her 45 year-old lawyer husband do
not "feel capable of raising a severely disabled child. It would be
different if we didn't have a choice, but we do."
Quite frankly it's non of your business. If you want to influence the
decision then stump up the $1/2M needed to fund the child through to 21,
otherwise STFU and keep your nose out.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
15 Jul 2006 02:55:31 PM |
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"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44b93bf8$0$4385$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
40 year-old Smyth writes that she and her 45 year-old lawyer husband do
not "feel capable of raising a severely disabled child. It would be
different if we didn't have a choice, but we do."
Quite frankly it's non of your business. If you want to influence the
decision then stump up the $1/2M needed to fund the child through to 21,
otherwise STFU and keep your nose out.
Do what?
Why can't they buy health insurance like every other person they make pay
for such?
In Canada they have nationalized health care, right?
Are you telling me the government of Canada is against spending health care
dollars for health care?
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| User: "Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
15 Jul 2006 04:51:31 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44b93bf8$0$4385$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
40 year-old Smyth writes that she and her 45 year-old lawyer husband do
not "feel capable of raising a severely disabled child. It would be
different if we didn't have a choice, but we do."
Quite frankly it's non of your business. If you want to influence the
decision then stump up the $1/2M needed to fund the child through to 21,
otherwise STFU and keep your nose out.
Do what?
Why can't they buy health insurance like every other person they make pay
for such?
pay for what exactly? Be specific.
In Canada they have nationalized health care, right?
No idea, do you?
Are you telling me the government of Canada is against spending health care
dollars for health care?
No idea, can you tell me?
Are you ignorant or just stupid?
Health care covers exactly what it says, health care. It DOESN'T cover
the costs of bringing up a kid.
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Not everyone lives the way you do with not having sex unless it's to
produce a sprog, get that through your head. If you want people to live
the way you do, then pay the $1/2M for each sprog you want.
Responsibility doesn't end where you force people to give birth, it
extends to that child's age of maturity (21?).
Why am I even talking to you? You're gay! You've been with a man you
sick fucker
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| User: "Johnny" |
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15 Jul 2006 08:32:06 PM |
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"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44b9628c$0$5232$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
Johnny wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44b93bf8$0$4385$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
40 year-old Smyth writes that she and her 45 year-old lawyer husband do
not "feel capable of raising a severely disabled child. It would be
different if we didn't have a choice, but we do."
Quite frankly it's non of your business. If you want to influence the
decision then stump up the $1/2M needed to fund the child through to 21,
otherwise STFU and keep your nose out.
Do what?
Why can't they buy health insurance like every other person they make pay
for such?
pay for what exactly?
Health insurance.
Be specific.
In Canada they have nationalized health care, right?
No idea, do you?
AFAIK, Canada has nationalized health care.
Are you telling me the government of Canada is against spending health
care dollars for health care?
No idea, can you tell me?
Are you ignorant or just stupid?
Health care covers exactly what it says, health care. It DOESN'T cover the
costs of bringing up a kid.
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
Why do you think people who had no part in creating a child are supposed to
pay for it?
Not everyone lives the way you do with not having sex unless it's to
produce a sprog, get that through your head.
Problem with your brain is you forgot how children are created.
If you want people to live the way you do, then pay the $1/2M for each
sprog you want.
Not an option.
I am not responsible for the children you create.
Get *that* through your head.
You are not entitled to tax me to take care of your children.
Responsibility doesn't end where you force people to give birth, it
extends to that child's age of maturity (21?).
Can you give birth?
Why am I even talking to you?
Asking me or yourself?
You're gay!
Since when?
You've been with a man you
When?
sick fucker
You, obviously.
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15 Jul 2006 09:06:53 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to. You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
You're just a lazy ***** loser who has to tell other people how to
run their lives because you've been such a screwup with your own life.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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15 Jul 2006 09:24:47 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're just a lazy ***** loser
The disrespectful attitude of the Pro-Choicer shows.
who has to tell other people how to
run their lives because you've been such a screwup with your own life.
*****.
You are Pro-Choice.
Why would anyone be Pro-Choice who didn't need an abortion?
LOL!
Seems to me the real screw ups are all you disrespectful Pro-Choicers.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
16 Jul 2006 12:29:17 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by your
nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then it's only
fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and anyone
can Google that proclamation of yours.
You're just a lazy ***** loser
The disrespectful attitude of the Pro-Choicer shows.
Pointing out your cognitive dissonance isn't disrespect. No one's forcing you
to hang around here and read what others think of you.
who has to tell other people how to
run their lives because you've been such a screwup with your own life.
*****.
You are Pro-Choice.
Why would anyone be Pro-Choice who didn't need an abortion?
LOL!
Seems to me the real screw ups are all you disrespectful Pro-Choicers.
You really need to quit abusing whatever drugs you're taking, Wentzky - I've
been pro-choice going on three-eighths of a century, and I will *never* need
an abortion, for reasons so obvious even you might figure them out.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
16 Jul 2006 08:51:28 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared
to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by
your
nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then it's
only
fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****.
Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and
anyone
can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM ***** OR ABORTION ON DEMAND ADVOCATE!
The lazy perverted wimpy assholes are the men who started and continue the
god damnably unjust thievery and killing of abortion on demand and the piece
of ***** WIC program.
You're just a lazy ***** loser
The disrespectful attitude of the Pro-Choicer shows.
Pointing out your cognitive dissonance isn't disrespect.
Still using that term?
No one's forcing you
to hang around here and read what others think of you.
*****.
As you ***** about 'forcing' women to have babies and making their parents
take care of them the god damned government forces me to read all you
perverts' messages every day that ROE V WADE is the law of the land.
who has to tell other people how to
run their lives because you've been such a screwup with your own life.
*****.
You are Pro-Choice.
Why would anyone be Pro-Choice who didn't need an abortion?
LOL!
Seems to me the real screw ups are all you disrespectful Pro-Choicers.
You really need to quit abusing whatever drugs you're taking, Wentzky -
I've
been pro-choice going on three-eighths of a century, and I will *never*
need
an abortion, for reasons so obvious even you might figure them out.
You really need to learn something and stop living in a blind state that
will cause destruction upon so many persons.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
16 Jul 2006 11:33:30 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by
your nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then it's
only fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****.
Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
So why don't you stick a sock in your fat mouth and quit trying to force YOUR
"choices" on them?
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and
anyone can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
Guess what, Sherlock...I'm just one of a number of witnesses to that
particular insanity of yours. Like I said, anyone can Google that for
themselves. Why are you ashamed of what YOU said?
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM ***** OR ABORTION ON DEMAND ADVOCATE!
You're a delusional ***** in South Carolina, to keep it short.
The lazy perverted wimpy assholes are the men who started and continue the
god damnably unjust thievery and killing of abortion on demand and the piece
of ***** WIC program.
What's gotten up your ***** this time, with this obsession with WIC?
You're just a lazy ***** loser
The disrespectful attitude of the Pro-Choicer shows.
Pointing out your cognitive dissonance isn't disrespect.
Still using that term?
It's a concise description of much of your waste of bandwidth.
No one's forcing you to hang around here and read what others think of you.
*****.
As you ***** about 'forcing' women to have babies and making their parents
take care of them the god damned government forces me to read all you
perverts' messages every day that ROE V WADE is the law of the land.
Thanks for confirming (like the other few thousand times) that you are Just.
Plain. NUTS.
who has to tell other people how to
run their lives because you've been such a screwup with your own life.
*****. You are Pro-Choice. Why would anyone be Pro-Choice who didn't
need an abortion? LOL! Seems to me the real screw ups are all you
disrespectful Pro-Choicers.
You really need to quit abusing whatever drugs you're taking, Wentzky -
I've been pro-choice going on three-eighths of a century, and I will
*never* need an abortion, for reasons so obvious even you might figure them
out.
You really need to learn something and stop living in a blind state that
will cause destruction upon so many persons.
Not because of your psychotic fantasies, Skippy. You're so divorced from
reality you could throw yourself at the ground - and miss. Normal people will
get the meaning. You never will.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
17 Jul 2006 10:09:47 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared
to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by
your nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then it's
only fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****.
Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
So why don't you stick a sock in your fat mouth and quit trying to force
YOUR
"choices" on them?
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay
for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and
anyone can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
Guess what, Sherlock...I'm just one of a number of witnesses to that
particular insanity of yours. Like I said, anyone can Google that for
themselves. Why are you ashamed of what YOU said?
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM ***** OR ABORTION ON DEMAND ADVOCATE!
You're a delusional ***** in South Carolina, to keep it short.
Do you often get ***** because the scumbag oligarchy is so ugly now?
Is it a problem for you that your taskmasters are so disrespected?
LOL!
I mean, why is it you Pro-Choice idiots think you deserve any respect?
The lazy perverted wimpy assholes are the men who started and continue the
god damnably unjust thievery and killing of abortion on demand and the
piece
of ***** WIC program.
What's gotten up your ***** this time, with this obsession with WIC?
If they want payments from SSA they need to pay into it to qualify for the
payments that are provided by the formulas, and not siphon the SSA funds for
unqualified deadbeats.
You're just a lazy ***** loser
The disrespectful attitude of the Pro-Choicer shows.
Pointing out your cognitive dissonance isn't disrespect.
Still using that term?
It's a concise description of much of your waste of bandwidth.
Cognitive is correct.
Dissonance is what occurs via the thievery and deadbeat wasteland policies.
No one's forcing you to hang around here and read what others think of
you.
*****.
As you ***** about 'forcing' women to have babies and making their parents
take care of them the god damned government forces me to read all you
perverts' messages every day that ROE V WADE is the law of the land.
Thanks for confirming (like the other few thousand times) that you are
Just.
Plain. NUTS.
Weirdos think peiople who aren't for the choice to kill babies are nuts.
who has to tell other people how to
run their lives because you've been such a screwup with your own life.
*****. You are Pro-Choice. Why would anyone be Pro-Choice who
didn't
need an abortion? LOL! Seems to me the real screw ups are all you
disrespectful Pro-Choicers.
You really need to quit abusing whatever drugs you're taking, Wentzky -
I've been pro-choice going on three-eighths of a century, and I will
*never* need an abortion, for reasons so obvious even you might figure
them
out.
You really need to learn something and stop living in a blind state that
will cause destruction upon so many persons.
Not because of your psychotic fantasies, Skippy. You're so divorced from
reality you could throw yourself at the ground - and miss. Normal people
will
get the meaning. You never will.
Normal to you is sex,drugs, rock n roll, woodstock, acid days, abortion on
demand. gay rights.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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17 Jul 2006 07:11:31 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xmshmud.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared
to fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by
your nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL! You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then it's
only fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****. Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
So why don't you stick a sock in your fat mouth and quit trying to force
YOUR "choices" on them?
No surprise that you decided to shut up on *that* question.
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and
anyone can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
Guess what, Sherlock...I'm just one of a number of witnesses to that
particular insanity of yours. Like I said, anyone can Google that for
themselves. Why are you ashamed of what YOU said?
No answer again? That's Johnny One-Note Wentzky for you.
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM ***** OR ABORTION ON DEMAND ADVOCATE!
You're a delusional ***** in South Carolina, to keep it short.
Do you often get ***** because the scumbag oligarchy is so ugly now?
No, since that's your fantasy, and still your problem.
Is it a problem for you that your taskmasters are so disrespected?
LOL!
What taskmasters? Are you still smoking enough crack to believe the *****
you assert?
I mean, why is it you Pro-Choice idiots think you deserve any respect?
Maybe because we have a tendency to be for the rights of people to make their
own decisions without having to have them approved by lunatics like you.
The lazy perverted wimpy assholes are the men who started and continue the
god damnably unjust thievery and killing of abortion on demand and the
piece of ***** WIC program.
What's gotten up your ***** this time, with this obsession with WIC?
If they want payments from SSA they need to pay into it to qualify for the
payments that are provided by the formulas, and not siphon the SSA funds for
unqualified deadbeats.
You keep "forgetting" that you don't decide who qualifies for SSA...and by
your own bankrupt reasoning, why couldn't SSA decide to cut *you* off, if
they're as you bellow they are?
You're just a lazy ***** loser
The disrespectful attitude of the Pro-Choicer shows.
Pointing out your cognitive dissonance isn't disrespect.
Still using that term?
It's a concise description of much of your waste of bandwidth.
Cognitive is correct.
Cognitive is something you rarely achieve, and then only by sheer luck - based
on your ramblings online.
Dissonance is what occurs via the thievery and deadbeat wasteland policies.
....says the welfare leech who's openly refused to work for the last dozen
years or so.
No one's forcing you to hang around here and read what others think of
you.
*****. As you ***** about 'forcing' women to have babies and making
their parents take care of them the god damned government forces me to read
all you perverts' messages every day that ROE V WADE is the law of the
land.
Thanks for confirming (like the other few thousand times) that you are
Just. Plain. NUTS.
Weirdos think peiople who aren't for the choice to kill babies are nuts.
Really? Last time I looked, a woman choosing to give birth is making a
choice...it's her decision to make, and I support her right to make that
decision. That's why I'm pro-choice, like a few tens of millions of your
fellow Americans.
who has to tell other people how to
run their lives because you've been such a screwup with your own life.
*****. You are Pro-Choice. Why would anyone be Pro-Choice who didn't
need an abortion? LOL! Seems to me the real screw ups are all you
disrespectful Pro-Choicers.
You really need to quit abusing whatever drugs you're taking, Wentzky -
I've been pro-choice going on three-eighths of a century, and I will
*never* need an abortion, for reasons so obvious even you might figure
them out.
You really need to learn something and stop living in a blind state that
will cause destruction upon so many persons.
Not because of your psychotic fantasies, Skippy. You're so divorced from
reality you could throw yourself at the ground - and miss. Normal people
will get the meaning. You never will.
Normal to you is sex,drugs, rock n roll, woodstock, acid days, abortion on
demand. gay rights.
Free clue for you, Foamy: this ain't 1969 any more (and besides, you were too
young to even be wondering about that, at the time). You have no idea of what
"normal" is for anyone but you, and you're anything *but* normal to the vast
majority of the rest of this society. Quit whining because you're going to be
a perpetual virgin...you made the choice, so you get to deal with the
consequences, just like it works for everyone else.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
17 Jul 2006 07:44:54 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkbqrnn558.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xmshmud.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be
prepared
to fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to
understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately,
by
your nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from
your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL! You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then
it's
only fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****. Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
So why don't you stick a sock in your fat mouth and quit trying to force
YOUR "choices" on them?
No surprise that you decided to shut up on *that* question.
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay
for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade,
and
anyone can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
Guess what, Sherlock...I'm just one of a number of witnesses to that
particular insanity of yours. Like I said, anyone can Google that for
themselves. Why are you ashamed of what YOU said?
No answer again? That's Johnny One-Note Wentzky for you.
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM ***** OR ABORTION ON DEMAND ADVOCATE!
You're a delusional ***** in South Carolina, to keep it short.
Do you often get ***** because the scumbag oligarchy is so ugly now?
No, since that's your fantasy, and still your problem.
Is it a problem for you that your taskmasters are so disrespected?
LOL!
What taskmasters? Are you still smoking enough crack to believe the
*****
you assert?
Good for you if you haev no taskmasters.
I mean, why is it you Pro-Choice idiots think you deserve any respect?
Maybe because we have a tendency to be for the rights of people to make
their
own decisions without having to have them approved by lunatics like you.
*****. Pro-Choicers are intolerant hatefilled, easily offended idiots who
do NOT allow others to make their own choices.
I know for a fact they are wicked evil underling, scum who become offended
at the first mention of their records regarding their mistakes they made.
Their entire philosophy is abortion and then making lies to cover their
asses.
The lazy perverted wimpy assholes are the men who started and continue
the
god damnably unjust thievery and killing of abortion on demand and the
piece of ***** WIC program.
What's gotten up your ***** this time, with this obsession with WIC?
If they want payments from SSA they need to pay into it to qualify for the
payments that are provided by the formulas, and not siphon the SSA funds
for
unqualified deadbeats.
You keep "forgetting" that you don't decide who qualifies for SSA
The rules were in place before WIC was allowed to steal from SSA and that
after abortion on demand began in California and New York.
...and by your own bankrupt reasoning, why couldn't SSA decide to cut *you*
off, if
they're as you bellow they are?
Cut me off for what?
Do you mean since I'm not some golddigging ***** who needs WIC payments
after making a porno and didn't have an abortion?
You're just a lazy ***** loser
The disrespectful attitude of the Pro-Choicer shows.
Pointing out your cognitive dissonance isn't disrespect.
Still using that term?
It's a concise description of much of your waste of bandwidth.
Cognitive is correct.
Cognitive is something you rarely achieve, and then only by sheer luck -
based
on your ramblings online.
Dissonance is what occurs via the thievery and deadbeat wasteland
policies.
...says the welfare leech who's openly refused to work for the last dozen
years or so.
No one's forcing you to hang around here and read what others think of
you.
*****. As you ***** about 'forcing' women to have babies and making
their parents take care of them the god damned government forces me to
read
all you perverts' messages every day that ROE V WADE is the law of the
land.
Thanks for confirming (like the other few thousand times) that you are
Just. Plain. NUTS.
Weirdos think peiople who aren't for the choice to kill babies are nuts.
Really? Last time I looked, a woman choosing to give birth is making a
choice...it's her decision to make, and I support her right to make that
decision.
What choice is needed to give birth?
You make birth seem like an elective.
The only choice that can be made is to have the abortion.
No choice is necessary to carry the child to term or to miscarriage.
Abortion is active.
Birth is passive.
That's why I'm pro-choice, like a few tens of millions of your
fellow Americans.
You are deceived by their platitudes, imo.
who has to tell other people how to
run their lives because you've been such a screwup with your own
life.
*****. You are Pro-Choice. Why would anyone be Pro-Choice who
didn't
need an abortion? LOL! Seems to me the real screw ups are all you
disrespectful Pro-Choicers.
You really need to quit abusing whatever drugs you're taking,
Wentzky -
I've been pro-choice going on three-eighths of a century, and I will
*never* need an abortion, for reasons so obvious even you might figure
them out.
You really need to learn something and stop living in a blind state that
will cause destruction upon so many persons.
Not because of your psychotic fantasies, Skippy. You're so divorced
from
reality you could throw yourself at the ground - and miss. Normal
people
will get the meaning. You never will.
Normal to you is sex,drugs, rock n roll, woodstock, acid days, abortion on
demand. gay rights.
Free clue for you, Foamy: this ain't 1969 any more
You so sure?
We've been stuck in this same thing for so long, you think the setup has
changed?
(and besides, you were too young to even be wondering about that, at the
time).
I was watching Wallace and Nixon back then.
You have no idea of what "normal" is for anyone but you, and you're
anything *but* normal to the vast
majority of the rest of this society. Quit whining because you're going
to be
a perpetual virgin...you made the choice, so you get to deal with the
consequences, just like it works for everyone else.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
18 Jul 2006 12:24:13 AM |
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(Once again, trimmed to only what Wentzky could be bothered to whine at)
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkbqrnn558.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
[...]
Is it a problem for you that your taskmasters are so disrespected?
LOL!
What taskmasters? Are you still smoking enough crack to believe the
***** you assert?
Good for you if you haev no taskmasters.
Everyone has taskmasters. Apparently, the only one you have is internal, and
you can't even obey *that* one very much.
I mean, why is it you Pro-Choice idiots think you deserve any respect?
Maybe because we have a tendency to be for the rights of people to make
their own decisions without having to have them approved by lunatics like
you.
*****. Pro-Choicers are intolerant hatefilled, easily offended idiots who
do NOT allow others to make their own choices.
Really? You don't have a right to make choices for anyone else without their
consent, particularly on this issue. You need to pull your head out of your
fat ***** and realize that no one is subject to your delusions.
I know for a fact they are wicked evil underling, scum who become offended
at the first mention of their records regarding their mistakes they made.
You know very little, compared to what you think you know.
Their entire philosophy is abortion and then making lies to cover their
asses.
Quit smoking crack, already. You still can't figure out what YOU think, let
alone what anyone else may be thinking.
[...]
If they want payments from SSA they need to pay into it to qualify for the
payments that are provided by the formulas, and not siphon the SSA funds
for unqualified deadbeats.
You keep "forgetting" that you don't decide who qualifies for SSA
The rules were in place before WIC was allowed to steal from SSA and that
after abortion on demand began in California and New York.
Quit your bitching. You don't make the rules. End of story.
...and by your own bankrupt reasoning, why couldn't SSA decide to cut *you*
off, if they're as you bellow they are?
Cut me off for what?
You're the crackhead who all but stated SSA shouldn't be given to those *you*
deem unworthy, so by your own reasoning (if you can call it that), what would
keep them from drop-kicking you? You obviously don't think about what you
rant.
Do you mean since I'm not some golddigging ***** who needs WIC payments
after making a porno and didn't have an abortion?
You're obviously in need of cash to spend on the drugs you're abusing, judging
by your fanciful assertions.
[...]
Weirdos think peiople who aren't for the choice to kill babies are nuts.
Really? Last time I looked, a woman choosing to give birth is making a
choice...it's her decision to make, and I support her right to make that
decision.
What choice is needed to give birth?
The same one that's needed to do anything. Life is the sum of our choices,
and the attendant consequences. Evidently, you've really buggered some of
*your* choices.
You make birth seem like an elective.
It's a decision...and the woman who's pregnant still gets the final decision
on it. I'm one of those who think that her choice far outweighs your whining.
The only choice that can be made is to have the abortion.
She can also choose to give birth, moron. Be glad your mother made that
choice.
No choice is necessary to carry the child to term or to miscarriage.
If you believe that, there's no hope for you having a life in society.
Abortion is active. Birth is passive.
Both of them are choices, idiot. You're just whining because you don't get to
dictate either one for any woman.
That's why I'm pro-choice, like a few tens of millions of your
fellow Americans.
You are deceived by their platitudes, imo.
You're the crackhead, Wentzky. I've never recommended abortion *or* birth,
but I defend the woman's right to make her own choice. If that's too cerebral
for what's left of your mentality, that's not my problem.
[...]
Normal to you is sex,drugs, rock n roll, woodstock, acid days, abortion on
demand. gay rights.
Free clue for you, Foamy: this ain't 1969 any more
You so sure?
Having lived through the three-eighths of a century since then, I'm damned
sure.
We've been stuck in this same thing for so long, you think the setup has
changed?
You've been certified insane for so long, you have no idea of how reality's
been doing since you were eight.
(and besides, you were too young to even be wondering about that, at the
time).
I was watching Wallace and Nixon back then.
Big deal. I was watching for four days in November after JFK got killed in
Dallas. Six years later, I was a teenager - only fourteen, but old enough to
know quite a bit of what was going on at Woodstock. The sexual revolution was
in full bloom, but I waited until I was ready, and that turned out to be the
next to last year of college, in my case (in other words, the start of 1976).
I've been watching news since the start of the 1960s, and while I wish the old
journalism would come back with a vengeance as far as the broadcast networks
are concerned, I'm not complaining about the rise of the net, which makes news
all the more accessible (and brings with it the responsibility to have the
ability to not trust blindly in what any source says).
That aside, what's your point, besides that you're a frothing loon who'd have
trouble predicting the direction of the next sunrise?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
17 Jul 2006 10:46:10 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
Cut me off for what?
Do you mean since I'm not some golddigging ***** who needs WIC payments
after making a porno and didn't have an abortion?
Again, we see Johnny's hated and disrespect for women. Johnny's his
own worst enemy....
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| User: "Anamika" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
18 Jul 2006 06:56:01 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
*****. Pro-Choicers are intolerant hatefilled,
Annoyed with control freaks, yes.
easily offended idiots
Aren't we all.
who
do NOT allow others to make their own choices.
Whose choices are they depriving?
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
18 Jul 2006 09:44:06 AM |
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"Anamika" <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in message
news:1153223761.087380.54670@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
*****. Pro-Choicers are intolerant hatefilled,
Annoyed with control freaks, yes.
easily offended idiots
Aren't we all.
who
do NOT allow others to make their own choices.
Whose choices are they depriving?
They deprived mine in 1993, hypocrites, liars, uncompassionate, evil greedy
rich scumbags.
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| User: "Anamika" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
18 Jul 2006 10:50:58 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Anamika" <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in message
news:1153223761.087380.54670@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
*****. Pro-Choicers are intolerant hatefilled,
Annoyed with control freaks, yes.
easily offended idiots
Aren't we all.
who
do NOT allow others to make their own choices.
Whose choices are they depriving?
They deprived mine in 1993, hypocrites, liars, uncompassionate, evil greedy
rich scumbags.
I am not rich, and in 1993, I had better things to do than to interfer
with your life, so why are you taking your ***** out on me?
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
17 Jul 2006 03:31:20 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8xmshmud.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared
to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by
your nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then it's
only fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****.
Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
So why don't you stick a sock in your fat mouth and quit trying to force
YOUR
"choices" on them?
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay
for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and
anyone can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
Guess what, Sherlock...I'm just one of a number of witnesses to that
particular insanity of yours. Like I said, anyone can Google that for
themselves. Why are you ashamed of what YOU said?
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM ***** OR ABORTION ON DEMAND ADVOCATE!
You're a delusional ***** in South Carolina, to keep it short.
Do you often get ***** because the scumbag oligarchy is so ugly now?
Is it a problem for you that your taskmasters are so disrespected?
LOL!
I mean, why is it you Pro-Choice idiots think you deserve any respect?
What makes you think we want respect from lying, bigotted, woman-hating
pieces-of-***** like you?
The lazy perverted wimpy assholes are the men who started and continue the
god damnably unjust thievery and killing of abortion on demand and the
piece
of ***** WIC program.
What's gotten up your ***** this time, with this obsession with WIC?
If they want payments from SSA they need to pay into it to qualify for the
payments that are provided by the formulas, and not siphon the SSA funds for
unqualified deadbeats.
You're a deatbeat and a leech on society...
You're just a lazy ***** loser
The disrespectful attitude of the Pro-Choicer shows.
Pointing out your cognitive dissonance isn't disrespect.
Still using that term?
It's a concise description of much of your waste of bandwidth.
Cognitive is correct.
Dissonance is what occurs via the thievery and deadbeat wasteland policies.
Like your welfare check?
No one's forcing you to hang around here and read what others think of
you.
*****.
As you ***** about 'forcing' women to have babies and making their parents
take care of them the god damned government forces me to read all you
perverts' messages every day that ROE V WADE is the law of the land.
Thanks for confirming (like the other few thousand times) that you are
Just.
Plain. NUTS.
Weirdos think peiople who aren't for the choice to kill babies are nuts.
No, we think people who are nuts are nuts.
who has to tell other people how to
run their lives because you've been such a screwup with your own life.
*****. You are Pro-Choice. Why would anyone be Pro-Choice who
didn't
need an abortion? LOL! Seems to me the real screw ups are all you
disrespectful Pro-Choicers.
You really need to quit abusing whatever drugs you're taking, Wentzky -
I've been pro-choice going on three-eighths of a century, and I will
*never* need an abortion, for reasons so obvious even you might figure
them
out.
You really need to learn something and stop living in a blind state that
will cause destruction upon so many persons.
Not because of your psychotic fantasies, Skippy. You're so divorced from
reality you could throw yourself at the ground - and miss. Normal people
will
get the meaning. You never will.
Normal to you is sex,drugs, rock n roll, woodstock, acid days, abortion on
demand. gay rights.
Care to prove that? No? I didn't think so...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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| User: "Anamika" |
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18 Jul 2006 06:54:20 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
If they want payments from...
People with full-time jobs use WIC so their children aren't deprived of
the basics while covering the over basics.
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18 Jul 2006 09:44:48 AM |
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"Anamika" <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
If they want payments from...
People with full-time jobs use WIC so their children aren't deprived of
the basics while covering the over basics.
Who cares?
It is still stolen money from SS for abortion scum rulers.
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18 Jul 2006 10:06:28 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Anamika" <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in message
news:1153223660.437206.273550@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
If they want payments from...
People with full-time jobs use WIC so their children aren't deprived of
the basics while covering the over basics.
Who cares?
You couldn't care less about children - possibly because it's occurred to you
that you'll never father one.
It is still stolen money from SS for abortion scum rulers.
....and you're still a gibbering crackpot who is divorced from reality.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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| User: "Anamika" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
18 Jul 2006 06:52:14 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared
to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by
your
nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then it's
only
fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****.
Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
And if they are compelled to give birth by another party, said party is
responsible for the resulting child.
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and
anyone
can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM *****...
The people who use the program are pregnant women and young children.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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18 Jul 2006 08:55:04 AM |
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"Anamika" <starchaser@inorbit.com> writes:
Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be prepared
to fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by
your nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then it's
only fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****.
Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
And if they are compelled to give birth by another party, said party is
responsible for the resulting child.
He should be thankful he's basically non compos mentis, which means that's one
thing he'll never be charged with.
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and
anyone can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM *****...
The people who use the program are pregnant women and young children.
....and there will be none of those who exist because of anything Wentzky has
ever done, fortunately.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
18 Jul 2006 09:46:07 AM |
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"Anamika" <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in message
news:1153223534.885263.89870@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be
prepared
to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by
your
nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then
it's
only
fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****.
Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
And if they are compelled to give birth by another party, said party is
responsible for the resulting child.
Error on your part.
You make the baby, it is your responsibility, wicked underling and thief,
*****, *****, liar.
Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay
for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and
anyone
can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM *****...
The people who use the program are pregnant women and young children.
Which shows the program discriminates against men.
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| User: "Anamika" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
18 Jul 2006 10:49:27 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Anamika" <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in message
news:1153223534.885263.89870@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szky7uui0cy.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b99f3d$0$34504$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
If you want to force people to have kids then you should be
prepared
to
fucking pay for it. Is this REALLY too hard for you to understand?
Who forces people to create children?
You want to.
How so?
By ranting at everyone who might consider abortion. (Unfortunately, by
your
nonsensical definition, that includes anyone who differs from your
opinion.)
You want the government to force women to give birth to
children but you don't want to pay for it.
LOL!
You think I am supposed to pay for your children?
If you're going to use the State to force women to give birth, then
it's
only
fair you should be footing your share of the bill.
Wrong, *****.
Children are the responsibility of their PARENTS, *****.
And if they are compelled to give birth by another party, said party is
responsible for the resulting child.
Error on your part.
You make the baby, it is your responsibility,
It's the responsibility of any mother or father to take care of the
children they produce, and that includes getting when needed.
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Why? Are you such a lazy ***** wimp that you expect other people to pay
for
YOUR CHILDREN?
You're the lazy ***** who's refused to work at all for over a decade, and
anyone
can Google that proclamation of yours.
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM *****...
The people who use the program are pregnant women and young children.
Which shows the program discriminates against men.
WIC doesn't directly benefit all women, either. Why not argue that?
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| Title: Re: Liberal Propaganda For Renewal Of Eugenics |
18 Jul 2006 08:10:56 AM |
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 09:51:28 -0400, "Johnny"
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Spewed out his Christian love for poor women. Could it be
because none of the sluts will f**k him?
EAT YOUR ***** FOR BRAINS WORDS, IDIOT!
I am no THIEVING WIC PROGRAM ***** OR ABORTION ON DEMAND ADVOCATE!
The lazy perverted wimpy assholes are the men who started and continue the
god damnably unjust thievery and killing of abortion on demand and the piece
of ***** WIC program.
--
I happily admit to knowing that there are many good decent people
that are christians. And have the utmost respect and affection for
them.
However the big mouthed, small brained, self righteous, bigoted
majority are my enemies.
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