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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Xomicron"
Date: 21 Jul 2004 10:54:29 AM
Object: Liberal Worldview
Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and not
how the world really is. Yet despite all the real world examples of how
wrong the liberals are, why do they still persist in believing their
foolish ideals?
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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 05:08:26 PM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote

Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it
should be and not how the world really is.

America is & always has been about progress. I guess you're
saying that America, and all true American patriots, are
liberal.
.

User: "Mr. N"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 11:13:39 AM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and not
how the world really is.

Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals are

Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?

What 'foolish ideals' are those?
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User: "Xomicron"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 12:29:58 PM
"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and not
how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals are


Name some of those examples.

Just a few failed liberal ideas:
- Raising minimum wage
- Raising taxes on business and industry
- Affirmative Action
- Public education
- The Great Society
- Social engineering
- Free love
Modern liberalism is a failure, and the people who still believe in that
crap are just geezers with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana
peel.
Liberalism only appeals to people who have no hope for a future or are
easily duped or scared. They're a dying breed (thank gawd) and like the
fascists and communists before them, it's just a short matter of time
before they're slammed in history books as being an inherently stupid.
.
User: "bernard spilman"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 01:07:55 PM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and not
how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals are


Name some of those examples.


Just a few failed liberal ideas:

- Raising minimum wage

A great idea.

- Raising taxes on business and industry

Hell yeah!

- Affirmative Action

Not a liberal ideal. You lied,...again.

- Public education

You better believe it! We get your kids or you get jail.

- The Great Society

Would'a worked but for the right-wing war in SE Asia.

- Social engineering

A conservative goal. You lied yet again.

- Free love

Not for you.

Modern liberalism is a failure, and the people who still believe in that
crap are just geezers with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana
peel.

You are a failure. A grown man who calls himself Xomicron!? You wearin'
your Star Trek suit now?
WS
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User: "Xomicron"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 01:42:06 PM
"bernard spilman" <bspilmanNOSPAM@nc.rr.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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- Social engineering


A conservative goal. You lied yet again.

Liberals use the courts for social engineering by getting a sympathetic judge
to overturn the will of the people.
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User: "JD"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 23 Jul 2004 07:19:13 PM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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"bernard spilman" <bspilmanNOSPAM@nc.rr.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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- Social engineering


A conservative goal. You lied yet again.


Liberals use the courts for social engineering by getting a sympathetic

judge

to overturn the will of the people.

Indeed, the will of the people is what I want spurring on MY lynch mob.
Arf.
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User: "Henru! Rustic"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 22 Jul 2004 01:34:53 AM
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:42:06 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> blurted:

"bernard spilman" <bspilmanNOSPAM@nc.rr.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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- Social engineering


A conservative goal. You lied yet again.


Liberals use the courts for social engineering by getting a sympathetic judge
to overturn the will of the people.

Yep. Time for the Congress to crack the whip on those radical left-wing
judicial tyrants.
.

User: "BOB SD"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 02:22:02 PM
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in
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"bernard spilman" <bspilmanNOSPAM@nc.rr.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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- Social engineering


A conservative goal. You lied yet again.


Liberals use the courts for social engineering by getting a
sympathetic judge to overturn the will of the people.

Do you ever *think* before posting such obvious bs? It doesn't do much
for your credibilty, you know, that is if you ever had any.
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User: "Singleterry"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 01:29:38 PM
"bernard spilman" <bspilmanNOSPAM@nc.rr.com> wrote in
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You are a failure. A grown man who calls himself Xomicron!? You wearin'
your Star Trek suit now?

Xomicron = X + omicron
Omicron is a Greek letter. Boy you are an idiot.
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User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 02:01:30 PM
"Singleterry" <singleterry@aol.com> wrote in message
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"bernard spilman" <bspilmanNOSPAM@nc.rr.com> wrote in
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You are a failure. A grown man who calls himself Xomicron!? You wearin'
your Star Trek suit now?


Xomicron = X + omicron

And the significance of this, even if your interpretation is correct, would
be what, exactly? Just what, if anything, is "X + omicron" supposed to mean?
And what does it matter? Xomicron, Snubis (his former nym), what's the
difference? A troll by any name is still a troll.


Omicron is a Greek letter.

But 'Xomicron' isn't.

Boy you are an idiot.

If you're going to call someone else an idiot, you'd better make sure first
that you aren't one yourself. It'll do wonders for your credibility.
.
User: "John Starrett"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 02:53:40 PM
John Baker wrote:

"Singleterry" <singleterry@aol.com> wrote in message
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"bernard spilman" <bspilmanNOSPAM@nc.rr.com> wrote in
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You are a failure. A grown man who calls himself Xomicron!? You wearin'
your Star Trek suit now?


Xomicron = X + omicron



And the significance of this, even if your interpretation is correct, would
be what, exactly? Just what, if anything, is "X + omicron" supposed to mean?
And what does it matter? Xomicron, Snubis (his former nym), what's the
difference? A troll by any name is still a troll.

What the hell kind of name is "John Baker"? What is that supposed to mean?
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User: "Mr. N"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 12:56:06 PM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Just a few failed liberal ideas:

- Raising minimum wage

Has this failed? How?

- Raising taxes on business and industry

Has this failed? How?

- Affirmative Action

Depends on how you define it.

- Public education

Alive and strong all across America.

- The Great Society

Also alive and strong all across America.

- Social engineering

<laughter> You're talking about right-wing conservatives again.

- Free love

LOL. Hippie radical morons from the 60's, not "liberals" you fucking
jackass. FYI, the "swing" clubs in middle and upper-class neighborhoods all
over America are largely populated by Republicans.

Modern liberalism is a failure

What is "modern liberalism" and why is it a failure?

and the people who still believe in that crap

WHAT crap?

Liberalism

What is "liberalism"? Definition, please.

only appeals to people who have no hope for a future or are easily duped or

scared.
Once again, you are talking about right-wing conservatives.
They're a dying breed (thank gawd)
I'm not sure they exist at all.
--
-Mr. N
**********************
"I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and
say 'this is the way it's got to be'. . . . . I just don't think it's the
role of the United
States to walk into a country and say, we do it this way, so should you. . .
.. I think one way for us to end up being viewed as the ugly American is for
us to go around the world saying, we do it this way, so should you. Now,
we trust freedom. . . . but I think the United States must be humble and
must be proud and confident of our values, but humble in how we treat
nations that are figuring out how to chart their own course."
-George W. Bush - October 11, 2000
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User: "Xomicron"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 01:18:27 PM
"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Just a few failed liberal ideas:

- Raising minimum wage


Has this failed? How?

Raising the minimum wage raises the cost of doing business and the prices
of products to consumers. The resulting inflation takes away the advantage
of the higher minimum wage.

- Raising taxes on business and industry


Has this failed? How?

Taxes are part of costs. When costs go up the price of products must
increase to maintain profits. The consumer pays for the higher taxes, not
the industry. Increased costs of products help foreign competition, cost
jobs and encourage our manufacturers to move overseas.

- Affirmative Action


Depends on how you define it.

- Public education


Alive and strong all across America.

American public education is the laughingstock of the world.

- The Great Society


Also alive and strong all across America.

Yes, it is alive, but it still has been a failure. The funds provided
through that program weren't targeted to address specific problem. It
basically gave people two choices. They could work for poverty wages or
they could not work and still get poverty wages. For obvious reasons, many
choose the latter.

- Social engineering


<laughter> You're talking about right-wing conservatives again.

- Free love


LOL. Hippie radical morons from the 60's, not "liberals" you fucking
jackass.

You are ignorant if you don't think this attitude isn't live and well among
the left today. Who do you think the hippies grew up to be? Liberals.

FYI, the "swing" clubs in middle and upper-class neighborhoods
all over America are largely populated by Republicans.

How do you know? Have you done some sort of poll?
.
User: "JD"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 23 Jul 2004 07:17:18 PM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Just a few failed liberal ideas:

- Raising minimum wage


Has this failed? How?


Raising the minimum wage raises the cost of doing business and the prices
of products to consumers. The resulting inflation takes away the advantage
of the higher minimum wage.

- Raising taxes on business and industry


Has this failed? How?


Taxes are part of costs. When costs go up the price of products must
increase to maintain profits. The consumer pays for the higher taxes, not
the industry. Increased costs of products help foreign competition, cost
jobs and encourage our manufacturers to move overseas.

- Affirmative Action


Depends on how you define it.

- Public education


Alive and strong all across America.


American public education is the laughingstock of the world.

- The Great Society


Also alive and strong all across America.


Yes, it is alive, but it still has been a failure. The funds provided
through that program weren't targeted to address specific problem. It
basically gave people two choices. They could work for poverty wages or
they could not work and still get poverty wages. For obvious reasons,

many

choose the latter.

- Social engineering


<laughter> You're talking about right-wing conservatives again.




- Free love


LOL. Hippie radical morons from the 60's, not "liberals" you fucking
jackass.


You are ignorant if you don't think this attitude isn't live and well

among

the left today. Who do you think the hippies grew up to be? Liberals.

FYI, the "swing" clubs in middle and upper-class neighborhoods
all over America are largely populated by Republicans.


How do you know? Have you done some sort of poll?

Thanks for clearing all that up. I wish I had know long ago how simple it
all is. In the space of a few sentences you have completely changed the way
I think. Thanks.
Arf.
.


User: "Jez"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 22 Jul 2004 06:48:48 AM
Mr. N wrote:

"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Just a few failed liberal ideas:

- Raising minimum wage



Has this failed? How?


- Raising taxes on business and industry



Has this failed? How?

Anyone got Murdoch to pay any tax yet ??
He's earned about £1.5 billion here in the UK over ten years or so...
but hasn't payed us any tax yet.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
.


User: "Grain of Sand"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 09:30:03 PM
In article <Xns952D8951DB343MX@system.alaska.xm>,
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and not
how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals are


Name some of those examples.


Just a few failed liberal ideas:

- Raising minimum wage
- Raising taxes on business and industry
- Affirmative Action
- Public education
- The Great Society
- Social engineering
- Free love

You can make the points either way on all of them but the last. How has
"Free Love" failed?
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User: "Henru! Rustic"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 22 Jul 2004 01:32:03 AM
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:29:58 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> blurted:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and not
how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals are


Name some of those examples.


Just a few failed liberal ideas:

- Raising minimum wage
- Raising taxes on business and industry
- Affirmative Action
- Public education
- The Great Society
- Social engineering
- Free love

- Don't forget a policy of continual appeasement towards evil-doers.

Modern liberalism is a failure, and the people who still believe in that
crap are just geezers with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana
peel.

Liberalism only appeals to people who have no hope for a future or are
easily duped or scared. They're a dying breed (thank gawd) and like the
fascists and communists before them, it's just a short matter of time
before they're slammed in history books as being an inherently stupid.

.


User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 11:30:54 AM
"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and not
how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals are


Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?

Banning guns
.
User: "Mr. N"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 12:53:01 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns

Who believes in banning guns?
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explain to us what the exit strategy is."
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User: "Xomicron"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 12:56:45 PM
"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns


Who believes in banning guns?

The kook left.
.
User: "Mr. N"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 01:03:22 PM
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Who believes in banning guns?


The kook left.

Who is that?
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-Mr. N
*************************
"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to
explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-George W. Bush, April 9, 1999
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User: "John Starrett"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 02:23:43 PM
Xomicron wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns


Who believes in banning guns?



The kook left.

If by the kook left, you mean those who want to ban guns, then your
analysis is correct trivially.
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User: "Elmo"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 01:20:51 PM
In article <PbKdnVIG5p1aBGPdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and not
how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals are


Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns

God forbid we make our country safer. Are you that afraid of people?
.
User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 01:59:53 PM
"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
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In article <PbKdnVIG5p1aBGPdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and

not

how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals are


Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns


God forbid we make our country safer. Are you that afraid of people?

Safer for whom, Elmo?
.
User: "Elmo"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 09:51:09 PM
In article <J2zLc.1973$AF6.206@fe1.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
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In article <PbKdnVIG5p1aBGPdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be and

not

how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals are


Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns


God forbid we make our country safer. Are you that afraid of people?


Safer for whom, Elmo?

Safer from those with guns.
.
User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 21 Jul 2004 10:55:59 PM
"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
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In article <J2zLc.1973$AF6.206@fe1.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
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In article <PbKdnVIG5p1aBGPdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be

and

not

how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals

are


Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns


God forbid we make our country safer. Are you that afraid of people?


Safer for whom, Elmo?


Safer from those with guns.

It hasn't dawned on you that criminals are less likely to strike if they
believe their intended victim may be able to defend himself? Taking guns
away from law abiding citizens won't take them out of the hands of
criminals, and you're incredibly naive if you believe otherwise.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 22 Jul 2004 12:15:14 AM
In article <jVGLc.3561$sx2.397@fe2.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
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In article <J2zLc.1973$AF6.206@fe1.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
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In article <PbKdnVIG5p1aBGPdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
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Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should be

and

not

how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the liberals

are


Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns


God forbid we make our country safer. Are you that afraid of people?


Safer for whom, Elmo?


Safer from those with guns.


It hasn't dawned on you that criminals are less likely to strike if they
believe their intended victim may be able to defend himself?

But statistics say otherwise. They actually try to find homes with
guns.

Taking guns
away from law abiding citizens won't take them out of the hands of
criminals, and you're incredibly naive if you believe otherwise.

If only the facts proved you right.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 22 Jul 2004 12:21:59 AM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
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In article <jVGLc.3561$sx2.397@fe2.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:210720041951094534%anto@sales.com...

In article <J2zLc.1973$AF6.206@fe1.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:210720041120517253%anto@sales.com...

In article <PbKdnVIG5p1aBGPdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ICwLc.66945$5Y.31894@cyclops.nntpserver.com...


"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:zvund7ulpg2z.dlg@system.alaska.xm...

Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should

be

and

not

how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the

liberals

are


Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns


God forbid we make our country safer. Are you that afraid of

people?


Safer for whom, Elmo?


Safer from those with guns.


It hasn't dawned on you that criminals are less likely to strike if they
believe their intended victim may be able to defend himself?


But statistics say otherwise. They actually try to find homes with
guns.

That is a outright lie and you claimed to be a police officer.


Taking guns
away from law abiding citizens won't take them out of the hands of
criminals, and you're incredibly naive if you believe otherwise.


If only the facts proved you right.

Facts to support him. Banning guns will not work.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 22 Jul 2004 12:36:07 AM
In article <NJGdnUCf__Vz02LdRVn-ig@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:210720042215143948%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <jVGLc.3561$sx2.397@fe2.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:210720041951094534%anto@sales.com...

In article <J2zLc.1973$AF6.206@fe1.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:210720041120517253%anto@sales.com...

In article <PbKdnVIG5p1aBGPdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ICwLc.66945$5Y.31894@cyclops.nntpserver.com...


"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:zvund7ulpg2z.dlg@system.alaska.xm...

Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it should

be

and

not

how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the

liberals

are


Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns


God forbid we make our country safer. Are you that afraid of

people?


Safer for whom, Elmo?


Safer from those with guns.


It hasn't dawned on you that criminals are less likely to strike if they
believe their intended victim may be able to defend himself?


But statistics say otherwise. They actually try to find homes with
guns.


That is a outright lie and you claimed to be a police officer.

I was a police officer. Where do you think criminals get their
weapons, spud? They STEAL them. And for the record, I sold my weapon,
to another police officer, within a week of leaving the force. Don't
blame me that you couldn't hack the psychological exam for becoming a
police officer. We aren't all filled with hate and scared of our
shadows, like you.




Taking guns
away from law abiding citizens won't take them out of the hands of
criminals, and you're incredibly naive if you believe otherwise.


If only the facts proved you right.


Facts to support him. Banning guns will not work.

Moron.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Liberal Worldview 22 Jul 2004 12:41:42 AM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:210720042236079096%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <NJGdnUCf__Vz02LdRVn-ig@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:210720042215143948%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <jVGLc.3561$sx2.397@fe2.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:210720041951094534%anto@sales.com...

In article <J2zLc.1973$AF6.206@fe1.columbus.rr.com>, John Baker
<nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:

"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:210720041120517253%anto@sales.com...

In article <PbKdnVIG5p1aBGPdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ICwLc.66945$5Y.31894@cyclops.nntpserver.com...


"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:zvund7ulpg2z.dlg@system.alaska.xm...

Liberals look at the world with an ideology on how it

should

be

and

not

how the world really is.


Sounds more like right-wing conservatives.

Yet despite all the real world examples of how wrong the

liberals

are


Name some of those examples.

why do they still persist in believing their foolish

ideals?


What 'foolish ideals' are those?


Banning guns


God forbid we make our country safer. Are you that afraid of

people?


Safer for whom, Elmo?


Safer from those with guns.


It hasn't dawned on you that criminals are less likely to strike if

they

believe their intended victim may be able to defend himself?


But statistics say otherwise. They actually try to find homes with
guns.


That is a outright lie and you claimed to be a police officer.


I was a police officer.

No, you are never a police officer.
Where do you think criminals get their

weapons, spud?

I can show you an easy way to make a weapon with a bullet, a pipe, a rubber
band, and all I would need is something small enough to be the hammer.
Are you going to ban rubber bands now?

They STEAL them.

Or get them off the black market. You can NOT stop them.
And for the record, I sold my weapon,

to another police officer, within a week of leaving the force. Don't
blame me that you couldn't hack the psychological exam for becoming a
police officer.

I blame you for lying about that.
We aren't all filled with hate and scared of our

shadows, like you.

But you are the one who has to lie about others, not me.





Taking guns
away from law abiding citizens won't take them out of the hands of
criminals, and you're incredibly naive if you believe otherwise.


If only the facts proved you right.


Facts to support him. Banning guns will not work.


Moron.

.











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