"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Howard Dean lying, caught on record. Liberals should be proud, they have
someone that truly represents liberals for what most are known for.
http://www.nationalreview.com/lopez/lopez200401221110.asp
January 22, 2004, 11:10 a.m.
Drowning Out Sense
Howard Dean on abortion.
I have no idea if Howard Dean is telling the truth when he says he has
never
performed an
abortion and that he does not have the necessary training. But I do have
reason to wonder.
Dean, it would seem, has spent way too much time as a politician around
abortion-advocacy
doublespeak: He may not know the truth anymore.
A Peoplemagazine interview with Dean and his wife last week went where the
Deans obviously
did not want to go: to their days working for the abortion mill Margaret
Sanger built.
The relevant section goes like so:
Q: Were you both active in Planned Parenthood in Burlington?
Judy: We both worked there, while we were residents, but I wouldn't call
it
active.
Howard: And no, neither of us ever did an abortion.
Q: Why do you say it that way?
Howard: Because I always get asked that.
Q: Why didn't you perform abortions?
Howard: Because we don't do them. They don't train residents to do that.
Judy: When we were residents, we were working there basically to get GYN
experience because
you don't generally do it on hospitalized patients. And then you start to
have a practice
without having a lot of GYN experience.
Q: Do you have a moral opposition to performing the procedure? I mean,
you're both
physicians, you at some point -
Howard: I think that's a private matter between the physician and the
patient. I don't have
a moral problem, but neither of us is trained to do abortions. We're both
internists.
Internists don't do abortions. ... It would be malpractice if we did.
Q: Would you do them if you'd had the training?
Howard: I've learned long ago not to answer hypothetical questions like
that. Both of us
chose internal medicine, so we never had to make that choice. I firmly
believe in the right
to choose. This is a private matter between a doctor and a patient. It's
none of the
government's business.
Those answers emanated disingenuousness. From the very beginning of the
scarlet-a
conversation, the Deans takes issue with the word "active" in regard to
his
time spent
working at Planned Parenthood. And yet, when Howard Dean spoke to NARAL
activists last
January with pride: "I served on the board of Planned Parenthood of
Northern
New England for
five years. When I became governor I had to resign because all - we
contracted all our
family planning services through Planned Parenthood in Vermont." Doesn't
sound like a man
who was only there as an internist because he wanted a little gyn
experience.
In that same speech, Dean told activists hungry for red meat the story of
a
girl who wanted
an abortion. He said:
Let me tell you a story. As many of you know I'm a doctor. I'm an
internist,
and I take care
of all ages pretty much from five to 105, and one time I was sitting in my
office, and it
was not unusual for young kids to come and talk to me because I knew the
whole family, and
one time a young lady came into my office who was 12 years old and she
thought she might be
pregnant. And we did the tests and did the exam and she was pregnant. She
didn't know what
to do. And after I had talked to her for a while I came to the conclusion
that the likely
father of her child was her own father. You explain that to the American
people who think
that parental notification is a good idea. I will veto parental
notification.
Lost my vote right there.
Draconian veto because of a very rare circumstance, or is ti because Dean
was screwing his own daughters?
It is time to rid our naiton of these animalistic men who do noting to take
care of women.
WHy is Dean afraid to notify s amn who got his own daughter pregnant?
WOW!
What a coward.
"Kill a baby , save a rapist."
Heartbreaking - except he left out a key fact. The girl was lying.
But, it shows us his mentality.
How could she be lying if the test showed her to be pregnant?
Lying that her father did it?
Tim Russert called him on it later in the year:
Russert: There's this article in USA Today: "Dean told a powerful story
but
left out a key
fact. What Dean didn't say was that he knew the father was not
responsible,
someone else was
convicted." That's a pretty big omission.
Convicted or railroaded?
Dean: I don't think it's - omission. A pretty big omission, you mean?
Russert: Yeah. That's a pretty - to say that...
Dean: I don't think it is at all.
Russert: To suggest her father may have been...
Dean: I thought it was. At the time, I thought it was.
Russert: But when you told that story, you knew otherwise.
Dean: That's right.
Russert: Why didn't you say that?
Dean: Because it didn't make any difference....
In other words, Howard Dean is already on record lying about medical
experiences in order to
pander to the abortion lobby. We already know he's dishonest. So none of
what he says on the
topic should surprise anyone.
This all makes what he said during a conference call last week a little
more
understandable.
Dean claimed, "No doctor is going to do an abortion on a live fetus. That
doesn't happen.
Doctors don't do that. If they do, they'll get their license pulled, as
well
they should."
Now, of course, doctors do, by definition, perform abortions on live
fetuses: If they were
not live, there would be no need for the abortion procedure. What he
likely
meant was that
doctors do not perform abortions on delivered babies - perhaps referring
to
the type of
procedure prohibited by the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Or perhaps
he
was making a
disingenuous point about partial-birth abortion. Either way, he didn't
make
much sense -
Dean is so busy spinning to suit his audience on a topic he knows is
unpopular with most
Americans that his stories don't make sense even to him anymore.
Undoubtedly
he is counting
on not being called on it.
And as an added question mark - Vermont is actually one of two states that
allow
non-physicians to perform abortions. What was that about malpractice,
again?
But in the end, Dean's doublespeak and nonsense-speak don't bother him:
The
truth, as he has
said, doesn't make a difference.
.