Science > Abortion > Loons Crying in their Beer: Best Comedic Theater in Decades!!
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"Craig Chilton" |
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02 Nov 2003 05:32:09 PM |
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Loons Crying in their Beer: Best Comedic Theater in Decades!! |
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0800,
J. Taylor <jota@gorge.net> wrote:
Jim McCoy <jamesrmccoyjr@yahoo.com> wrote,
in the thread entitled: "Celebrating Gene Robinson!" ---
On Sunday November 4, the Christian church will elevate its first
openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson. Hopefully, all Christians will join
in in spirit and celebrate Gene's elevation.
I understand that Gene has his persecutors, but Jesus Christ and the
Apostle Paul had their persecutors too. All of Gene's persecutors
should understand that Gene has nothing but love in his heart for you.
Gene has also suffered as did Jesus and Paul because he is a gay
Christian. But Gene has been able to overcome, he has held out, and
he will be duly rewarded on Sunday.
On November 2, let us all celebrate the elevation of Gene Robinson!
It's Novbember 2nd, and as a FAIR-minded and sensible egalitarian, I
AM celebrating! Good for Gene!! And good for all those who made this
possible!!
Nothing to celebrate. It grieves me. You are calling wrong, right and
it is reasonable to expect more of the same.
ROTFL!!! You hyperconservative loons are getting EXACTLY what
you deserve. Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
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02 Nov 2003 11:53:32 PM |
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(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3fa591bb.14523883@netnews.mchsi.com>...
Nothing to celebrate. It grieves me. You are calling wrong, right and
it is reasonable to expect more of the same.
ROTFL!!! You hyperconservative loons are getting EXACTLY what
you deserve.
Actually the Episcopalians are getting what they now deserve, as it
seems a split with the Anglican mother church is now pretty much
inevitable. Looks like there's some Episcopalian churches that are
splitting with the Episcopalian faction as well: I heard from a
pastor of a large church in my area that there are some large churches
in Texas that are converting to another denomination. People are
leaving the church in large groups and several other church elders,
including Bishops, are also leaving.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/11/03/wbish03.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/11/03/ixportaltop.html
Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
Bigotry and ignorance is when a person creates this kind of rift
within the body of Christ for his own personal gain.
--S
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03 Nov 2003 12:33:44 AM |
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On 2 Nov 2003 21:53:32 -0800,
"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
J. Taylor <jota@gorge.net> wrote:
Jim McCoy <jamesrmccoyjr@yahoo.com> wrote,
in the thread entitled: "Celebrating Gene Robinson!" ---
On Sunday November 4, the Christian church will elevate its first
openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson. Hopefully, all Christians will join
in in spirit and celebrate Gene's elevation.
I understand that Gene has his persecutors, but Jesus Christ and the
Apostle Paul had their persecutors too. All of Gene's persecutors
should understand that Gene has nothing but love in his heart for you.
Gene has also suffered as did Jesus and Paul because he is a gay
Christian. But Gene has been able to overcome, he has held out, and
he will be duly rewarded on Sunday.
On November 2, let us all celebrate the elevation of Gene Robinson!
It's November 2nd, and as a FAIR-minded and sensible egalitarian, I
*AM* celebrating! Good for Gene!! And good for all those who made this
possible!!
Nothing to celebrate. It grieves me. You are calling wrong,
right and it is reasonable to expect more of the same.
ROTFL!!! You hyperconservative loons are getting EXACTLY
what you deserve.
Actually the Episcopalians are getting what they now deserve, as it
seems a split with the Anglican mother church is now pretty much
inevitable. Looks like there's some Episcopalian churches that are
splitting with the Episcopalian faction as well: I heard from a
pastor of a large church in my area that there are some large churches
in Texas that are converting to another denomination. People are
leaving the church in large groups and several other church elders,
including Bishops, are also leaving.
There's a very appropriate response to loons like that. It starts
out, "Don't let the door... " And until the hateful bigots grow up, the
church will be better off without them.
... Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
Bigotry and ignorance is when a person creates this kind of rift
within the body of Christ for his own personal gain.
To the contrary. He's helping enormously to escort the church into
the 21st century, and this era's growing value of tolerance and fairness.
I hope that the next pope can do as much for the Catholics.
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03 Nov 2003 09:56:06 AM |
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(Craig Chilton) writes:
On 2 Nov 2003 21:53:32 -0800,
"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
... Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
Bigotry and ignorance is when a person creates this kind of rift
within the body of Christ for his own personal gain.
To the contrary. He's helping enormously to escort the church into
the 21st century, and this era's growing value of tolerance and fairness.
I hope that the next pope can do as much for the Catholics.
Does anyone have any idea of what they actually said about the first
Black bishop? That should make an interesting comparision.
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| User: "George Johnson" |
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03 Nov 2003 11:32:01 AM |
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"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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| (Craig Chilton) writes:
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| > On 2 Nov 2003 21:53:32 -0800,
| > "Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
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| > >> ... Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
| > >> did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
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| > > Bigotry and ignorance is when a person creates this kind of rift
| > > within the body of Christ for his own personal gain.
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| > To the contrary. He's helping enormously to escort the church
into
| > the 21st century, and this era's growing value of tolerance and
fairness.
| > I hope that the next pope can do as much for the Catholics.
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| Does anyone have any idea of what they actually said about the first
| Black bishop? That should make an interesting comparision.
http://www.primolectureseries.com/aboutbishopprimo/
The Right Reverend Quintin E. Primo, Jr.
(1913-1998)
Bishop Primo was first to serve in many areas: the first president of the
National Union of Black Episcopalians; the first black bishop of Chicago;
the first bishop to ordain women priests in that diocese; and the first
black Episcopal bishop in the diocese of Delaware.
As he rose through the Episcopal ranks, Bishop Primo was determined his
would be a ministry of inclusion. He welcomed women to the priesthood and
defended a fellow bishop who ordained a non-celibate gay man.
Bishop Primo held leadership roles in the New York's State NAACP and
Commission for Human Rights. He championed the cause of peace, social
justice, race relations and reconciliation, always striving to end racism in
all parts of life.
Quintin E. Primo, Jr. was a priest, bishop, patriarch, activist, leader,
friend, husband, father and grandfather... an incredible human being.
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Yep an interesting comparison I think.
I suspect that the folks who are against such concepts like welcoming
women into the priesthood, tolerance toward gay folk, championing the causes
of peace, social justice, positive race relations, reconciliation, and
ending racism in all parts of life, would've rather seen Bishop Quintin
Primo hanging from noose in a tree while a cross burned near his corpse.
Now who do we know that decries all of the above "liberal" causes? Yep.
The KGB-GOP SLAVEWHORES and their many drooling ring-toothed parasite
GOP-KGB PIMPS. Funny how the love of freedom is always celebrated by the
Progressives, Liberals, and REAL Conservatives (not the REPUBLICAN & NEOCON
& DIXIECRAT KKK-loving disgusting ilk that pretend to be Conservatives these
days). The nation only seems to progress when the guys on the side of good
win and America degrades to the rotten state that it is in today with the
vile efforts of evil that the KGB-GOP DEATHCULT practices. Satanism
requires that Satanists do no good ever and the results prove the true faith
of the GOP-KGB DEATHCULT pretty damn well.
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http://pcn.diocal.org/PCNA/2pcn98/
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The Rt. Rev. Quintin Primo, Bishop Suffragan, Diocese of Chicago for 13
years, died January 15th. He was 84. Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold
described Primo as "a very wise and astute mentor. He was our patriarch. Any
number of clergy who are bishops today are his spiritual offspring."
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http://www.chicagoreporter.com/1998/03-98/0398fr.htm
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wDeath: Retired Chicago Episcopal Bishop Quintin Primo Jr., 84, died Jan. 15
at his home in Hockessin, Del. In 1972, Primo became the first African
American Protestant Episcopal bishop elected to the office of the Episcopal
Diocese of Chicago. Primo served in that post until his retirement in 1984.
A strong supporter of civil rights and affirmative action, he lobbied for
the rights of women to become priests and ordained some of the first female
candidates. Primo was also a founding member and past president of the
national Union of Black Episcopalians, a 30-year-old association.
[ end clip ]
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http://www.episcopalchurch.org/congr/Black/Mine_Eyes/Video.htm
About The Video Project
Mine Eyes Have Seen The Savior is an account of the experiences of Black
Episcopalians in the shadows of social injustice and racial inequality, in a
Church wrestling with the angels of demise. It is not the only story of
Black Episcopal ministries; rather, it is the beginning of many stories that
lay deep in the hearts and memory of Afro-Anglicans, and are yet to be told
by historians.
This video project began in 1996 as the Episcopal Church faced a
structural shift that would have dissolved all of the ethnic ministry
offices, including the Office of Black Ministries. At the Black Ministries
Coalition that year, leaders from organizations and groups such as Black
Leaders And Diocesan Executives (BLADE) and the Union of Black Episcopalians
(UBE), along with Black clergy and Black Episcopal bishops, gathered in
Hempstead, New York, to talk about the proposed structural shift at the
Episcopal Church Center.
Besides their concern about how to address that proposal, the group
found that it also wanted a way to preserve the history and oral stories of
Black Episcopal ministries as the millennium came to an end. The group
challenged the Office of Black Ministries to create a resource that would
mark the events in Black Episcopal ministries, a project that led to the
video production now known as, "Mine Eyes Have Seen The Savior: 400 Years of
Black Episcopal Ministries." As current officer in what was then the Office
of Black Ministries (and is now the Office of Black and Urban Ministries), I
accepted the responsibility for this challenge to ourselves.
The first task was to convene an editorial committee to provide constant
support, assistance, and response throughout the entire project. The Rev.
Kris Lee, director of Episcopal Media services, put me in contact with Dan
Jatovsky of David Gordon Productions. Together we poured over the
manuscripts, research documents, and photographs compiled by previous staff
members of the Office of Black Ministries.
We also initiated and oversaw other research projects. In a collection
owned by the Rev. Thomas Logan, Sr., D.D., we found historical material from
the early years of the Conference of Church Workers Among Colored People,
which proved to be invaluable. The Union of Black Episcopalians (UBE)
provided historical information from the footage of their thirtieth
conference, held at St. Augustine's College in North Carolina. Based on our
research, Dan and I created a list of topics and people to include in the
video, selected photographs and quotations, and developed a script. With the
technical support of Episcopal Media Services and its camera crew,
nationwide filming began in 1996.
A crew went to St. Andrew's Church in Cleveland, Ohio to tape Bishop
Arthur Williams' narration from the script we had written. Others recruited
people from the Episcopal Church Center to do "voice-overs," that is, to
read historical quotes while the video showed a photo of the speaker. It
wasn't easy to find people willing to read some of the material that we
presented.
We edited the videotapes and incorporated the historical material,
interviews, and narration with music from "My House Must Be Filled" and "It
Is Well With My Soul," two compact music disks also created by the Office of
Black Ministries. The editorial committee worked with Daniel Jatovsky to
complete the final edit.
The filming of the video was not without its issues and challenges.
Early in the project, the committee elected to interview the Black bishops,
since many of them had been, and continue to be, the shakers and movers of
Black Episcopal ministries. The first script was researched and drafted with
the hope that the Rt. Rev. Quintin Primo, Suffragan Bishop of Chicago, would
be the first to be interviewed. But after two cancellations, Bishop Primo
fell ill and subsequently died before his story was recorded. His death
prompted an urgency to complete this video.
Other challenges became evident as we began to research the material on
the Conference of Church Workers Among Colored People. The founders of the
Union of Black Episcopalians (UBE) only had their recent memory to explain
why the Conference of Church Workers Among Colored People was disbanded and
UBE was created. Tracing participation in the Women's Auxiliary of the
Conference of Church Workers proved even more difficult. Many of these
wonderful women had gone on to glory and were identified in historical
documents only by their surnames. Since these heroic women were not clergy,
it was difficult to trace the precise work and contributions of individual
women.
Another challenge facing this video was the limited time to present the
material, thus the necessity to edit. Since the video is a broad stroke of
Black Episcopal ministries, it doesn't capture all the facts, interesting
details, and personalities. The video, also admittedly, emphasizes the
development of Black ministries on the East Coast and doesn't address the
ministries on the West Coast (with the limited exception of some remarks
from the perspective of the Rt. Rev. Chester Talton, Bishop Suffragan of Los
Angeles).
In the midst of filming the video, the structure shifted at the Church
Center. That meant combining budgets and resources within departments.
Diocesan resources were diminishing, as were the number of young people
seeking a vocation in the ministry. There was a growing concern about
anti-racism practices disappearing in the Church, and alarm over the decline
of the Afro-Anglican voice at the decision-making table at the Church
Center. A new strategy evolved at UBE's thirtieth anniversary conference
that identified leadership training as a priority for Black Episcopal
ministries.
Thus, in 1999 there were five major conferences for the Black Episcopal
Church. Each conference addressed a specific leadership group in the church,
while connecting the group with allies: The Bishop Primo and UBE Leadership
Summit, designed to train lay leaders, included discussions of church-based
community services, ecumenical connections, and techniques to strengthen
Black ministries at the local level; The 4th Caribbean Anglican Consultation
provided the Caribbean clergy in North America the opportunity to address
theological issues of immigration, in light of racism and leadership
development among the laity and with other Black churches; The
Transformation and Renewal of Black Congregations trained team ministers in
Black and urban congregations to build a strong leadership base, providing
them with tools to build a more relevant church ministry; The 5th Triennial
Black Clergy Conference provided Black clergy the opportunity to write the
history, and provided tools for growing healthy Black congregations with
limited resources; and The Annual Afro Anglican Youth Facilitator's
Conference and Adult Youth Advisor's Conference trained Black youth and
those who work with Black youth leaders. Young Black leaders, selected by
their parish priests, learned to lead a meeting, lead a Bible study, set an
agenda, and work with adult youth advisors.
Mine Eyes Have Seen The Savior: 400 Years of Black Episcopal Ministries
uses the oral tradition to capture moments in the history of Black Episcopal
ministries. It is our hope that this video reflects the feelings,
sentiments, and the just and unjust acts of the human heart. But most of
all, it is our greatest desire that this video will be used as a tool to
witness to the presence of God's Holy Spirit moving in the history of
humankind, rekindling the connection with God's love in an unloving and
intolerable world. Perhaps this video will offer hope to the new generation
of leaders who may celebrate racial and ethnic diversity, and embrace and
love our many cultures.
"Lord, you now have set your servant free,
to go in peace as you have promised;
For these eyes of mine have seen the Savior,
Whom you have prepared for all the world to see:
A Light to enlighten the nations,
and the glory of your people Israel."
Nunc dimittis (based on Luke 2:29-32)
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03 Nov 2003 09:04:57 PM |
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"George Johnson" <matrix29@voyager.net> writes:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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| Does anyone have any idea of what they actually said about the first
| Black bishop? That should make an interesting comparision.
http://www.primolectureseries.com/aboutbishopprimo/
The Right Reverend Quintin E. Primo, Jr.
(1913-1998)
Bishop Primo was first to serve in many areas: the first president of the
National Union of Black Episcopalians; the first black bishop of Chicago;
the first bishop to ordain women priests in that diocese; and the first
black Episcopal bishop in the diocese of Delaware.
I'd imagine Bishop Primo was a wonderful person, but what I was asking
about was the reaction to a black person who became a bishop at a time
when racism was not even questioned in the U.S.
. In 1972, Primo became the first African American Protestant
Episcopal bishop elected to the office of the Episcopal Diocese of
Chicago.
Well, that shows you picked a bad example. In 1972, racism was no
longer acceptable. The interesting case would be someone who
because a bishop far earlier - before 1950, for example. What
sort of reaction was there?
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03 Nov 2003 01:13:52 PM |
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No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3znfdfnxz.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) writes:
On 2 Nov 2003 21:53:32 -0800,
"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
... Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
Bigotry and ignorance is when a person creates this kind of rift
within the body of Christ for his own personal gain.
To the contrary. He's helping enormously to escort the church into
the 21st century, and this era's growing value of tolerance and fairness.
I hope that the next pope can do as much for the Catholics.
Does anyone have any idea of what they actually said about the first
Black bishop? That should make an interesting comparision.
I don't know how it went on the Anglican side, but the first Black
Roman Catholic Bishop in the United States was Bishop Healey, who
served as the second bishop of the Portland, ME diocese. (You can see
a portrait of him if you scroll down at:
http://www.saintbarts.com/wednesday.html ). I know about him because
he's an alumnus of Holy Cross, and has a popular dorm named after him!
The story was told (by himself or by the surviving parishioner, I'm
not sure) that a boy once went to confess in the diocesan cathedral,
and, inside the confessional, told the priest that he "had called the
bishop a *****". Suddenly the slide was pulled back, the "priest"
stuck his head into the boy's side, and calmly replied, "Take a look
at your bishop. Is there anything wrong with being a '*****'"? I
suspect the boy's pants were considerably wetter when he left than
when he had entered...LOL! My underlying point is that Gene, whatever
else we say or think about him, has been unfailingly patient and
gracious and forgiving toward those who are saying the most vile and
abusive and obscene things about him. In that aspect, at the very
least, I hope we can ALL agree, he is following the "Imitatio
Christi".
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03 Nov 2003 12:29:10 PM |
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nothing! It amazes me how the liberal loons on the left scream "hatred
bigotry and racism" when they practice hatred the most against those
that do not see eye to eye with them. Trully amazing.
Does anyone have any idea of what they actually said about the first
Black bishop? That should make an interesting comparision.
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03 Nov 2003 10:34:46 PM |
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Senator Palpatine <darth_sidious70@yahoo.com> wrote:
nothing! It amazes me how the liberal loons on the left scream "hatred
bigotry and racism" when they practice hatred the most against those
that do not see eye to eye with them.
Nope. You're just projecting. It's not liberals who make death
threats against blacks, women, and gays.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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04 Nov 2003 05:36:44 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Senator Palpatine <darth_sidious70@yahoo.com> wrote:
nothing! It amazes me how the liberal loons on the left scream "hatred
bigotry and racism" when they practice hatred the most against those
that do not see eye to eye with them.
Nope. You're just projecting. It's not liberals who make death
threats against blacks, women, and gays.
naa
They just burn up SUV's dealerships, throw paint on women wearing furs,
block people from going to work, disrupt emergency services in cities
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04 Nov 2003 07:26:17 AM |
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hmmmmm......I love how liberals PROJECT their hatred on to others and
bring up ***** that is irrelevant.
Nope. You're just projecting. It's not liberals who make death
threats against blacks, women, and gays.
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04 Nov 2003 09:08:48 AM |
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(Senator Palpatine) wrote in
news:e7783ac8.0311040526.59896ce9@posting.google.com:
It amazes me how the liberal loons on the left scream "hatred
bigotry and racism" when they practice hatred the most against those
that do not see eye to eye with them. Trully amazing.
Nope. You're just projecting. It's not liberals who make death
threats against blacks, women, and gays.
hmmmmm......I love how liberals PROJECT their hatred on to others and
bring up ***** that is irrelevant.
Matthew Shepard was killed by liberal projection. And his death is irrelevant
to the question of who "practices hatred the most". Fascinating.
Hugh
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10 Nov 2003 04:31:09 AM |
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Guys,
I noticed alot of your posts are being "censored" by my ISP. They are not on
my news server.
Brian
"Senator Palpatine" <darth_sidious70@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e7783ac8.0311040526.59896ce9@posting.google.com...
hmmmmm......I love how liberals PROJECT their hatred on to others and
bring up ***** that is irrelevant.
Nope. You're just projecting. It's not liberals who make death
threats against blacks, women, and gays.
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04 Nov 2003 10:10:25 AM |
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On 4 Nov 2003 05:26:17 -0800, (Senator
Palpatine) wrote:
hmmmmm......I love how liberals PROJECT their hatred on to others and
bring up ***** that is irrelevant.
Amusing! I am laughing after reading these words of a poster who dons
the handle "Senator Palpatine" -- a character associate with evil,
contempt, dishonesty, and murder.
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04 Nov 2003 10:23:15 AM |
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Amusing! I am laughing after reading these words of a poster who dons
the handle "Senator Palpatine" -- a character associate with evil,
contempt, dishonesty, and murder.
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ya gotta clue me in.......who was this Senator?
The only thing that rings a bell is the guy who was running for office in the
movie "Taxi Driver"......... but I thought he was "Palintine".
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04 Nov 2003 12:45:57 PM |
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On 04 Nov 2003 16:23:15 GMT, (Mizzyandrea) wrote:
Amusing! I am laughing after reading these words of a poster who dons
the handle "Senator Palpatine" -- a character associate with evil,
contempt, dishonesty, and murder.
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ya gotta clue me in.......who was this Senator?
The only thing that rings a bell is the guy who was running for office in the
movie "Taxi Driver"......... but I thought he was "Palintine".
http://members.tripod.com/~lordofsith/abrief.htm
(Star Wars)
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04 Nov 2003 12:58:14 PM |
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(Star Wars)
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I outgrew Sci Fi a long time ago.......
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04 Nov 2003 12:45:37 PM |
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On 04 Nov 2003 16:23:15 GMT, (Mizzyandrea) wrote:
Amusing! I am laughing after reading these words of a poster who dons
the handle "Senator Palpatine" -- a character associate with evil,
contempt, dishonesty, and murder.
************************************
ya gotta clue me in.......who was this Senator?
The only thing that rings a bell is the guy who was running for office in the
movie "Taxi Driver"......... but I thought he was "Palintine".
http://members.tripod.com/~lordofsith/abrief.htm
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04 Nov 2003 11:07:31 PM |
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Senator Palpatine <darth_sidious70@yahoo.com> wrote:
hmmmmm......I love how liberals PROJECT their hatred on to others and
bring up ***** that is irrelevant.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/031103/323/ecu94.html
The US Episcopal Church consecrated its first openly gay bishop,
overriding formal objections from dissenting clergy and ignoring
threats of a permanent schism within the Anglican faith's 70
million adherents worldwide.
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So vehement was some of the opposition to the idea of an openly
sexually active gay bishop that Robinson had to be given police
protection after he received numerous death threats.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Bob SD" |
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05 Nov 2003 09:35:01 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in news:boa0ii$7gh$1
@bolt.sonic.net:
Senator Palpatine <darth_sidious70@yahoo.com> wrote:
hmmmmm......I love how liberals PROJECT their hatred on to others and
bring up ***** that is irrelevant.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/031103/323/ecu94.html
The US Episcopal Church consecrated its first openly gay bishop,
overriding formal objections from dissenting clergy and ignoring
threats of a permanent schism within the Anglican faith's 70
million adherents worldwide.
...
So vehement was some of the opposition to the idea of an openly
sexually active gay bishop that Robinson had to be given police
protection after he received numerous death threats.
I don't know what all the fuss is about. It's kinda like the chickens
have come home to roost. :o)
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| User: "Sneechres" |
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03 Nov 2003 12:37:08 PM |
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(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3faff229.39213314@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 2 Nov 2003 21:53:32 -0800,
"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
J. Taylor <jota@gorge.net> wrote:
Jim McCoy <jamesrmccoyjr@yahoo.com> wrote,
in the thread entitled: "Celebrating Gene Robinson!" ---
On Sunday November 4, the Christian church will elevate its first
openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson. Hopefully, all Christians will join
in in spirit and celebrate Gene's elevation.
I understand that Gene has his persecutors, but Jesus Christ and the
Apostle Paul had their persecutors too. All of Gene's persecutors
should understand that Gene has nothing but love in his heart for you.
Gene has also suffered as did Jesus and Paul because he is a gay
Christian. But Gene has been able to overcome, he has held out, and
he will be duly rewarded on Sunday.
On November 2, let us all celebrate the elevation of Gene Robinson!
It's November 2nd, and as a FAIR-minded and sensible egalitarian, I
*AM* celebrating! Good for Gene!! And good for all those who made this
possible!!
Nothing to celebrate. It grieves me. You are calling wrong,
right and it is reasonable to expect more of the same.
ROTFL!!! You hyperconservative loons are getting EXACTLY
what you deserve.
Actually the Episcopalians are getting what they now deserve, as it
seems a split with the Anglican mother church is now pretty much
inevitable. Looks like there's some Episcopalian churches that are
splitting with the Episcopalian faction as well: I heard from a
pastor of a large church in my area that there are some large churches
in Texas that are converting to another denomination. People are
leaving the church in large groups and several other church elders,
including Bishops, are also leaving.
There's a very appropriate response to loons like that.
It doesn't matter what the response is when the Episcopalian church
can no longer afford to issue one. ;)
It starts
out, "Don't let the door... " And until the hateful bigots grow up, the
church will be better off without them.
There isn't going to *be* a church. The Episcopalian denomination is
on it's death bed, it seems.
... Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
Bigotry and ignorance is when a person creates this kind of rift
within the body of Christ for his own personal gain.
To the contrary.
Apparently you don't read the Bible you falsely claim is your moral
authority.
God hates people that sow discord amongst bretheren. Motivation
apparently has no relevance there.
He's helping enormously to escort the church into
the 21st century,
That's not the function of the body of Christ, at least, not according
to your Bible which you falsely claim is your moral authority.
Know thee not that a friend of the world is the enemy of God?
--S
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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03 Nov 2003 01:40:43 PM |
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On 3 Nov 2003 10:37:08 -0800, (Sneechres) wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3faff229.39213314@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 2 Nov 2003 21:53:32 -0800,
"Sneechres" < > wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
J. Taylor <jota@gorge.net> wrote:
Jim McCoy <jamesrmccoyjr@yahoo.com> wrote,
in the thread entitled: "Celebrating Gene Robinson!" ---
On Sunday November 4, the Christian church will elevate its first
openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson. Hopefully, all Christians will join
in in spirit and celebrate Gene's elevation.
I understand that Gene has his persecutors, but Jesus Christ and the
Apostle Paul had their persecutors too. All of Gene's persecutors
should understand that Gene has nothing but love in his heart for you.
Gene has also suffered as did Jesus and Paul because he is a gay
Christian. But Gene has been able to overcome, he has held out, and
he will be duly rewarded on Sunday.
On November 2, let us all celebrate the elevation of Gene Robinson!
It's November 2nd, and as a FAIR-minded and sensible egalitarian, I
*AM* celebrating! Good for Gene!! And good for all those who made this
possible!!
Nothing to celebrate. It grieves me. You are calling wrong,
right and it is reasonable to expect more of the same.
ROTFL!!! You hyperconservative loons are getting EXACTLY
what you deserve.
Actually the Episcopalians are getting what they now deserve, as it
seems a split with the Anglican mother church is now pretty much
inevitable. Looks like there's some Episcopalian churches that are
splitting with the Episcopalian faction as well: I heard from a
pastor of a large church in my area that there are some large churches
in Texas that are converting to another denomination. People are
leaving the church in large groups and several other church elders,
including Bishops, are also leaving.
There's a very appropriate response to loons like that.
It doesn't matter what the response is when the Episcopalian church
can no longer afford to issue one. ;)
It starts out, "Don't let the door... " And until the hateful bigots
grow up, the church will be better off without them.
There isn't going to *be* a church. The Episcopalian denomination
is on it's death bed, it seems.
There IS a church, and if it's analogous to a ship, the rats appear
to be ready to leave it. The ship will be the BETTER for that. And it is
setting an EXCELLENT example for all the other denominations.
... Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
Bigotry and ignorance is when a person creates this kind of rift
within the body of Christ for his own personal gain.
To the contrary. He's helping enormously to escort the church
into the 21st century,
Apparently you don't read the Bible you falsely claim is your moral
authority.
It says to LOVE your neighbors, not be HATEFUL to them.
Obviously, the powers-that-be in the church are aware of that.
God hates people that sow discord amongst bretheren. Motivation
apparently has no relevance there.
Not as much as He hates bigotry, I'll bet.
He's helping enormously to escort the church into
the 21st century,
That's not the function of the body of Christ, at least, not
according to your Bible which you falsely claim is your moral authority.
Know thee not that a friend of the world is the enemy of God?
And a friend of one's neighbors is too? Sorry, that doesn't
compute.
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| User: "Sneechres" |
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04 Nov 2003 12:59:08 AM |
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(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3fbcab1e.86569547@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 3 Nov 2003 10:37:08 -0800, (Sneechres) wrote:
(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3faff229.39213314@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On 2 Nov 2003 21:53:32 -0800,
"Sneechres" < > wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
J. Taylor <jota@gorge.net> wrote:
Jim McCoy <jamesrmccoyjr@yahoo.com> wrote,
in the thread entitled: "Celebrating Gene Robinson!" ---
On Sunday November 4, the Christian church will elevate its first
openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson. Hopefully, all Christians will join
in in spirit and celebrate Gene's elevation.
I understand that Gene has his persecutors, but Jesus Christ and the
Apostle Paul had their persecutors too. All of Gene's persecutors
should understand that Gene has nothing but love in his heart for you.
Gene has also suffered as did Jesus and Paul because he is a gay
Christian. But Gene has been able to overcome, he has held out, and
he will be duly rewarded on Sunday.
On November 2, let us all celebrate the elevation of Gene Robinson!
It's November 2nd, and as a FAIR-minded and sensible egalitarian, I
*AM* celebrating! Good for Gene!! And good for all those who made this
possible!!
Nothing to celebrate. It grieves me. You are calling wrong,
right and it is reasonable to expect more of the same.
ROTFL!!! You hyperconservative loons are getting EXACTLY
what you deserve.
Actually the Episcopalians are getting what they now deserve, as it
seems a split with the Anglican mother church is now pretty much
inevitable. Looks like there's some Episcopalian churches that are
splitting with the Episcopalian faction as well: I heard from a
pastor of a large church in my area that there are some large churches
in Texas that are converting to another denomination. People are
leaving the church in large groups and several other church elders,
including Bishops, are also leaving.
There's a very appropriate response to loons like that.
It doesn't matter what the response is when the Episcopalian church
can no longer afford to issue one. ;)
It starts out, "Don't let the door... " And until the hateful bigots
grow up, the church will be better off without them.
There isn't going to *be* a church. The Episcopalian denomination
is on it's death bed, it seems.
There IS a church, and if it's analogous to a ship, the rats appear
to be ready to leave it.
That's incorrect; what's happening is that the captain, navigator,
Master, Master's Mate, and half of the able-bodied seamen have tossed
the attempted mutineers overboard into a launch.
... Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
Bigotry and ignorance is when a person creates this kind of rift
within the body of Christ for his own personal gain.
To the contrary. He's helping enormously to escort the church
into the 21st century,
Apparently you don't read the Bible you falsely claim is your moral
authority.
It says to LOVE your neighbors, not be HATEFUL to them.
Which has exactly what to do with what's happening here?
Obviously, the powers-that-be in the church are aware of that.
Obviously they are aware that the Bible doesn't stop there.
God hates people that sow discord amongst bretheren. Motivation
apparently has no relevance there.
Not as much as He hates bigotry, I'll bet.
Where in the Bible does it say God hates bigotry? God is a bigot
himself.
He's helping enormously to escort the church into
the 21st century,
That's not the function of the body of Christ, at least, not
according to your Bible which you falsely claim is your moral authority.
Know thee not that a friend of the world is the enemy of God?
And a friend of one's neighbors is too?
Does not follow.
Sorry, that doesn't
compute.
What are you talking about???
--S
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| User: "386sx" |
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03 Nov 2003 12:46:03 PM |
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Sneechres writes:
Apparently you don't read the Bible you falsely claim is your moral
authority.
God hates people that sow discord amongst bretheren. Motivation
apparently
has no relevance there.
You could help the man out by providing some citations. (Or not.)
--
"He affirmed that only in man we had the beatings of the heart, that the
left side of the body was colder than the right, that men have more teeth
than women." -- John Tyndall
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| User: "Sneechres" |
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04 Nov 2003 12:53:26 AM |
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386sx <386sx@email.com> wrote in message news:<m2ad7d5lzoXx386xX.fsf@jms.localhost.localnet>...
Sneechres writes:
Apparently you don't read the Bible you falsely claim is your moral
authority.
God hates people that sow discord amongst bretheren. Motivation
apparently
has no relevance there.
You could help the man out by providing some citations. (Or not.)
Proverbs 6:16, 19
Not that it'll make a difference to him.
--S
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| User: "386sx" |
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04 Nov 2003 03:32:25 AM |
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Sneechres writes:
386sx wrote:
Sneechres writes:
Apparently you don't read the Bible you falsely claim is your moral
authority.
God hates people that sow discord amongst bretheren. Motivation
apparently has no relevance there.
You could help the man out by providing some citations. (Or not.)
Proverbs 6:16, 19
Not that it'll make a difference to him.
True. He'll have it read however he wants, just like anybody else. Despite
the ageless wisdom of the Proverbs.
6:25 "Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?"
Um, yes, as a matter of fact one can. lol.
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"He affirmed that only in man we had the beatings of the heart, that the
left side of the body was colder than the right, that men have more teeth
than women." -- John Tyndall
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| User: "Jeanne" |
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03 Nov 2003 11:24:43 AM |
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(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3faff229.39213314@netnews.mchsi.com>...
To the contrary. He's helping enormously to escort the church into
the 21st century, and this era's growing value of tolerance and fairness.
Killer reminds one of the Bolsheviks of yesteryear, their idea of
peace and tolerance being that of the peace and tolerance of the
grave. If one didn't particularly care for their idea of peace and
tolerance, then did they ever have an answer for that one! And there
are now 41 million butchered, tiny souls lying in the ground which are
silent testimony to what peace and tolerance means to the Killer
Chilton's of this world.
I hope that the next pope can do as much for the Catholics.
Forget the pope, Killer. Your crowd succeeded just fine in creating a
social climate in the last forty years which in effect jammed the
seminaries with knobgobblers and fudgepackers, which homosexuals in
turn felt free to take their perversions out of the seminaries and
into the churches. But clever liberals like you weighed right in by
calling these fags pedophiles to cover that which your crowd promotes
in any other venue. And now you're working on the Boy Scouts.
"Since liberals categorically reject the notion that homosexual
conduct is often correlated with homosexuality, they have responded to
the gay sex abuse crisis in the priesthood by blaming Catholicism."
Ann Coulter
"At least we finally have The New York Times on record opposing sexual
activity between men and boys. Evidently the only men the Times thinks
should not be fondling teen-agers are those who purport to believe in
God." Ann Coulter
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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03 Nov 2003 01:10:56 PM |
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On 3 Nov 2003 09:24:43 -0800,
Jeanne Danpierre <JeannedeDanpierre@yahoo.com>
again made a total FOOL of herself when she spewed
the following lying tripe:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
To the contrary. [Gene's] helping enormously to escort the
church into the 21st century, and this era's growing value of
tolerance and fairness.
...reminds one of the Bolsheviks of yesteryear, their idea of
peace and tolerance being that of the peace and tolerance of the
grave. If one didn't particularly care for their idea of peace and
tolerance, then did they ever have an answer for that one! And there
are now 41 million butchered, tiny souls lying in the ground which are
silent testimony to what peace and tolerance means to the Killer
Chilton's of this world.
Still on that LYING kick, huh? Hasn't anyone ever told you that
leaves you with NO credibility, loser?
I hope that the next pope can do as much for the Catholics.
Forget the pope. Your crowd succeeded just fine in creating a
social climate in the last forty years which in effect jammed the
seminaries with [asininities snipped; hate-propaganda won't be
*repeated* in MY posts] ... and into the churches.
<more utter bullcrap and lies snipped>
"Since liberals categorically reject the notion that homosexual
conduct is often correlated with homosexuality, they have responded to
the gay sex abuse crisis in the priesthood by blaming Catholicism."
Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter, the moronic LOON. *THAT* "Ann Coulter?"
LOL!!!!!!!
<remaining mindlessness snipped>
Say -- you don't have ANYTHING truthful or sensible to say,
do you, mindless bigot?
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| User: "tyronerie" |
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02 Nov 2003 11:18:40 PM |
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Do you happen to know how long Gene Robinson, "The Gay Bishop", was
married before he divorced his wife so he could go "gay"?
And do you know how old his children were when he abandoned them?
xanadu222@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3fa591bb.14523883@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:33:00 -0800,
J. Taylor <jota@gorge.net> wrote:
Jim McCoy <jamesrmccoyjr@yahoo.com> wrote,
in the thread entitled: "Celebrating Gene Robinson!" ---
On Sunday November 4, the Christian church will elevate its first
openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson. Hopefully, all Christians will join
in in spirit and celebrate Gene's elevation.
I understand that Gene has his persecutors, but Jesus Christ and the
Apostle Paul had their persecutors too. All of Gene's persecutors
should understand that Gene has nothing but love in his heart for you.
Gene has also suffered as did Jesus and Paul because he is a gay
Christian. But Gene has been able to overcome, he has held out, and
he will be duly rewarded on Sunday.
On November 2, let us all celebrate the elevation of Gene Robinson!
It's Novbember 2nd, and as a FAIR-minded and sensible egalitarian, I
AM celebrating! Good for Gene!! And good for all those who made this
possible!!
Nothing to celebrate. It grieves me. You are calling wrong, right and
it is reasonable to expect more of the same.
ROTFL!!! You hyperconservative loons are getting EXACTLY what
you deserve. Just as the equally-ignorant and bigoted segregationists
did, 40 years ago when the Civil Rights Act became law.
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| User: "Clay Colwell" |
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03 Nov 2003 11:30:22 AM |
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(tyronerie) wrote in message news:<d09f0067.0311022118.232ec2c0@posting.google.com>...
Do you happen to know how long Gene Robinson, "The Gay Bishop", was
married before he divorced his wife so he could go "gay"?
No. Why don't you ask him?
And do you know how old his children were when he abandoned them?
No. Why don't you ask them, and ask them if they were even "abandoned"?
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| User: "Light Templar" |
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06 Nov 2003 04:41:54 PM |
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"Clay Colwell" <eris@io.com> wrote in message
news:f415da82.0311030930.2154d06c@posting.google.com...
qerty678@yahoo.com (tyronerie) wrote in message
news:<d09f0067.0311022118.232ec2c0@posting.google.com>...
Do you happen to know how long Gene Robinson, "The Gay Bishop", was
married before he divorced his wife so he could go "gay"?
No. Why don't you ask him?
And do you know how old his children were when he abandoned them?
No. Why don't you ask them, and ask them if they were even "abandoned"?
True, I haven't seen anything in the news that remotely references this at
all.
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