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"J Young" |
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03 Jun 2007 07:52:57 PM |
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Man wakes from 19-year coma |
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
A railway worker who emerged from a 19-year coma woke to a radically
altered Poland and thinks "the world is prettier now" than it was
under communism, his wife said Sunday.
Gertruda Grzebska, 63, said that for years she fed her husband Jan
carefully with a spoon and moved his body to prevent bed sores.
"For 19 years he did not move or say anything," Grzebska told The
Associated Press by phone. "He tried to say things but it couldn't be
understood. Sometimes we pretended we understood."
"Now he spends his days sitting in a wheelchair and last weekend we
took him out for a walk in his wheelchair," she said.
"He was so amazed to see the colorful streets, the goods," she said.
"He says the world is prettier now" than it was 19 years ago, when
Poland was still under communist rule.
"I could not talk or do anything, now it's much better," Jan Grzebski,
65, told in TVN24 Television in a weak but clear voice, lying in bed
at his home in the northern city of Dzialdowo.
"I wake up at 7 a.m. and I watch TV," he said, smiling slightly.
Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live, his wife never
gave up hope and took care of him at home.
"I would fly into a rage every time someone would say that people like
him should be euthanized, so they don't suffer," she told local daily
Gazeta Dzialdowska. "I believed Janek would recover," she said, using
an affectionate version of his name.
"This is my great reward for all the care, faith and love," she told
the AP, weeping.
"He remembers everything that was going on around him," she said. "He
talks about it and remembers the weddings of our children. He had
fever around the time of the weddings, so he knew something big was
taking place."
In 1988, when Poland was still run by a communist government, Grzebski
fell into a coma after sustaining head injuries as he was attaching
two train carriages. Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said
he would not live. Grzebski's wife took him home.
Last October he fell sick with pneumonia and had to be hospitalized
again, Grzebska said.
Doctors' efforts led to the first signs of recovery.
"He began to move and his speech was becoming clearer, although I was
the only one to understand him," she said.
Intensive rehabilitation brought more effects.
"At the start, his speech was very unclear, now it is improving
daily," said Pstragowski, who predicted his patient would soon walk.
"I am sure that without the dedication of his wife, the patient would
not have reached us in the (good) shape that he did."
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| User: "Robert Maas, see http://tinyurl.com/uh3t" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
06 Jun 2007 06:58:47 PM |
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From: J Young <youngopini...@aol.com>
Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live, his wife never
gave up hope and took care of him at home.
"I would fly into a rage every time someone would say that people like
him should be euthanized, so they don't suffer," she told local daily
Gazeta Dzialdowska. "I believed Janek would recover," she said, using
an affectionate version of his name.
I nominate Gertruda Grzebska for "best wife a man could ever have".
Any seconds? Any other wives to nominate, or is it unamimous?
I wish I could have found a woman who would love me even half as much.
The song from the movie "The King and I":
<http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/thekingandi/somethingwonderful.htm>
expresses how I wish some woman would feel about me.
That's how a woman would truly love a man.
But nobody ever came close to loving me. I've been unloved all my life.
My life has never been worth living. There's no point in continuing the pain.
My current plan: (1) Finish burning my bridges; (2) Commit suicide.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 07:54:22 PM |
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In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with this
gentleman.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 07:58:20 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with this
gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that goes
against what the doctors had predicted????
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 08:04:59 PM |
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In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with
this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that
goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between recovering from
a coma and continuing to live? He may well yet die from the Cancer you
moron. What is your medical expertise that says that Shiavo, with over 70%
of her brain mass gone, would have recovered?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 08:45:57 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with
this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that
goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between recovering
from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
The doctors predicted he was going to die. You claimed he had a chance for
full recovery.
The Doctors (who do have medical expertise) didn't say he had a chance.
Now, what is your medical expertise?
Senseless rambling isn't going to show us what your medical expertise is.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 10:37:21 PM |
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"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote...
Osprey at NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote...
JYoung at youngopini...@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with
this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that
goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between recovering
from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
What is your expertise? And please post your SAT scores, while you
are at it.
The doctors predicted he was going to die. You claimed he had a chance for
full recovery.
The Doctors (who do have medical expertise) didn't say he had a chance.
Doctors *can* be wrong, you know. I remember a doctor making the
following diagnosis:
"... from my standpoint as a physician, I would be very careful
before
I would come to the floor and say this, that the facts upon
which this
case were based are inadequate. To be able to make a diagnosis
of
persistent vegetative state--which is not brain dead; it is not
coma;
it is a specific diagnosis and typically takes multiple
examinations
over a period of time because you are looking for
responsiveness--
I have looked at the video footage. Based on the footage
provided to
me, which was part of the facts of the case, she does respond."
That was Senator Bill Frist, a physician, attempting to cast doubt on
other doctors' diagnoses of Terri Schiavo's persistent vegetative
state. And you know what? He was wrong. He seemed to see Terri's
eyes following a red balloon around the room. She couldn't have seen
it - she was blind.
Terri Schiavo was not in a coma. There was nothing left of her
cerebral cortex except fluid and dead tissue. Terri was dead; her
body just didn't know it.
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| User: "osprey" |
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04 Jun 2007 01:24:27 AM |
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On Jun 3, 11:37 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote...
Osprey at NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote...
JYoung at youngopini...@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with
this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that
goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between recovering
from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
What is your expertise? And please post your SAT scores, while you
are at it.
I'm not making any medical claims...Andrealphus is.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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04 Jun 2007 09:40:06 PM |
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On Jun 3, 11:24 pm, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
On Jun 3, 11:37 pm,Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote...
Osprey at NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote...
JYoung at youngopini...@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with
this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that
goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between recovering
from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
What is your expertise? And please post your SAT scores, while you
are at it.
I'm not making any medical claims...Andrealphus is.
No, he wasn't. He was summarizing known facts about both cases. Are
you dealing with a lot of on-the-job stress right now, or is it your
intention to come across as a rectally-impacted twonk?
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| User: "osprey" |
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04 Jun 2007 11:33:35 PM |
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On Jun 4, 10:40 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Jun 3, 11:24 pm, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
On Jun 3, 11:37 pm,Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote...
Osprey at NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote...
JYoung at youngopini...@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with
this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that
goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between recovering
from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
What is your expertise? And please post your SAT scores, while you
are at it.
I'm not making any medical claims...Andrealphus is.
No, he wasn't.
Yes he was.
He was summarizing known facts about both cases.
Please show us where it is a known fact that he was going to fully
recover.
Doctors had written him off.
Only respond if you plan on being an adult in this discussion.
Anything else, will just be ignored.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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05 Jun 2007 08:30:33 PM |
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osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote...
Osprey at NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
What is your expertise? And please post your SAT scores, while you
are at it.
I'm not making any medical claims...Andrealphus is.
No, he wasn't. He was summarizing known facts about both cases.
[--Oopsrey's rather rude interruption deleted--]
Please show us where it is a known fact that he was going to fully
recover.
He *had* recovered. The fact that he recovered implies a *chance* for
recovery. Others have already explained this to you, so why do you
insist that every participant in this thread reinvent the wheel for
your benefit? That's really *stupid*, Oopsrey.
Now, what were your SAT scores?
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| User: "Geoff" |
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05 Jun 2007 09:15:48 AM |
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osprey wrote:
He was summarizing known facts about both cases.
Please show us where it is a known fact that he was going to fully
recover.
That's not the point. The known fact is that he did recover. The known fact
is that Terry Schiavo's recovery was an impossibility. Thus conflating the
two is dishonest, at best, on J Young's part.
Doctors had written him off.
Irrelevant and from what I can see not entirely clear from the article. The
article mentioned only "doctors' predictions that he would not live". This
is terribly inexact and hearsay to boot. My guess is that they would have
told her that it is extremely unlikely that he would come out oif the coma
and that it was extemely likely that he would die.
Only respond if you plan on being an adult in this discussion.
Anything else, will just be ignored.
For someone that keeps demanding adult discussion, your constant pejorative
characterization of liberals (lie-berals) is completely at odds with this.
For the life of me, I cannot understand why conservatives (and liberals too
but much less frequently) need to reach to these depths of rhetoric.
Interestingly, there was an article in USA Today this morning about the
immigration debate and the subtitle made me think of you and this need for
you to cast liberals as liars. It said:
If the assumption is that one's opponent is lying or has ulterior motives,
we lose our ability to debate? an issue democratically
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/06/villiains_and_t.html#more
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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03 Jun 2007 08:47:18 PM |
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In News KJGdnYfpQpJL8_7bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:%yJ8i.17908$j63.2703@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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04 Jun 2007 12:11:28 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> writes:
In News KJGdnYfpQpJL8_7bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:%yJ8i.17908$j63.2703@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
More accurately, it's a stupid, irrelevant question from a dishonest and
illiterate dumbass who thinks he can command respect, but has yet (in 42
years) to figure out that it works better if he tries to earn it.
I'll never be mistaken for an MD, but I learned enough basic medicine that if
all that's left is the brain stem, there can be a living body with no
possibility of consciousness.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 08:48:16 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:GaK8i.16375$Ut6.12237@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News KJGdnYfpQpJL8_7bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:%yJ8i.17908$j63.2703@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
5th grade name calling isn't going to show us what your medical expertise
is.
What is your medical expertise that shows you are qualified to state he had
a chance for "full recovery"?
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 08:49:08 PM |
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In News S4GdnVj9a6D_8v7bnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:GaK8i.16375$Ut6.12237@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News KJGdnYfpQpJL8_7bnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:%yJ8i.17908$j63.2703@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not
live." Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical
expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
5th grade
That's all you need to be a prison guard, huh?
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 08:55:25 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not
live." Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical
expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
5th grade
That's all you need to be a prison guard, huh?
What is your medical expertise?
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 08:59:25 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not
live." Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical
expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
5th grade
That's all you need to be a prison guard, huh?
What is your medical expertise?
Nope, just plain fact, dumbass.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 09:10:22 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not
live." Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical
expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
5th grade
That's all you need to be a prison guard, huh?
What is your medical expertise?
Nope, just plain fact, dumbass.
so you have no medical training at all. Yet you seem to think you are
qualified to tell us which people who are in a coma, has or hasn't a full
chance of recovery.
That's all I was trying to get at. You can ramble on now with someone else.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 09:11:33 PM |
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In News j82dnZtn2u8I6f7bnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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In News
1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents
and other loved ones must feel when they read these type of
news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full
recovery with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not
live." Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical
expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
5th grade
That's all you need to be a prison guard, huh?
What is your medical expertise?
Nope, just plain fact, dumbass.
so
So, you're a dumbass. Get it yet?
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| User: "James Riske" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 09:17:10 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News Yu-dnTgjfouN7P7bnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not
live." Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical
expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
5th grade
That's all you need to be a prison guard, huh?
What is your medical expertise?
Nope, just plain fact, dumbass.
Why can't you answer a simple question, *****?
I bet I know...
--
Frodo: "Why do you do that?"
Sam: "What?"
Frodo: "Call him names? Run him down all the time."
Sam: "Because that's what he is Mister Frodo. There's naught left in him
but lies and deceit.
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 09:55:26 PM |
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On Jun 3, 10:17?pm, James Riske <james.ri...@h0tmail.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News Yu-dnTgjfouN7P7bnZ2dnUVZ_jCdn...@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25...@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopini...@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts.http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not
live." Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical
expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
5th grade
That's all you need to be a prison guard, huh?
What is your medical expertise?
Nope, just plain fact, dumbass.
Why can't you answer a simple question, *****?
I bet I know...
Because he's a *****.......
http://www.nambla.org/parade1.jpg
http://www.bushywood.com/gossip_images/gay_parade.jpg
http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gay_parade.jpg
--
Frodo: "Why do you do that?"
Sam: "What?"
Frodo: "Call him names? Run him down all the time."
Sam: "Because that's what he is Mister Frodo. There's naught left in him
but lies and deceit.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
03 Jun 2007 09:53:55 PM |
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On Jun 3, 9:47?pm, "Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News KJGdnYfpQpJL8_7bnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dn...@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25...@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopini...@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts.http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question.
It was, and remains a stupid, irrelevant question from a dumbass.
This from a pathetic *****
http://www.nambla.org/parade1.jpg
http://www.bushywood.com/gossip_images/gay_parade.jpg
http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gay_parade.jpg
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| User: "bramble" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
05 Jun 2007 03:43:27 PM |
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On 4 jun, 02:45, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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NoNeedtok...@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25...@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopini...@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with
this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that
goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between recovering
from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
The doctors predicted he was going to die. You claimed he had a chance for
full recovery.
The Doctors (who do have medical expertise) didn't say he had a chance.
Now, what is your medical expertise?
Senseless rambling isn't going to show us what your medical expertise is.
we cannot be sure what the doctors said. Just imagine a doctor has
said, "he would probably die." So this is quite different. One thing
is what the lady says and other is what the doctors really said.
Bramble
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| User: "Ash" |
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04 Jun 2007 03:39:28 PM |
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Osprey wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with
this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that
goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
The doctors predicted he was going to die. You claimed he had a chance
for full recovery.
The Doctors (who do have medical expertise) didn't say he had a chance.
Now, what is your medical expertise?
Senseless rambling isn't going to show us what your medical expertise is.
Perhaps if you had shown the relavance of this question, he might have
answered it
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| User: "Osprey" |
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04 Jun 2007 05:01:18 PM |
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"Ash" <ash.amanic@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Osprey wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
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In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and other
loved ones must feel when they read these type of news accounts.
http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery with
this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not live."
Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise that
goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between recovering
from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
The doctors predicted he was going to die. You claimed he had a chance
for full recovery.
The Doctors (who do have medical expertise) didn't say he had a chance.
Now, what is your medical expertise?
Senseless rambling isn't going to show us what your medical expertise is.
Perhaps if you had shown the relavance of this question, he might have
answered it
He makes a statement as if he is an authority. I asked him his
qualifications.
It's relevant.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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04 Jun 2007 09:45:41 PM |
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Osprey wrote:
Perhaps if you had shown the relavance of this question, he might
have answered it
He makes a statement as if he is an authority. I asked him his
qualifications.
It's relevant.
It's not. The only thing that is relevent is whether J Young's
characterization of the case is honest or not. Let me as you a few
questions, if I may:
* Was it the opinion of the attending physicians that, prior to her death,
Terry Schiavo was in a persistive vegetative state?
* Did brain scans prior to her death show that Terry Schiavo's brain had
atrophied more than 50%?
* Did the autopsy confirm this?
This is all a matter of public record. If you answer yes to all three of the
above, then I applaud you. You are current through 2005.
Now let's examine the other case:
* Was the Polish patient in a PVS like Schiavo?
* Did the patient in Poland have anything near the brain damage that Terry
Schiavo had?
The answer to the first is an emphatic no. The answer to the second can be
inferred by the fact that the patient is up and talking. No need for medical
creds. J Young is either a liar or willfully ignorant. QED
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
04 Jun 2007 11:35:49 PM |
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On Jun 4, 10:45 pm, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Osprey wrote:
Perhaps if you had shown the relavance of this question, he might
have answered it
He makes a statement as if he is an authority. I asked him his
qualifications.
It's relevant.
It's not. The only thing that is relevent is whether J Young's
characterization of the case is honest or not. Let me as you a few
questions, if I may:
I absolutley agree that the two cases are not related; however, that's
not what I am addressing here.
* Was it the opinion of the attending physicians that, prior to her death,
Terry Schiavo was in a persistive vegetative state?
I'm not a physician and not qualified to state; however, going by what
I read by those qualified, it appears they believed she had no chance
of recovery.
* Did brain scans prior to her death show that Terry Schiavo's brain had
atrophied more than 50%?
* Did the autopsy confirm this?
From what the "experts" said, yes.
This is all a matter of public record. If you answer yes to all three of the
above, then I applaud you. You are current through 2005.
Now let's examine the other case:
* Was the Polish patient in a PVS like Schiavo?
Nope; however, doctors (those qualified) did not believe he would
live. They were wrong, which happens.
* Did the patient in Poland have anything near the brain damage that Terry
Schiavo had?
The answer to the first is an emphatic no. The answer to the second can be
inferred by the fact that the patient is up and talking. No need for medical
creds. J Young is either a liar or willfully ignorant. QED
I totally agree that bringing Terry's case into this is foolish and
I'm not disputing that.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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05 Jun 2007 08:59:55 AM |
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osprey wrote:
* Was it the opinion of the attending physicians that, prior to her
death, Terry Schiavo was in a persistive vegetative state?
I'm not a physician and not qualified to state; however, going by what
I read by those qualified, it appears they believed she had no chance
of recovery.
Very good! For a minute there, I thought you were going to tell me that I
needed to be football player to know who won the Super Bowl.
* Did brain scans prior to her death show that Terry Schiavo's brain
had atrophied more than 50%?
* Did the autopsy confirm this?
From what the "experts" said, yes.
This is all a matter of public record. If you answer yes to all
three of the above, then I applaud you. You are current through 2005.
Now let's examine the other case:
* Was the Polish patient in a PVS like Schiavo?
Nope; however, doctors (those qualified) did not believe he would
live. They were wrong, which happens.
Right. He was lucky. That's all it is. We will likely never know why he
recovered.
* Did the patient in Poland have anything near the brain damage that
Terry Schiavo had?
The answer to the first is an emphatic no. The answer to the second
can be inferred by the fact that the patient is up and talking. No
need for medical creds. J Young is either a liar or willfully
ignorant. QED
I totally agree that bringing Terry's case into this is foolish and
I'm not disputing that.
Very good. This was all Andrealphus was trying to say. Let's put this thread
to bed.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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05 Jun 2007 09:01:44 AM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:FYedneAmXYD98fjbnZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@giganews.com...
osprey wrote:
* Was it the opinion of the attending physicians that, prior to her
death, Terry Schiavo was in a persistive vegetative state?
I'm not a physician and not qualified to state; however, going by what
I read by those qualified, it appears they believed she had no chance
of recovery.
Very good! For a minute there, I thought you were going to tell me that I
needed to be football player to know who won the Super Bowl.
No, but if you were to tell me how a play was designed to work or what calls
to make...I would expect that you have some qualifications, so I could trust
your call.
* Did brain scans prior to her death show that Terry Schiavo's brain
had atrophied more than 50%?
* Did the autopsy confirm this?
From what the "experts" said, yes.
This is all a matter of public record. If you answer yes to all
three of the above, then I applaud you. You are current through 2005.
Now let's examine the other case:
* Was the Polish patient in a PVS like Schiavo?
Nope; however, doctors (those qualified) did not believe he would
live. They were wrong, which happens.
Right. He was lucky. That's all it is. We will likely never know why he
recovered.
* Did the patient in Poland have anything near the brain damage that
Terry Schiavo had?
The answer to the first is an emphatic no. The answer to the second
can be inferred by the fact that the patient is up and talking. No
need for medical creds. J Young is either a liar or willfully
ignorant. QED
I totally agree that bringing Terry's case into this is foolish and
I'm not disputing that.
Very good. This was all Andrealphus was trying to say. Let's put this
thread to bed.
I have no problem with that.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Man wakes from 19-year coma |
04 Jun 2007 04:51:16 PM |
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In News 4M_8i.20090$RP4.13576@newsfe2-win.ntli.net,, Ash at
ash.amanic@virgin.net, typed this:
Osprey wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:%yJ8i.17908$j63.2703@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News oOWdnWocEsIw_v7bnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com,, Osprey at
NoNeedtoknow@mail.com, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:2pJ8i.731$tb6.123@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1180918377.460745.25630@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
One can only imagine the pain that Terry Schiavo's parents and
other loved ones must feel when they read these type of news
accounts. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/134507.html
Of course, unlike Terry, there was a chance for a full recovery
with this gentleman.
This is from the article...
"Despite doctors' predictions that he would not live..."
"Doctors also found cancer in his brain and said he would not
live." Now tell us Andrealphus...what exactly is your medical expertise
that goes against what the doctors had predicted????
Are you really so stupid that you cannot distinquish between
recovering from a coma and continuing to live?
I asked you a question. What is your medical expertise?
The doctors predicted he was going to die. You claimed he had a
chance for full recovery.
The Doctors (who do have medical expertise) didn't say he had a
chance. Now, what is your medical expertise?
Senseless rambling isn't going to show us what your medical
expertise is.
Perhaps if you had shown the relavance of this question, he might have
answered it
Exactly. There was no relevance between what the doctor diagnosed him of
dying from, and his recovery from the coma, not to mention the the original
poster's analogy to Terry Shiavo was completely ludicrous.
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