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MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN
Terri's brother says husband's interview full of 'distortions'
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Posted: October 28, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Diana Lynne
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
In an effort toward damage control amid allegations of abuse and
ulterior motives, the husband of the South Florida brain-damaged woman
at the center of a 10-year legal battle over her life pleaded his case
on CNN's "Larry King Live."
After insisting he loved his wife and was simply continuing his legal
battle to have her feeding tube removed out of respect for her wishes,
Michael Schiavo pulled no punches in expressing his animosity toward
Terri Schiavo's parents and siblings who have consistently blocked his
efforts, most recently with the help of Florida lawmakers and Gov. Jeb
Bush.
[Picture: Michael Schiavo on CNN's "Larry King Live." (Photo: St.
Petersburg Times)]
"They don't like me because they want the money," Schiavo told King,
in reference to $1.2 million dollars awarded him and Terri in 1992 as
a result of medical-malpractice suits over her brain injury. Schiavo
claims the money has been used to fund therapy for Terri and only
about $50,000 remains in her fund. WorldNetDaily has reported, Felos
has been paid some $358,000 from the fund and Schiavo's other attorney
reportedly received $80,000. Schiavo added that there is no life
insurance policy on Terri's life and stressed he stands to gain
nothing financially from her death.
Throughout the hour-long program last night, Schiavo painted the
Schindlers as the money grubbers.
"'How much money am I going to get?'" Schiavo claims Terri's father,
Robert Schindler, demanded of him in a conversation Feb. 14, 1993--
three months after Schiavo received the money.
[Picture: Robert Schindler at press conference Oct. 14 (photo: Gary
McCullough, Christian Communication Network)]
Bobby Schindler, Terri's brother, told WorldNetDaily Schiavo is
distorting the conversation that triggered the rift between the
Schindlers and the Schiavos.
"My father was seeking money for Terri's rehabilitation, which Michael
Schiavo was refusing to give her," he said, calling Schiavo's
accusation "ironic."
"In June of 1993, eight months after he got the malpractice money, he
tried to kill Terri by withholding antibiotics needed to treat an
infection. There was $800,000 in the fund at the time," Bobby
Schindler said.
According to court records, the caregivers at the nursing home
overruled Schiavo's order and treated Terri for her infection.
As additional "proof" that he's not in the legal battle for the money,
Schiavo told King he offered three times to donate the money to
charity two years ago.
But Bobby Schindler called it a "hollow offer."
"The offer came with the stipulation that my parents agree to let my
sister starve to death. Why would we let her starve to death?,"
Schindler told WorldNetDaily. "This is documented. We have the letter
from Felos. We even faxed it to Larry King's producers and warned them
he would make this claim. I wish Larry King would have the gumption to
ask follow-up questions."
Allegations of neglect
"She's never had a bed sore," Schiavo offered as evidence of his
contention he has provided Terri with "perfect care" in the two
nursing homes and hospice where she has resided over the past decade.
"Nursing homes are obligated by law to provide a minimum of care,"
Schindler countered. "We don't dispute the care she's been given.
We've been asking for therapy, which he hasn't given her in 10 years."
According to medical records provided to the family's attorney, Terri
has not received rehabilitative therapy since 1993. In an interview
with WorldNetDaily last year, Schiavo insisted he had provided therapy
in recent years but would not give details or associated dates.
When asked about this by King, Schiavo similarly asserted Terri had
received therapy in the last 10 years and then described the therapy
she received in 1991 at a facility in St. Petersburg, Fla., and in Los
Angeles, when King asked for details.
"If anyone abandoned her, it's [the Schindlers]," Schiavo said, adding
later "My girlfriend has done more for Terri than her own mother has."
Schiavo also claimed he "could count on one hand" the number of times
Bobby had visited his sister "before the media started covering the
story."
Asked about swallow tests the Schindlers sought before the removal of
Terri's feeding tube earlier this month to determine if she would be
able to eat on her own, Schiavo said Terri was given three swallow
tests. Felos added that when the last one was administered it was
recommended she didn't need further testing.
"The swallow tests were all done prior to 1993," said Schindler. "I
don't understand how he gets away with saying these things and nobody
calls him on anything. He has the luxury of fooling the American
public."
Schindler said Schiavo was further twisting the truth in accusing him
of not visiting his sister, when in fact, he was barred by Schiavo for
six months from visiting her.
"He doesn't allow us to do anything for Terri. He's restricted our
visits. We can't give her therapy. He won't even let us take her out
of her room," he said.
[Picture: Terri responding to her mother in video clip available on
terrisfight.org. ]
Schindler pointed to another example of distortion on the part of
Schiavo. While only four judges have been involved in adjudicating the
case over the past decade-- Pinellas County Circuit Court Judge George
Greer and three appellate court judges-- Schiavo claimed 19 judges had
"concluded this is Terri's wish" and Felos said 20 judges "found
Michael Schiavo to be a loving, caring husband."
"They're adding up all the judges on the Florida Supreme Court and the
U.S. Supreme Court even though those courts refused to hear our case,"
said Schindler.
[Picture: Circuit Court Judge George Greer (Photo: Bay News 9) ]
Similarly, while Felos gave the impression that "the trial court, the
appellate court, the state Supreme Court, the U.S. Supreme Court and
the federal circuit court" were involved in adjudicating the case, it
has primarily been adjudicated by Greer, starting with his 2000
decision to remove the feeding tube. Since Terri has no written
directive on the matter, Greer ruled it was her wish, based on
testimony from Michael Schiavo, his brother and sister-in-law that
Terri had casually told them she would not want to be kept alive by
artificial means.
"I'm going to follow Terri's wish if it's the last thing I do,"
Schiavo told King, who had difficulty challenging any of Schiavo's
assertions and was surprised to learn he had fathered a child with his
girlfriend. Schiavo failed to tell him a second child is on the way.
"You have a choice as a U.S. citizen to refuse treatment," Schiavo
added.
While sticking to this core argument of the right-to-die movement,
Schiavo repeatedly attempted to demonize "right-wing" pro-life
advocates and accused the Schindlers of being their pawns.
Schindler denied the accusation.
"Our whole focus is Terri. Michael's whole focus is something else. It
seems he has deep-seated hatred for the family and is trying to get
back at the family by killing Terri," said Schindler.
Allegations of abuse
Schiavo's PR offensive follows damning comments by world-renowned
forensic pathologist Michael Baden on Fox News Channel's "On the
Record" hosted by Greta van Susteren Friday night.
WorldNetDaily reported Baden, who is co-director of the Investigative
Unit of New York State Police in Albany and former chief medical
examiner for New York City, ruled out potassium imbalance and a heart
attack as factors in Terri's mysterious collapse 13 years ago-- which
left her severely incapacitated and unable to speak-- and pointed to
head trauma and bone injuries as a more likely cause.
Although never proven, Schiavo told Larry King a potassium imbalance--
likely due to bulimia-- caused her to suffer cardiac arrest.
Baden said he studied a bone scan made in March 1991 at a
rehabilitation facility that describes Terri as having a head injury:
"That's why she's there, that's why she's getting a bone scan."
"A head injury can ... lead to the vegetative state that Ms. Schiavo
is in now," he continued, adding the scan showed evidence of other
injuries, bone fractures in her thigh, lower back, ribs and both
ankles.
[Picture: Terri Schiavo before her collapse. ]
As WorldNetDaily reported, the bone scan surfaced last November during
evidentiary hearings on Terri's current condition and the prospects
for rehabilitation.
Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was admitted to the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously rigid neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with attempted
strangulation, prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer ruled against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's collapse casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to me if I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990-- the night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in the hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face down on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was "lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back," Schindler told
WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews] that when I
showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing his
story?"
According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler first, who
then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment complex as
his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when he arrived
on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath her and her
hands up by her neck.
"It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he heard a
"gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
Lie detector test?
Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in which
Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King opened the
show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie detector test.
Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right now."
Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri last night
and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed "ornery."
He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she was prior
to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
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Read WorldNetDaily's unparalleled, in-depth coverage of the tug of war
over Terri Schindler-Schiavo.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35305
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This article's URL is:
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MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN
Terri's brother says husband's interview full of 'distortions'
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Posted: October 28, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Diana Lynne
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
In an effort toward damage control amid allegations of abuse and
ulterior motives, the husband of the South Florida brain-damaged woman
at the center of a 10-year legal battle over her life pleaded his case
on CNN's "Larry King Live."
After insisting he loved his wife and was simply continuing his legal
battle to have her feeding tube removed out of respect for her wishes,
Michael Schiavo pulled no punches in expressing his animosity toward
Terri Schiavo's parents and siblings who have consistently blocked his
efforts, most recently with the help of Florida lawmakers and Gov. Jeb
Bush.
[Picture: Michael Schiavo on CNN's "Larry King Live." (Photo: St.
Petersburg Times)]
"They don't like me because they want the money," Schiavo told King,
in reference to $1.2 million dollars awarded him and Terri in 1992 as
a result of medical-malpractice suits over her brain injury. Schiavo
claims the money has been used to fund therapy for Terri and only
about $50,000 remains in her fund. WorldNetDaily has reported, Felos
has been paid some $358,000 from the fund and Schiavo's other attorney
reportedly received $80,000. Schiavo added that there is no life
insurance policy on Terri's life and stressed he stands to gain
nothing financially from her death.
Throughout the hour-long program last night, Schiavo painted the
Schindlers as the money grubbers.
"'How much money am I going to get?'" Schiavo claims Terri's father,
Robert Schindler, demanded of him in a conversation Feb. 14, 1993--
three months after Schiavo received the money.
[Picture: Robert Schindler at press conference Oct. 14 (photo: Gary
McCullough, Christian Communication Network)]
Bobby Schindler, Terri's brother, told WorldNetDaily Schiavo is
distorting the conversation that triggered the rift between the
Schindlers and the Schiavos.
"My father was seeking money for Terri's rehabilitation, which Michael
Schiavo was refusing to give her," he said, calling Schiavo's
accusation "ironic."
Which I believe her portion of the money was supposedly set aside for,
rehabilitation treatment. Had Schiavo not insisted that money was to
rehabilitate her, I doubt the award would've been the same. In reading some
of the court papers, his insistence upon rehab was stressed.
"In June of 1993, eight months after he got the malpractice money, he
tried to kill Terri by withholding antibiotics needed to treat an
infection. There was $800,000 in the fund at the time," Bobby
Schindler said.
According to court records, the caregivers at the nursing home
overruled Schiavo's order and treated Terri for her infection.
As additional "proof" that he's not in the legal battle for the money,
Schiavo told King he offered three times to donate the money to
charity two years ago.
But Bobby Schindler called it a "hollow offer."
"The offer came with the stipulation that my parents agree to let my
sister starve to death. Why would we let her starve to death?,"
Schindler told WorldNetDaily. "This is documented. We have the letter
from Felos. We even faxed it to Larry King's producers and warned them
he would make this claim. I wish Larry King would have the gumption to
ask follow-up questions."
Allegations of neglect
"She's never had a bed sore," Schiavo offered as evidence of his
contention he has provided Terri with "perfect care" in the two
nursing homes and hospice where she has resided over the past decade.
"Nursing homes are obligated by law to provide a minimum of care,"
Schindler countered. "We don't dispute the care she's been given.
We've been asking for therapy, which he hasn't given her in 10 years."
According to medical records provided to the family's attorney, Terri
has not received rehabilitative therapy since 1993. In an interview
with WorldNetDaily last year, Schiavo insisted he had provided therapy
in recent years but would not give details or associated dates.
As I stated earlier, as far as I can tell from the records, no
rehabilitation was given *after* the money was awarded. There's a
difference between maintanance and rehabilitation. In Schiavo's testimony
during the civil trial he insisted rehabilitation was necessary. Why then
was no more than maintanace given?
When asked about this by King, Schiavo similarly asserted Terri had
received therapy in the last 10 years and then described the therapy
she received in 1991 at a facility in St. Petersburg, Fla., and in Los
Angeles, when King asked for details.
Prior to being awareded any money.
snipped>
about swallow tests the Schindlers sought before the removal of
Terri's feeding tube earlier this month to determine if she would be
able to eat on her own, Schiavo said Terri was given three swallow
tests. Felos added that when the last one was administered it was
recommended she didn't need further testing.
"The swallow tests were all done prior to 1993," said Schindler. "I
don't understand how he gets away with saying these things and nobody
calls him on anything. He has the luxury of fooling the American
public."
Seems like everything was done prior to 1993.
ng the truth in accusing him
of not visiting his sister, when in fact, he was barred by Schiavo for
six months from visiting her.
"He doesn't allow us to do anything for Terri. He's restricted our
visits. We can't give her therapy. He won't even let us take her out
of her room," he said.
[Picture: Terri responding to her mother in video clip available on
terrisfight.org. ]
Schindler pointed to another example of distortion on the part of
Schiavo. While only four judges have been involved in adjudicating the
case over the past decade-- Pinellas County Circuit Court Judge George
Greer and three appellate court judges-- Schiavo claimed 19 judges had
"concluded this is Terri's wish" and Felos said 20 judges "found
Michael Schiavo to be a loving, caring husband."
"They're adding up all the judges on the Florida Supreme Court and the
U.S. Supreme Court even though those courts refused to hear our case,"
said Schindler.
[Picture: Circuit Court Judge George Greer (Photo: Bay News 9) ]
Similarly, while Felos gave the impression that "the trial court, the
appellate court, the state Supreme Court, the U.S. Supreme Court and
the federal circuit court" were involved in adjudicating the case, it
has primarily been adjudicated by Greer, starting with his 2000
decision to remove the feeding tube. Since Terri has no written
directive on the matter, Greer ruled it was her wish, based on
testimony from Michael Schiavo, his brother and sister-in-law that
Terri had casually told them she would not want to be kept alive by
artificial means.
"I'm going to follow Terri's wish if it's the last thing I do,"
Schiavo told King, who had difficulty challenging any of Schiavo's
assertions and was surprised to learn he had fathered a child with his
girlfriend. Schiavo failed to tell him a second child is on the way.
"You have a choice as a U.S. citizen to refuse treatment," Schiavo
added.
While sticking to this core argument of the right-to-die movement,
Schiavo repeatedly attempted to demonize "right-wing" pro-life
advocates and accused the Schindlers of being their pawns.
Schindler denied the accusation.
"Our whole focus is Terri. Michael's whole focus is something else. It
seems he has deep-seated hatred for the family and is trying to get
back at the family by killing Terri," said Schindler.
Allegations of abuse
Schiavo's PR offensive follows damning comments by world-renowned
forensic pathologist Michael Baden on Fox News Channel's "On the
Record" hosted by Greta van Susteren Friday night.
WorldNetDaily reported Baden, who is co-director of the Investigative
Unit of New York State Police in Albany and former chief medical
examiner for New York City, ruled out potassium imbalance and a heart
attack as factors in Terri's mysterious collapse 13 years ago-- which
left her severely incapacitated and unable to speak-- and pointed to
head trauma and bone injuries as a more likely cause.
Although never proven, Schiavo told Larry King a potassium imbalance--
likely due to bulimia-- caused her to suffer cardiac arrest.
Baden said he studied a bone scan made in March 1991 at a
rehabilitation facility that describes Terri as having a head injury:
"That's why she's there, that's why she's getting a bone scan."
"A head injury can ... lead to the vegetative state that Ms. Schiavo
is in now," he continued, adding the scan showed evidence of other
injuries, bone fractures in her thigh, lower back, ribs and both
ankles.
[Picture: Terri Schiavo before her collapse. ]
As WorldNetDaily reported, the bone scan surfaced last November during
evidentiary hearings on Terri's current condition and the prospects
for rehabilitation.
Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was admitted to the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously rigid neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with attempted
strangulation,
Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there wouldn't
necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this is a true crime
ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know whether a crime was
committed that night or not.
td
prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer ruled against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's collapse casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to me if I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990-- the night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in the hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face down on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was "lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back," Schindler told
WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews] that when I
showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing his
story?"
According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler first, who
then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment complex as
his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when he arrived
on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath her and her
hands up by her neck.
"It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he heard a
"gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
Lie detector test?
Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in which
Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King opened the
show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie detector test.
Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right now."
Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri last night
and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed "ornery."
He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she was prior
to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
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Read WorldNetDaily's unparalleled, in-depth coverage of the tug of war
over Terri Schindler-Schiavo.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35305
Related special offers:
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
'Killer Angel': Exposing racist convictions of Planned Parenthood's
Margaret Sanger
http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=370
The book that terrifies the abortion industry
http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=766
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Diana Lynne is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.
This article's URL is:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35304
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"Phil Calvert" <pcalvert@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN
Terri's brother says husband's interview full of 'distortions'
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Posted: October 28, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Diana Lynne
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
In an effort toward damage control amid allegations of abuse and
ulterior motives, the husband of the South Florida brain-damaged woman
at the center of a 10-year legal battle over her life pleaded his case
on CNN's "Larry King Live."
After insisting he loved his wife and was simply continuing his legal
battle to have her feeding tube removed out of respect for her wishes,
Michael Schiavo pulled no punches in expressing his animosity toward
Terri Schiavo's parents and siblings who have consistently blocked his
efforts, most recently with the help of Florida lawmakers and Gov. Jeb
Bush.
[Picture: Michael Schiavo on CNN's "Larry King Live." (Photo: St.
Petersburg Times)]
"They don't like me because they want the money," Schiavo told King,
in reference to $1.2 million dollars awarded him and Terri in 1992 as
a result of medical-malpractice suits over her brain injury. Schiavo
claims the money has been used to fund therapy for Terri and only
about $50,000 remains in her fund. WorldNetDaily has reported, Felos
has been paid some $358,000 from the fund and Schiavo's other attorney
reportedly received $80,000. Schiavo added that there is no life
insurance policy on Terri's life and stressed he stands to gain
nothing financially from her death.
Throughout the hour-long program last night, Schiavo painted the
Schindlers as the money grubbers.
"'How much money am I going to get?'" Schiavo claims Terri's father,
Robert Schindler, demanded of him in a conversation Feb. 14, 1993--
three months after Schiavo received the money.
[Picture: Robert Schindler at press conference Oct. 14 (photo: Gary
McCullough, Christian Communication Network)]
Bobby Schindler, Terri's brother, told WorldNetDaily Schiavo is
distorting the conversation that triggered the rift between the
Schindlers and the Schiavos.
"My father was seeking money for Terri's rehabilitation, which Michael
Schiavo was refusing to give her," he said, calling Schiavo's
accusation "ironic."
Which I believe her portion of the money was supposedly set aside for,
rehabilitation treatment. Had Schiavo not insisted that money was to
rehabilitate her, I doubt the award would've been the same. In reading
some
of the court papers, his insistence upon rehab was stressed.
"In June of 1993, eight months after he got the malpractice money, he
tried to kill Terri by withholding antibiotics needed to treat an
infection. There was $800,000 in the fund at the time," Bobby
Schindler said.
According to court records, the caregivers at the nursing home
overruled Schiavo's order and treated Terri for her infection.
As additional "proof" that he's not in the legal battle for the money,
Schiavo told King he offered three times to donate the money to
charity two years ago.
But Bobby Schindler called it a "hollow offer."
"The offer came with the stipulation that my parents agree to let my
sister starve to death. Why would we let her starve to death?,"
Schindler told WorldNetDaily. "This is documented. We have the letter
from Felos. We even faxed it to Larry King's producers and warned them
he would make this claim. I wish Larry King would have the gumption to
ask follow-up questions."
Allegations of neglect
"She's never had a bed sore," Schiavo offered as evidence of his
contention he has provided Terri with "perfect care" in the two
nursing homes and hospice where she has resided over the past decade.
"Nursing homes are obligated by law to provide a minimum of care,"
Schindler countered. "We don't dispute the care she's been given.
We've been asking for therapy, which he hasn't given her in 10 years."
According to medical records provided to the family's attorney, Terri
has not received rehabilitative therapy since 1993. In an interview
with WorldNetDaily last year, Schiavo insisted he had provided therapy
in recent years but would not give details or associated dates.
As I stated earlier, as far as I can tell from the records, no
rehabilitation was given *after* the money was awarded. There's a
difference between maintanance and rehabilitation. In Schiavo's testimony
during the civil trial he insisted rehabilitation was necessary. Why
then
was no more than maintanace given?
When asked about this by King, Schiavo similarly asserted Terri had
received therapy in the last 10 years and then described the therapy
she received in 1991 at a facility in St. Petersburg, Fla., and in Los
Angeles, when King asked for details.
Prior to being awareded any money.
snipped>
about swallow tests the Schindlers sought before the removal of
Terri's feeding tube earlier this month to determine if she would be
able to eat on her own, Schiavo said Terri was given three swallow
tests. Felos added that when the last one was administered it was
recommended she didn't need further testing.
"The swallow tests were all done prior to 1993," said Schindler. "I
don't understand how he gets away with saying these things and nobody
calls him on anything. He has the luxury of fooling the American
public."
Seems like everything was done prior to 1993.
ng the truth in accusing him
of not visiting his sister, when in fact, he was barred by Schiavo for
six months from visiting her.
"He doesn't allow us to do anything for Terri. He's restricted our
visits. We can't give her therapy. He won't even let us take her out
of her room," he said.
[Picture: Terri responding to her mother in video clip available on
terrisfight.org. ]
Schindler pointed to another example of distortion on the part of
Schiavo. While only four judges have been involved in adjudicating the
case over the past decade-- Pinellas County Circuit Court Judge George
Greer and three appellate court judges-- Schiavo claimed 19 judges had
"concluded this is Terri's wish" and Felos said 20 judges "found
Michael Schiavo to be a loving, caring husband."
"They're adding up all the judges on the Florida Supreme Court and the
U.S. Supreme Court even though those courts refused to hear our case,"
said Schindler.
[Picture: Circuit Court Judge George Greer (Photo: Bay News 9) ]
Similarly, while Felos gave the impression that "the trial court, the
appellate court, the state Supreme Court, the U.S. Supreme Court and
the federal circuit court" were involved in adjudicating the case, it
has primarily been adjudicated by Greer, starting with his 2000
decision to remove the feeding tube. Since Terri has no written
directive on the matter, Greer ruled it was her wish, based on
testimony from Michael Schiavo, his brother and sister-in-law that
Terri had casually told them she would not want to be kept alive by
artificial means.
"I'm going to follow Terri's wish if it's the last thing I do,"
Schiavo told King, who had difficulty challenging any of Schiavo's
assertions and was surprised to learn he had fathered a child with his
girlfriend. Schiavo failed to tell him a second child is on the way.
"You have a choice as a U.S. citizen to refuse treatment," Schiavo
added.
While sticking to this core argument of the right-to-die movement,
Schiavo repeatedly attempted to demonize "right-wing" pro-life
advocates and accused the Schindlers of being their pawns.
Schindler denied the accusation.
"Our whole focus is Terri. Michael's whole focus is something else. It
seems he has deep-seated hatred for the family and is trying to get
back at the family by killing Terri," said Schindler.
Allegations of abuse
Schiavo's PR offensive follows damning comments by world-renowned
forensic pathologist Michael Baden on Fox News Channel's "On the
Record" hosted by Greta van Susteren Friday night.
WorldNetDaily reported Baden, who is co-director of the Investigative
Unit of New York State Police in Albany and former chief medical
examiner for New York City, ruled out potassium imbalance and a heart
attack as factors in Terri's mysterious collapse 13 years ago-- which
left her severely incapacitated and unable to speak-- and pointed to
head trauma and bone injuries as a more likely cause.
Although never proven, Schiavo told Larry King a potassium imbalance--
likely due to bulimia-- caused her to suffer cardiac arrest.
Baden said he studied a bone scan made in March 1991 at a
rehabilitation facility that describes Terri as having a head injury:
"That's why she's there, that's why she's getting a bone scan."
"A head injury can ... lead to the vegetative state that Ms. Schiavo
is in now," he continued, adding the scan showed evidence of other
injuries, bone fractures in her thigh, lower back, ribs and both
ankles.
[Picture: Terri Schiavo before her collapse. ]
As WorldNetDaily reported, the bone scan surfaced last November during
evidentiary hearings on Terri's current condition and the prospects
for rehabilitation.
Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was admitted to the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously rigid neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with attempted
strangulation,
Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there wouldn't
necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this is a true crime
ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know whether a crime
was
committed that night or not.
td
I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it could have been an
accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how could he not have
succeeded, given the size difference? And if he wanted her dead, a few more
minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable. I suppose he could
have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to the effect
that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it.
prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer ruled against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's collapse casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to me if I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990-- the night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in the hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face down on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was "lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back," Schindler told
WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews] that when I
showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing his
story?"
According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler first, who
then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment complex as
his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when he arrived
on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath her and her
hands up by her neck.
"It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he heard a
"gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
Lie detector test?
Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in which
Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King opened the
show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie detector test.
Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right now."
Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri last night
and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed "ornery."
He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she was prior
to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
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29 Oct 2003 02:21:57 PM |
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"Cricket" <ccole@quixnet.net> wrote in message
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"tinydancer" <tinydancer@nospam.com> wrote in message
snipped> > >
Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was admitted to the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously rigid neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with attempted
strangulation,
Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there wouldn't
necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this is a true
crime
ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know whether a crime
was
committed that night or not.
td
I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it could have been
an
accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how could he not
have
succeeded, given the size difference? And if he wanted her dead, a few
more
minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable. I suppose he
could
have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to the effect
that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it.
I read a story somewhere, probably posted on this ng, about them having a
huge fight prior to his going to work that evening. That terri had had her
hair done that day, and he was furious about the amount of money she spent
on it. One of her friends said, she was so concerned about it, that after
he left for work, she called her friend and told her how mad Michael was
about the money she'd spent that day.
td
prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer ruled against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's collapse casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to me if I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990-- the night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in the hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face down on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was "lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back," Schindler told
WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews] that when I
showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing his
story?"
According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler first, who
then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment complex as
his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when he arrived
on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath her and her
hands up by her neck.
"It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he heard a
"gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
Lie detector test?
Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in which
Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King opened the
show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie detector test.
Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right now."
Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri last night
and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed "ornery."
He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she was prior
to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
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29 Oct 2003 07:15:11 PM |
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"tinydancer" <tinydancer@nospam.com> wrote in message
snipped> > >
Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was admitted to
the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously rigid neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with attempted
strangulation,
Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there wouldn't
necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this is a true
crime
ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know whether a
crime
was
committed that night or not.
td
I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it could have
been
an
accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how could he not
have
succeeded, given the size difference? And if he wanted her dead, a few
more
minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable. I suppose he
could
have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to the
effect
that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it.
I read a story somewhere, probably posted on this ng, about them having a
huge fight prior to his going to work that evening. That terri had had
her
hair done that day, and he was furious about the amount of money she spent
on it. One of her friends said, she was so concerned about it, that after
he left for work, she called her friend and told her how mad Michael was
about the money she'd spent that day.
But was he physically violent, does anyone know? I know a lot of people
who's yelling and screaming escalates to violence - I also know a lot that
might stomp around and holler, but would cut off their right arm before they
hit anyone. The crucial question - how mad (in terms of what he might do)
*was* Michael?
I have a customer who's husband doesn't speak or interact with her at all
for days when he's really mad - she might call and tell me "how mad he was",
but violence is in no way implied (except maybe her urge to throttle *him*
;>)
td
prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer ruled
against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's collapse
casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to me if I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990-- the
night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in the hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face down on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was
"lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back," Schindler
told
WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews] that when I
showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing his
story?"
According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler first, who
then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment complex as
his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when he
arrived
on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath her and
her
hands up by her neck.
"It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he heard a
"gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
Lie detector test?
Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in which
Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King opened the
show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie detector test.
Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right now."
Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri last night
and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed
"ornery."
He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she was
prior
to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
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| User: "tinydancer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN |
29 Oct 2003 07:51:46 PM |
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"Cricket" <ccole@quixnet.net> wrote in message
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"Cricket" <ccole@quixnet.net> wrote in message
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"tinydancer" <tinydancer@nospam.com> wrote in message
snipped> > >
Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was admitted to
the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously rigid
neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with attempted
strangulation,
Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there wouldn't
necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this is a true
crime
ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know whether a
crime
was
committed that night or not.
td
I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it could have
been
an
accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how could he not
have
succeeded, given the size difference? And if he wanted her dead, a
few
more
minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable. I suppose he
could
have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to the
effect
that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it.
I read a story somewhere, probably posted on this ng, about them having
a
huge fight prior to his going to work that evening. That terri had had
her
hair done that day, and he was furious about the amount of money she
spent
on it. One of her friends said, she was so concerned about it, that
after
he left for work, she called her friend and told her how mad Michael was
about the money she'd spent that day.
But was he physically violent, does anyone know? I know a lot of people
who's yelling and screaming escalates to violence - I also know a lot that
might stomp around and holler, but would cut off their right arm before
they
hit anyone. The crucial question - how mad (in terms of what he might do)
*was* Michael?
I have a customer who's husband doesn't speak or interact with her at all
for days when he's really mad - she might call and tell me "how mad he
was",
but violence is in no way implied (except maybe her urge to throttle *him*
;>)
I don't know, but it is something I'd like to know. I mean most of us are
here because we are true crime fanatics of some sort. And I haven't seen or
heard anything that's caused me to be able to discern exactly what's going
on with this situation, who's side to believe.
That silent treatment would drive me nuts. We always hash it out, I think
that's the way we've managed to stay together and thrive for so many years.
td
prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer ruled
against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's collapse
casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to me if
I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990-- the
night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in the
hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face down
on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was
"lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back," Schindler
told
WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews] that when
I
showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing his
story?"
According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler first, who
then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment complex
as
his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when he
arrived
on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath her and
her
hands up by her neck.
"It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he heard a
"gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
Lie detector test?
Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in which
Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King opened
the
show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie detector
test.
Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right now."
Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri last
night
and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed
"ornery."
He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she was
prior
to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
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over Terri Schindler-Schiavo.
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Related special offers:
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Parenthood's
Margaret Sanger
http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=370
The book that terrifies the abortion industry
http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=766
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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This article's URL is:
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| Title: Re: Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN |
30 Oct 2003 06:25:11 AM |
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"tinydancer" <tinydancer@nospam.com> wrote in
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And I haven't seen or
heard anything that's caused me to be able to discern exactly what's
going on with this situation, who's side to believe.
I have to think, at this point, that this is because you've chosen not to.
--
--Robert
"I believe in having a good heart, a chirpy penis,
a lively intelligence, and the courage to say "*****!"
in front of a lady."
--D.H. Lawrence, Lady Chatterley's Lover
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29 Oct 2003 08:27:01 PM |
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"tinydancer" <tinydancer@nospam.com> wrote in message
snipped> > >
Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was admitted
to
the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously rigid
neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with
attempted
strangulation,
Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there wouldn't
necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this is a
true
crime
ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know whether a
crime
was
committed that night or not.
td
I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it could have
been
an
accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how could he
not
have
succeeded, given the size difference? And if he wanted her dead, a
few
more
minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable. I suppose
he
could
have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to the
effect
that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it.
I read a story somewhere, probably posted on this ng, about them
having
a
huge fight prior to his going to work that evening. That terri had
had
her
hair done that day, and he was furious about the amount of money she
spent
on it. One of her friends said, she was so concerned about it, that
after
he left for work, she called her friend and told her how mad Michael
was
about the money she'd spent that day.
But was he physically violent, does anyone know? I know a lot of people
who's yelling and screaming escalates to violence - I also know a lot
that
might stomp around and holler, but would cut off their right arm before
they
hit anyone. The crucial question - how mad (in terms of what he might
do)
*was* Michael?
I have a customer who's husband doesn't speak or interact with her at
all
for days when he's really mad - she might call and tell me "how mad he
was",
but violence is in no way implied (except maybe her urge to throttle
*him*
;>)
I don't know, but it is something I'd like to know. I mean most of us are
here because we are true crime fanatics of some sort. And I haven't seen
or
heard anything that's caused me to be able to discern exactly what's going
on with this situation, who's side to believe.
That silent treatment would drive me nuts. We always hash it out, I think
that's the way we've managed to stay together and thrive for so many
years.
Me too. Sometimes John and/or I will stomp off in a huff for an hour or so,
in the interest of not saying something we can't unsay, but silent treatment
as a weapon sucks. But so far she hasn't murder nor divorced him, so I
guess it half-assed works for them.
td
prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer ruled
against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's collapse
casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to me
if
I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990-- the
night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in the
hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face down
on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was
"lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back," Schindler
told
WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews] that
when
I
showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing his
story?"
According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler first,
who
then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment
complex
as
his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when he
arrived
on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath her
and
her
hands up by her neck.
"It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he heard a
"gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
Lie detector test?
Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in
which
Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King opened
the
show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie detector
test.
Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right now."
Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri last
night
and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed
"ornery."
He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she was
prior
to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
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Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was admitted
to
the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously rigid
neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with
attempted
strangulation,
Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there
wouldn't
necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this is a
true
crime
ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know whether
a
crime
was
committed that night or not.
td
I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it could
have
been
an
accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how could he
not
have
succeeded, given the size difference? And if he wanted her dead,
a
few
more
minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable. I suppose
he
could
have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to the
effect
that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it.
I read a story somewhere, probably posted on this ng, about them
having
a
huge fight prior to his going to work that evening. That terri had
had
her
hair done that day, and he was furious about the amount of money she
spent
on it. One of her friends said, she was so concerned about it, that
after
he left for work, she called her friend and told her how mad Michael
was
about the money she'd spent that day.
But was he physically violent, does anyone know? I know a lot of
people
who's yelling and screaming escalates to violence - I also know a lot
that
might stomp around and holler, but would cut off their right arm
before
they
hit anyone. The crucial question - how mad (in terms of what he might
do)
*was* Michael?
I have a customer who's husband doesn't speak or interact with her at
all
for days when he's really mad - she might call and tell me "how mad he
was",
but violence is in no way implied (except maybe her urge to throttle
*him*
;>)
I don't know, but it is something I'd like to know. I mean most of us
are
here because we are true crime fanatics of some sort. And I haven't
seen
or
heard anything that's caused me to be able to discern exactly what's
going
on with this situation, who's side to believe.
That silent treatment would drive me nuts. We always hash it out, I
think
that's the way we've managed to stay together and thrive for so many
years.
Me too. Sometimes John and/or I will stomp off in a huff for an hour or
so,
in the interest of not saying something we can't unsay, but silent
treatment
as a weapon sucks. But so far she hasn't murder nor divorced him, so I
guess it half-assed works for them.
Yeah, we do the stomping off too, but not the long term silent treatment.
Maybe we enjoy the 'making up' part too much to carry out the silent
treatment? ;-)
Ya know, I have some friends who actually seem to thrive on that silent
treatment thing. It's like they have so little in common that the silent
treatment takes some of the pressure off having to relate or something.
td
prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer ruled
against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's
collapse
casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to me
if
I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to
her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her
trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990--
the
night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in
the
hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face
down
on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was
"lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back,"
Schindler
told
WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews] that
when
I
showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing
his
story?"
According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler first,
who
then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment
complex
as
his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when he
arrived
on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath her
and
her
hands up by her neck.
"It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he heard
a
"gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
Lie detector test?
Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in
which
Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King
opened
the
show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie detector
test.
Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right
now."
Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri last
night
and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed
"ornery."
He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she
was
prior
to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
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29 Oct 2003 09:19:44 PM |
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Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was
admitted
to
the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously
rigid
neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with
attempted
strangulation,
Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there
wouldn't
necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this is
a
true
crime
ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know
whether
a
crime
was
committed that night or not.
td
I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it could
have
been
an
accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how could
he
not
have
succeeded, given the size difference? And if he wanted her
dead,
a
few
more
minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable. I
suppose
he
could
have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to
the
effect
that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it.
I read a story somewhere, probably posted on this ng, about them
having
a
huge fight prior to his going to work that evening. That terri
had
had
her
hair done that day, and he was furious about the amount of money
she
spent
on it. One of her friends said, she was so concerned about it,
that
after
he left for work, she called her friend and told her how mad
Michael
was
about the money she'd spent that day.
But was he physically violent, does anyone know? I know a lot of
people
who's yelling and screaming escalates to violence - I also know a
lot
that
might stomp around and holler, but would cut off their right arm
before
they
hit anyone. The crucial question - how mad (in terms of what he
might
do)
*was* Michael?
I have a customer who's husband doesn't speak or interact with her
at
all
for days when he's really mad - she might call and tell me "how mad
he
was",
but violence is in no way implied (except maybe her urge to throttle
*him*
;>)
I don't know, but it is something I'd like to know. I mean most of us
are
here because we are true crime fanatics of some sort. And I haven't
seen
or
heard anything that's caused me to be able to discern exactly what's
going
on with this situation, who's side to believe.
That silent treatment would drive me nuts. We always hash it out, I
think
that's the way we've managed to stay together and thrive for so many
years.
Me too. Sometimes John and/or I will stomp off in a huff for an hour or
so,
in the interest of not saying something we can't unsay, but silent
treatment
as a weapon sucks. But so far she hasn't murder nor divorced him, so I
guess it half-assed works for them.
Yeah, we do the stomping off too, but not the long term silent treatment.
Maybe we enjoy the 'making up' part too much to carry out the silent
treatment? ;-)
Ya know, I have some friends who actually seem to thrive on that silent
treatment thing. It's like they have so little in common that the silent
treatment takes some of the pressure off having to relate or something.
Speaking from experience, I used to do the silent treatment too... my ex
used to beg me to talk, yell, scream, or anything! I was clinically
depressed and simply couldn't speak when angry. Of course then they put me
on the medication... and my ex regretted ever asking me to talk!! :))
td
prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer
ruled
against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's
collapse
casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems to
me
if
I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to
her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the
strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her
trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25, 1990--
the
night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud" in
the
hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying face
down
on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was
"lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back,"
Schindler
told
WorldNetDaily. "He has also stated [in other interviews]
that
when
I
showed up he was cradling her in his arms. Now he's changing
his
story?"
According to Schindler, Schiavo called Robert Schindler
first,
who
then alerted Bobby because he lived in the same apartment
complex
as
his sister, and then called 911. Bobby Schindler said when
he
arrived
on the scene, Terri was face down with her arms underneath
her
and
her
hands up by her neck.
"It's etched in my mind," said Schindler, adding that he
heard
a
"gurgling or snoring sound" coming from Terri.
Lie detector test?
Following 45 minutes of a they-said, he-said discussion, in
which
Schiavo repeatedly accused the Schindlers of lying, King
opened
the
show to callers who asked tougher questions than King.
One caller asked if Schiavo was willing to take a lie
detector
test.
Schiavo responded, "I'll refrain from answering that right
now."
Meanwhile, Schindler told WorldNetDaily he visited Terri
last
night
and said she was doing "remarkably well" although she seemed
"ornery."
He described her as alert and responsive and back to how she
was
prior
to last week's six-day stint without the feeding tube.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
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tug
of
war
over Terri Schindler-Schiavo.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35305
Related special offers:
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35123
'Killer Angel': Exposing racist convictions of Planned
Parenthood's
Margaret Sanger
http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=370
The book that terrifies the abortion industry
http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=766
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
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| Title: Re: Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN |
29 Oct 2003 09:36:40 PM |
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Coupled with medical records that indicated Terri was
admitted
to
the
hospital the night of her collapse with a "suspiciously
rigid
neck"
which two physicians described as being consistent with
attempted
strangulation,
Schiavo is 6'6", had he tried to strangle his wife, there
wouldn't
necessarily have to be any other injuries. Afterall, this
is
a
true
crime
ng. Personally, I don't have enough information to know
whether
a
crime
was
committed that night or not.
td
I'm wondering, if he tried to strangle her (admittedly it
could
have
been
an
accident in anger that he didn't intend to complete), how
could
he
not
have
succeeded, given the size difference? And if he wanted her
dead,
a
few
more
minutes before calling 911 wouldn't have been provable. I
suppose
he
could
have done it in a rage, but I don't recall reading anything to
the
effect
that he had a violent temper, though I may have missed it.
I read a story somewhere, probably posted on this ng, about them
having
a
huge fight prior to his going to work that evening. That terri
had
had
her
hair done that day, and he was furious about the amount of money
she
spent
on it. One of her friends said, she was so concerned about it,
that
after
he left for work, she called her friend and told her how mad
Michael
was
about the money she'd spent that day.
But was he physically violent, does anyone know? I know a lot of
people
who's yelling and screaming escalates to violence - I also know a
lot
that
might stomp around and holler, but would cut off their right arm
before
they
hit anyone. The crucial question - how mad (in terms of what he
might
do)
*was* Michael?
I have a customer who's husband doesn't speak or interact with her
at
all
for days when he's really mad - she might call and tell me "how
mad
he
was",
but violence is in no way implied (except maybe her urge to
throttle
*him*
;>)
I don't know, but it is something I'd like to know. I mean most of
us
are
here because we are true crime fanatics of some sort. And I haven't
seen
or
heard anything that's caused me to be able to discern exactly what's
going
on with this situation, who's side to believe.
That silent treatment would drive me nuts. We always hash it out, I
think
that's the way we've managed to stay together and thrive for so many
years.
Me too. Sometimes John and/or I will stomp off in a huff for an hour
or
so,
in the interest of not saying something we can't unsay, but silent
treatment
as a weapon sucks. But so far she hasn't murder nor divorced him, so
I
guess it half-assed works for them.
Yeah, we do the stomping off too, but not the long term silent
treatment.
Maybe we enjoy the 'making up' part too much to carry out the silent
treatment? ;-)
Ya know, I have some friends who actually seem to thrive on that silent
treatment thing. It's like they have so little in common that the
silent
treatment takes some of the pressure off having to relate or something.
Speaking from experience, I used to do the silent treatment too... my ex
used to beg me to talk, yell, scream, or anything! I was clinically
depressed and simply couldn't speak when angry. Of course then they put me
on the medication... and my ex regretted ever asking me to talk!! :))
I bet! ;)
td
prompted the Schindlers to seek an investigation of the
1990 collapse. Amid strenous objection from Felos, Greer
ruled
against
such a probe.
Bobby Schindler said the refusal to investigate Terri's
collapse
casts
doubt on Schiavo's assertion he still loves his wife.
"The broken bones got there somehow," he said. "It seems
to
me
if
I
were her husband I would want to find out what happened to
her."
In last night's interview, Schiavo addressed the
strangulation
testimony by asking why her neck was not bruised and her
trachea
damaged.
Terri's collapse
The CNN show began with Schiavo's recount of Feb. 25,
1990--
the
night
of the collapse. According to Schiavo, he heard a "thud"
in
the
hall
at 4:30 a.m. and got out of bed to find his wife lying
face
down
on
the floor. Schiavo said he rolled her over and saw she was
"lifeless"
and called 911.
"If Michael rolled her over, then he rolled her back,"
Schindler
told
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