Science > Abortion > Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay
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20 Oct 2005 11:27:02 PM |
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Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
This woman should claim that she was only exercising her "right to choose"
and have the ACLU represent her in court.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/12955752.htm
Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay
SAN FRANCISCO - A mentally ill woman seen dropping her three sons into San
Francisco Bay from a downtown pier was charged with three counts of murder
Thursday while anguished relatives kept vigil and rescuers combed the chilly
water for the bodies of two of the victims.
Lashuan T. Harris, 23, of Oakland, was held in a hospital jail ward after
police saw her pushing an empty baby stroller away from the pier where a
witness reported spotting a woman drop the children off the end Wednesday
night.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
22 Oct 2005 07:52:45 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Pauline Barclay
<pauline.barclay@blazemail.com> posting the following on Sat, 22 Oct
2005 19:40:37 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:18:46 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
According to what I'm hearing in the local media (I live in the SFBA)
she stopped taking her meds because she assumed she was cured. This
happened after she found Jesus in a big way.
Oh, no.
Yup. Knowing several people with schizophrenia, this is common. You
take the pills, the voices go away, you're cured! Alas, the voices
seem a normal part of your life, so when they come back, you don't
think "I'm sick."
She didn't have a regular doctor. She was living on public assitance
and getting her meds through MediCal.
No therapy and no regular doctor yet she's taking meds? Nobody was
assigned to monitor her, at least?
I'
m sure some public health worker had her file in a stack with
thousands of others, all of whom really need help, but can't afford
it.
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
22 Oct 2005 10:19:42 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:ljnll1115ffejk9l5id4l6n11l1trjiefp@4ax.com:
What's so funny about peace, love and Pauline Barclay
<pauline.barclay@blazemail.com> posting the following on Sat, 22 Oct
2005 19:40:37 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:18:46 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
According to what I'm hearing in the local media (I live in the SFBA)
she stopped taking her meds because she assumed she was cured. This
happened after she found Jesus in a big way.
Oh, no.
Yup. Knowing several people with schizophrenia, this is common. You
take the pills, the voices go away, you're cured! Alas, the voices
seem a normal part of your life, so when they come back, you don't
think "I'm sick."
Bush heard voices and thinks his "god" told him to invade Iraq and kill
tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children. Wonder if he is
on meds? If not, maybe he should be since he has his finger on the
nuclear trigger.
She didn't have a regular doctor. She was living on public assitance
and getting her meds through MediCal.
No therapy and no regular doctor yet she's taking meds? Nobody was
assigned to monitor her, at least?
I'
m sure some public health worker had her file in a stack with
thousands of others, all of whom really need help, but can't afford
it.
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
22 Oct 2005 12:39:26 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:44:03 GMT, in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
<ovckl1tt1fbulfij5r9rqa0g4hrs8ukvdv@4ax.com>:
What's so funny about peace, love and B1ackwater <bw@baarrk.net>
posting the following on Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:24:40 GMT iin
alt.atheism?
Hey, The VOICES commanded her to do it. Not HER fault.
Arrest the Voices ....
She was on medication for schizophrenia, and stopped taking it. That
makes her responsible for her actions.
Of course it isn't that simple.
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| User: "Asmodeus bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
22 Oct 2005 12:48:51 PM |
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David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in
news:i9ukl1d4c6ogefifircs6iveiouct553fi@4ax.com:
Of course it isn't that simple
It's not about her. It's about those three children.
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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22 Oct 2005 08:04:21 PM |
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Asmodeus wrote:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in
news:i9ukl1d4c6ogefifircs6iveiouct553fi@4ax.com:
Of course it isn't that simple
It's not about her. It's about those three children.
Of course it's about her. The kids are dead, and nothing can be done at
this point to bring them back. So the question now is how to best keep
her from doing this again.
Punishing her with prison isn't going to help if she doesn't understand
what she's being punished for. And putting her in a mental ward is
hardly letting her go free.
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SFBay |
22 Oct 2005 09:46:32 PM |
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Tim McGaughy wrote:
Asmodeus wrote:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in
news:i9ukl1d4c6ogefifircs6iveiouct553fi@4ax.com:
Of course it isn't that simple
It's not about her. It's about those three children.
Of course it's about her. The kids are dead, and nothing can be done at
this point to bring them back. So the question now is how to best keep
her from doing this again.
Punishing her with prison isn't going to help if she doesn't understand
what she's being punished for. And putting her in a mental ward is
hardly letting her go free.
Exactly, but as I mentioned earlier CA hasn't much of a mental health
system anymore. There used to be a few hundred state run mental
hospitals until Raygun closed them. In the cases of a couple that was
good (IE Camarillo in Ventura county, that place was right out of all
those asylum movies from the 50s, but in many places the hospitals were
very good IE Fairview in Orange county.
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
22 Oct 2005 01:03:21 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:48:51 -0500, in alt.atheism
Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote in
<Xns96F78C87E9BF6bondcrightwingnation@216.196.97.142>:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in
news:i9ukl1d4c6ogefifircs6iveiouct553fi@4ax.com:
Of course it isn't that simple
It's not about her. It's about those three children.
Keep reminding us how little you know about our legal system.
By the way, are you really a liberal parodying wingnuts?
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| User: "Asmodeus bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom" |
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22 Oct 2005 01:08:47 PM |
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David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in
news:qjvkl1t8vei75ltpftlnba09mh3nc6n59n@4ax.com:
Keep reminding us how little you know about our legal system
The legal system that has been bent so far toward the protection
of criminals, you mean. I'm aware of it. That doesn't change a
damn thing. Three children were murdered -- yet you're worried
about the murderer.
Doesn't say much for you or your principles.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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24 Oct 2005 10:35:09 PM |
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Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in
news:qjvkl1t8vei75ltpftlnba09mh3nc6n59n@4ax.com:
Keep reminding us how little you know about our legal system
The legal system that has been bent so far toward the protection
of criminals, you mean. I'm aware of it.
That's why we should execute YOU right now before you kill
any more innocent people.
What? You _say_ that you're not a criminal? You're a liar. Of
course you're a criminal, and we cannot stand by while criminals
like you game the legal system and get away with your crimes.
There's a point in that, if you're smart enough to get it.
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rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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24 Oct 2005 10:50:51 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote:
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in
news:qjvkl1t8vei75ltpftlnba09mh3nc6n59n@4ax.com:
Keep reminding us how little you know about our legal system
The legal system that has been bent so far toward the protection
of criminals, you mean. I'm aware of it.
That's why we should execute YOU right now before you kill
any more innocent people.
What? You _say_ that you're not a criminal? You're a liar. Of
course you're a criminal, and we cannot stand by while criminals
like you game the legal system and get away with your crimes.
There's a point in that, if you're smart enough to get it.
touche! (he won't get it)
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| User: "Asmodeus bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom" |
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25 Oct 2005 10:37:51 AM |
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Mimi Cohen <imnot@cox.net> wrote in news:tYh7f.10963$gj1.3302
@fed1read05:
touche! (he won't get it)
You're surely the stupidest human being I've run across on
Usenet for at least ten years. I got it. It's a stupid attempt
at a point, but that's par for liberalism.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Oct 2005 11:36:34 AM |
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Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote:
Mimi Cohen <imnot@cox.net>
touche! (he won't get it)
You're surely the stupidest human being I've run across on
Usenet for at least ten years. I got it. It's a stupid attempt
at a point, but that's par for liberalism.
Smirk. Like most right-wing morons you claim you got it but offer no
response other than to spew more of your hate. Not only that, you're
stupid enough to think that only _other_ people will be wrongly
convicted and executed, and never you.
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rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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25 Oct 2005 12:58:27 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote:
Mimi Cohen <imnot@cox.net>
touche! (he won't get it)
You're surely the stupidest human being I've run across on
Usenet for at least ten years. I got it. It's a stupid attempt
at a point, but that's par for liberalism.
Smirk. Like most right-wing morons you claim you got it but offer no
response other than to spew more of your hate. Not only that, you're
stupid enough to think that only _other_ people will be wrongly
convicted and executed, and never you.
:)
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| User: "Asmodeus bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom" |
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25 Oct 2005 01:37:04 PM |
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Mimi Cohen <imnot@cox.net> wrote in news:7nu7f.11032$gj1.7186
@fed1read05:
:)
And the diaper girl uses cute little smileys too. I bet you
love to fingerpaint, eh?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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26 Oct 2005 10:52:20 AM |
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Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote:
Mimi Cohen <imnot@cox.net>
:)
And the diaper girl uses cute little smileys too. I bet you
love to fingerpaint, eh?
I see that you're only brave enough to pick on little girls.
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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25 Oct 2005 03:45:42 PM |
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Asmodeus wrote:
Mimi Cohen <imnot@cox.net> wrote in news:7nu7f.11032$gj1.7186
@fed1read05:
:)
And the diaper girl uses cute little smileys too. I bet you
love to fingerpaint, eh?
I'm so impressed by your big words "diaper girl" you're such a loser,
finger painting is your bailiwick, not mine, I prefer acrylics they
don't run the way water based paints do. Of course no one responsible
would let you mess with anything that wasn't water-based you might
inadvertently poison yourself.
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| User: "Tim Crowley" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
25 Oct 2005 01:59:26 PM |
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Asmodeus wrote:
Mimi Cohen <imnot@cox.net> wrote in news:7nu7f.11032$gj1.7186
@fed1read05:
:)
And the diaper girl uses cute little smileys too. I bet you
love to fingerpaint, eh?
Has anyone told you lately that you're uselss and dumb as dirt?
I'll bet they have.
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| User: "Asmodeus bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom" |
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25 Oct 2005 02:08:18 PM |
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"Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1130266766.571437.309360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Has anyone told you lately that you're uselss and dumb as dirt?
Awww, ain't it cute, another diapered leftist!
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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27 Oct 2005 05:41:33 PM |
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Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote in
news:Xns96FA99FF2985Dbondcrightwingnation@216.196.97.142:
"Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1130266766.571437.309360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Has anyone told you lately that you're uselss and dumb as dirt?
Awww, ain't it cute, another diapered leftist!
what makes you think he dresses like your blow-up dolls?
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| User: "Asmodeus bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom" |
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28 Oct 2005 09:41:43 AM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns96FCBE2502887keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
what makes you think he dresses like your blow-up dolls?
See? Take those meds, keegan, now you think everybody has
the same dolls you do.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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28 Oct 2005 09:06:40 PM |
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Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote in
news:Xns96FD6CCDE2603bondcrightwingnation@216.196.97.142:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns96FCBE2502887keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
what makes you think he dresses like your blow-up dolls?
See? Take those meds, keegan, now you think everybody has
the same dolls you do.
i see the subject you raised so embarassed you that you deleted it.
maybe you're finally learning something.
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| User: "Asmodeus bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom" |
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29 Oct 2005 09:01:24 AM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns96FDE0ED05D61keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
i see the subject you raised so embarassed you that you deleted it
You're babbling again, keegan. Meds. Now.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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29 Oct 2005 09:06:46 AM |
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Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote in
news:Xns96FE65F83C792bondcrightwingnation@216.196.97.142:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns96FDE0ED05D61keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
i see the subject you raised so embarassed you that you deleted it
You're babbling again, keegan. Meds. Now.
you demonstrate the accuracy of my observation.
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SFBay |
29 Oct 2005 02:35:06 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote in
news:Xns96FE65F83C792bondcrightwingnation@216.196.97.142:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns96FDE0ED05D61keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
i see the subject you raised so embarassed you that you deleted it
You're babbling again, keegan. Meds. Now.
you demonstrate the accuracy of my observation.
He's a moron, he "proves" his lie about PhD everytime he posts.
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| User: "pauline barclay" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
29 Oct 2005 03:45:29 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:35:06 -0700, Mimi Cohen <imnot@cox.net> wrote:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote in
news:Xns96FE65F83C792bondcrightwingnation@216.196.97.142:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns96FDE0ED05D61keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
i see the subject you raised so embarassed you that you deleted it
You're babbling again, keegan. Meds. Now.
you demonstrate the accuracy of my observation.
He's a moron, he "proves" his lie about PhD everytime he posts.
Where did this idiot claim he was a PHD holder?
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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28 Oct 2005 10:10:17 AM |
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Asmodeus wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns96FCBE2502887keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
what makes you think he dresses like your blow-up dolls?
See? Take those meds, keegan, now you think everybody has
the same dolls you do.
another example of your "witty reparte", doofus? You're a moron as plain
as day and all the world can see you for what you are and more
importantly for what you're *NOT*
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| User: "Eric da Red" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
26 Oct 2005 12:32:07 PM |
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Asmodeus wrote:
"Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1130266766.571437.309360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Has anyone told you lately that you're uselss and dumb as dirt?
Awww, ain't it cute, another diapered leftist!
Crowley is partially wrong, anyway. Dirt, unlike you, is useful.
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| User: "Asmodeus bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom" |
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26 Oct 2005 02:00:25 PM |
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"Eric da Red" <bergamot5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1130347927.860098.36460@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Crowley is partially wrong, anyway
That's a given; he's a liberal. Liberals are always wrong. Liberals
were wrong about Stalin and the USSR, they were wrong about McCarthy,
they were wrong about the Cold War, they were wrong about Reagan,
liberals never tire of being wrong -- or supporting the enemy against
their own nation.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Mom charged with murder after allegedly throwing kids into SF Bay |
26 Oct 2005 10:09:42 PM |
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Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote:
"Eric da Red" <bergamot5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1130347927.860098.36460@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Crowley is partially wrong, anyway
That's a given; he's a liberal.
And you're a nazi?
Liberals are always wrong.
That's what Nazis say.
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rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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26 Oct 2005 10:42:57 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Asmodeus <bondcATrightwingnationDOTcom> wrote:
"Eric da Red" <bergamot5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1130347927.860098.36460@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Crowley is partially wrong, anyway
That's a given; he's a liberal.
And you're a nazi?
Liberals are always wrong.
That's what Nazis say.
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