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osprey wrote:

Dionisio <moc-rr-thgi...@5ellimd.com> wrote:

If any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother, and wife,
and children, and
bretheren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my
disciple. (Luke 14:26)

For I come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her
mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. (Matthew
10:35)

Any other questions?

Yea, why don't you actually learn what the bible is saying?

Is this another one of those "you need the Holy Spirit to interpret the
Bible" posts? Sorry, but if the deity is billed as omnipotent and
all-knowing, then one presumes that He can speak the language precisely
and distinctly; Without the need of a translator, interpreter, or other
methodology which would indicate -- by its very use -- that He was less
than competent at expressing Himself.

Golly. Holding God to a higher standard. What could be more blasphemous?

The problem is this:

Most atheist, know that the argument that God doesn't exist is an
argument they can't win.
They attack the bible and most often pick and choose the verses they wish
to exploit or distort, most often times not even knowing what they are
talking about.
I have met a few atheist that do know the bible very well, in fact they
probably know it in regards to what it says, better than most theist;
however, they still lack the knowledge on it's meaning, it's origin, who
actually wrote it and why.

a) God did not write the bible

All the fundies who knock on my door insist that god wrote the bible and
that proves god exists!
If god didn't write the bible, that proves that god doesn't exist,
according to them.
I don't need any such proof. To me, there are no gods.

b) The bible was written over a very long period of time, most of the
authors of each book never knew each other..yet, most write very similiar
occurences.
c) The bible was written in Hebrew and Greek, and in those times many of
the words, if not all of them, held different meanings.
d) Over the years, man has re-written or re-translated the bible.

So, we can't actually know if what we are reading in the bible is 100% of
it's original writings on scrolls and/or tablets.

So why do you believe in stories told in a book that's so distorted from
the original that they have no meaning?

Even the originals, if they were ever found, would have no meaning. Some
of the stories were written down hundreds of years after the supposed
events. In the intervening time, they were handed down using oral
tradition and were, therefore, open to error, omission, mishearing,
misremembering and deliberate change.

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279

Even the originals, if they were ever found, would have no meaning. Some of
the stories were written down hundreds of years after the supposed events.
In the intervening time, they were handed down using oral tradition and
were, therefore, open to error, omission, mishearing, misremembering and
deliberate change.

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On Sep 12, 11:50 am, "John D. Wentzky" <wxpprofessio...@msn.com>
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Is there any wonder why normal, decent people feel revulsion
when
discussing the gay political agenda?

Are you surpirsed when so many pro-chocie assholes are in
government and
schools there who are constantly saddened by people who actually
have
children and parents?
What have these idiots against their own parents?
Do you mean to say that CA now employs only those who hate their
own
parents?
And, to think they are the people who decry all those who do love
their
parents and families as hatefilled intolerant bigots.

Hatred of one's parents is what Jesus demanded.

When, *****?

Read your fucking myth-filled Bible,

Already read it.

you ignorant, hate-sodden
*****.

Looking in a mirror?

Where do we even begin to start educating cowardly,
hypocritical scum like you?

With you playing the 'get out' thing by getting out.

How about in your own Bible, in the New
Testament, in the book of Luke?

You looked it up for the first time?
Maybe you should read it a few times until you understand it.

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife,
and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my disciple." (Lu 14:26)

So, why haven't you done that yet,

The question is, why haven't you Christians obeyed the clear directive
from Christ?

You lost.

Nope, I never lose.

You presented the information.
You are burdened with answering the question.

Nope,

I am not subject to the dictates of your imaginary savior. As a follower,
you are.

Non-Christians are not subject to the whims of your imaginary
Christ-on-a-Crutch.

Now, you really lost.

Nope, it is not possible for me to lose.

When you preach the Bible

I was not preaching the bible, merely quoting from it.

Or rather, the previous poster was quoting from it.

If you quote from Shakespear, do you imagine that you are preaching
Shakespear?

you automatically become subject to it.

Nope, not even in the slightest.

Your satanist

Hmmm... First you accuse me of preaching your bible, then you accuse me
of being a satanist?

You are one really confused village idiot.

ploy that seeks to docilize the flock of Christ while you

As I recall, only the meek shall inherit the Earth, and another word for
meek is docile, correct?

blatantly admit that you are at war against it is the truth

LOL! You don't know the truth.

that seals your agenda's doom.

My agenda is the truth, so you're saying that the truth is doomed?