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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "J Young"
Date: 08 Jun 2004 11:45:42 PM
Object: Morals and Decency
The core problem of most of the subjects covered in these NG's is the
lack of decency and morals people exhibit.We,as a people,at one time
practiced virtuous behavior.Unwanted pregnancy and social diseases
were barely issues.Gays stayed in the closet.People seemed to be much
happier back then.The root of this was that morals were taught in the
home.Decency was a way of life.We need to return to those days again.
.

User: "Moira de Swardt"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 12:58:05 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message

The core problem of most of the subjects covered in these NG's is the
lack of decency and morals people exhibit.We,as a people,at one time
practiced virtuous behavior.Unwanted pregnancy and social diseases
were barely issues.Gays stayed in the closet.People seemed to be much
happier back then.The root of this was that morals were taught in the
home.Decency was a way of life.We need to return to those days again.

Do you really believe that people were happier when living double lives, not
expressing their true identities, having to get married because an unwanted
pregnancy needed to be "corrected" and remaining untreated for STIs because
it was easier than admitting one had an STI?
There has not been a shift in behaviour to any great degree, only in
attitudes to that behaviour. What is needed is a new way of describing
ethical issues relating to sexual behaviour. We are getting there slowly.
In most places children born out of wedlock are no longer stigmatised and
people who marry because a child is on the way are not regarded as being
more moral than people who refrain from marrying unless they are ready to
form a deep and committed relationship with one another apart from the
relationship as parents to the child.
We are slowly learning that love and fidelity and compassion are more
important than marriage certificates, and that marriage certificates are
sometimes important to people who love and are faithful and compassionate.
Decency is more than something which is taught. It is something which is
practiced in the inmost part of people and often costs them a great deal in
terms of denial, emotional expenditure and physical resources. Morality is
more than legalism. It is not hurting oneself or others. It is bringing
about the highest good for the individual and for society.
We, as a society, need to establish such reasoning and behaviour and then
never waiver from it. Now ideas on how to go about creating such a Utopia
would be read with interest.
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
.

User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 01:18:09 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:9c2d0f9a.0406082045.569d76f4@posting.google.com...

The core problem of most of the subjects covered in these NG's is the
lack of decency and morals people exhibit.

# By whose standards? Yours?
We,as a people,at one time

practiced virtuous behavior.

# Virtuous by whose standards? Yours?
Unwanted pregnancy and social diseases

were barely issues.

# Unwanted pregnancies and prostitution have always been with us.
Gays stayed in the closet.People seemed to be much

happier back then.

# SEEMED to be doesn't make it a fact. People seem just as happy/unhappy
today as when I was a kid many years ago.
The root of this was that morals were taught in the

home.Decency was a way of life.We need to return to those days again.

# Things were little different than they are now - people just kept
everything hidden. Gays were still Gays and women still had abortions....
people had sex and people committed adultery and murder......
--
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~{@
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
-- Robert Anton Wilson
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 07:40:22 AM
"Flower Power" <Choice@this.NG> wrote in message news:<D5Kdnf7fd6svNlvdRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>...

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:9c2d0f9a.0406082045.569d76f4@posting.google.com...

The core problem of most of the subjects covered in these NG's is the
lack of decency and morals people exhibit.


# By whose standards? Yours?

We,as a people,at one time

practiced virtuous behavior.


# Virtuous by whose standards? Yours?

Unwanted pregnancy and social diseases

were barely issues.


# Unwanted pregnancies and prostitution have always been with us.

Gays stayed in the closet.People seemed to be much

happier back then.


# SEEMED to be doesn't make it a fact. People seem just as happy/unhappy
today as when I was a kid many years ago.

The root of this was that morals were taught in the

home.Decency was a way of life.We need to return to those days again.


# Things were little different than they are now - people just kept
everything hidden. Gays were still Gays and women still had abortions....
people had sex and people committed adultery and murder......
--
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~{@
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
-- Robert Anton Wilson

Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 04:25:00 PM
"Robert B. Winn" <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
news:7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com...


Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.

## Nor are they today.

Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.

## Only when they are WANTED by their parents. I favor and support that
every child born be LOVED and WANTED. No child should be born just to be
dumped into the loveless, uncaring State Child Care system. I favor and
support women's RIGHT to choose what is best for herself and her fetus. :-)

Robert B. Winn

--
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~{@
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
-- Robert Anton Wilson
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 11 Jun 2004 09:12:15 AM
"Flower Power" <Choice@this.NG> wrote in message news:<HNidnQajM-etHVrdRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>...

"Robert B. Winn" <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
news:7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com...


Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.


## Nor are they today.

Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.


## Only when they are WANTED by their parents. I favor and support that
every child born be LOVED and WANTED. No child should be born just to be
dumped into the loveless, uncaring State Child Care system. I favor and
support women's RIGHT to choose what is best for herself and her fetus. :-)

Robert B. Winn

So if a child is not going to have a level of affluence and support
that you would approve, you believe the child should be killed.
Robert b. Winn
.
User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 11 Jun 2004 09:22:00 AM
Robert B. Winn wrote:

"Flower Power" <Choice@this.NG> wrote in message news:<HNidnQajM-etHVrdRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>...

"Robert B. Winn" <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
news:7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com...

Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.


## Nor are they today.


Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.


## Only when they are WANTED by their parents. I favor and support that
every child born be LOVED and WANTED. No child should be born just to be
dumped into the loveless, uncaring State Child Care system. I favor and
support women's RIGHT to choose what is best for herself and her fetus. :-)


Robert B. Winn



So if a child is not going to have a level of affluence and support
that you would approve, you believe the child should be killed.
Robert b. Winn

No, but a woman should still have the right to abort a *fetus*.
--
--sexkitten--MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W. Bush
I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
and potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.
Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 12 Jun 2004 10:38:31 PM
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ittglFrg1omU4@uni-berlin.de>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:

"Flower Power" <Choice@this.NG> wrote in message news:<HNidnQajM-etHVrdRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>...

"Robert B. Winn" <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
news:7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com...

Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.


## Nor are they today.


Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.


## Only when they are WANTED by their parents. I favor and support that
every child born be LOVED and WANTED. No child should be born just to be
dumped into the loveless, uncaring State Child Care system. I favor and
support women's RIGHT to choose what is best for herself and her fetus. :-)


Robert B. Winn



So if a child is not going to have a level of affluence and support
that you would approve, you believe the child should be killed.
Robert b. Winn


No, but a woman should still have the right to abort a *fetus*.

So tell me how a child is going to be LOVED and WANTED by a mother
that kills its brothers and sisters by abortion.
Robert b. Winn
.
User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 13 Jun 2004 08:34:50 AM
Robert B. Winn wrote:

--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ittglFrg1omU4@uni-berlin.de>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:


"Flower Power" <Choice@this.NG> wrote in message news:<HNidnQajM-etHVrdRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>...


"Robert B. Winn" <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
news:7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com...


Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.


## Nor are they today.



Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.


## Only when they are WANTED by their parents. I favor and support that
every child born be LOVED and WANTED. No child should be born just to be
dumped into the loveless, uncaring State Child Care system. I favor and
support women's RIGHT to choose what is best for herself and her fetus. :-)



Robert B. Winn



So if a child is not going to have a level of affluence and support
that you would approve, you believe the child should be killed.
Robert b. Winn


No, but a woman should still have the right to abort a *fetus*.



So tell me how a child is going to be LOVED and WANTED by a mother
that kills its brothers and sisters by abortion.
Robert b. Winn

Because when she has a child it will be a child she loves and wants.
--
--sexkitten--Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow they may make it illegal.
.





User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 08:52:19 AM
On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,
(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:


Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn

Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 08:58:43 AM
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?

http://tinyurl.com/2m685
Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 09:21:58 AM
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>

I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 09:28:04 AM
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.

By Robert's admission in that post, that is the cource of his
definition. In other words, none exists.
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 10:10:49 AM
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:28:04 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ii7ec059m8oqghu164vmsv6b71bmll27tl@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the cource of his
definition. In other words, none exists.

I know, and he ignores everything I say, but it is fun to point out
what he is.
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 10:13:24 AM
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:10:49 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:28:04 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ii7ec059m8oqghu164vmsv6b71bmll27tl@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the cource of his
definition. In other words, none exists.


I know, and he ignores everything I say, but it is fun to point out
what he is.

Ah. Indeed. :-)
.



User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 09:32:59 AM
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.

By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 03:15:09 PM
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.

What? Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 04:29:11 PM
"Robert B. Winn" <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
news:7943568.0406091215.49fb3009@posting.google.com...
===========================================>

What? Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?

========================
What? Do we have some people who are not in favor of WOMEN
making their own choices as to whether to bear unwanted children or not?
People who want women to PAY, PAY, PAY for having sex! How dare they have
sex and not have to PAY - right?
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 11 Jun 2004 09:07:02 AM
"Flower Power" <Choice@this.NG> wrote in message news:<rPSdnRn87KO2HFrdRVn-gg@heartoftn.net>...

"Robert B. Winn" <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
news:7943568.0406091215.49fb3009@posting.google.com...
===========================================>

What? Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?

========================
What? Do we have some people who are not in favor of WOMEN
making their own choices as to whether to bear unwanted children or not?
People who want women to PAY, PAY, PAY for having sex! How dare they have
sex and not have to PAY - right?

All sins have consequences. If you think adding the sin of homicide
to the sin of adultery is going to improve your circumstances, then I
guess you are just going to have to find out from your own experience
whether or not that is true.
Robert b. winn
.


User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 04:00:58 PM
On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,
(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406091215.49fb3009@posting.google.com> wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What? Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?
Robert B. Winn

And once again he does not answer the question but posts unrelated
garbage.
.

User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 09 Jun 2004 03:17:49 PM
On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,
(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What?

You haven't provided any credible source that proves that abortion
kills children.

Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?

We have a person who is not in favor of telling the truth about
abortion. Namely you.
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 11 Jun 2004 09:09:02 AM
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<i0sec0l4oargm8361f43siiq1q5mef4p83@4ax.com>...

On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What?


You haven't provided any credible source that proves that abortion
kills children.

Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?


We have a person who is not in favor of telling the truth about
abortion. Namely you.

I told the truth about it. Every time an abortion takes place, a child is killed.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 11 Jun 2004 04:53:48 PM
On 11 Jun 2004 07:09:02 -0700,
(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<i0sec0l4oargm8361f43siiq1q5mef4p83@4ax.com>...

On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What?


You haven't provided any credible source that proves that abortion
kills children.

Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?


We have a person who is not in favor of telling the truth about
abortion. Namely you.


I told the truth about it.

What you pronounce is true, isn't true.

Every time an abortion takes place, a child is killed.

Ditto my first response.
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 13 Jun 2004 07:51:08 AM
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ucakc051cj44j63kpt7ag92vpgkk8djsd8@4ax.com>...

On 11 Jun 2004 07:09:02 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<i0sec0l4oargm8361f43siiq1q5mef4p83@4ax.com>...

On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What?


You haven't provided any credible source that proves that abortion
kills children.

Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?


We have a person who is not in favor of telling the truth about
abortion. Namely you.


I told the truth about it.


What you pronounce is true, isn't true.

Every time an abortion takes place, a child is killed.


Ditto my first response.

The sky is blue. So what color do you think the sky is?
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Paul Anderson"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 13 Jun 2004 08:59:56 AM
On 13 Jun 2004 05:51:08 -0700,
(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ucakc051cj44j63kpt7ag92vpgkk8djsd8@4ax.com>...

On 11 Jun 2004 07:09:02 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<i0sec0l4oargm8361f43siiq1q5mef4p83@4ax.com>...

On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What?


You haven't provided any credible source that proves that abortion
kills children.

Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?


We have a person who is not in favor of telling the truth about
abortion. Namely you.


I told the truth about it.


What you pronounce is true, isn't true.

Every time an abortion takes place, a child is killed.


Ditto my first response.


The sky is blue. So what color do you think the sky is?

The sky is clear -- it has no color. Looking into the sky the color
you see is usually not blue.
At night you can see the blackness of the depths of space.
On a clear day particles in the atmosphere scatters blue light.
Morning and evenings, the light passes through a greater distance of
atmosphere and the blue light is absorbed and the remaining light
tends toward the red. Overcast days you have clouds in various shades
of grey. (or gray depending on where you live.)
Here in the Los Angeles Basin, the smog gives the air a definite brown
cast.
.

User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 13 Jun 2004 09:07:40 AM
On 13 Jun 2004 05:51:08 -0700,
(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ucakc051cj44j63kpt7ag92vpgkk8djsd8@4ax.com>...

On 11 Jun 2004 07:09:02 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<i0sec0l4oargm8361f43siiq1q5mef4p83@4ax.com>...

On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What?


You haven't provided any credible source that proves that abortion
kills children.

Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?


We have a person who is not in favor of telling the truth about
abortion. Namely you.


I told the truth about it.


What you pronounce is true, isn't true.

Every time an abortion takes place, a child is killed.


Ditto my first response.


The sky is blue. So what color do you think the sky is?

With all of the pollution in Boston, I can't tell.
Can you?
.



User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 11 Jun 2004 09:19:16 AM
Robert B. Winn wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<i0sec0l4oargm8361f43siiq1q5mef4p83@4ax.com>...

On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:


Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:


On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What?


You haven't provided any credible source that proves that abortion
kills children.


Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?


We have a person who is not in favor of telling the truth about
abortion. Namely you.



I told the truth about it. Every time an abortion takes place, a child is killed.
Robert B. Winn

Are you killing one child per abortion? How sick.
--
--sexkitten--MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W. Bush
I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
and potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.
Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 13 Jun 2004 07:52:47 AM
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ittbhFrg1omU2@uni-berlin.de>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<i0sec0l4oargm8361f43siiq1q5mef4p83@4ax.com>...

On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:


Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:


On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What?


You haven't provided any credible source that proves that abortion
kills children.


Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?


We have a person who is not in favor of telling the truth about
abortion. Namely you.



I told the truth about it. Every time an abortion takes place, a child is killed.
Robert B. Winn


Are you killing one child per abortion? How sick.

I am not killing anyone. I am not involved in abortion.
Robert B. winn
.
User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 13 Jun 2004 08:38:42 AM
Robert B. Winn wrote:

--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2ittbhFrg1omU2@uni-berlin.de>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:


Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<i0sec0l4oargm8361f43siiq1q5mef4p83@4ax.com>...


On 9 Jun 2004 13:15:09 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) wrote:



Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:



On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:



On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:



On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:




Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.


What?


You haven't provided any credible source that proves that abortion
kills children.



Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?


We have a person who is not in favor of telling the truth about
abortion. Namely you.



I told the truth about it. Every time an abortion takes place, a child is killed.
Robert B. Winn


Are you killing one child per abortion? How sick.


I am not killing anyone. I am not involved in abortion.
Robert B. winn

You said every time an abortion takes place, a child is killed, so
apparently you are killing children.
--
--sexkitten--Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow they may make it illegal.
.





User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 10 Jun 2004 05:53:26 AM
Robert B. Winn wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:


On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.



What? Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?
Robert B. Winn

You.
--
--sexkitten--Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones."
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: Morals and Decency 11 Jun 2004 09:04:28 AM
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2iqsthFqf7esU1@uni-berlin.de>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:

Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<ds7ec01d6auv4ikj13q47t3nnhum3cdqni@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:21:58 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:58:43 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ir5ec0lud977vc8f99fl9nbr0i42qolvg0@4ax.com> wrote:


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:52:19 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:


On 9 Jun 2004 05:40:22 -0700,

(Robert B.
Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id
<7943568.0406090440.3076dc88@posting.google.com> wrote:



Those things were not advertised as virtues back then.
Pro-choice adj. Favoring or supporting the right of children to be
born and make choices.
Robert B. Winn


Where can that exact definition be found? Word for word?


http://tinyurl.com/2m685

Message ID: <4c9b6e23.0301050536.49abe491@posting.google.com>


I am talking about a proper recognized source and not the mad ravings
of a mentally deficient delusional paranoid.


By Robert's admission in that post, that is the source of his
definition. In other words, no credible source exists.



What? Do we have some people who are not in favor of children being
born and making choices?
Robert B. Winn


You.

No, I am in favor of children being born.
Robert B. winn
.










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