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26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 AM |
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More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
MosNews
Russians, whose lives are shorter and poorer than they were under communism,
have more abortions than births to avoid the costs of raising children,
Bloomberg.com reported Tuesday quoting the country's highest-ranking
obstetrician.
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more" abortions
weren't reported.
"The appearance of a first child pushes many families into poverty," Kulakov
said today in the government's official newspaper, Rossiskaya Gazeta.
"Potential parents first try to start a career, stand on their feet and so
forth."
The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the ensuing hyperinflation and
depression deprived millions of Russians of their incomes and savings and
discouraged couples from having children. By 2000, the number of pensioners
in Europe's most populous country outnumbered children and adolescents for
the first time.
The increase in poverty and the decline in the quality of health care since
the fall of communism have left about six million women and 4 million men -
seven percent of Russia's 145 million people - incapable of having children.
"This is a critical level," Kulakov said.
Part of the problem is a lack of job prospects. Careers traditionally
favored by Russian women, such as in education and medicine, no longer pay a
decent salary, which leads to fewer births and ultimately a smaller
population, Kulakov said.
For every 1,000 Russians there are 16 deaths and just 10.6 births, a gap
that isn't being filled by immigrants, leading to a population decline of
about 750,000 to 800,000 a year.
Out of every 1,000 Russian newborn babies, more than 12 die before they are
one year old, an infant mortality rate five times higher than in Iceland and
three to four times higher than in Finland, Sweden, Spain and France, Russia's
Federal Statistics Service reported last week.
The average Russian man now dies at 58.8, the shortest life expectancy in
Europe and five years fewer than 15 years ago, the Statistics Service said.
Russian women have the fourth-lowest life expectancy in Europe, 72 years,
the service said, citing its own data and figures from the World Health
Organization and European Union.
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/08/23/abortionproblems.shtml
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over there die, then we deserve it for the horrible crimes we have committed
against the Iraqi people. "
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
27 Aug 2005 01:13:16 AM |
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Liberals HATE America!!., <GOUSAUSA11@USAUSA#1.orgq> wrote:
MosNews
Russians, whose lives are shorter and poorer than they were under communism,
have more abortions than births to avoid the costs of raising children,
Bloomberg.com reported Tuesday quoting the country's highest-ranking
obstetrician.
Therefore communism is better than capitalism.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "blazing laser none" |
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| Title: Re: More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
27 Aug 2005 11:21:46 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 06:13:16 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Russians, whose lives are shorter and poorer than they were under communism,
have more abortions than births to avoid the costs of raising children,
Bloomberg.com reported Tuesday quoting the country's highest-ranking
obstetrician.
Therefore communism is better than capitalism.
Well at least for preventing overpopulation it is. ;^>
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| User: "blazing laser none" |
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| Title: Re: More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
26 Aug 2005 11:59:56 AM |
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
<GOUSAUSA11@USAUSA#1.orgq> wrote:
MosNews
Russians, whose lives are shorter and poorer than they were under communism,
have more abortions than births to avoid the costs of raising children,
Bloomberg.com reported Tuesday quoting the country's highest-ranking
obstetrician.
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more" abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago. Rising gas prices and the resulting price
inflation will make them poorer in the short run. Bush's deficits and
the disappearance of manufacturing in the US will make them poorer in
the long run.
This the real agenda of the GOP--concentration of wealth. It's been
going on for about 30 years now but it's speeding up under GW. This
will lead to fewer people wanting to have kids, or being able to have
kids. And that will lead to more abortions.
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
26 Aug 2005 10:15:15 PM |
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"blazing laser" <none> wrote in message
news:taiug1ll3urdr5mde1i7gpdibkfon3ee6a@4ax.com...
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
<GOUSAUSA11@USAUSA#1.orgq> wrote:
MosNews
Russians, whose lives are shorter and poorer than they were under
communism,
have more abortions than births to avoid the costs of raising children,
Bloomberg.com reported Tuesday quoting the country's highest-ranking
obstetrician.
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them under
the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more"
abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago. Rising gas prices and the resulting price
inflation will make them poorer in the short run. Bush's deficits and
the disappearance of manufacturing in the US will make them poorer in
the long run.
You can thank Clinton for helping with that. The folly of signing NAFTA into
law will continue to follow us for years to come.
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| User: "blazing laser none" |
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| Title: Re: More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
26 Aug 2005 11:18:42 PM |
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:15:15 -0500, "Reasoned Insanity"
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago. Rising gas prices and the resulting price
inflation will make them poorer in the short run. Bush's deficits and
the disappearance of manufacturing in the US will make them poorer in
the long run.
You can thank Clinton for helping with that. The folly of signing NAFTA into
law will continue to follow us for years to come.
Oh right. Everything bad that ever happened is Clinton's fault. Give
it a rest already.
Yes, NAFTA has turned out (to nobody's surprise) to be good for
corporations and bad for workers. Duh! I don't see Bush criticizing
it. In fact it seems to me the Repubs just recently pushed through
another very similar treaty with Central America.
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| User: "" |
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27 Aug 2005 09:53:26 AM |
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:18:42 -0700, blazing laser <none> wrote:
Oh right. Everything bad that ever happened is Clinton's fault. Give
it a rest already.
Little did we know the "giant sucking sound" we heard was Lewinski
giving Clinton head instead of Perot's warning. I guess the Clinton
spin machine did a great job.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
27 Aug 2005 08:55:53 AM |
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blazing laser wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
<GOUSAUSA11@USAUSA#1.orgq> wrote:
MosNews
Russians, whose lives are shorter and poorer than they were under communism,
have more abortions than births to avoid the costs of raising children,
Bloomberg.com reported Tuesday quoting the country's highest-ranking
obstetrician.
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more" abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago.
Your source?
Rising gas prices and the resulting price
inflation will make them poorer in the short run.
Is that why people are still traveling and going to the beaches?
Bush's deficits and
the disappearance of manufacturing in the US will make them poorer in
the long run.
I agree that the deficits will have to be paid, but this country has
and always will carry a deficit.
This the real agenda of the GOP--concentration of wealth.
Oh, now we are getting at "YOUR" real agenda.
It's been
going on for about 30 years now but it's speeding up under GW. This
will lead to fewer people wanting to have kids, or being able to have
kids. And that will lead to more abortions.
Do you really believe that?
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| User: "someone" |
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| Title: Re: More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
26 Aug 2005 03:05:54 PM |
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blazing laser wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them
under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more" abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago.
That would explain why houses are bought so quickly here and in other
places that the average listing lasts about a week and a half. Five
years ago, the average time it took to sell was counted in months.
Rising gas prices
In terms of real dollars, gas hasn't risen to the level experienced in
the early 80's after Carter got done with the economy.
and the resulting price
inflation will make them poorer in the short run. Bush's deficits and
the disappearance of manufacturing in the US will make them poorer in
the long run.
Take a class in economics.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
27 Aug 2005 08:51:49 AM |
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"someone" <someone462000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1125086754.648929.103790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
blazing laser wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them
under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more"
abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago.
That would explain why houses are bought so quickly here and in other
places that the average listing lasts about a week and a half.
Shall we quote you on that?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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27 Aug 2005 10:43:50 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"someone" <someone462000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1125086754.648929.103790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
blazing laser wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them
under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more"
abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago.
That would explain why houses are bought so quickly here and in other
places that the average listing lasts about a week and a half.
Shall we quote you on that?
I'd rather quote you on this:
(from August 26 - odd chevrons are from pr0r3p)
-----start-----
No, I think YOU are a joke, and that was a direct jab at your
stupidity.
Which did not land.
How do you hit that which is not there?
I said I was aiming at you stupidity, not your brain.
You missed. You can not hit a non-existent thing.
------end------
Your brain is as close to non-existence as it can get without actually being
gone, indeed.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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27 Aug 2005 01:15:49 AM |
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someone <someone462000@yahoo.com> wrote:
blazing laser wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them
under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more" abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago.
That would explain why houses are bought so quickly here and in other
places that the average listing lasts about a week and a half. Five
years ago, the average time it took to sell was counted in months.
While it's obvious that you think that there's a connection, it's not
obvious why you think that there is a connection.
Wages are flat or down over the past five years.
Rising gas prices
In terms of real dollars, gas hasn't risen to the level experienced in
the early 80's after Carter got done with the economy.
Carter and the Republican congress.
and the resulting price
inflation will make them poorer in the short run. Bush's deficits and
the disappearance of manufacturing in the US will make them poorer in
the long run.
Take a class in economics.
Come up with an intelligent response. Pretending that you know
something about economics doesn't qualify.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: More Abortions Than Births in Russia |
27 Aug 2005 09:02:05 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
someone <someone462000@yahoo.com> wrote:
blazing laser wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them
under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more" abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago.
That would explain why houses are bought so quickly here and in other
places that the average listing lasts about a week and a half. Five
years ago, the average time it took to sell was counted in months.
While it's obvious that you think that there's a connection, it's not
obvious why you think that there is a connection.
Wages are flat or down over the past five years.
Rising gas prices
In terms of real dollars, gas hasn't risen to the level experienced in
the early 80's after Carter got done with the economy.
Carter and the Republican congress.
Oh now it's the "congress" ROFL
When people remind ***** Fischer, that the prosperity we supposably
enjoyed during the Clinton years that we had a "republican"
congress..***** Fischer ignores that.
and the resulting price
inflation will make them poorer in the short run. Bush's deficits and
the disappearance of manufacturing in the US will make them poorer in
the long run.
Take a class in economics.
Come up with an intelligent response. Pretending that you know
something about economics doesn't qualify.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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27 Aug 2005 10:56:49 AM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
someone <someone462000@yahoo.com> wrote:
blazing laser wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them
under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more" abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago.
That would explain why houses are bought so quickly here and in other
places that the average listing lasts about a week and a half. Five
years ago, the average time it took to sell was counted in months.
While it's obvious that you think that there's a connection, it's not
obvious why you think that there is a connection.
Wages are flat or down over the past five years.
Rising gas prices
In terms of real dollars, gas hasn't risen to the level experienced in
the early 80's after Carter got done with the economy.
Carter and the Republican congress.
Oh now it's the "congress" ROFL
Are you going to try and deny it, *****?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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27 Aug 2005 08:58:48 AM |
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someone wrote:
blazing laser wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:25:14 -0500, "Liberals HATE America!!.,"
About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them
under the
age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice
president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. "Many more" abortions
weren't reported.
If that really bothers you, then you should realize that this happens
because people are so poor over there and their future is grim.
Now look around -here-. 99% of people in the US are poorer than they
were a few years ago.
That would explain why houses are bought so quickly here and in other
places that the average listing lasts about a week and a half. Five
years ago, the average time it took to sell was counted in months.
Hell, homes are being built so fast here in Delaware we are having a
problem now with schools, hospitals, emergency services, department of
transportation...being able to keep up with the growth.
Rising gas prices
In terms of real dollars, gas hasn't risen to the level experienced in
the early 80's after Carter got done with the economy.
I read an article a few weeks ago, I am not sure how they worked this
out but they compared what we pay for gas now and the cost of living,
the average wage a person earns, and what we paid in the 80's and the
article was saying that we were paying more in the 80's...it would be
equivelant to paying over $3.00 per gallon today.
People are making more money, the rising cost of gas doesn't really
seem to be slowing anyone down.
and the resulting price
inflation will make them poorer in the short run. Bush's deficits and
the disappearance of manufacturing in the US will make them poorer in
the long run.
Take a class in economics.
It would help.
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