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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Ray Fischer"
Date: 22 Sep 2006 09:40:08 PM
Object: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11
Because of Bush's invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, more Americans
have died than were killed on 9/11. And that doesn't even count the
100,000+ Iraqi's and Afghanis killed.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060923/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/911_times_two
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 10:44:28 AM
BOB wrote:

yerfriendcf@hotmail.com wrote in news:1159365639.499830.162870

Since we're all claiming to be in a non-evasive mood here Bob,
maybe you can explain how members of Clinton's own party
voted for his impeachment;


What's to explain, jerkoff?

How members of Clinton's own party voted for impeachment. Simple
enough?

how that bipartisan group of noted
Presidential historians voted Clinton DEAD LAST in moral
authority, even below your favorite target Nixon....


Where's your evidence, jerkoff?

This list was was all over the place some time back. No, I'm not gonna
look it up for you, lazyass democrap.

(BTW, doofusass, you don't even know what a "neocon" is.)

You.

Get a clue *****-for-brains. Take a look at my sig and tell me I'm a
neocon.
<I can just see Bob staring stupidly at my sig, eyes glazed, trying to
understand...:)>
--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?
The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great
Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 28 Sep 2006 12:28:49 AM
<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:

BOB wrote:

yerfriendcf@hotmail.com wrote in news:1159365639.499830.162870

Since we're all claiming to be in a non-evasive mood here Bob,
maybe you can explain how members of Clinton's own party
voted for his impeachment;


What's to explain, jerkoff?


How members of Clinton's own party voted for impeachment.

Democrats voting guilty on article I (Perjury): 0
Democrats voting guilty on article II (Obstruction): 0
Number of House Democrats voting to impeach: 5
Number voting against impeachment: 201
Nothing lies like a neocon liar.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 28 Sep 2006 06:15:49 AM
In article <451b5d91$0$34543$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:

BOB wrote:

yerfriendcf@hotmail.com wrote in news:1159365639.499830.162870


Since we're all claiming to be in a non-evasive mood here Bob,
maybe you can explain how members of Clinton's own party
voted for his impeachment;


What's to explain, jerkoff?


How members of Clinton's own party voted for impeachment.


Democrats voting guilty on article I (Perjury): 0
Democrats voting guilty on article II (Obstruction): 0

Number of House Democrats voting to impeach: 5
Number voting against impeachment: 201

Nothing lies like a neocon liar.

isn't "neocon liar" redundant?
.


User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 11:12:36 AM
wrote in news:1159371867.948735.154180
@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

wrote in news:1159365639.499830.162870


Since we're all claiming to be in a non-evasive mood here Bob,
maybe you can explain how members of Clinton's own party
voted for his impeachment;


What's to explain, jerkoff?


How members of Clinton's own party voted for impeachment. Simple
enough?

No one here is denying it so, again, what's to explain, yerkoff?

how that bipartisan group of noted
Presidential historians voted Clinton DEAD LAST in moral
authority, even below your favorite target Nixon....


Where's your evidence, jerkoff?


This list was was all over the place some time back. No, I'm not gonna
look it up for you, lazyass democrap.

Just as I thought, yerkoff, no evidence.

(BTW, doofusass, you don't even know what a "neocon" is.)

You.


Get a clue *****-for-brains. Take a look at my sig and tell me I'm a
neocon.

You are a neocon wingnut, yerkoff.

<I can just see Bob staring stupidly at my sig, eyes glazed, trying to
understand...:)>

And you are a moron to boot. (But that's being redundant.)

--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?



The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great



Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.


-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

.


User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 08:53:26 AM
Mark D J. wrote:


Excellent response: sub-moral, dishonest, and evasive. Thanks for outing
yourself: until you posted it, reasonable people might have thought you had
some substance to you.

Come on Mark, do you really expect even a semblance of substance from
a bonafide Clinton-loving democrap like ol' Bob here? I've got lots of
experience
with these fetid weasels. He is right out of the democrap crapper, a
very generic
example. Their standard tack is to try to claim how clean Clinton is
because
of lack of convictions. But if there had been, they would simply
claim
vast righwing conspiracy, as they do with impeachment. They
are as crazy as shithouse rats. And of course never able to explain
how members of his own party voted for his impeachment.
If they'd been around in the 1930s, they'd be telling us that Al Capone
was a furniture salesman, and has comitted no crimes since he's
never been to jail. Always amusing they are.
--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?
The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great
Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 28 Sep 2006 12:30:12 AM
<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:


Mark D J. wrote:


Excellent response: sub-moral, dishonest, and evasive. Thanks for outing
yourself: until you posted it, reasonable people might have thought you had
some substance to you.


Come on Mark, do you really expect even a semblance of substance from
a bonafide Clinton-loving democrap like ol' Bob here? I've got lots of

Fascists hate liberals. That's why they lie about Clinton.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 29 Sep 2006 09:59:23 AM
Ray Fischer wrote:

<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:


Mark D J. wrote:


Excellent response: sub-moral, dishonest, and evasive. Thanks for outing
yourself: until you posted it, reasonable people might have thought you had
some substance to you.


Come on Mark, do you really expect even a semblance of substance from
a bonafide Clinton-loving democrap like ol' Bob here? I've got lots of


Fascists hate liberals. That's why they lie about Clinton.

You're the one who lies about Clinton. That has to mean you're
no less a scurvy little pervert fondler than he was. Of course he
was much more than just a fondler; maybe you can work your way
up to his level some day grungeboy. First, maybe you could
learn the defintion of NeoCon. That way, you might come across
as only a scurvy little pervert fondler, instead of a *stupid* little
scurvy pervert fondler and rapo wannabe. :)
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 29 Sep 2006 08:31:01 PM
<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:


Ray Fischer wrote:

<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:


Mark D J. wrote:


Excellent response: sub-moral, dishonest, and evasive. Thanks for outing
yourself: until you posted it, reasonable people might have thought you had
some substance to you.


Come on Mark, do you really expect even a semblance of substance from
a bonafide Clinton-loving democrap like ol' Bob here? I've got lots of


Fascists hate liberals. That's why they lie about Clinton.


You're the one who lies about Clinton.

"I know you are but what am I?"
Grow up, fascist pervert.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 29 Sep 2006 10:09:54 AM
wrote in
news:1159541963.433245.31490@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


Ray Fischer wrote:

<

> wrote:


Mark D J. wrote:


Excellent response: sub-moral, dishonest, and evasive. Thanks for
outing yourself: until you posted it, reasonable people might have
thought you had some substance to you.


Come on Mark, do you really expect even a semblance of substance
from a bonafide Clinton-loving democrap like ol' Bob here? I've got
lots of


Fascists hate liberals. That's why they lie about Clinton.


You're the one who lies about Clinton. That has to mean you're
no less a scurvy little pervert fondler than he was. Of course he
was much more than just a fondler; maybe you can work your way
up to his level some day grungeboy. First, maybe you could
learn the defintion of NeoCon. That way, you might come across
as only a scurvy little pervert fondler, instead of a *stupid* little
scurvy pervert fondler and rapo wannabe. :)

Sounds like you just described a neocon, yerkoff.

-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

.
User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 29 Sep 2006 10:23:11 AM
BOB wrote:

yerfriendcf@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1159541963.433245.31490@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


Ray Fischer wrote:

<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:


Mark D J. wrote:


Excellent response: sub-moral, dishonest, and evasive. Thanks for
outing yourself: until you posted it, reasonable people might have
thought you had some substance to you.


Come on Mark, do you really expect even a semblance of substance
from a bonafide Clinton-loving democrap like ol' Bob here? I've got
lots of


Fascists hate liberals. That's why they lie about Clinton.


You're the one who lies about Clinton. That has to mean you're
no less a scurvy little pervert fondler than he was. Of course he
was much more than just a fondler; maybe you can work your way
up to his level some day grungeboy. First, maybe you could
learn the defintion of NeoCon. That way, you might come across
as only a scurvy little pervert fondler, instead of a *stupid* little
scurvy pervert fondler and rapo wannabe. :)

Sounds like you just described a neocon, yerkoff.

Hey, I agree. I hate 'em as much as I hate crotch-sniffing
Clinton lovers.
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 29 Sep 2006 10:41:40 AM
wrote in news:1159543391.454649.167470
@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

wrote in
news:1159541963.433245.31490@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


Ray Fischer wrote:

<

> wrote:


Mark D J. wrote:


Excellent response: sub-moral, dishonest, and evasive. Thanks

for

outing yourself: until you posted it, reasonable people might

have

thought you had some substance to you.


Come on Mark, do you really expect even a semblance of substance
from a bonafide Clinton-loving democrap like ol' Bob here? I've

got

lots of


Fascists hate liberals. That's why they lie about Clinton.


You're the one who lies about Clinton. That has to mean you're
no less a scurvy little pervert fondler than he was. Of course he
was much more than just a fondler; maybe you can work your way
up to his level some day grungeboy. First, maybe you could
learn the defintion of NeoCon. That way, you might come across
as only a scurvy little pervert fondler, instead of a *stupid*

little

scurvy pervert fondler and rapo wannabe. :)

Sounds like you just described a neocon, yerkoff.


Hey, I agree. I hate 'em as much as I hate crotch-sniffing
Clinton lovers.

Now it sounds like you are describing yourself, yerkoff.

-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

.





User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 10:18:52 AM
wrote in
news:1159365205.868060.107500@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


Mark D J. wrote:


Excellent response: sub-moral, dishonest, and evasive. Thanks for
outing yourself: until you posted it, reasonable people might have
thought you had some substance to you.


Come on Mark, do you really expect even a semblance of substance from
a bonafide Clinton-loving democrap like ol' Bob here?

Looks like you are tho one without any substance, yerkoff. You failed to
provide any facts to back up your false accusations about any Clinton
"crimes" Loser.

I've got lots
of experience
with these fetid weasels.

Sexual fantasies, yerkoff?

He is right out of the democrap crapper, a
very generic
example.

And I'll wager you have lots of experience fishing around in crappers,
yerkoff.

Their standard tack is to try to claim how clean Clinton is
because
of lack of convictions.

How about some examples of Clinton's "lack of convictions" with some
evidence to support your phony claims, yerkoff?

t if there had been, they would simply
claim
vast righwing conspiracy, as they do with impeachment.

Prove it wasn't, yerkoff.

ey
are as crazy as shithouse rats. And of course never able to explain
how members of his own party voted for his impeachment.

What's to explain, yerkoff?

If they'd been around in the 1930s, they'd be telling us that Al
Capone was a furniture salesman, and has comitted no crimes since he's
never been to jail. Always amusing they are.

Capone was in jail, idiot. Funny how you are always wrong, yerkoff.

--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign
policy?



The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the
Great



Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.


-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

.
User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 11:00:23 AM
BOB wrote:

Capone was in jail, idiot. Funny how you are always wrong, yerkoff.

He was convicted of only tax evasion, which perfectly illustrates my
point, which I have repeated numerous times, and which you still
have missed. Capone, like Clinton, was a good criminal, and was
able to weasel his way around conviction and punishment for most
of his life. But he died with a brain turned to swiss cheese by the
ravages of syphillis; which also fits well with any ideas of a fitting
end for Clinton, your hero and God. Still LOL!
--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?
The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great
Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 28 Sep 2006 12:30:37 AM
<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:


BOB wrote:

Capone was in jail, idiot. Funny how you are always wrong, yerkoff.


He was convicted of only tax evasion, which perfectly illustrates my
point, which I have repeated numerous times, and which you still
have missed. Capone, like Clinton, was a good criminal,

Just like you're a "good" criminal.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 11:15:08 AM
wrote in news:1159372823.064440.33350
@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

Capone was in jail, idiot. Funny how you are always wrong, yerkoff.


He was convicted of only tax evasion, which perfectly illustrates my
point, which I have repeated numerous times, and which you still
have missed. Capone, like Clinton, was a good criminal, and was
able to weasel his way around conviction and punishment for most
of his life. But he died with a brain turned to swiss cheese by the
ravages of syphillis; which also fits well with any ideas of a fitting
end for Clinton, your hero and God. Still LOL!

You conveniently cut out the part where you claimed that Capone was never
in jail, yerkoff. You are just a typical neocon wingnut trying to deny
his own obvious stupidity.

--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?



The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great



Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.


-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

.
User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 11:28:12 AM
BOB wrote:

You conveniently cut out the part where you claimed that Capone was never
in jail, yerkoff.

Never said he was never in jail in his life. But all that time he was
virtually
the top crime boss in America (before his sentence for tax evasion),
he was told (by his followers and pals) to be a furniture salesman
who did good things for the community. And he probably had dumbass,
grungy stooges like you everywhere who'd defend him.
Tell us this, what did dirtbag Clinton ever do for you, scumbag?
Of course, you may have some perverted idea that going through life
looking stupid is somehow fun. Hey, whatever turns you on.
I guess going through women's dirty laundry gets old even for you.
Gotta go. Glad I'm not you!
--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?
The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great
Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 12:26:23 PM
wrote in
news:1159374492.708634.101090@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

You conveniently cut out the part where you claimed that Capone was
never in jail, yerkoff.


Never said he was never in jail in his life.

Liar.
Here is your own statement, which you conveniently cut out:
"If they'd been around in the 1930s, they'd be telling us that Al Capone
was a furniture salesman, and has comitted no crimes since he's never been
to jail."
"since he's nver been to jail" is what you said, yerkoff. You cannot deny
it.

But all that time he was
virtually
the top crime boss in America (before his sentence for tax evasion),
he was told (by his followers and pals) to be a furniture salesman
who did good things for the community. And he probably had dumbass,
grungy stooges like you everywhere who'd defend him.

Non-sequitur.
Idiot.

Tell us this, what did dirtbag Clinton ever do for you, scumbag?

There is no denying that the U.S. was better off under the Clinton years
than it is now under the Bush administration.

Of course, you may have some perverted idea that going through life
looking stupid is somehow fun.

You of all people should know.

Hey, whatever turns you on.

Beautiful women and good food.

I guess going through women's dirty laundry gets old even for you.

Then why do you still do it?

Gotta go.

Hurry and eat before they flush it.

Glad I'm not you!

Me too, yerkoff.


--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign
policy?



The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the
Great



Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.


-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

.
User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 01:19:00 PM
BOB wrote:


"If they'd been around in the 1930s, they'd be telling us that Al Capone
was a furniture salesman, and has comitted no crimes since he's never been
to jail."

"since he's nver been to jail" is what you said, yerkoff. You cannot deny
it.

You pathetic grubworm. Are you so desperate that you key in on this?
Apparently so. The "he's" that I used was in the context of what
his defenders would be saying at *that* time, before he was convicted
and went to jail. They would've said: "he's no criminal since
he's never been to jail." You're a rather sad nutsack.

Tell us this, what did dirtbag Clinton ever do for you, scumbag?

There is no denying that the U.S. was better off under the Clinton years
than it is now under the Bush administration.

Tell us what Clinton ever did for you.

Beautiful women and good food.

Translation: Jacking off to my monitor with a bag of pork skins
nearby.
Tell me I ain't right.

Hurry and eat before they flush it.

I was going out for a run, fatboy. I've got a flight to New York
later today
..--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?
The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great
Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 01:33:39 PM
wrote in
news:1159381140.482611.199240@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:


"If they'd been around in the 1930s, they'd be telling us that Al
Capone was a furniture salesman, and has comitted no crimes since
he's never been to jail."

"since he's nver been to jail" is what you said, yerkoff. You cannot
deny it.


You pathetic grubworm. Are you so desperate that you key in on this?

Yep, it shows what a lying fool you are, yerkoff.

Apparently so. The "he's" that I used was in the context of what
his defenders would be saying at *that* time, before he was convicted
and went to jail. They would've said: "he's no criminal since
he's never been to jail."

But that's not what _you_ said, yerkoff. Like all typical boolicking
Bush lapdogs and goose-stepping neocon wingnuts, you can't just admit
that you lied.

You're a rather sad nutsack.

But at least I'm not a lying bootlicker like you, yerkoff.

Tell us this, what did dirtbag Clinton ever do for you, scumbag?


There is no denying that the U.S. was better off under the Clinton
years than it is now under the Bush administration.


Tell us what Clinton ever did for you.

I did, yerkoff. Can't you read?

Beautiful women and good food.


Translation: Jacking off to my monitor with a bag of pork skins
nearby.

You must look kind of funny doing that in front of your monitor, yerkoff.

Tell me I ain't right.

You ain't right, yerkoff.

Hurry and eat before they flush it.


I was going out for a run, fatboy. I've got a flight to New York
later today

Then bag it and take it with you to eat on the plane, yerkoff.

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THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign
policy?



The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the
Great



Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.


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Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
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"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 25 Sep 2006 10:44:15 PM
Mark D J. <Mark D J.@woyrk.com> wrote:

"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9848E06A9B669SD@70.169.32.36...

buddwicker@earthlink.net wrote in
news:1159159491.016824.314890@d34g2000cwd


It has been duly noted that you failed to name any crimes that you claim
Clinton committed, buttfloss.


Yes. And it was *such an easy question*, too!

Answer: bombing the Sudanese al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in 1998, with the
consequent loss of thousands of lives.

"Thousands"?!?
You're full of *****. The numbr of people killed was 1 (one).
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 26 Sep 2006 04:48:27 AM
Mark D J. wrote:
xx> Answer: bombing the Sudanese al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in 1998,
with the

consequent loss of thousands of lives.

.....

it was just another act of violence by
just another American president. So it doesn't get so much as
*remembered* -- not even by *the people who claim to hate Clinton*. Because,
you see, much as these people 'hate Clinton', the fact is that *they love
their country's violence even more*...

M.

You might have something there.
I have the feeling that a lot of people don't care why the war. They
just think war is cool.
.
User: "Mark D J. Mark D"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 26 Sep 2006 06:51:52 AM
<frisbieinstein@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159264107.393189.235460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Mark D J. wrote:
xx> Answer: bombing the Sudanese al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in 1998,
with the

consequent loss of thousands of lives.

....

it was just another act of violence by
just another American president. So it doesn't get so much as
*remembered* -- not even by *the people who claim to hate Clinton*.
Because,
you see, much as these people 'hate Clinton', the fact is that *they love
their country's violence even more*...

M.


You might have something there.

Kind of you. Thanks.


I have the feeling that a lot of people don't care why the war. They
just think war is cool.

War makes everything simple for them. Until they have to face up to the fact
that they've lost again...!
M.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 25 Sep 2006 09:26:36 AM
BOB wrote:

It has been duly noted that you failed to name any crimes that you claim
Clinton committed, buttfloss.

Al Capone was only convicted & incarcerated for tax evasion, and
many lesser mobsters of the 20th century lived their entire lives with
no jail time whatever when they lived up to their earlobes in every
criminal activity under the sun, including countless murders.
O.J. walked free too, so in the eyes of the law, he is officially
innocent.
Was there some point to your comment?
But there was that pesky impeachment....and the scores of convictions
of his cronies and associates...and:
I Will Have The Most Ethical Administration Ever.
The First Elected President To Be Impeached
The First President To Have To Cut A Deal Days Before He Left Office To
Avoid Being Indicted
This Is What "The People" Want
What Is The Meaning Of "Is"
The Era Of Big Government Is Over!!
I Must Get Back To The People's Work
I Can Balance The Budget In 5 Years, 10 Year, 15 Years
First President to be disbarred (for 5 years) while in office
..
..
..
--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?
The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great
Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
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----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 25 Sep 2006 09:02:59 PM
wrote in news:1159194396.060655.46140
@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

It has been duly noted that you failed to name any crimes that you

claim

Clinton committed, buttfloss.


Al Capone was only convicted & incarcerated for tax evasion, and
many lesser mobsters of the 20th century lived their entire lives with
no jail time whatever when they lived up to their earlobes in every
criminal activity under the sun, including countless murders.

O.J. walked free too, so in the eyes of the law, he is officially
innocent.

Was there some point to your comment?

Not too difficult for the rational ng reader to figure out. My point was
to point out that the poster failed to answer Ray's question and name any
supposed "crimes" that they claim Clinton committed. Why don't you give
it a try?

But there was that pesky impeachment....and the scores of convictions
of his cronies and associates...and:

Looks like you also fail to name any of the supposed "crimes" that
Clinton committed. He was never convicted of any crimes during the
impeachment proceedings.

I Will Have The Most Ethical Administration Ever.

Sound like you are quoting idiot Bush here.

The First Elected President To Be Impeached

"Impeached" isn't "convicted".

The First President To Have To Cut A Deal Days Before He Left Office To
Avoid Being Indicted

Exactly what "deal" did he "cut" and with whom did he "cut" the supposed
"deal"? Avoid being indicted for what? Be more specific.

This Is What "The People" Want

What do "The People" want"?

What Is The Meaning Of "Is"

Why don't you tell us.

The Era Of Big Government Is Over!!

Have you examied the Bush administration objectively?

I Must Get Back To The People's Work

What is "The Peoples Work", exactly?

I Can Balance The Budget In 5 Years, 10 Year, 15 Years

Clinton not only balanced the budget but he also created a huge surplus
that Bush wasted away in his first year in office.

First President to be disbarred (for 5 years) while in office
.

So? You still haven't named any crimes Clinton supposedly committed.

.
.

--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?



The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great



Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.


-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

.
User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 08:41:51 AM
BOB wrote:

Not too difficult for the rational ng reader to figure out. My point was
to point out that the poster failed to answer Ray's question and name any
supposed "crimes" that they claim Clinton committed. Why don't you give
it a try?

Clinton crimes? Let's see, rape and other sexual assaults, lying
under
oath, and people associated with Clinton had the bad habit of dying
sometimes. There are an absolute myriad of crimes Clinton committed.
Common knowledge. But he is your hero and God. LOL.
Here's a good site for you to peruse through. Jog that reefer-hazed
memory a little.
Re-read my post and try again.
--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?
The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great
Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 10:11:30 AM
wrote in
news:1159364511.646440.130220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

Not too difficult for the rational ng reader to figure out. My point
was to point out that the poster failed to answer Ray's question and
name any supposed "crimes" that they claim Clinton committed. Why
don't you give it a try?


Clinton crimes? Let's see, rape and other sexual assaults, lying
under
oath, and people associated with Clinton had the bad habit of dying
sometimes.
There are an absolute myriad of crimes Clinton committed.
Common knowledge. But he is your hero and God. LOL.

Just as I thought, yerkoff, you are just another bootlicking Bush lapdog
and ncocon wingnut liar with absolutely no facts to back up your false
accusations about Clinton. (Yawn)

Here's a good site for you to peruse through. Jog that reefer-hazed
memory a little.

Re-read my post and try again.

--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign
policy?



The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the
Great



Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.


-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

.
User: ""

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 10:39:53 AM
BOB wrote:

yerfriendcf@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1159364511.646440.130220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

Not too difficult for the rational ng reader to figure out. My point
was to point out that the poster failed to answer Ray's question and
name any supposed "crimes" that they claim Clinton committed. Why
don't you give it a try?


Clinton crimes? Let's see, rape and other sexual assaults, lying
under
oath, and people associated with Clinton had the bad habit of dying
sometimes.
There are an absolute myriad of crimes Clinton committed.
Common knowledge. But he is your hero and God. LOL.

Just as I thought, yerkoff, you are just another bootlicking Bush lapdog
and ncocon wingnut liar with absolutely no facts to back up your false
accusations about Clinton.

Nothing false about them. LOL, and you beautifully prove what an
illiterate
reetard you are with your little "description" of me above. You
apparently
have a little work to do on reading comprehension after what I've said
about
Bush to think I'm any kind of fan of his. That's just your grungy
little
strawman. What kind of neocon would have a sig like mine, or do you
not have a clue?
I'd like to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head
that
far up a donkey's *****.
--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?
The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great
Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.
-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
--
Cliff
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 10:39:01 PM
<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:


BOB wrote:

yerfriendcf@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1159364511.646440.130220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

Not too difficult for the rational ng reader to figure out. My point
was to point out that the poster failed to answer Ray's question and
name any supposed "crimes" that they claim Clinton committed. Why
don't you give it a try?


Clinton crimes? Let's see, rape and other sexual assaults, lying
under
oath, and people associated with Clinton had the bad habit of dying
sometimes.
There are an absolute myriad of crimes Clinton committed.
Common knowledge. But he is your hero and God. LOL.

Just as I thought, yerkoff, you are just another bootlicking Bush lapdog
and ncocon wingnut liar with absolutely no facts to back up your false
accusations about Clinton.


Nothing false about them.

You right-wing idiots are nothing if not stupid. You believe any
whacko lie you're fed.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "BOB"

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 27 Sep 2006 11:07:48 AM
wrote in news:1159371593.653137.249230
@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

wrote in
news:1159364511.646440.130220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


BOB wrote:

Not too difficult for the rational ng reader to figure out. My

point

was to point out that the poster failed to answer Ray's question

and

name any supposed "crimes" that they claim Clinton committed. Why
don't you give it a try?


Clinton crimes? Let's see, rape and other sexual assaults, lying
under
oath, and people associated with Clinton had the bad habit of dying
sometimes.
There are an absolute myriad of crimes Clinton committed.
Common knowledge. But he is your hero and God. LOL.

Just as I thought, yerkoff, you are just another bootlicking Bush

lapdog

and ncocon wingnut liar with absolutely no facts to back up your false
accusations about Clinton.


Nothing false about them.

Then where is your evidence, yerkoff?>

LOL, and you beautifully prove what an
illiterate
reetard you are with your little "description" of me above.

If the shoe (description) fits...

You
apparently
have a little work to do on reading comprehension after what I've said
about
Bush to think I'm any kind of fan of his.

I didn't say you were a "fan" of Bush. I said that "you are just another
bootlicking Bush lapdog and ncocon wingnut liar". Looks like you are the
one with a reading comprehension problem, yerkoff.

That's just your grungy
little
strawman.

You mean your "little strawman", don't you jerkoff?

What kind of neocon would have a sig like mine, or do you
not have a clue?

A neocon wingnut moron?

I'd like to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head
that
far up a donkey's *****.

You don't seem to have a problem putting your head up your own behind,
jerkoff.

--------
THE ISRAEL LOBBY: Does it have too much influence on US foreign policy?



The London Review will be hosting a debate on 28 September in the Great



Hall, Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, Cooper
Square, New York. Go to the link in my sig to reserve tickets.


-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

.






User: "Mike V."

Title: Re: More Americans dead because of Bush than because of 9/11 29 Sep 2006 10:35:11 AM
wrote:

wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

<yerfriendcf@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:


Because of Bush's invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, more Americans
have died than were killed on 9/11. And that doesn't even count the
100,000+ Iraqi's and Afghanis killed.


Or the Lebanese (including lots of innocent children) recently
slaughtered
by our little friend/controller Israel.

I suspect you speak from a long history of being a Bush-hater, but
you're absolutely right.


The fanaticism of the American right-wing is neatly encapsulated by
the phrase "Bush hater".


I'm not a right-winger, but a moderate. I'm also open-minded.


So am I, and I manage not to use GOP propaganda like "Bush hater".

All of the corruption and incompetance of
Bush and his cronies is dismissed as being of no consequence by saying
instead that it's just a personal animosity towards Bush.


Bush and his cronies have proven themselves to be criminals, but so
are the Clintons.


More right-wing propaganda.

Would you ever admit that?


Name some crimes.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

What makes a "right-winger"? One who isn't duped into being a
"left-winger". What makes a right-winger seem so extreme to the
left-winger? It is because the left-winger is so far to the socialist
left that anything oppossing his goofy ideas seems to be extremely
remote. If a left-fielder plays ball right against the left wall even
center field could look like right field, thus causing the right field
to seem even more extreme. Of course, you know that but don't have the
courage to admit it. You are forced by your own pride / fear to play
ball with those who are PAID to brainwash poor naive souls. Go ahead,
believe the lies and pass them on, but some day you and those you love
will pay a terrible price when the dogs you're running with turn to
rend you.

I certainly hope that English is not your first language.
Trying to follow what the ***** you are saying is like trying to figure
out who is more insane, Bush, Cheney, Rummy or Cunti.
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