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sunny <sunnydays107_ca@yahoo.ca> wrote:

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The Bush Global Gag Rule, which supporters call
"Mexico
City
Policy,"
restricts foreign non-governmental organizations
(NGOs)
that
receive
U.S. family planning assistance from advocating for
or
providing
abortion-related services, even with their own,
non-U.S.
resources.

Bush does not believe in liberty. He believes in
forcing
people
do
do
what he thinks is best for them.

Be a little more specific Ray. What liberty are you
talking
about?
There
is
an infinite number of liberties out there that you can
claim.

In regard to your last sentence though, you surely
cannot
relate
that
to
this article. He isn't making anyone do anything. I
would
say
that
he
is
giving me a little more liberty because my money is no
longer
being
spent
in
this way. Instead he is wasting my money on a useless
and
futile
war.

Well that is what is important in the world, "your
money."

Sure, why wouldn't it be important to me? It's not the
most
important
thing
in the world, but I wouldn't be able to live where I live
without
it.

And you couldn't live in the society you live in if the
government
didn't use it.

Perhaps, but they don't have to give MY money to third world
countries
for
me to live where and how I live.

What makes you think that?

A better question would be why you think I do need to.

Because you agree to it by living here and paying taxes.

As I said though, the government don't have to use my money for
that
purpose.

No - but in their infinite wisdom, they choose to.

I
definitely like the idea of my being able to spend it
myself
as
opposed
to
the government giving it over to some third world country
that
is a
third
world country because a majority of the people there do
not
care
enough
to
change.

You take home what you are willing to work for. That is
capitalism.

Something most democrats would love to see abolished.

That appears to be you. If you weren't taxed, you would be
paid
less.

I NEVER said I was against taxes. I'm just against the wasting
of
my
tax
dollars in third world countries to prove "relief". Now quit
trying
to
make
it look like I said I was against taxes you moron.

Well you can object all you like. Why you oppose helping other
countries is your issue.

And I will object. I think a majority of the american people would
object
too.

Then they should get together and vote in a President who won't
employ
such policies. (Except, of course, these days the "majority
opinion"
sometimes loses. See Bush.)

They like me would rather see that money helping americans.

Help other countries does help Americans.

Explain it and prove it.

It is pretty obvious.

Good, then you won't have any trouble explaining and proving how us
giving
money to third world countries will help America.

It demonstrates to the world that we are not merely ugly Americans
interested only in ourselves and our own wealth, thereby raising our
status in the world and limiting, to a certain degree, the hate from
other countries. Admittedly Bush has screwed this up, but he has
screwed up everything he touches.

And I say your full of full *****. Prove it.

You want to
give other countries money, give them your own money. Keep your
hand
out
of
my pocket.

The money was never yours in the first place.

Send all of YOUR money that you want, just keep your hands
out
of
my
pockets.

I pay plenty. However, unlike you, I recognize he need for
taxes.

Where did I say I was against taxes you nitwit? I just said I
was
against
wasting it in third world countries and useless wars. You
really
have
to
grasp to try to attack me don't you?

Does it feel like an attack? I wasn't even trying.

You attack me by trying to make it look like I am against taxes.

Nah. I understand that you oppose giving money to those in need.
I
find that ironic, though. This money saves lives and you are
"pro-life," right?

Ever try to put water into a bucket with a hole in it? We are doing
that
very thing in Africa and have been for the last 20 years. The more
water(money) we pour in, the bigger the hole gets. We've tried to
help
them
and they still haven't been able to get up on their feet.

After we bombed Japan in WW2, we also went in and rebuilt it. They
are
doing
great now.

Gernany is doing pretty good now as well even though we kicked
their
*****
in
WW2.

It's time to stop putting money into lost causes. I think Iraq is
one
of
those lost causes. Africa is another.

Then vote Democratic.

And get even more of my money sent out of the country and taken from
my
paycheck? I don't think so.

That is just another lie from the Right Wing. The market does better
under the Democrats and the only way the Republicans avoid raising
taxes is to borrow the money and have you, the taxpayer, pay it back in
the future, with interest - usually under the responsible leadership of
the Democratic party. (And, of course, the Republicans then complain
that the Democrats are raising taxes!) You hoping to die before the
deficit has to be paid back?

People who think taxes are lower under the Republican party also think
they make more money every year when they borrow from the bank or are
forced to work overtime. It is kind of like when Osprey works tons of
overtime to pay his bills because he makes squat, and then claims he
makes a great salary because he counts the overtime!

When you lay it on, you lay it on thick don't you?

I'll let you know when I begin to "lay it on."

You lay it on constantly, always making claims you can't back up, commiting
libel against others.

As everyone has seen, the
economy has been successfully stimulated due to the tax cut. If it wasn't
for this worthless war, we wouldn't have a deficit.

ROFLMAO!!!!!! Keep kidding yourself. That's the great thing about the
Right Wing. They always have an excuse of how would have worked out
the way they claimed if only this or that hadn't gone wrong. The
economy is far from "stimulated."

Too bad statistics don't back up your claim.

Local taxes are skyrocketing and gas is over $3.00 per gallon. But you
got that $300 per year tax break so you figure you are doing well.

Yeah and I just paid a dollar for a snickers bar. I guess its only logical
to blame Bush right?