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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "J Young"
Date: 11 Sep 2006 03:43:23 PM
Object: Morning After' Hangover?
http://www.cwfa.org/articles/11476/CWA/life/index.htm
The law of unintended consequences?
Regulation: The FDA's approval of the "Plan B" contraceptive may become a
classic example of the law of unintended consequences. And why are such
pills treated differently from other medications?
With the curious acquiescence of the Bush administration, which recently
vetoed the attempt to expand federal funding of embryonic stem cell research
on the grounds it felt life begins at conception, the FDA has approved the
"morning after" pill, designed to prevent a fertilized egg from implanting
itself in a womb, for over-the-counter sale to anyone over 18.
We don't suppose it occurred to the FDA, which has no enforcement powers,
that an 18-year-old might buy the pills, also known as Plan B, and pass them
on to younger girls? Any adult male over 18 could walk into a pharmacy, buy
the drug, coax a girl into having sex and then taking the pill, telling her
that everything will be OK.
It is ironic that while we don't want teens to smoke cigarettes, we give
them unrestricted over-the-counter access to the morning-after pill, which -
unknown health effects aside - may encourage them to have more sex, and more
unprotected sex, even as the incidence of sexually transmitted diseases is
rising. In the U.S., sexually active teenagers already face what the Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention calls an "epidemic of STDs."
In Great Britain, the morning-after pill is already available without a
prescription. And in an effort to lower the teen birthrate, Britain has gone
so far as to use public funds to enable women under 20 to walk into local
pharmacies and pick up free doses.
Meanwhile, the London Times reports an epidemic of STDs among British teens,
with skyrocketing diagnoses among the group over a five-year period.
The morning-after pill provides no protection from any of the 25 known STDs,
including HIV, human papilloma virus, chlamydia, herpes, gonorrhea, genital
warts, syphilis and hepatitis B.
All prescription drugs have what is known as a "safe dose." But if the
morning-after pill is available over the counter, there's no limit on how
often or how many may be used. In the U.S., women who take birth control
pills are required to see a physician. So, why would the morning-after pill,
which is many times stronger than regular birth control, be sold on the
shelf next to Tylenol?
Silence greeted the announcement by the FDA in March that two more women
died after taking another birth control pill, mifepristone, also known as
RU-486, bringing to seven the number of women known to have died after
taking this drug.
Had it been Vioxx or any other drug made by those evil, profit-making drug
companies, the outcry would have been deafening.
In December the FDA announced that 607 of what it called "adverse events"
from women who took mifepristone had been reported from September 2000 to
September 2004. A total of 237 cases of hemorrhage were reported, with one
resulting in death, 68 requiring transfusions and 42 characterized as
life-threatening.
One of those "adverse events" was the death in 2003 of 18-year-old Holly
Marie Patterson, who lived in the San Francisco suburb of Livermore. After
discovering she was pregnant, Holly went to a Planned Parenthood clinic to
take the pill and, after following the prescribed procedure for using
RU-486, died when fragments of the fetus left inside caused septic shock.
Despite demonstrable benefits to many, medicines such as Vioxx are routinely
pulled off pharmacy shelves and their makers subjected to colossal lawsuits
if patients suffer adverse side effects through misuse or inherent risks to
a particular user.
Shouldn't public policy in this area also mirror the Hippocratic oath -
first, do no harm?
--
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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User: "John D.Wentzky"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 05:00:24 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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http://www.cwfa.org/articles/11476/CWA/life/index.htm


The law of unintended consequences?







Regulation: The FDA's approval of the "Plan B" contraceptive may become a
classic example of the law of unintended consequences. And why are such
pills treated differently from other medications?

Why worry?
Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having exclusive rights to
the privacy information of women who would get these medications from them?
I don't.
I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry being operated in an
anti-trust manner in the USA.
Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never let
it go back to them.
If women start dying from plan be outlaw it and eliminate abortion on
demand.
I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a dual
class system if we are freed from such in the future.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 05:04:42 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:APOdnYCdSYxZV5jYnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

http://www.cwfa.org/articles/11476/CWA/life/index.htm
The law of unintended consequences?
Regulation: The FDA's approval of the "Plan B" contraceptive may become a
classic example of the law of unintended consequences. And why are such
pills treated differently from other medications?

Why worry?
Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having exclusive rights to
the privacy information of women who would get these medications from them?
I don't.

No one cares what *you* want, since your desires aren't related to reality.

I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry being operated in an
anti-trust manner in the USA.

Keep raping your strawmen.

Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never let
it go back to them. If women start dying from plan be outlaw it and
eliminate abortion on demand.

You'll not live to see that wet dream of yours come true.

I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a dual
class system if we are freed from such in the future.

People are smarter than you...which means you're not going to get your wish.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.
User: "John D.Wentzky"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 05:28:29 PM
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:APOdnYCdSYxZV5jYnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...


http://www.cwfa.org/articles/11476/CWA/life/index.htm


The law of unintended consequences?


Regulation: The FDA's approval of the "Plan B" contraceptive may become
a
classic example of the law of unintended consequences. And why are such
pills treated differently from other medications?


Why worry?
Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having exclusive rights
to
the privacy information of women who would get these medications from
them?
I don't.


No one cares what *you* want,

Another lie from PLH.
Many people do care.
Many people are sick of the overpaid medical oligarchy and incresing health
care costs and rising insurance premiums.
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE CARE about this issue.

since your desires aren't related to reality.

Another attempt at deception on your part to sustain the criminal league in
the USA.

I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry being operated in an
anti-trust manner in the USA.


Keep raping your strawmen.

My man is made of iron, mental inferior.

Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never
let
it go back to them. If women start dying from plan b outlaw it and
eliminate abortion on demand.


You'll not live to see that wet dream of yours come true.

Are you making a prediction there?

I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a dual
class system if we are freed from such in the future.


People are smarter than you...

Name one.

which means you're not going to get your wish.

Do you think I was wishing when I made this post?


--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35

.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 06:09:24 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk3baynjph.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:APOdnYCdSYxZV5jYnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

http://www.cwfa.org/articles/11476/CWA/life/index.htm
The law of unintended consequences?
Regulation: The FDA's approval of the "Plan B" contraceptive may become a
classic example of the law of unintended consequences. And why are such
pills treated differently from other medications?

Why worry? Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having
exclusive rights to the privacy information of women who would get these
medications from them? I don't.

No one cares what *you* want,

Another lie from PLH.

Another observation that you refuse to deal with.

Many people do care. Many people are sick of the overpaid medical oligarchy
and incresing health care costs and rising insurance premiums. MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE CARE about this issue.

Fortunately, they're sane enough (unlike you) to realize that others' medical
records aren't their business,

since your desires aren't related to reality.

Another attempt at deception on your part to sustain the criminal league in
the USA.

So why aren't you reporting me to the cops, Anderson County Crackpot?

I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry being operated in an
anti-trust manner in the USA.

Keep raping your strawmen.

My man is made of iron, mental inferior.

I guess that's why I've had a website that stays up, unlike yours, where you
couldn't sell a single share of your "company". incomeasap.com has gone down
in history as a singularly futile effort.

Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never let
it go back to them. If women start dying from plan b outlaw it and
eliminate abortion on demand.

You'll not live to see that wet dream of yours come true.

Are you making a prediction there?

No, I'm stating an opinion. You're the one into insinuating that the rest of
us should conform to your delusions, or else bad things will happen to us.

I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a dual
class system if we are freed from such in the future.

People are smarter than you...

Name one.

Any alumnus of Furman besides you, for a start.

which means you're not going to get your wish.

Do you think I was wishing when I made this post?

That's about all you can do. You haven't the authority to do much of anything else.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.
User: "John D.Wentzky"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 07:29:54 PM
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk3baynjph.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:APOdnYCdSYxZV5jYnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com...


http://www.cwfa.org/articles/11476/CWA/life/index.htm


The law of unintended consequences?


Regulation: The FDA's approval of the "Plan B" contraceptive may
become a
classic example of the law of unintended consequences. And why are
such
pills treated differently from other medications?


Why worry? Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having
exclusive rights to the privacy information of women who would get these
medications from them? I don't.


No one cares what *you* want,


Another lie from PLH.


Another observation that you refuse to deal with.

Many people do care. Many people are sick of the overpaid medical
oligarchy
and incresing health care costs and rising insurance premiums. MILLIONS
OF
PEOPLE CARE about this issue.


Fortunately, they're sane enough (unlike you) to realize that others'
medical
records aren't their business,

Medical records?
You sure are being a hypocrite there.
Why do you want to be such a charaltan for the pro-choice secrecy industry?
Why do you think that MARAL and NAF and the AMA and the ABA and Planned
Parenthood and whoever else are qualified to possess this information
without any audit whatsoever performed?
Pro-Choice is doomed in its current state.
It is anti-trust and not performing up to its own stipulations.

since your desires aren't related to reality.


Another attempt at deception on your part to sustain the criminal league
in
the USA.


So why aren't you reporting me to the cops, Anderson County Crackpot?

Which cops?

I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry being operated in an
anti-trust manner in the USA.


Keep raping your strawmen.


My man is made of iron, mental inferior.


I guess that's why I've had a website that stays up, unlike yours, where
you
couldn't sell a single share of your "company". incomeasap.com has gone
down
in history as a singularly futile effort.

Still throwing those peon's disrespectful teenager insults around?

Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never
let
it go back to them. If women start dying from plan b outlaw it and
eliminate abortion on demand.


You'll not live to see that wet dream of yours come true.


Are you making a prediction there?


No, I'm stating an opinion. You're the one into insinuating that the rest
of
us should conform to your delusions, or else bad things will happen to us.

Which delusion is that?

I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a
dual
class system if we are freed from such in the future.


People are smarter than you...


Name one.


Any alumnus of Furman besides you, for a start.

Which would be who for example?
Any alumnus pf Furman includes me.
According to you, I am smarter than myself.

which means you're not going to get your wish.


Do you think I was wishing when I made this post?


That's about all you can do. You haven't the authority to do much of
anything else.

I have more authority than you assert.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35

.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 12 Sep 2006 12:13:16 AM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szkodtm9f17.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
news:szk3baynjph.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

[...]

Why worry? Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having
exclusive rights to the privacy information of women who would get these
medications from them? I don't.

No one cares what *you* want,

Another lie from PLH.

Another observation that you refuse to deal with.

Many people do care. Many people are sick of the overpaid medical
oligarchy and incresing health care costs and rising insurance premiums.
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE CARE about this issue.

Fortunately, they're sane enough (unlike you) to realize that others'
medical records aren't their business,

Medical records?

Yes, medical records. If you really believe what you're blathering, you have
no cause to complain if I request your complete medical history...right?

You sure are being a hypocrite there.

You're the idiot who can't connect the dots.

Why do you want to be such a charaltan for the pro-choice secrecy industry?

I'm not a part of your imagined consporacy.

Why do you think that MARAL and NAF and the AMA and the ABA and Planned
Parenthood and whoever else are qualified to possess this information
without any audit whatsoever performed?
Pro-Choice is doomed in its current state.
It is anti-trust and not performing up to its own stipulations.

You'll get what you've been working towards, eventually: a permanent
residence in a room with rubber walls.

since your desires aren't related to reality.

Another attempt at deception on your part to sustain the criminal league in
the USA.

So why aren't you reporting me to the cops, Anderson County Crackpot?

Which cops?

You're the brain donor who's claiming I'm part of a criminal conspiracy, so
why aren't you reporting me? (Besides your inability to hold a thought for
longer than a Planck time, that is.)

I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry being operated in an
anti-trust manner in the USA.

Keep raping your strawmen.

My man is made of iron, mental inferior.

I guess that's why I've had a website that stays up, unlike yours, where
you couldn't sell a single share of your "company". incomeasap.com has
gone down in history as a singularly futile effort.

Still throwing those peon's disrespectful teenager insults around?

Still denying your failure?

Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never
let it go back to them. If women start dying from plan b outlaw it and
eliminate abortion on demand.

You'll not live to see that wet dream of yours come true.

Are you making a prediction there?

No, I'm stating an opinion. You're the one into insinuating that the rest
of us should conform to your delusions, or else bad things will happen to
us.

Which delusion is that?

That you have any authority over anyone, for a start.

I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a
dual class system if we are freed from such in the future.

People are smarter than you...

Name one.

Any alumnus of Furman besides you, for a start.

Which would be who for example?
Any alumnus pf Furman includes me.

What part of "besides you" are you too drugged to understand, this time?

According to you, I am smarter than myself.

According to literate people, you have no idea of what you're bleating.

which means you're not going to get your wish.

Do you think I was wishing when I made this post?

That's about all you can do. You haven't the authority to do much of
anything else.

I have more authority than you assert.

Is reality that threatening to you?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.





User: "Curt"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 07:53:39 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:nYkNg.59247

Why worry?
Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having exclusive rights

to

the privacy information of women who would get these medications from

them?

I don't.
I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry being operated in an
anti-trust manner in the USA.

Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never

let

it go back to them.
If women start dying from plan be outlaw it and eliminate abortion on
demand.
I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a dual
class system if we are freed from such in the future.

Having a little trouble parsing that one, there.
Curt
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 12 Sep 2006 12:15:35 AM
"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> writes:

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:nYkNg.59247

Why worry? Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having
exclusive rights to the privacy information of women who would get these
medications from them? I don't. I am against the monopolistic abortion
indusry being operated in an anti-trust manner in the USA.
Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never let
it go back to them. If women start dying from plan be outlaw it and
eliminate abortion on demand. I never want this nation going back to the
present day dark ages of a dual class system if we are freed from such in
the future.

Having a little trouble parsing that one, there.

So is he...if not for the fact that he's from South Carolina, I'd be wondering
if English was his first language.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 12 Sep 2006 03:35:29 AM
On 12 Sep 2006 00:15:35 -0500, The Chief Instigator wrote in message
<szkmz95zmvc.fsf@fnord.io.com>:

"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> writes:

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:nYkNg.59247


Why worry? Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having
exclusive rights to the privacy information of women who would get these
medications from them? I don't. I am against the monopolistic abortion
indusry being operated in an anti-trust manner in the USA.


Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never let
it go back to them. If women start dying from plan be outlaw it and
eliminate abortion on demand. I never want this nation going back to the
present day dark ages of a dual class system if we are freed from such in
the future.


Having a little trouble parsing that one, there.


So is he...if not for the fact that he's from South Carolina, I'd be wondering
if English was his first language.

Yes. His written style reminds me of someone without much in the way
of education trying to ape the syntax and vocabulary of a vastly
superior author but without the tools to accomplish the job.
Either that or he's mentally ill in a clinical sense (as opposed to
mentally ill in the Usenet sense).
--
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage. Cine To DVD? http://www.video2cd.co.uk
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User: ""

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 12 Sep 2006 04:07:53 AM
Therion Ware wrote:

On 12 Sep 2006 00:15:35 -0500, The Chief Instigator wrote in message
<szkmz95zmvc.fsf@fnord.io.com>:


"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> writes:

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:nYkNg.59247


Why worry? Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having
exclusive rights to the privacy information of women who would get these
medications from them? I don't. I am against the monopolistic abortion
indusry being operated in an anti-trust manner in the USA.


Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never let
it go back to them. If women start dying from plan be outlaw it and
eliminate abortion on demand. I never want this nation going back to the
present day dark ages of a dual class system if we are freed from such in
the future.


Having a little trouble parsing that one, there.


So is he...if not for the fact that he's from South Carolina, I'd be wondering
if English was his first language.


Yes. His written style reminds me of someone without much in the way
of education trying to ape the syntax and vocabulary of a vastly
superior author but without the tools to accomplish the job.

My mom the archaeologist once called that the "eaten the dictionary"
syndrome. <g>

Either that or he's mentally ill in a clinical sense (as opposed to
mentally ill in the Usenet sense).

Or attended a public school in the United States. "We're number twelve!
We're number twelve!"
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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User: "John D.Wentzky"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 08:12:17 PM
"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:nYkNg.59247

Why worry?
Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having exclusive rights

to

the privacy information of women who would get these medications from

them?

I don't.
I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry being operated in an
anti-trust manner in the USA.

Take the abortion industry away from the secrecy shame freaks and never

let

it go back to them.
If women start dying from plan be outlaw it and eliminate abortion on
demand.
I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a
dual
class system if we are freed from such in the future.


Having a little trouble parsing that one, there.

That is because you are an intellectual wimp.


Curt


.


User: "gatt"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 05:31:53 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:nYkNg.59247$e9.56790@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having exclusive rights
to the privacy information of women who would get these >medications from
them? I don't.

IOW, he wants to be able to rifle through women's medical records against
their will.

I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry

Sounds like you want to open the abortion industry to anybody. Currently
the only people who can legally perform abortions are trained medical
professionals.

I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a dual
class system if we are freed from such in the future.

ROTFL! Meanwhile, Rx Limbaugh's medical issues ought to be his own
business, huh...
-c
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User: "John D.Wentzky"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 05:44:14 PM
"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
news:ttlNg.333$Ka1.170@news01.roc.ny...


"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:nYkNg.59247$e9.56790@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having exclusive rights
to the privacy information of women who would get these >medications from
them? I don't.


IOW, he wants to be able to rifle through women's medical records against
their will.

Not so, liar.
You missed, again.
I am not concerned about going through medical records when there are none
to go through.
Your defense of the current anti-trust abortion monopoly is slammed face
down by my words.

I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry


Sounds like you want to open the abortion industry to anybody.

That is much preferable to the status quo of the unequal protection secrecy
league.

Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are trained
medical professionals.

No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.

I never want this nation going back to the present day dark ages of a
dual class system if we are freed from such in the future.


ROTFL!

There is very little lasting joy in the USA currently for enough of its
people.

Meanwhile, Rx Limbaugh's medical issues ought to be his own business,
huh...

When there are no abortion records there will be no need for reviewing them,
dumbass.

-c

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User: "Curt"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 07:55:31 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having exclusive

rights

to the privacy information of women who would get these >medications

from

them? I don't.


IOW, he wants to be able to rifle through women's medical records

against

their will.


Not so, liar.
You missed, again.
I am not concerned about going through medical records when there are none
to go through.
Your defense of the current anti-trust abortion monopoly is slammed face
down by my words.

I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry


Sounds like you want to open the abortion industry to anybody.


That is much preferable to the status quo of the unequal protection

secrecy

league.

Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are trained
medical professionals.


No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.

It could be, I suppose. But it won't be. There aren't enough of you weenies,
and the ones there are are.. well.. weenies. You can shoot doctors in the
back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but you'll never get the law changed.
You'll just make people hate you more.
Curt
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User: "John D.Wentzky"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 11 Sep 2006 08:11:40 PM
"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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Do you really want doctors and planned parenthood having exclusive

rights

to the privacy information of women who would get these >medications

from

them? I don't.


IOW, he wants to be able to rifle through women's medical records

against

their will.


Not so, liar.
You missed, again.
I am not concerned about going through medical records when there are
none
to go through.
Your defense of the current anti-trust abortion monopoly is slammed face
down by my words.

I am against the monopolistic abortion indusry


Sounds like you want to open the abortion industry to anybody.


That is much preferable to the status quo of the unequal protection

secrecy

league.

Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are trained
medical professionals.


No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.


It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.

Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god damned
abortion ***** and work for society?

There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are.. well..
weenies.

It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.

You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but
you'll never get the law changed.

Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of getting
things changed.

You'll just make people hate you more.

Now you think I care about what people think about me?
LOL!
You are definitely an idiot now.


Curt


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User: "Curt"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 14 Sep 2006 01:29:30 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message

Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are

trained

medical professionals.


No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.


It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.


Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god damned
abortion ***** and work for society?

Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?


There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are.. well..
weenies.


It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.

Have fun trying..


You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but
you'll never get the law changed.


Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of getting
things changed.

Lay off the beer, is my best advice to you..


You'll just make people hate you more.


Now you think I care about what people think about me?
LOL!
You are definitely an idiot now.

Well, if you want them to vote your way, you should worry about what they
think of you.
Curt
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User: "John D.Wentzky"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 14 Sep 2006 02:52:30 PM
"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message


Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are

trained

medical professionals.


No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.


It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.


Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned
abortion ***** and work for society?


Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?

You prefer "Pro-Choice"?


There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are.. well..
weenies.


It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.


Have fun trying..

I do not need to try.
It will happen because it is unnecessary.


You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but
you'll never get the law changed.


Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of
getting
things changed.


Lay off the beer, is my best advice to you..

Your words: "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics,"
Why are you inclined to tell someone such?
You think the law wouldn;t change if every abortionist was attacked?
They wouldn't have any choice but to change it.


You'll just make people hate you more.


Now you think I care about what people think about me?
LOL!
You are definitely an idiot now.


Well, if you want them to vote your way, you should worry about what they
think of you.

What makes you think people who do not advocate killing babies hate me any?

Curt

.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 14 Sep 2006 11:27:00 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message

Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are
trained medical professionals.

No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.

It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.

Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god damned
abortion ***** and work for society?

Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?

You prefer "Pro-Choice"?

I prefer you living in a room with rubber walls, until such time as you're
well enough to function in society.

There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are.. well..
weenies.

It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.

Have fun trying..

I do not need to try. It will happen because it is unnecessary.

....never mind that it's been around approximately as long as humanity.

You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but
you'll never get the law changed.

Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of getting
things changed.

Lay off the beer, is my best advice to you..

Your words: "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics," Why are you inclined to tell someone such?

Possibly to point out the incredible disregard of logic and reality in your
responses.

You think the law wouldn;t change if every abortionist was attacked?
They wouldn't have any choice but to change it.

....and you'd likely be one of the first people to be locked up for life,
thanks to your babbling about it.

You'll just make people hate you more.

Now you think I care about what people think about me? LOL! You are
definitely an idiot now.

Well, if you want them to vote your way, you should worry about what they
think of you.

What makes you think people who do not advocate killing babies hate me any?

Hate's wasted on loons like you. Being a bit scared of psychos is normal.
(Fortunately, it's not likely you'll ever have any authority over anyone
else.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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User: "John D.Wentzky"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 15 Sep 2006 12:12:05 PM
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message


Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are
trained medical professionals.


No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.


It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.


Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned
abortion ***** and work for society?


Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?


You prefer "Pro-Choice"?


I prefer you living in a room with rubber walls, until such time as you're
well enough to function in society.

I prefer you ending your anti-liberty crusade against me.

There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are..
well..
weenies.


It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.


Have fun trying..


I do not need to try. It will happen because it is unnecessary.


...never mind that it's been around approximately as long as humanity.

In utero fetal homocide?

You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but
you'll never get the law changed.


Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of
getting
things changed.


Lay off the beer, is my best advice to you..


Your words: "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics," Why are you inclined to tell someone such?


Possibly to point out the incredible disregard of logic and reality in
your
responses.

Why would he want to tell people that though?
Who acts if people can not choose their sexual orientation and then says
people can shoot doctors and blow up nurses at abortion clinics?
LOL!
You were asking about logic?

You think the law wouldn;t change if every abortionist was attacked?
They wouldn't have any choice but to change it.


...and you'd likely be one of the first people to be locked up for life,
thanks to your babbling about it.

I couldn't be locked up for life, because I did not commit any crime, and
because of Free Speech.
Who typed, "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics."
It wasn't me.
And, how about all the people who woudla blew them up if they did get
together and do such?
Why would you want them locked up?
Wouldn't you think it would be better to stop pissing people off instead of
digging in even deeper?
All this is hypothetical.

You'll just make people hate you more.


Now you think I care about what people think about me? LOL! You are
definitely an idiot now.


Well, if you want them to vote your way, you should worry about what
they
think of you.


What makes you think people who do not advocate killing babies hate me
any?


Hate's wasted on loons like you.

Hate of what?
Hate of people who don;t like killing people in the wombs of women?
What kind of hate if that?
Seems quite unqualified to me.
Seems unusual for someone who is for killing people in utero to hate people
who aren't for that business.

Being a bit scared of psychos is normal.

There's your paranoiz showing.
Why is it people like me aren't reaching for that insult straw and we aren;t
living in fear of baby killers and their charaltans?
Who's the real psycho?
Why are they afraid?
LOL!
Again, you make pro-lifers laugh because you say Pro-Choicers are living in
fear.
Why are they living in fear?
I never killed anyone.
Your irrational fear crap is boring.
Idiotic.

(Fortunately, it's not likely you'll ever have any authority over anyone
else.)

I'm not rolling the dice to determine that one.


--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35

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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 15 Sep 2006 11:52:25 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@fnord.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message

Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are
trained medical professionals.

No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.

It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.

Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned abortion ***** and work for society?

Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?

You prefer "Pro-Choice"?

I prefer you living in a room with rubber walls, until such time as you're
well enough to function in society.

I prefer you ending your anti-liberty crusade against me.

I prefer you getting the medical treatment you badly need.

There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are..
well.. weenies.

It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.

Have fun trying..

I do not need to try. It will happen because it is unnecessary.

...never mind that it's been around approximately as long as humanity.

In utero fetal homocide?

Abortion has been around for at least written history...it's even in the
Hippocratic Oath. (Of course, your slow-brained anti-abort comrades twist the
mention of abortion into something it never was.)

You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but
you'll never get the law changed.

Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of
getting things changed.

Lay off the beer, is my best advice to you..

Your words: "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics," Why are you inclined to tell someone such?

Possibly to point out the incredible disregard of logic and reality in your
responses.

Why would he want to tell people that though?

Why don't you ask Curt, since *he* made that statement? (Your delusions
aside, we don't all speak with the same words.)

Who acts if people can not choose their sexual orientation and then says
people can shoot doctors and blow up nurses at abortion clinics?
LOL!
You were asking about logic?

You need to ask about literacy in your supposed first language.

You think the law wouldn;t change if every abortionist was attacked?
They wouldn't have any choice but to change it.

...and you'd likely be one of the first people to be locked up for life,
thanks to your babbling about it.

I couldn't be locked up for life, because I did not commit any crime, and
because of Free Speech.

Really? Tell that to Eric Rudolph.

Who typed, "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics."
It wasn't me.
And, how about all the people who woudla blew them up if they did get
together and do such?
Why would you want them locked up?
Wouldn't you think it would be better to stop pissing people off instead of
digging in even deeper?
All this is hypothetical.

Your understanding is equally hypothetical.

You'll just make people hate you more.

Now you think I care about what people think about me? LOL! You are
definitely an idiot now.

Well, if you want them to vote your way, you should worry about what they
think of you.

What makes you think people who do not advocate killing babies hate me
any?

Hate's wasted on loons like you.

Hate of what?

Your hate of anyone who won't do as you decree, for a start.

Hate of people who don;t like killing people in the wombs of women?
What kind of hate if that?

If your comrades would agree to quit their sleazy tactics, and live with the
fact that a woman's pregnancy is hers to deal with - not theirs - we wouldn't
be having this conversation.

Seems quite unqualified to me.
Seems unusual for someone who is for killing people in utero to hate people
who aren't for that business.

What seems to be, to you, is reliably disconnected from reality. You've made
that painfully obvious over the last few years.

Being a bit scared of psychos is normal.

There's your paranoiz showing.
Why is it people like me aren't reaching for that insult straw and we aren;t
living in fear of baby killers and their charaltans?

Probably because that's your defective imagination running wild, as usual.

Who's the real psycho?
Why are they afraid?
LOL!
Again, you make pro-lifers laugh because you say Pro-Choicers are living in
fear.
Why are they living in fear?
I never killed anyone.
Your irrational fear crap is boring.
Idiotic.

Of course, it would never occur to you that some of your "pro-life" comrades
(cf. Rudolph) might think that any force needed to prevent women from making
their own choices is justified.

(Fortunately, it's not likely you'll ever have any authority over anyone
else.)

I'm not rolling the dice to determine that one.

You don't have to...as long as what's left of your mind is like it is now, you
will never have that privilege. Count on it.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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User: "Uncle Clover"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 17 Sep 2006 05:29:58 AM
On 14 Sep 2006 23:27:00 -0500, The Chief Instigator <patrick@fnord.io.com>
wrote:

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

<grande snippaggio>

What makes you think people who do not advocate killing babies hate me any?


Hate's wasted on loons like you. Being a bit scared of psychos is normal.
(Fortunately, it's not likely you'll ever have any authority over anyone
else.)

Don't be so sure about that last sentence. I mean after all, just look what's
in the White House. If -he- can do it...
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
************************************************
The true mark of a civilized society is that its
citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.
************************************************
"Oh, _shit_!"
- Famous last words of many, many people...
************************************************
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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 17 Sep 2006 08:33:23 AM
Uncle Clover <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> writes:

On 14 Sep 2006 23:27:00 -0500, The Chief Instigator <patrick@fnord.io.com>
wrote:

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

<grande snippaggio>

What makes you think people who do not advocate killing babies hate me any?

Hate's wasted on loons like you. Being a bit scared of psychos is normal.
(Fortunately, it's not likely you'll ever have any authority over anyone
else.)

Don't be so sure about that last sentence. I mean after all, just look what's
in the White House. If -he- can do it...

Point taken...but Wentzky's upfront about his insanity, even if he doesn't
realize it. (crosses fingers)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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User: "Curt"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 14 Sep 2006 11:40:04 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message


Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are

trained

medical professionals.


No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.


It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.


Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned
abortion ***** and work for society?


Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?


You prefer "Pro-Choice"?

I don't have a preference. I don't care what you say. Just sayin'. "god
damned abortion *****" doesn't parse out. At all.



There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are..

well..

weenies.


It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.


Have fun trying..


I do not need to try.
It will happen because it is unnecessary.


You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but
you'll never get the law changed.


Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of
getting
things changed.


Lay off the beer, is my best advice to you..


Your words: "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics,"
Why are you inclined to tell someone such?
You think the law wouldn;t change if every abortionist was attacked?
They wouldn't have any choice but to change it.

"they"?
And there's no such thing in this country as an "abortionist".
Curt
.
User: "John D.Wentzky"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 15 Sep 2006 12:14:04 PM
"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message


Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are

trained

medical professionals.


No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.


It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.


Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned
abortion ***** and work for society?


Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?


You prefer "Pro-Choice"?


I don't have a preference. I don't care what you say. Just sayin'. "god
damned abortion *****" doesn't parse out. At all.



There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are..

well..

weenies.


It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.


Have fun trying..


I do not need to try.
It will happen because it is unnecessary.


You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but
you'll never get the law changed.


Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of
getting
things changed.


Lay off the beer, is my best advice to you..


Your words: "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics,"
Why are you inclined to tell someone such?
You think the law wouldn't change if every abortionist was attacked?
They wouldn't have any choice but to change it.


"they"?

Lawmakers.

And there's no such thing in this country as an "abortionist".

You prefer the term "Pro-Choice"?

Curt


.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 15 Sep 2006 11:55:28 PM
"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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[...]

Your words: "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics," Why are you inclined to tell someone such? You think the law
wouldn't change if every abortionist was attacked? They wouldn't have any
choice but to change it.

"they"?

Lawmakers.

And there's no such thing in this country as an "abortionist".

You prefer the term "Pro-Choice"?

No, because he lives in reality, unlike you. If you really believe what you
just asked, let's see a record of the abortions I've done, okay? (You'll have
to make one up, since I've never done any or even recommended any, but I know
that's not stopped you yet.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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User: "Curt"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 16 Sep 2006 12:01:07 AM
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Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are

trained

medical professionals.


No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.


It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.


Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned
abortion ***** and work for society?


Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god

damned

abortion *****"?


You prefer "Pro-Choice"?


I don't have a preference. I don't care what you say. Just sayin'. "god
damned abortion *****" doesn't parse out. At all.



There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are..

well..

weenies.


It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.


Have fun trying..


I do not need to try.
It will happen because it is unnecessary.


You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics,

but

you'll never get the law changed.


Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of
getting
things changed.


Lay off the beer, is my best advice to you..


Your words: "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics,"
Why are you inclined to tell someone such?
You think the law wouldn't change if every abortionist was attacked?
They wouldn't have any choice but to change it.


"they"?


Lawmakers.

Sure they will. They've had the choice for the last thirty years. They
haven't made that choice -- it would be suicidal. They're not going to any
time in the near future.
With the occasional weirdo exception.


And there's no such thing in this country as an "abortionist".


You prefer the term "Pro-Choice"?

I'm pro-choice. Does that make me, in your book, an "abortionist"?
There's no such field, in this country.
There may be, in other countries. I don't know for sure.
Curt
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User: "Strife767"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 14 Sep 2006 06:35:13 PM
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:52:30 -0400, John D.Wentzky
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:


"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message


Currently the only people who can legally perform abortions are

trained

medical professionals.


No need for such with Plan B.
Surgical abortion can be outlawed.


It could be, I suppose. But it won't be.


Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned
abortion ***** and work for society?


Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?


You prefer "Pro-Choice"?

Not a big fan of liberty, huh?



There aren't enough of you weenies, and the ones there are are..

well..

weenies.


It will happen, low grade student, it will happen.
There is no way to prevent the elimination of surgical abortion.


Have fun trying..


I do not need to try.
It will happen because it is unnecessary.

Whatever you say--there isn't even any real debate on the subject
anymore--it's already decided, and no one with the potential influence to
make any changes even talks about it. Sounds like your ***** out of luck.



You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at clinics, but
you'll never get the law changed.


Another error on your part, and more indication of your methods of
getting
things changed.


Lay off the beer, is my best advice to you..


Your words: "You can shoot doctors in the back, or blow up nurses at
clinics,"
Why are you inclined to tell someone such?

Anti-abortionists have done this in the past. I defy you to find similar
crimes (especially when it comes to number) done by pro-choicers to
pro-lifers for the same difference of beliefs reason.

You think the law wouldn;t change if every abortionist was attacked?
They wouldn't have any choice but to change it.

Sounds like another threat, albeit slightly more subtle.



You'll just make people hate you more.


Now you think I care about what people think about me?
LOL!
You are definitely an idiot now.


Well, if you want them to vote your way, you should worry about what
they
think of you.


What makes you think people who do not advocate killing babies hate me
any?

Almost no one advocates killing babies--embryos/fetuses are not babies.
But why exactly do you consider the unborn to be babies? Do you refer to a
seed as a tree, and an egg as a chicken, too?
.


User: "gatt"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 14 Sep 2006 04:30:34 PM
"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned
abortion ***** and work for society?


Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?

*cackle*
-c
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User: "Curt"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 14 Sep 2006 11:41:35 PM
"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned
abortion ***** and work for society?


Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?



*cackle*

I'm guessing warm, cheap, watered down gin, myself.
Curt
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Morning After' Hangover? 15 Sep 2006 02:23:42 AM
"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> writes:

"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
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"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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Do you mean because you are too god damned lazy to get off your god
damned
abortion ***** and work for society?

Friends don't let friends drink and post. Geez, get a grip. "god damned
abortion *****"?

*cackle*

I'm guessing warm, cheap, watered down gin, myself.

Either that, or he's got someone sending him shipments of Pearl Beer from
Texas...;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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