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"james g. keegan jr." |
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13 Apr 2005 06:37:33 PM |
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"Morning-after" pill delays |
"Morning-after" pill delays
Here's a study I haven't seen that seems important to get out there. Much
of the carping by conservatives over infamous the Plan B "morning-after"
pill—which still has yet to be approved for over-the-counter sale by the
FDA—has focused on the assumption that the pill would make women more
likely to engage in "icky" sexual activity. Now we can argue whether or not
you think this is a reasonable argument—I certainly don't—but what would be
nice to have are facts.
And now it looks like we do. According to researchers at the University of
California, in a study done earlier this year, increased access to the pill
does not affect sexual behavior. What the pill does do, of course, is help
reduce the risk of unwanted pregnancies. More to the point, the pill helps
reduce the number of abortions—which in theory should be exactly what
conservatives would like to see. So file that alongside all the other
mountains of evidence indicating that the pill is perfectly safe and
effective for women.
Unfazed by the scientific method, however, the Bush administration is
delaying yet again an FDA confirmation vote on approving the pill. So now
the Senate is getting into the matter, as Hillary Clinton and Patty Murray
have promised to hold up the nomination of Lester Crawford to FDA
commissioner spot until the controversy gets resolved. And hopefully it
does soon. By the by, Chris Mooney wrote a piece for Mother Jones about the
holdup, and the controversy, surrounding the pill a few months back that's
worth a read.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/index.html#142
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 12:07:21 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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let's hope this shows up the next time people have an
opportunity
to
vote, assuming they're allowed to and that their votes are
counted.
Do you mean like when the people got to vote on Roe V Wade in
1973?
Human rights are not subject to vote.
W(ho)TF are you?
Someone who reads the newsgroups you clutter, obviously.
Are you a U.S. Citizen or are you butting your head into something
you
do
NOT have a say in?
*****, Wentzky.
You can't handle it?
You post to a public newsgroup, and anyone can respond to
your insane blather.
Swallow your own words and realize what they mean.
If you don't like it, find something else to occupy your
time than convincing people that you really are insane.
Read your penultimate(up unto this point) statement.
Every right and wrong in a democratic society is SUBJECT to vote
Without proper representation , such things as wars ensue.
...which has nothing to do with his observation that human rights
aren't
subject to vote.
How is it that human rights are not subject to vote?
Try reading the Constitution, particularly the 1st, 4th, 9th and 14th
Amendments.
Human rights are absolute. You can't decide that, say, blacks should be
denied equal rights just because the majority think it shuld be so.
If there were a tyranny of the majority, Brown v Board of Education
could
have been overturned by popular vote in the 1950s.
That is why the "popular vote" anti-gay legislation in various states in
unconstitutional. These "laws" deny equal rights to a class of people
(i.e.
gays), while the US Constitution guarantees equal rights for ALL. This
is
why an anti-gay amendment to the Constitution, as Darth Dubya wants,
would
signal the end of American freedom.
America is supposed to mean FREEDOM. FREEDOM. LIBERTY. EQUAL RIGHTS FOR
ALL.
If abortion is outlawed, a FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT would be denied. And
that
would be a tragedy for American freedom.
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 02:00:38 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
Respecting people as equals? Respecting people as equals involves allowing
them - allowing EVERYONE - to be FREE, with EQUAL RIGHTS. This is the very
antithesis of what you right-wingers stand for.
This includes women, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is evident
in your wishing to tell them what they can and cannot do with their own
bodies.
This includes gays, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is evident
in your obsession with denying them equal rights, such as marriage.
This includes the terminally ill, whom you right-wingers don't respect,
which is evident in your attempts to keep those who wish for their own
suffering to end bfrom dying with dignity.
This includes the poor, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident in all your attempts to make them poorer while the rich grow richer.
This includes minorities, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident in your legislative attempts to worsen the socioeconomic situations
of minorities.
This includes non-Christiansm whom you don't respect, which is evident in
your attempts to make Christianity the state religion.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 09:42:11 AM |
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"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
Respecting people as equals?
It is NOT happening in Roe V Wade.
Respecting people as equals involves allowing
them - allowing EVERYONE - to be FREE, with EQUAL RIGHTS. This is the very
antithesis of what you right-wingers stand for.
You lied.
This includes women, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your wishing to tell them what they can and cannot do with their own
bodies.
Wrong.
This includes gays, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is evident
in your obsession with denying them equal rights, such as marriage.
WRONG!
This includes the terminally ill, whom you right-wingers don't respect,
which is evident in your attempts to keep those who wish for their own
suffering to end bfrom dying with dignity.
*****!
This includes the poor, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident in all your attempts to make them poorer while the rich grow
richer.
Proof?
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 12:14:19 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
Respecting people as equals?
It is NOT happening in Roe V Wade.
No, schmuck, it's happening between real people. I respect a hell of a lot of
people as equals, and that had nothing to do with a SCOTUS decision in 1973.
Respecting people as equals involves allowing
them - allowing EVERYONE - to be FREE, with EQUAL RIGHTS. This is the very
antithesis of what you right-wingers stand for.
You lied.
You're delusional, as usual.
This includes women, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is evident
in your wishing to tell them what they can and cannot do with their own
bodies.
Wrong.
You're quite reliably wrong, indeed.
This includes gays, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is evident
in your obsession with denying them equal rights, such as marriage.
WRONG!
"...and John D. Wentzky STILL blows goats!"
This includes the terminally ill, whom you right-wingers don't respect,
which is evident in your attempts to keep those who wish for their own
suffering to end bfrom dying with dignity.
*****!
Maybe you should ask your imaginary playmate why he damned you in the first
place.
This includes the poor, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident in all your attempts to make them poorer while the rich grow
richer.
Proof?
You should know, seeing as no one will ever mistake you for Donald Trump.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Chicago 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, April 17 vs. Utah, 5:05
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
17 Apr 2005 12:27:32 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
Respecting people as equals?
It is NOT happening in Roe V Wade.
Uh, yes it IS.
Respecting people as equals involves allowing
them - allowing EVERYONE - to be FREE, with EQUAL RIGHTS. This is the
very
antithesis of what you right-wingers stand for.
You lied.
Nope. I am telling you the cold, hard truth and you are covering your ears
and singing "la la la I can't hear you".
This includes women, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your wishing to tell them what they can and cannot do with their own
bodies.
Wrong.
Look at the attempts by your fellow right-wingers to illegalize abortion.
This includes gays, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your obsession with denying them equal rights, such as marriage.
WRONG!
Look at the Republicans' call for a Constitituional amendment to ban gay
marriage.
This includes the terminally ill, whom you right-wingers don't respect,
which is evident in your attempts to keep those who wish for their own
suffering to end bfrom dying with dignity.
*****!
Look at the Terri Schiavo case.
This includes the poor, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident in all your attempts to make them poorer while the rich grow
richer.
Proof?
Well, for one thing, there's the bankruptcy reform bill that was just passed
this week, which Darth Dubya will sign. The examples of the Republcians'
hatred for the poor are legion and are so well documented that you would be
insane to claim that the Republicans respect the poor.
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| User: "Lefty" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
17 Apr 2005 12:00:21 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message news:<ct98e.76171$vL3.47279@bignews4.bellsouth.net>...
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q51v$cml$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
Respecting people as equals?
It is NOT happening in Roe V Wade.
Respecting people as equals involves allowing
them - allowing EVERYONE - to be FREE, with EQUAL RIGHTS. This is the very
antithesis of what you right-wingers stand for.
You lied.
This includes women, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your wishing to tell them what they can and cannot do with their own
bodies.
Wrong.
This includes gays, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is evident
in your obsession with denying them equal rights, such as marriage.
WRONG!
This includes the terminally ill, whom you right-wingers don't respect,
which is evident in your attempts to keep those who wish for their own
suffering to end bfrom dying with dignity.
*****!
This includes the poor, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident in all your attempts to make them poorer while the rich grow
richer.
Proof?
Bwahahahahaha! You're right out of central casting. Do keep up your
entertaining tantrums. What a pathetic, mouth-breathing troglodyte.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 10:26:53 AM |
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In article <ct98e.76171$vL3.47279@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, Johnny
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d3qd6k$7or$1@news.seed.net.tw...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:H_08e.60385$UW6.25347@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q51v$cml$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
Respecting people as equals?
It is NOT happening in Roe V Wade.
Respecting people as equals involves allowing
them - allowing EVERYONE - to be FREE, with EQUAL RIGHTS. This is the very
antithesis of what you right-wingers stand for.
You lied.
This includes women, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your wishing to tell them what they can and cannot do with their own
bodies.
Wrong.
This includes gays, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is evident
in your obsession with denying them equal rights, such as marriage.
WRONG!
This includes the terminally ill, whom you right-wingers don't respect,
which is evident in your attempts to keep those who wish for their own
suffering to end bfrom dying with dignity.
*****!
This includes the poor, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident in all your attempts to make them poorer while the rich grow
richer.
Proof?
Are you really Osprey?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: David Barnes too obsessed |
16 Apr 2005 11:25:57 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <ct98e.76171$vL3.47279@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, Johnny
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d3qd6k$7or$1@news.seed.net.tw...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:H_08e.60385$UW6.25347@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q51v$cml$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
Respecting people as equals?
It is NOT happening in Roe V Wade.
Respecting people as equals involves allowing
them - allowing EVERYONE - to be FREE, with EQUAL RIGHTS. This is the
very
antithesis of what you right-wingers stand for.
You lied.
This includes women, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your wishing to tell them what they can and cannot do with their own
bodies.
Wrong.
This includes gays, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your obsession with denying them equal rights, such as marriage.
WRONG!
This includes the terminally ill, whom you right-wingers don't respect,
which is evident in your attempts to keep those who wish for their own
suffering to end bfrom dying with dignity.
*****!
This includes the poor, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident in all your attempts to make them poorer while the rich grow
richer.
Proof?
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: David Barnes too obsessed |
16 Apr 2005 12:19:26 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
[...]
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're trying to
hide...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Chicago 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, April 17 vs. Utah, 5:05
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: David Barnes too obsessed |
16 Apr 2005 03:33:05 PM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64ym4p29.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
[...]
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're trying to
hide...
Thank you for taking such a big interest in the website, I hope you found it
informative, there is a lot of news that is available.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: David Barnes too obsessed |
16 Apr 2005 11:17:07 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64ym4p29.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
[...]
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're trying to
hide...
Thank you for taking such a big interest in the website, I hope you found it
informative, there is a lot of news that is available.
It's okay if you don't mind websites that look like they were put together by
a prison babysitter who may someday be able to write almost as well as a
fifth-grader.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Chicago 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, April 17 vs. Utah, 5:05
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: David Barnes too obsessed |
16 Apr 2005 11:37:58 PM |
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In article <szkacnyavgc.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64ym4p29.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
[...]
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're trying to
hide...
Thank you for taking such a big interest in the website, I hope you found it
informative, there is a lot of news that is available.
It's okay if you don't mind websites that look like they were put together by
a prison babysitter who may someday be able to write almost as well as a
fifth-grader.
It did look amateurishly written. Is he saying he created it now?
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: David Barnes too obsessed |
16 Apr 2005 11:45:23 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> writes:
In article <szkacnyavgc.fsf@fnord.io.com>, Patrick Lee Humphrey
<patrick@io.com> wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64ym4p29.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
[...]
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're trying to
hide...
Thank you for taking such a big interest in the website, I hope you found
it informative, there is a lot of news that is available.
It's okay if you don't mind websites that look like they were put together
by a prison babysitter who may someday be able to write almost as well as a
fifth-grader.
It did look amateurishly written. Is he saying he created it now?
It's stated right on the front page: "maintained by Cpl. Robert Heishman" -
and the level of general education in the county of Delaware is a bit higher
than what would explain Bobby's frequent errors...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Chicago 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, April 17 vs. Utah, 5:05
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: David Barnes too obsessed |
17 Apr 2005 12:42:19 AM |
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Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64ym4p29.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
[...]
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your
fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're
trying to
hide...
Thank you for taking such a big interest in the website, I hope you
found it
informative, there is a lot of news that is available.
It's okay if you don't mind websites that look like they were put
together by
a prison babysitter who may someday be able to write almost as well
as a
fifth-grader.
I'm very happy with how it looks, as more than 1500 other officers are,
including many legislators, administrators, state police, some local
lawyers, magistrates, and judges. Why would I worry about what a few
peon's in a newsgroup think? It obviously bothers you guys a great
deal the success the site has with other officers. That alone makes it
worthwhile for me, if it wasn't for the fact many rely on it for
information.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: David Barnes too obsessed |
17 Apr 2005 12:57:29 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64ym4p29.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
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Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're trying to
hide...
Thank you for taking such a big interest in the website, I hope you found
it informative, there is a lot of news that is available.
It's okay if you don't mind websites that look like they were put together
by a prison babysitter who may someday be able to write almost as well as a
fifth-grader.
I'm very happy with how it looks, as more than 1500 other officers are,
including many legislators, administrators, state police, some local
lawyers, magistrates, and judges. Why would I worry about what a few
peon's in a newsgroup think? It obviously bothers you guys a great
deal the success the site has with other officers. That alone makes it
worthwhile for me, if it wasn't for the fact many rely on it for
information.
Keep in mind that the people who visit your little website are almost
certainly more educated than you - so don't whine at me when they tend to
agree with my assessment than with your bragging.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Chicago 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, April 17 vs. Utah, 5:05
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: David Barnes too obsessed |
17 Apr 2005 01:09:08 AM |
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Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64ym4p29.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
[...]
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your
fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're
trying to
hide...
Thank you for taking such a big interest in the website, I hope
you found
it informative, there is a lot of news that is available.
It's okay if you don't mind websites that look like they were put
together
by a prison babysitter who may someday be able to write almost as
well as a
fifth-grader.
I'm very happy with how it looks, as more than 1500 other officers
are,
including many legislators, administrators, state police, some local
lawyers, magistrates, and judges. Why would I worry about what a
few
peon's in a newsgroup think? It obviously bothers you guys a great
deal the success the site has with other officers. That alone makes
it
worthwhile for me, if it wasn't for the fact many rely on it for
information.
Keep in mind that the people who visit your little website are almost
certainly more educated than you - so don't whine at me when they
tend to
agree with my assessment than with your bragging.
Yet they don't, except for a few bigots such as yourself. It's
expected, I expect you guys to foam, rant, ridicule, knock it..or what
ever. That is what you do, you are fulfilling your expectations.
Despite your ignorance, the site has gotten EXCELLENT reviews and
serves a valuable service to more than 1500 officers.
So keep on plugging, keep on acting like you do..I expect it, and keep
on advertising. I had one person who visited it today, got the
information from you, and told me how informative the site is and
signed up for the news letter.
Thanks!!!
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: David Barnes too obsessed |
17 Apr 2005 01:26:01 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64ym4p29.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
[...]
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're
trying to hide...
Thank you for taking such a big interest in the website, I hope you
found it informative, there is a lot of news that is available.
It's okay if you don't mind websites that look like they were put
together by a prison babysitter who may someday be able to write almost
as well as a fifth-grader.
I'm very happy with how it looks, as more than 1500 other officers are,
including many legislators, administrators, state police, some local
lawyers, magistrates, and judges. Why would I worry about what a few
peon's in a newsgroup think? It obviously bothers you guys a great
deal the success the site has with other officers. That alone makes it
worthwhile for me, if it wasn't for the fact many rely on it for
information.
Keep in mind that the people who visit your little website are almost
certainly more educated than you - so don't whine at me when they tend to
agree with my assessment than with your bragging.
Yet they don't, except for a few bigots such as yourself. It's
expected, I expect you guys to foam, rant, ridicule, knock it..or what
ever. That is what you do, you are fulfilling your expectations.
You claim they don't. You have a history of engaging in truth by assertion.
Despite your ignorance, the site has gotten EXCELLENT reviews and
serves a valuable service to more than 1500 officers.
So you say, anyway...what is your word worth, again?
So keep on plugging, keep on acting like you do..I expect it, and keep
on advertising. I had one person who visited it today, got the
information from you, and told me how informative the site is and
signed up for the news letter.
....just like some administrator at Rice U told you why I was fired, right?
Pull my other finger, Cop Reject.
Thanks!!!
Thank *you* for going out of your way to show what a feeble-minded annoyance
you are, Bobby. Keep up the good work.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Chicago 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, April 17 vs. Utah, 5:05
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Osprey is a moron |
16 Apr 2005 10:56:07 PM |
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In article <h8GdnQAuvsYq6PzfRVn-oA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64ym4p29.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826532311%dbarnes@aol.com...
[...]
Are you really Osprey?
I really messed you up good boy..you just can't help yourself.
Too bad...pathetic also
Hey, Cop Reject - any reason you yanked those pictures of your fellow
unionistas off truetoblue.org? Someone might wonder what you're trying to
hide...
Thank you for taking such a big interest in the website, I hope you found it
informative, there is a lot of news that is available.
They fired you, right?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 11:32:19 AM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q51v$cml$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
Respecting people as equals?
It is NOT happening in Roe V Wade.
Prove it, kook.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
23 Apr 2005 01:26:28 PM |
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Peacenik wrote:
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:H_08e.60385$UW6.25347@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q51v$cml$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey
your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as
equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender
card.
Respecting people as equals? Respecting people as equals involves
allowing
them - allowing EVERYONE - to be FREE, with EQUAL RIGHTS. This is the
very
antithesis of what you right-wingers stand for.
This includes women, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your wishing to tell them what they can and cannot do with their
own
bodies.
This includes gays, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your obsession with denying them equal rights, such as marriage.
They can marry one person of the opposite sex just like the Mormons.
Michael
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
23 Apr 2005 02:37:18 PM |
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Michael Ejercito wrote:
Peacenik wrote:
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:H_08e.60385$UW6.25347@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q51v$cml$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey
your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as
equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender
card.
Respecting people as equals? Respecting people as equals involves
allowing
them - allowing EVERYONE - to be FREE, with EQUAL RIGHTS. This is
the
very
antithesis of what you right-wingers stand for.
This includes women, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your wishing to tell them what they can and cannot do with their
own
bodies.
This includes gays, whom you right-wingers don't respect, which is
evident
in your obsession with denying them equal rights, such as marriage.
They can marry one person of the opposite sex just like the
Mormons.
So you agree with the requirement that you can only get married to
someone of the same gender? Because that is effectively what you are
saying to homosexuals.
Equal rights means that they have the right to marry the person that
they love and want to spend the rest of their lives with, and they get
the same rights as a heterosexual couple. The fact that they prefer
someone of the same gender should not matter. They should still be
able to marry that person.
Right now, homosexuals do not have that right except in Massachusetts,
and any such couple that moves to another state will have a valid court
case on their hands because of the Full Faith and Credit clause of the
Constitution. (Article IV, Section 1) The federal Constitution trumps
any state law or constitution. It trumps federal law as well.
Mark Sebree
Michael
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 12:20:07 AM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
And yet it is YOU that keeps insisting that WOMEN must be forced to
do as you say.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 09:39:50 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q7a7$foc$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
And yet it is YOU that keeps insisting that WOMEN must be forced to
do as you say.
That is YOUR LIE!
I never said that, you liar.
You are still acting like the GOD DAMNED wimp who acts as if everyone who
does NOT like abortion on demand does not like women.
YOu are illegally relying on gender, discriminating on the basis of gender
to supprt your GOD DAMNED LIE!
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 12:10:12 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q7a7$foc$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
And yet it is YOU that keeps insisting that WOMEN must be forced to
do as you say.
That is YOUR LIE! I never said that, you liar.
All anyone has to do is Google "wxpprofessional@msn.com" and see for
themselves what you spew into newsgroups.
You are still acting like the GOD DAMNED wimp who acts as if everyone who
does NOT like abortion on demand does not like women.
Your own incoherent ravings give quite enough to support that opinion
concerning you.
YOu are illegally relying on gender, discriminating on the basis of gender
to supprt your GOD DAMNED LIE!
So call the cops, Anderson County Lackwit. Be a man, for once. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Chicago 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, April 17 vs. Utah, 5:05
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| User: "Lefty" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
17 Apr 2005 11:57:54 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message news:<0r98e.76148$vL3.60915@bignews4.bellsouth.net>...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q7a7$foc$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
And yet it is YOU that keeps insisting that WOMEN must be forced to
do as you say.
Johnny screeched;
That is YOUR LIE!
I never said that, you liar.
You are still acting like the GOD DAMNED wimp who acts as if everyone who
does NOT like abortion on demand does not like women.
YOu are illegally relying on gender, discriminating on the basis of gender
to supprt your GOD DAMNED LIE!
Lefty replied;
Apparently, "liar" is one of the few insults in your limited
repetoire. You repeat it so obsessively, one can't help but think it's
pure projection, especially considering you directly accused the
poster of illegal gender discrimination, which is clearly not true.
If I may indulge in Johnnyspeak for a moment;
You're a LYING LIAR who LIES! Stop LYING, you GOD DAMNED LIE machine
of a LYING promoter of LIES!
Hey, that was fun.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 11:31:44 AM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:d3q7a7$foc$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
And yet it is YOU that keeps insisting that WOMEN must be forced to
do as you say.
That is YOUR LIE!
I never said that, you liar.
Sure you do. Again and again you insist that women be forced to give
birth.
You are still acting like the GOD DAMNED wimp who acts as if everyone who
You're still acting like an irrational nutcase.
YOu are illegally relying on gender,
Kook.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "BlackWater" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 01:42:08 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
And yet it is YOU that keeps insisting that WOMEN must be forced to
do as you say.
If men could get pregnant, we'd insist they follow
the SAME rules ....... no exceptions ......
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 11:30:36 AM |
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BlackWater <bw@barrk.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
And yet it is YOU that keeps insisting that WOMEN must be forced to
do as you say.
If men could get pregnant, we'd insist they follow
the SAME rules ....... no exceptions ......
You'd promote slavery for men as well.
How special.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "BlackWater" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 12:56:26 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:30:36 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
BlackWater <bw@barrk.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
And yet it is YOU that keeps insisting that WOMEN must be forced to
do as you say.
If men could get pregnant, we'd insist they follow
the SAME rules ....... no exceptions ......
You'd promote slavery for men as well.
How special.
Slavery ? Naw ... a REPUBLICAN ended slavery a
long time ago.
RESPONSIBILITY to not-quite-yet-born citizens, that's
something we'll insist upon though. A pregnant person
is a 'co-person' ... akin to someone with two heads
or inextricable cojoined twins. The law should protect
BOTH equally.
Now not-quite-ripe-yet fetuses - maybe below 4.5 months -
I'm not too worried about them. Inadequate wiring complexity
to warrant 'human' status. As such, the 'morning-after pill',
which causes the rejection of fertilized eggs, is OK with me.
It's not OK with *everybody* of course ... there ARE some who
consider an unformed blob containing human DNA to be equivalent
to a fully-grown human being ... but then you can find wackos
supporting most any position you want.
Personally, I think the MAIN issue with the 'morning-after'
pill has NOTHING to do with abortion and EVERYTHING to do
with 17th-century puritanical attitudes. The instant you
catch a whiff of "It may increase promiscuity" then that
diagnosis is confirmed. The neo-puritan American talibanistas
ARE powerful ... but still can be over-ruled (though maybe
not for much longer) by more sensible, modern-thinking
people.
My advice ... libertine interests should put in the extra
effort and grab whatever slack they can get *NOW* before
the talibanistas finish consolidating their grip on this
society. Might be twenty or even fifty years before that
grip weakens again.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: "Morning-after" pill delays |
16 Apr 2005 06:09:15 PM |
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BlackWater <> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
BlackWater < > wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Why is America hated in so many places in the world now?
Because of kooks like you who think that forcing people to obey your
immoral lunacy is more important than respecting people as equals.
Respecting people as equals does not involve playing the gender card.
And yet it is YOU that keeps insisting that WOMEN must be forced to
do as you say.
If men could get pregnant, we'd insist they follow
the SAME rules ....... no exceptions ......
You'd promote slavery for men as well.
How special.
Slavery ? Naw ... a REPUBLICAN ended slavery a
long time ago.
This episode of non sequitur theatre brought to you by:
RESPONSIBILITY to not-quite-yet-born citizens, that's
something we'll insist upon though.
LOL! Like saddling them with trilions of dollars of debt?
A pregnant person
is a 'co-person' .
Only 50% of a person? Gee, even slaves were supposedly 60% of a person.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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