Science > Abortion > Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers
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28 May 2006 11:31:01 PM |
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Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
This was an illegal demonstration, that was defiantly staged with the sole
purpose of provoking a violent response. This was an affront to the mores
and values of Russian society and should not have been so belligerently
staged; especially when permits were already rejected by the city and upheld
by the courts. The gay community owes Muscovites an apology.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/27/AR2006052701002_pf.html
MOSCOW, May 27 -- Riot police broke up an attempt by gays and lesbians to
stage Moscow's first gay pride parade Saturday. Gay activists who attempted
to lay flowers near the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier outside the Kremlin wall
and then assemble across from city hall were heckled and assaulted by
skinheads, Orthodox Christians and radical nationalists.
Police said they had arrested about 120 people, both supporters and
opponents of the parade. Gay activists were dragged away by riot police when
they began speaking to reporters, but opponents of the parade, including a
nationalist member of parliament, were allowed to speak and chant, "Moscow
is not Sodom."
Several international activists and politicians traveled to Moscow in a show
of support for Moscow's gays and lesbians. Volker Beck, a member of the
German Parliament from the Green Party, marched with the group and was
struck in the face by skinheads outside city hall. He was briefly detained
after the incident. A Canadian journalist was also assaulted by opponents of
the parade, who threw smoke bombs and eggs before police moved in to
disperse them.
"Lesbians and gays have to cope with major problems in Russia," Beck said at
a news conference earlier in the day. "There is a massive threat of
violence, and it is also frightening that there is no clear support from the
state for the rights of lesbian and gay citizens. On the contrary, the mayor
of Moscow deprives people who advocate tolerance and equal rights of the
freedom to demonstrate."
The city had banned the parade on the grounds that it was anathema to the
values of most residents and therefore presented a threat of violence. A
city court upheld the ban Friday.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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| Title: Re: Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
29 May 2006 01:35:09 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This was an illegal demonstration, that was defiantly staged with the sole
purpose of provoking a violent response.
JYoung takes the side of the Russia militia.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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28 May 2006 11:32:33 PM |
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<youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-05/cp-bsy051106.php
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29 May 2006 01:49:34 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
This was an illegal demonstration, that was defiantly staged with the sole
purpose of provoking a violent response. This was an affront to the mores
and values of Russian society and should not have been so belligerently
staged; especially when permits were already rejected by the city and upheld
by the courts. The gay community owes Muscovites an apology.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/27/AR2006052701002_pf.html
MOSCOW, May 27 -- Riot police broke up an attempt by gays and lesbians to
stage Moscow's first gay pride parade Saturday. Gay activists who attempted
to lay flowers near the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier outside the Kremlin wall
and then assemble across from city hall were heckled and assaulted by
skinheads, Orthodox Christians and radical nationalists.
J. Young lies again - this was obviously a case of police repression
in a country that is really just starting to put in democratic
institutions. The "gay community" in Russia was obviously trying to
do one thing and one thing only - have the sort of parade that many
other countries have and where nobody bats an eyelash.
BTW, if J. YOung wants an end to gay pride parades, there is a simple
way to do it - eliminate descrimination and prejudice, and the parades
will become superfluous.
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29 May 2006 10:45:45 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Mon, 29 May 2006
06:49:34 GMT iin alt.atheism?
BTW, if J. YOung wants an end to gay pride parades, there is a simple
way to do it - eliminate descrimination and prejudice, and the parades
will become superfluous.
Well, maybe. The Saint Patrick's Day Parade in NYC started as protest
march over the treatment of Irish immigrants. Still going strong.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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30 May 2006 02:46:15 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Mon, 29 May 2006
06:49:34 GMT iin alt.atheism?
BTW, if J. YOung wants an end to gay pride parades, there is a simple
way to do it - eliminate descrimination and prejudice, and the parades
will become superfluous.
Well, maybe. The Saint Patrick's Day Parade in NYC started as protest
march over the treatment of Irish immigrants. Still going strong.
If the gay pride parades keep going after descrimination ends like the
parade you just described, J. Young and his ilk will have only
themselves to blame for it. :-)
I'm not sure that the situation is comparable - I guess it is a
question of how many distractions you have for being gay versus being
Irish. We'll find out eventually, if we live long enough. :-)
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31 May 2006 01:35:55 AM |
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 19:46:15 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Mon, 29 May 2006
06:49:34 GMT iin alt.atheism?
BTW, if J. YOung wants an end to gay pride parades, there is a simple
way to do it - eliminate descrimination and prejudice, and the parades
will become superfluous.
Well, maybe. The Saint Patrick's Day Parade in NYC started as protest
march over the treatment of Irish immigrants. Still going strong.
If the gay pride parades keep going after descrimination ends like the
parade you just described, J. Young and his ilk will have only
themselves to blame for it. :-)
I'm not sure that the situation is comparable - I guess it is a
question of how many distractions you have for being gay versus being
Irish. We'll find out eventually, if we live long enough. :-)
You won't. Forty-nine years is the average life span for those
homosexuals who represent a vast majority of AIDS cases in the US.
BYE!
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31 May 2006 12:02:16 PM |
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Bitchin' Bonney <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Tue, 30 May 2006 19:46:15 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
If the gay pride parades keep going after descrimination ends like the
parade you just described, J. Young and his ilk will have only
themselves to blame for it. :-)
I'm not sure that the situation is comparable - I guess it is a
question of how many distractions you have for being gay versus being
Irish. We'll find out eventually, if we live long enough. :-)
You won't. Forty-nine years is the average life span for those
homosexuals who represent a vast majority of AIDS cases in the US.
BYE!
Bill Taylor (aka Bitchin' Bonney, aka ...) is making a fool of himself
again. However, he now has backtracked since his "49 year average
life span" was previously the approximate value he gave for all gays
and now it is only for those who are HIV+ (including, no doubt, people
who died before effective drugs were available).
The dude is slipping up, contradicting himself from one post to the next.
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31 May 2006 02:19:34 PM |
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:02:16 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bitchin' Bonney <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Tue, 30 May 2006 19:46:15 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
If the gay pride parades keep going after descrimination ends like the
parade you just described, J. Young and his ilk will have only
themselves to blame for it. :-)
I'm not sure that the situation is comparable - I guess it is a
question of how many distractions you have for being gay versus being
Irish. We'll find out eventually, if we live long enough. :-)
You won't. Forty-nine years is the average life span for those
homosexuals who represent a vast majority of AIDS cases in the US.
BYE!
Bill Taylor (aka Bitchin' Bonney, aka ...) is making a fool of himself
again. However, he now has backtracked since his "49 year average
life span" was previously the approximate value he gave for all gays
and now it is only for those who are HIV+ (including, no doubt, people
who died before effective drugs were available).
The dude is slipping up, contradicting himself from one post to the next.
Your lies change nothing.Everything I have said is factual. That why
you spend so much of your online time responding to it. You are
forced to, "Lie, Deny and expend a lot of time trying to Suppress the
TRUTH about homosexuality."
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| User: "No One" |
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31 May 2006 05:23:53 PM |
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Bitchin' Bonney <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:02:16 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bitchin' Bonney <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Tue, 30 May 2006 19:46:15 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
If the gay pride parades keep going after descrimination ends like the
parade you just described, J. Young and his ilk will have only
themselves to blame for it. :-)
I'm not sure that the situation is comparable - I guess it is a
question of how many distractions you have for being gay versus being
Irish. We'll find out eventually, if we live long enough. :-)
You won't. Forty-nine years is the average life span for those
homosexuals who represent a vast majority of AIDS cases in the US.
BYE!
Bill Taylor (aka Bitchin' Bonney, aka ...) is making a fool of himself
again. However, he now has backtracked since his "49 year average
life span" was previously the approximate value he gave for all gays
and now it is only for those who are HIV+ (including, no doubt, people
who died before effective drugs were available).
The dude is slipping up, contradicting himself from one post to the next.
Your lies change nothing.Everything I have said is factual. That why
you spend so much of your online time responding to it. You are
forced to, "Lie, Deny and expend a lot of time trying to Suppress the
TRUTH about homosexuality."
More lies from Bill Taylor.
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31 May 2006 04:51:21 PM |
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Bitchin' Bonney wrote:
Everything I have said is factual.
I've been in this newsgroup for a day and even _I_ know that's a lie.
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31 May 2006 04:48:39 PM |
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Bitchin' Bonney wrote:
Forty-nine years is the average life span for those
homosexuals who represent a vast majority of AIDS cases in the US.
There are two separate things being said here (and tied together quite
sneakily if I do say so myself):
1) The average lifespan of a homosexual with AIDS is 49.
That shows no difference between the life expectancy of a homosexual
with AIDS or a heterosexual with AIDS. And I'm _pretty_ sure AIDS
itself doesn't really care where its host's genitals are going; there
is no reason to believe anything as trivial as sexual orientation would
affect the way AIDS affects an individual--but nice try at singling out
the portion of AIDS sufferers who happen to be homosexual.
2) Homosexuals represent a vast majority of AIDS cases in the USA.
Source?
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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31 May 2006 09:17:33 PM |
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Bitchin' Bonney wrote:
You won't. Forty-nine years is the average life span for those
homosexuals who represent a vast majority of AIDS cases in the US.
Bonnie, you can stop giving -- ahem -- "lip service" to Paul Cameron.
He's white.
You're welcome.
No, don't thank me. I'm not sure I'm ever going to get that image out of
my mind.
No. Thank me for not slapping you.
That's a dear!
Now, if anyone wants me, I'll be bleaching my brain with about a
kazillion other folks.
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"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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30 May 2006 08:21:17 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Tue, 30 May 2006
19:46:15 GMT iin alt.atheism?
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Mon, 29 May 2006
06:49:34 GMT iin alt.atheism?
BTW, if J. YOung wants an end to gay pride parades, there is a simple
way to do it - eliminate descrimination and prejudice, and the parades
will become superfluous.
Well, maybe. The Saint Patrick's Day Parade in NYC started as protest
march over the treatment of Irish immigrants. Still going strong.
If the gay pride parades keep going after descrimination ends like the
parade you just described, J. Young and his ilk will have only
themselves to blame for it. :-)
I'm not sure that the situation is comparable - I guess it is a
question of how many distractions you have for being gay versus being
Irish. We'll find out eventually, if we live long enough. :-)
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore. I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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30 May 2006 08:31:03 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Tue, 30 May 2006
19:46:15 GMT iin alt.atheism?
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
I'm not sure that the situation is comparable - I guess it is a
question of how many distractions you have for being gay versus being
Irish. We'll find out eventually, if we live long enough. :-)
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore. I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
By "distractions" I meant things like dance clubs or other venues
where people could have a good time. I'd agree about being a
"marketable demographic". That's why Ford told the wingnuts to shove
it once they tallied up the gay market versus a right-wing Christian
boycott.
It may not really be a protest, but don't they have groups promoting
same-sex marriage and other political issues in it?
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31 May 2006 06:57:58 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Wed, 31 May 2006
01:31:03 GMT iin alt.atheism?
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore. I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
By "distractions" I meant things like dance clubs or other venues
where people could have a good time. I'd agree about being a
"marketable demographic". That's why Ford told the wingnuts to shove
it once they tallied up the gay market versus a right-wing Christian
boycott.
It may not really be a protest, but don't they have groups promoting
same-sex marriage and other political issues in it?
Oh sure. But the focus has shifted from "We're Here, We're Queer, Get
Used To It" to "We're Here, We're Queer, and We're Going To Celebrate
That!"
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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31 May 2006 04:36:00 AM |
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 01:21:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Tue, 30 May 2006
19:46:15 GMT iin alt.atheism?
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Mon, 29 May 2006
06:49:34 GMT iin alt.atheism?
BTW, if J. YOung wants an end to gay pride parades, there is a simple
way to do it - eliminate descrimination and prejudice, and the parades
will become superfluous.
Well, maybe. The Saint Patrick's Day Parade in NYC started as protest
march over the treatment of Irish immigrants. Still going strong.
If the gay pride parades keep going after descrimination ends like the
parade you just described, J. Young and his ilk will have only
themselves to blame for it. :-)
I'm not sure that the situation is comparable - I guess it is a
question of how many distractions you have for being gay versus being
Irish. We'll find out eventually, if we live long enough. :-)
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore.
<LOL> What the heck do you guys have to protest in San Francisco
anyway?
I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
You can be the target of extra strength prophylactics ads.
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31 May 2006 02:16:14 PM |
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 05:36:00 -0400, nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> wrote:
You can be the target of extra strength prophylactics ads.
They never use them, especially in San Francisco, "The bareback/AIDS
capital of the Universe."
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31 May 2006 06:56:50 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Wed, 31 May 2006
05:36:00 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore.
<LOL> What the heck do you guys have to protest in San Francisco
anyway?
We're San Franciscans! We *always* have something to protest about!
I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
You can be the target of extra strength prophylactics ads.
Trojan actually was a sponser a few years ago.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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31 May 2006 07:04:59 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Wed, 31 May 2006
05:36:00 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore.
<LOL> What the heck do you guys have to protest in San Francisco
anyway?
We're San Franciscans! We *always* have something to protest about!
Definitely true! I was once standing in a line outside the War
Memorial Opera House trying to get standing-room tickets and some
woman, who was walking past us, stopped and asked what we were
protesting!
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31 May 2006 07:26:33 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> posting the following on Thu, 01 Jun 2006
00:04:59 GMT iin alt.atheism?
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Wed, 31 May 2006
05:36:00 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore.
<LOL> What the heck do you guys have to protest in San Francisco
anyway?
We're San Franciscans! We *always* have something to protest about!
Definitely true! I was once standing in a line outside the War
Memorial Opera House trying to get standing-room tickets and some
woman, who was walking past us, stopped and asked what we were
protesting!
In 2003 I joined one of the massice anti-war protests with a big sign
reading "Free the Indianapolis 500!"
Not one of the SFSU students got it. Not *one*. The cops loved it
though.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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01 Jun 2006 06:16:44 AM |
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 23:56:50 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Wed, 31 May 2006
05:36:00 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore.
<LOL> What the heck do you guys have to protest in San Francisco
anyway?
We're San Franciscans! We *always* have something to protest about!
But does anyone care? I sure don't.
I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
You can be the target of extra strength prophylactics ads.
Trojan actually was a sponser a few years ago.
they know something...
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01 Jun 2006 08:04:39 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Thu, 01 Jun 2006
07:16:44 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 31 May 2006 23:56:50 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Wed, 31 May 2006
05:36:00 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore.
<LOL> What the heck do you guys have to protest in San Francisco
anyway?
We're San Franciscans! We *always* have something to protest about!
But does anyone care? I sure don't.
I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
You can be the target of extra strength prophylactics ads.
Trojan actually was a sponser a few years ago.
they know something...
Yes, that we tend to buy a lot of condoms. That the GLBT community
invented the concept of safe sex.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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| User: "nevermore" |
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| Title: Re: Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
01 Jun 2006 10:05:39 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:04:39 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Thu, 01 Jun 2006
07:16:44 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 31 May 2006 23:56:50 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Wed, 31 May 2006
05:36:00 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore.
<LOL> What the heck do you guys have to protest in San Francisco
anyway?
We're San Franciscans! We *always* have something to protest about!
But does anyone care? I sure don't.
I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
You can be the target of extra strength prophylactics ads.
Trojan actually was a sponser a few years ago.
they know something...
Yes, that we tend to buy a lot of condoms. That the GLBT community
invented the concept of safe sex.
....and you guys are also pretty significant in spreading the very
reason that the term "safe sex" was ever coined. Thank you very much
for that one.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
01 Jun 2006 09:12:17 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Thu, 01 Jun 2006
11:05:39 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:04:39 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Thu, 01 Jun 2006
07:16:44 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 31 May 2006 23:56:50 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Wed, 31 May 2006
05:36:00 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore.
<LOL> What the heck do you guys have to protest in San Francisco
anyway?
We're San Franciscans! We *always* have something to protest about!
But does anyone care? I sure don't.
I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
You can be the target of extra strength prophylactics ads.
Trojan actually was a sponser a few years ago.
they know something...
Yes, that we tend to buy a lot of condoms. That the GLBT community
invented the concept of safe sex.
...and you guys are also pretty significant in spreading the very
reason that the term "safe sex" was ever coined. Thank you very much
for that one.
Are you going to thank the IV drug users and Haitian imigrants as
well? They were the other main vectors in the US.
As for "you guys", I'm not one of them. In fact, I'm pretty asexual
these days. But even in my prime I was pretty much straight. (Antonio
Bandaras being a prime exception.. drool...)
And shall we discuss the heterosexual plague, herpes? 15 to 20
percent of the heterosexual adult population has the Herpes Simplex II
virus, and up to 75% have been exposed to Herpes I. Thanks to the
hets screwing like mink in the seventies. That's not even going into
the explosion in "traditional" STDs during the same period.
Had Patient Zero been a straight man, we'd probably have a cure
already.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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| User: "Bitchin Bonney" |
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| Title: Re: Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
02 Jun 2006 01:59:19 AM |
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 02:12:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
As for "you guys", I'm not one of them.
You must have learned that in the military, boy.
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| User: "nevermore" |
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| Title: Re: Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
02 Jun 2006 05:02:40 AM |
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 02:12:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Thu, 01 Jun 2006
11:05:39 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:04:39 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Thu, 01 Jun 2006
07:16:44 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
On Wed, 31 May 2006 23:56:50 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Wed, 31 May 2006
05:36:00 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
It's not really a protest march in SF anymore.
<LOL> What the heck do you guys have to protest in San Francisco
anyway?
We're San Franciscans! We *always* have something to protest about!
But does anyone care? I sure don't.
I remember about ten
years ago we suddenly had corporate sponsers. Anheuser-Busch was the
biggest. I heard much wailing and gnashing of teeth about "selling
out" and "big corporations." I wanted to grab people and scream "you
idiots, we've won! We're no longer godless perverts, we're a
marketable demographic!"
You can be the target of extra strength prophylactics ads.
Trojan actually was a sponser a few years ago.
they know something...
Yes, that we tend to buy a lot of condoms. That the GLBT community
invented the concept of safe sex.
...and you guys are also pretty significant in spreading the very
reason that the term "safe sex" was ever coined. Thank you very much
for that one.
Are you going to thank the IV drug users and Haitian imigrants as
well? They were the other main vectors in the US.
Oh yeah, much thanks to all the spreaders of aids..
As for "you guys", I'm not one of them. In fact, I'm pretty asexual
these days. But even in my prime I was pretty much straight. (Antonio
Bandaras being a prime exception.. drool...)
Pretty much?????
And shall we discuss the heterosexual plague, herpes? 15 to 20
percent of the heterosexual adult population has the Herpes Simplex II
virus, and up to 75% have been exposed to Herpes I. Thanks to the
hets screwing like mink in the seventies. That's not even going into
the explosion in "traditional" STDs during the same period.
Herpes doesn't often kill people...
Had Patient Zero been a straight man, we'd probably have a cure
already.
Oh gawd, spare me your whines about being such a victim.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
02 Jun 2006 07:50:27 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Fri, 02 Jun 2006
06:02:40 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
...and you guys are also pretty significant in spreading the very
reason that the term "safe sex" was ever coined. Thank you very much
for that one.
Are you going to thank the IV drug users and Haitian imigrants as
well? They were the other main vectors in the US.
Oh yeah, much thanks to all the spreaders of aids..
You act like it was intentional. For the first few years of the
pandemic, no one even knew how the disease was spread, or what was
causing it. It wasn't until HIV was identified that things began to
get clear.
As for "you guys", I'm not one of them. In fact, I'm pretty asexual
these days. But even in my prime I was pretty much straight. (Antonio
Bandaras being a prime exception.. drool...)
Pretty much?????
I'll admit to finding some men attractive, and have experimented some
in the past.
And shall we discuss the heterosexual plague, herpes? 15 to 20
percent of the heterosexual adult population has the Herpes Simplex II
virus, and up to 75% have been exposed to Herpes I. Thanks to the
hets screwing like mink in the seventies. That's not even going into
the explosion in "traditional" STDs during the same period.
Herpes doesn't often kill people...
No, it just leaves them blind, shortens life spans, and can cause
birth defects.
Had Patient Zero been a straight man, we'd probably have a cure
already.
Oh gawd, spare me your whines about being such a victim.
Ever hear of Legionnaire's Disease? Struck a bunch of white men.
Compare the early funding on that disease to the early funding for
GRID/AIDS.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
02 Jun 2006 09:47:57 AM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:eqc082lq3st2at1db3jkug08f0ec702o00@4ax.com...
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Fri, 02 Jun 2006
06:02:40 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
snip
Herpes doesn't often kill people...
No, it just leaves them blind, shortens life spans, and can cause
birth defects.
Um, I know about the birth defects, but gotta disagree with you on the first
two. I've never heard of such a thing and have two friends with Herpes.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "nevermore" |
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| Title: Re: Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
02 Jun 2006 08:11:42 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:50:27 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Fri, 02 Jun 2006
06:02:40 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
...and you guys are also pretty significant in spreading the very
reason that the term "safe sex" was ever coined. Thank you very much
for that one.
Are you going to thank the IV drug users and Haitian imigrants as
well? They were the other main vectors in the US.
Oh yeah, much thanks to all the spreaders of aids..
You act like it was intentional. For the first few years of the
pandemic, no one even knew how the disease was spread, or what was
causing it. It wasn't until HIV was identified that things began to
get clear.
As for "you guys", I'm not one of them. In fact, I'm pretty asexual
these days. But even in my prime I was pretty much straight. (Antonio
Bandaras being a prime exception.. drool...)
Pretty much?????
I'll admit to finding some men attractive, and have experimented some
in the past.
So you're a fairy...
And shall we discuss the heterosexual plague, herpes? 15 to 20
percent of the heterosexual adult population has the Herpes Simplex II
virus, and up to 75% have been exposed to Herpes I. Thanks to the
hets screwing like mink in the seventies. That's not even going into
the explosion in "traditional" STDs during the same period.
Herpes doesn't often kill people...
No, it just leaves them blind, shortens life spans, and can cause
birth defects.
Herpes doesn't often kill people...
Had Patient Zero been a straight man, we'd probably have a cure
already.
Oh gawd, spare me your whines about being such a victim.
Ever hear of Legionnaire's Disease? Struck a bunch of white men.
Compare the early funding on that disease to the early funding for
GRID/AIDS.
Oh yeah, it's society's fault that people get aids... ..shirk any
senses of responsibility, that's the leftist way.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Moscow's First Gay Pride Parade Disrupted by Police and Hecklers |
03 Jun 2006 11:22:42 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Fri, 02 Jun 2006
21:11:42 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:50:27 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> posting the following on Fri, 02 Jun 2006
06:02:40 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
As for "you guys", I'm not one of them. In fact, I'm pretty asexual
these days. But even in my prime I was pretty much straight. (Antonio
Bandaras being a prime exception.. drool...)
Pretty much?????
I'll admit to finding some men attractive, and have experimented some
in the past.
So you're a fairy...
No, I'm a trucker.
Herpes doesn't often kill people...
No, it just leaves them blind, shortens life spans, and can cause
birth defects.
Herpes doesn't often kill people...
You're reating yourself. These days AIDs doesn't kill that quickly. I
know people who have been living with AIDS for close to twenty years.
Ever hear of Legionnaire's Disease? Struck a bunch of white men.
Compare the early funding on that disease to the early funding for
GRID/AIDS.
Oh yeah, it's society's fault that people get aids... ..shirk any
senses of responsibility, that's the leftist way.
I didn't say that. I was comparing the response to two outbreaks of an
unkonwn, fatal disease. One hit a community that was largely shunned
and considered tainted. It was pretty much ignored until it spread to
the general population. The other hit a group of respected members of
the majority. It became a national priority overnight.
Here's a quiz: Name the drug that holds the record for the fastest
approval for human use in FDA history.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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