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"John D.Wentzky" |
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13 Dec 2006 12:21:59 AM |
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Moslem execution of women they rape. |
That vaunted Moslem morality?????????
LOL!
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
13 Dec 2006 11:19:28 PM |
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John D.Wentzky wrote:
That vaunted Moslem morality?????????
LOL!
The race between your idiocy and your hypocrisy proceeds apace. You're
criticizing Moslem extremists for doing something YOU approve of.
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
14 Dec 2006 03:30:43 AM |
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<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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John D.Wentzky wrote:
That vaunted Moslem morality?????????
LOL!
The race between your idiocy and your hypocrisy proceeds apace. You're
criticizing Moslem extremists for doing something YOU approve of.
False.
I do not approve of executing women rape victims.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
14 Dec 2006 10:39:56 PM |
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John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
John D.Wentzky wrote:
That vaunted Moslem morality?????????
LOL!
The race between your idiocy and your hypocrisy proceeds apace. You're
criticizing Moslem extremists for doing something YOU approve of.
False.
I do not approve of executing women rape victims.
Oh, don't be so modest, Wanksky. You approve of killing all sorts of
people for all sorts of reasons.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
15 Dec 2006 07:54:37 AM |
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wrote:
John D.Wentzky wrote:
< > wrote...
The race between your idiocy and your hypocrisy proceeds apace. You're
criticizing Moslem extremists for doing something YOU approve of.
False.
I do not approve of executing women rape victims.
Oh, don't be so modest, Wanksky. You approve of killing all sorts of
people for all sorts of reasons.
That may be.
But does he approve of a law that says that a woman shouldn't bother
trying to bring rape charges - because if she doesn't have four male
witnesses, she will just get herself executed for adultery?
Does ANYONE approve of that kind of law - except for those Muslims who
believe that God commands it?
John Savard
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
15 Dec 2006 08:30:53 AM |
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wrote:
spartakus@my-deja.com wrote:
John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
The race between your idiocy and your hypocrisy proceeds apace. You're
criticizing Moslem extremists for doing something YOU approve of.
False.
I do not approve of executing women rape victims.
Oh, don't be so modest, Wanksky. You approve of killing all sorts of
people for all sorts of reasons.
That may be.
But does he approve of a law that says that a woman shouldn't bother
trying to bring rape charges - because if she doesn't have four male
witnesses, she will just get herself executed for adultery?
I don't think he approves of rape charges at all, IIRC. If she dOES get
raped, she should get pregnant, wait it out and die quietly in childbirth.
Does ANYONE approve of that kind of law - except for those Muslims who
believe that God commands it?
Well, yes. It's in the Bible.
Yes, the Judeo-Christian one.
Yes, that one.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
Only Christians don't do anything so kind as execute them, they are
commanded to marry her to her rapist, so that he can rape her repeatedly
for the rest of her life.
Unless she's engaged already. Then it's her fault for not putting up
enough of a fuss.
Then they kill her.
Nice folks.
Any further questions?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
16 Dec 2006 04:09:15 AM |
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--sexkitten-- wrote:
Any further questions?
Yes. Do you have any examples of Jewish or Christian ruled countries
where those laws are put into practice at the present day?
Despite a recent controversy, even Italy hardly comes close.
John Savard
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
16 Dec 2006 04:36:09 AM |
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wrote:
--sexkitten-- wrote:
Any further questions?
Yes. Do you have any examples of Jewish or Christian ruled countries
where those laws are put into practice at the present day?
No, but then Christians aren't known for actually following their Bible
if it's either inconvenient or makes them look bad.
They *will* go out of their way to torment a rape victim as much as
possible, though- witness the controversy over EC for rape victims, the
stance of most churches on abortion for rape victims, the fairly recent
illegality of marital rape, the cover-ups of rapist/pedophiles in the
Catholic Church, the general "blame the victim" attitude that prevails
in highly publicized cases, and the only recent demise of the victims'
sexual history being allowed in the courtroom.
It's as close as Christians can come to what they'd like to do with rape
victims (and what the Bible orders them to do with rape victims) and
still pretend they're better than "that other religion". They're not.
They just lie more about it.
Despite a recent controversy, even Italy hardly comes close.
John Savard
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
16 Dec 2006 09:00:26 PM |
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--sexkitten-- wrote:
It's as close as Christians can come to what they'd like to do with rape
victims (and what the Bible orders them to do with rape victims) and
still pretend they're better than "that other religion". They're not.
They just lie more about it.
I don't think you've proven your case about how Christians think.
You've proven that the Bible couldn't possibly be the Word of God, but
that is a different subject.
John Savard
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
16 Dec 2006 09:14:38 PM |
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<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
--sexkitten-- wrote:
It's as close as Christians can come to what they'd like to do with rape
victims (and what the Bible orders them to do with rape victims) and
still pretend they're better than "that other religion". They're not.
They just lie more about it.
I don't think you've proven your case about how Christians think.
"How"?!?
"If"!
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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16 Dec 2006 09:05:39 PM |
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--sexkitten-- wrote:
It's as close as Christians can come to what they'd like to do with rape
victims (and what the Bible orders them to do with rape victims) and
still pretend they're better than "that other religion". They're not.
They just lie more about it.
I don't think you've proven your case about how Christians think.
Really? What part did I miss?
You've proven that the Bible couldn't possibly be the Word of God, but
that is a different subject.
Finally, something we agree on.
John Savard
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| User: "Robert" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
17 Dec 2006 12:43:47 PM |
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On 16 Dec 2006 19:00:26 -0800, wrote:
--sexkitten-- wrote:
It's as close as Christians can come to what they'd like to do with rape
victims (and what the Bible orders them to do with rape victims) and
still pretend they're better than "that other religion". They're not.
They just lie more about it.
I don't think you've proven your case about how Christians think.
Seems to me that she has done a damn good job of describing the mind
set of the minority of small brained self righteous bigots, that want
to restore the Bible as the law of the land.
You've proven that the Bible couldn't possibly be the Word of God, but
that is a different subject.
The real subject should be does a God exist, and if so what does he
expect of man.
John Savard
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Koppe74" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
16 Dec 2006 06:25:50 AM |
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wrote:
--sexkitten-- wrote:
Any further questions?
Yes. Do you have any examples of Jewish or Christian ruled countries
where those laws are put into practice at the present day?
Many people on this group, wants to bring back "Christian Values"
to the society, to combat what you presives as moral decay...
*These are* examples of these "values"... how the people *you*
want to model our society on, solved the problems you think
"Christian Values" would solve. "Getting raped is imoral... I know
what we can do; lets force the victim to marry her rapiest! That
way she won't be "sleeping around" -- Problem solved!"
Even more interesting is how the *same people* condemns Muslims
for running *their* society based on a strict conservative
interpertation
of *their* religious book -- and directly basing their laws on this
book. The laws outlined in the Old Testament -- stoning disobedient
sons, homosexuals, adulterals, farmers (for planting different crops
side-by-side) and people wearing clothes from two threads -- aren't
any better than Sharia.
Most Christian have a more laid-back approach to their religion, and
*that* is probably what has prevented moder democracies from
using the Bible in their laws directly. Of course it's not always been
that way, it's not *that* long ago since heritics and "witches" were
burned -- or travisties like the "Salem Witch Trials"... and
concidering
we have had about 600 years headstart on the Muslims...
Take my country; Norway. According to our Constitution; we have
a Protestantic State Religion... Our Head of State -- the King --
*must*
bow to that religion... more than half of our Cabinet must bow to it...
Cabinet-members not members of the Church, must excuse themselves
when the Cabinet deals with Church-matters... our laws shall be
based on "Christian Values" (which haven't prevented limited right to
abortion on demand, homosexual priests and bonding-cermonies
for homosexuals)... parents brought-up in the Faith, are obliged to
raise their children in the same faith (this was amended in 1965 to
also include "Freedom of Religion", which pretty much voided it)...
My point is, if we had been more hung-up about our religion and
"interperted"
"Christian Values" to be more in accordance to what is actually
*written* in
the Bible, then stoning homosexuals wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
Mixing Religion and Politics -- and letting Religion dictates how a
country should be run -- is a *very bad* thing... so it puzzels me why
so many wants to do just that -- especially when they at the same
time are so critcal of regimes like Saudi-Arabia and Iran.
-Koppe
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
16 Dec 2006 08:58:59 PM |
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Koppe74 wrote:
Mixing Religion and Politics -- and letting Religion dictates how a
country should be run -- is a *very bad* thing... so it puzzels me why
so many wants to do just that -- especially when they at the same
time are so critcal of regimes like Saudi-Arabia and Iran.
It doesn't puzzle me at all.
The people who want to run the United States in accordance with the
Bible believe the Bible *really is* the Word of God. Since they also
believe that the Quran is *not* God's Word, but only a counterfeit,
they are perfectly consistent in condemning Sa'udi Arabia or Iran.
John Savard
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| User: "Koppe" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
17 Dec 2006 05:49:53 AM |
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wrote:
Koppe74 wrote:
Mixing Religion and Politics -- and letting Religion dictates how a
country should be run -- is a *very bad* thing... so it puzzels me why
so many wants to do just that -- especially when they at the same
time are so critcal of regimes like Saudi-Arabia and Iran.
It doesn't puzzle me at all.
Not really me either...
The people who want to run the United States in accordance with the
Bible believe the Bible *really is* the Word of God. Since they also
believe that the Quran is *not* God's Word, but only a counterfeit,
they are perfectly consistent in condemning Sa'udi Arabia or Iran.
Perhaps the Quran is a fake, but if it is, it's fake
heavely inspired and buildt upon -- if not directly
stolen -- from the Bible. The attitude towards
women is the same... The Sharia-laws and the
laws/rules listed in the first part of the Bible, are
certainly written in the same "spirit" -- ordering
hash, inhumane and barbaric punishment for
the smallest infraction... and often allowing
the possibility of worming ones way out of
other serious crimes at great cost to the victim
(like marrying a rape-victim).
I would think it ought to flash several red-lights
for those wanting to re-introduce "Christian
Values" to American law, when they look at
the uinjustices following a *fake* -- but
disturbingly similar -- book have caused.
They should also look into the laws as
they were practiced in Europe during the Dark
Ages.
-Koppe
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
13 Dec 2006 01:04:57 AM |
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John D.Wentzky wrote:
That vaunted Moslem morality?????????
LOL!
I thought you were in favor of a) killing people you don't like and b)
killing raped women. Why then would it bother you when a Muslim follows
your ideals?
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
13 Dec 2006 07:49:03 AM |
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"--sexkitten--" <jumpingbeanaz_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v8idnS-o2dSBO-LYnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@giganews.com...
John D.Wentzky wrote:
That vaunted Moslem morality?????????
LOL!
I thought you were in favor of a) killing people you don't like and b)
killing raped women. Why then would it bother you when a Muslim follows
your ideals?
Those aren't my ideals.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
13 Dec 2006 09:38:43 AM |
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John D.Wentzky wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <jumpingbeanaz_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v8idnS-o2dSBO-LYnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@giganews.com...
John D.Wentzky wrote:
That vaunted Moslem morality?????????
LOL!
I thought you were in favor of a) killing people you don't like and b)
killing raped women. Why then would it bother you when a Muslim follows
your ideals?
Those aren't my ideals.
They are the ideals that you post to Usenet. If they differ from your
actual ideals, don't post them. See how easy that is?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Moslem execution of women they rape. |
13 Dec 2006 06:24:12 AM |
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--sexkitten-- <jumpingbeanaz_nospam@hotmail.com> writes:
John D.Wentzky wrote:
That vaunted Moslem morality?????????
LOL!
I thought you were in favor of a) killing people you don't like and b) killing
raped women. Why then would it bother you when a Muslim follows your ideals?
He wants the monopoly on that.
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Omaha 4, Houston 3 (SO) (December 9)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 13 vs. Manitoba, 7:05
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