Science > Abortion > MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims.
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"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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30 Apr 2006 10:32:22 AM |
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MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape
and incest victims.
Therefore, they ADMIT that reproductive-process
entities are NOT people!
(And then the Anti-Choicers wonder *why* most
of society regards them to be dumber than a sack of
hammers. And recognizer that RRR Cultists comprise
America's National Laughingstock.)
LOL!! RRR cultists... What a collection of nitwits!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
09 May 2006 11:33:13 AM |
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G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
It's not a game and you cannot "win". I have facts but as I have said
before
I choose not to waste those facts on atheistic, baby killing morons.
By claiming that we are "atheistic, baby killing morons" you prove
that you have no regard for the Bible and God's commandments, because
false witness is a grave sin but one you feel free to disregard.
And apparently you think that you are sinless enough to Judge me?
What a rank hypocrite you are.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
10 May 2006 10:56:39 AM |
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 21:51:50 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
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There
are many scriptures (which pro-abortionists ignor), that do indicated that
abortion (aka murder) is not in keeping with God's law.
The absense of direct scriptural references mean that your statement
is an opinion and so saying that the bible does not forbid abortion is
simply a statement of fact.
Like I said, if you think the bible forbids abortion then produce the
passage.
You can say it but that doesn't mean that I have to comply with your
demands. I'm not about to waste my time talking to a knucklehead who doesn't
think God exists anyway.
Then why are you spewing your hatred in atheist news groups?
You address a bunch of "knuckle heads" that any simple minded fool
would know wasn't going to accept orders from any self righteous
bigots. Then whine like a spoiled brat because we will not allow you
to control them. You are a incredibly stupid Christian bigot.
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
08 May 2006 03:31:40 PM |
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 18:58:31 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
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The biblical God also laid down some pretty strict conditions for what was
to be considered murder, and abortion wasn't one of them.
In fact, the only punishment for striking a pregnant woman and causing her
to miscarry was a fine.
You cafeteria Christians ought to read your own book, sometime.
...and you godless unbelivers ought to quit misquoting the bible and using
it out of context too.
Actually it's you believers that misquote, use out of context, and
ignore the Bible when it doesn't agree with your bigotry.
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
08 May 2006 03:28:12 PM |
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 09:19:49 -0700, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_twospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
No, the bible says that murder is wrong, so God says it.
The biblical God also laid down some pretty strict conditions for what
was to be considered murder, and abortion wasn't one of them.
In fact, the only punishment for striking a pregnant woman and causing
her to miscarry was a fine.
You cafeteria Christians ought to read your own book, sometime.
Can you cite book chapter and verse? I would love to add that to my
collection of Bible verses.
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--sexkitten--
In war, truth is the first casualty.
-Aeschylus
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
09 May 2006 12:13:22 AM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> writes:
"robpar" <robpar@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 09:19:49 -0700, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_twospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
No, the bible says that murder is wrong, so God says it.
The biblical God also laid down some pretty strict conditions for what was
to be considered murder, and abortion wasn't one of them. In fact, the
only punishment for striking a pregnant woman and causing her to miscarry
was a fine. You cafeteria Christians ought to read your own book,
sometime.
Can you cite book chapter and verse? I would love to add that to my
collection of Bible verses.
What would be the point? You don't believe in God or the bible anyway. You
don't believe in right or wrong, good or bad either. Besides, you
pro-abortionists all claim to be so "intelligent" and wise why would you
need some pro-lifer to show you anything.
Your admission of inability to prove your own bellowing is noted.
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 7, Houston 4 (May 7)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, May 9 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35 (Game 4)
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
08 May 2006 01:54:58 PM |
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 13:44:48 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote
Whether the pond scum that is pushing this abortion thing like it or
not,
there is absolute truth.
Do you support exceptions for rape and incest victims? How about
pregnant children or cases where the woman's health is put in
jeopardy?
Another mature adult, thank heavens!
Compared to Ray Fischer a zygote is a mature adult.
The short answer? I don't know how you deal with all of the intricacies
of this issue. Abortion is wrong, I've said that already but whether
there are certain instances where although wrong, it's the best answer
I
cannot honestly say. It may be that abortion should not be legal
excepting in certain circumstances and with mitigating circumstances. I
just dislike the way the law (or lack thereof), is currently.
Based on what you just told me I would say that you are not accurately
presenting your position by calling abortion "absolute wrong".
Personally
I have almost invariably found it to be a mistake to refer to anything
as
absolute, life is very seldom black and white.
Read the above again. "Absolute wrong" are your words not mine. But,
abortion is absolutely wrong no matter what.
Says who?
Some arrogant, self-righteous and hate-filled *****?
No, the bible says that murder is wrong, so God says it. If you would like
to call God the above names, be my guest. Otherwise, save your ignorant
comments and profanity for the low lifes you hang out with.
I save my intelligent comments for intelligent people. It's the low
life ***** holes like you that gets the profanity.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
09 May 2006 12:12:14 AM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> writes:
"robpar" <robpar@airmail.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 13:44:48 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
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Read the above again. "Absolute wrong" are your words not mine. But,
abortion is absolutely wrong no matter what.
Says who?
Some arrogant, self-righteous and hate-filled *****?
No, the bible says that murder is wrong, so God says it. If you would like
to call God the above names, be my guest. Otherwise, save your ignorant
comments and profanity for the low lifes you hang out with.
I save my intelligent comments for intelligent people. It's the low
life ***** holes like you that gets the profanity.
You wouldn't know what an intelligent conversation was because you've never
had one. All you know is profanity and lies because that is your language.
So, how long will it take for you to proclaim that no one in Texas is
intelligent enough to carry on a conversation with you? (After all, you
posted this in response to a fellow Texan.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 7, Houston 4 (May 7)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, May 9 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35 (Game 4)
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
05 May 2006 03:11:41 PM |
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On Fri, 05 May 2006 19:42:15 GMT, "G-Net"
<netnerve@verizon.net> spake thusly:
Do you support exceptions for rape and incest victims?
How about pregnant children or cases where the woman's
health is put in jeopardy?
Another mature adult, thank heavens!
The short answer? I don't know how you deal with
all of the intricacies of this issue. Abortion is wrong,
I've said that already but whether there are certain
instances where although wrong, it's the best answer,
I cannot honestly say. It may be that abortion should
not be legal excepting in certain circumstances and
with mitigating circumstances.
It seems to me, that to claim that abortion is okay
in cases of rape and incest, for example, is to say
that the child should be punished for the crime
of another. Why are we punishing the baby, for
the crime of the rapist? Since when is it proper
to do that?
Just something for you to think about. :)
As for issues of the mother's health, those who support
abortion love to include everything in that, such as if
she seems a bit depressed, it's a "health issue".
When we are dealing with a case of the mother's life
actually being in jeopardy (and I mean real jeopardy),
then they something to talk about. A person is going
to die anyway, whether it is the mother, or the child
and at that point, it is a decision for the parents
to make.
In the case of children being pregnant, it would again
depend on being able to live through it, as far as I'm
concerned. Again, I just can't see murdering a baby,
because we don't like what happened. (:
And in any of these cases, there is adoption, if the
baby is not wanted. But it certainly is not an option
to murder the baby, because it is not wanted. This
is not a pet fly we're talking about here. :)
These are my views, anyway.
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
In the beginning, God created...
And He did it in six days and said He did it in six
days (Exodus 20:11). Jesus believed that and
referenced it, in Matthew 19:3-8 and in other places.
The original Hebrew word for "day" ("yom"), is never
used to mean anything but a literal day in the Bible,
when a numerical adjective is present ("second, third,
etc.). Are we to believe that this is somehow the
one exception?
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| User: "Dutch" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
05 May 2006 09:45:50 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 May 2006 19:42:15 GMT, "G-Net"
<netnerve@verizon.net> spake thusly:
Do you support exceptions for rape and incest victims?
How about pregnant children or cases where the woman's
health is put in jeopardy?
Another mature adult, thank heavens!
The short answer? I don't know how you deal with
all of the intricacies of this issue. Abortion is wrong,
I've said that already but whether there are certain
instances where although wrong, it's the best answer,
I cannot honestly say. It may be that abortion should
not be legal excepting in certain circumstances and
with mitigating circumstances.
It seems to me, that to claim that abortion is okay
in cases of rape and incest, for example, is to say
that the child should be punished for the crime
of another. Why are we punishing the baby, for
the crime of the rapist? Since when is it proper
to do that?
Just something for you to think about. :)
It's not punishing a baby, it's removing the consequences of a violent
crime.
As for issues of the mother's health, those who support
abortion love to include everything in that, such as if
she seems a bit depressed, it's a "health issue".
It's not your place to judge how serious her anguish might be over such a
predicament.
When we are dealing with a case of the mother's life
actually being in jeopardy (and I mean real jeopardy),
then they something to talk about. A person is going
to die anyway, whether it is the mother, or the child
and at that point, it is a decision for the parents
to make.
In the case of children being pregnant, it would again
depend on being able to live through it, as far as I'm
concerned. Again, I just can't see murdering a baby,
because we don't like what happened. (:
And in any of these cases, there is adoption, if the
baby is not wanted. But it certainly is not an option
to murder the baby, because it is not wanted. This
is not a pet fly we're talking about here. :)
These are my views, anyway.
Have you ever been in the situation yourself?
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| User: "G-Net" |
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05 May 2006 03:49:38 PM |
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It's true the there are those in society who will use whatever "loophole",
stretching of the truth, or perspective just to name a few that they can use
to "justify" an abortion. That's why I support a law that is restrictive,
has accountability, and is enforced where abortion is concerned.
Wherever there is a law, someone will break it. Wherever there is a rule,
someone will find a way around it. Wherever there is a regulation, someone
will find a loophole that they can slither through. This is the nature of
the beast.
"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:unbn525321shs6eh3g221metul662gakeu@4ax.com...
On Fri, 05 May 2006 19:42:15 GMT, "G-Net"
<netnerve@verizon.net> spake thusly:
Do you support exceptions for rape and incest victims?
How about pregnant children or cases where the woman's
health is put in jeopardy?
Another mature adult, thank heavens!
The short answer? I don't know how you deal with
all of the intricacies of this issue. Abortion is wrong,
I've said that already but whether there are certain
instances where although wrong, it's the best answer,
I cannot honestly say. It may be that abortion should
not be legal excepting in certain circumstances and
with mitigating circumstances.
It seems to me, that to claim that abortion is okay
in cases of rape and incest, for example, is to say
that the child should be punished for the crime
of another. Why are we punishing the baby, for
the crime of the rapist? Since when is it proper
to do that?
Just something for you to think about. :)
As for issues of the mother's health, those who support
abortion love to include everything in that, such as if
she seems a bit depressed, it's a "health issue".
When we are dealing with a case of the mother's life
actually being in jeopardy (and I mean real jeopardy),
then they something to talk about. A person is going
to die anyway, whether it is the mother, or the child
and at that point, it is a decision for the parents
to make.
In the case of children being pregnant, it would again
depend on being able to live through it, as far as I'm
concerned. Again, I just can't see murdering a baby,
because we don't like what happened. (:
And in any of these cases, there is adoption, if the
baby is not wanted. But it certainly is not an option
to murder the baby, because it is not wanted. This
is not a pet fly we're talking about here. :)
These are my views, anyway.
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
In the beginning, God created...
And He did it in six days and said He did it in six
days (Exodus 20:11). Jesus believed that and
referenced it, in Matthew 19:3-8 and in other places.
The original Hebrew word for "day" ("yom"), is never
used to mean anything but a literal day in the Bible,
when a numerical adjective is present ("second, third,
etc.). Are we to believe that this is somehow the
one exception?
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| User: "Dutch" |
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05 May 2006 10:23:43 PM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote
It's true the there are those in society who will use whatever "loophole",
stretching of the truth, or perspective just to name a few that they can
use to "justify" an abortion. That's why I support a law that is
restrictive, has accountability, and is enforced where abortion is
concerned.
Wherever there is a law, someone will break it. Wherever there is a rule,
someone will find a way around it. Wherever there is a regulation, someone
will find a loophole that they can slither through. This is the nature of
the beast.
You do not have a realistic perspective on the abortion issue, you have an
idealistic or moralistic one. Women HAVE always, and WILL always get
abortions. This is the same kind of thinking that has resulted in
prohibitions on drugs. People HAVE always and WILL always use substances to
alter their perceptions. It simply is stupid to attempt to use the law to
control these kinds of activities.
"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:unbn525321shs6eh3g221metul662gakeu@4ax.com...
On Fri, 05 May 2006 19:42:15 GMT, "G-Net"
<netnerve@verizon.net> spake thusly:
Do you support exceptions for rape and incest victims?
How about pregnant children or cases where the woman's
health is put in jeopardy?
Another mature adult, thank heavens!
The short answer? I don't know how you deal with
all of the intricacies of this issue. Abortion is wrong,
I've said that already but whether there are certain
instances where although wrong, it's the best answer,
I cannot honestly say. It may be that abortion should
not be legal excepting in certain circumstances and
with mitigating circumstances.
It seems to me, that to claim that abortion is okay
in cases of rape and incest, for example, is to say
that the child should be punished for the crime
of another. Why are we punishing the baby, for
the crime of the rapist? Since when is it proper
to do that?
Just something for you to think about. :)
As for issues of the mother's health, those who support
abortion love to include everything in that, such as if
she seems a bit depressed, it's a "health issue".
When we are dealing with a case of the mother's life
actually being in jeopardy (and I mean real jeopardy),
then they something to talk about. A person is going
to die anyway, whether it is the mother, or the child
and at that point, it is a decision for the parents
to make.
In the case of children being pregnant, it would again
depend on being able to live through it, as far as I'm
concerned. Again, I just can't see murdering a baby,
because we don't like what happened. (:
And in any of these cases, there is adoption, if the
baby is not wanted. But it certainly is not an option
to murder the baby, because it is not wanted. This
is not a pet fly we're talking about here. :)
These are my views, anyway.
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
In the beginning, God created...
And He did it in six days and said He did it in six
days (Exodus 20:11). Jesus believed that and
referenced it, in Matthew 19:3-8 and in other places.
The original Hebrew word for "day" ("yom"), is never
used to mean anything but a literal day in the Bible,
when a numerical adjective is present ("second, third,
etc.). Are we to believe that this is somehow the
one exception?
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
06 May 2006 08:34:14 AM |
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote
It's true the there are those in society who will use whatever
"loophole", stretching of the truth, or perspective just to name a few
that they can use to "justify" an abortion. That's why I support a law
that is restrictive, has accountability, and is enforced where abortion
is concerned.
Wherever there is a law, someone will break it. Wherever there is a rule,
someone will find a way around it. Wherever there is a regulation,
someone will find a loophole that they can slither through. This is the
nature of the beast.
You do not have a realistic perspective on the abortion issue, you have an
idealistic or moralistic one. Women HAVE always, and WILL always get
abortions. This is the same kind of thinking that has resulted in
prohibitions on drugs. People HAVE always and WILL always use substances
to alter their perceptions. It simply is stupid to attempt to use the law
to control these kinds of activities.
There isn't a law on the books that hasn't been broken on MANY occasions. So
what you are saying is that we should do away with laws and law enforcement
altogether because people are just going to disobey them anyway. This is a
poor reason for legalizing anything. By your logic we should do away with
anything that might imping upon someone else's rights. Pornography of any
kind should be legal, no traffic laws, no signs, no speed limits, let's just
make it a lawless society because after all, we cannot prevent someone from
break the law anyway.
Why not open up our borders and let ANYONE come into the country at any
time? After all, we can't protect our borders. So what if a terrorist comes
in here with a thermonuclear device. It's the same bad logic and it's not in
step with what America stands for or reality either.
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| User: "Dutch" |
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06 May 2006 04:39:02 PM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote
It's true the there are those in society who will use whatever
"loophole", stretching of the truth, or perspective just to name a few
that they can use to "justify" an abortion. That's why I support a law
that is restrictive, has accountability, and is enforced where abortion
is concerned.
Wherever there is a law, someone will break it. Wherever there is a
rule, someone will find a way around it. Wherever there is a regulation,
someone will find a loophole that they can slither through. This is the
nature of the beast.
You do not have a realistic perspective on the abortion issue, you have
an idealistic or moralistic one. Women HAVE always, and WILL always get
abortions. This is the same kind of thinking that has resulted in
prohibitions on drugs. People HAVE always and WILL always use substances
to alter their perceptions. It simply is stupid to attempt to use the law
to control these kinds of activities.
There isn't a law on the books that hasn't been broken on MANY occasions.
So what you are saying is that we should do away with laws and law
enforcement altogether because people are just going to disobey them
anyway. This is a poor reason for legalizing anything. By your logic we
should do away with anything that might imping upon someone else's rights.
Pornography of any kind should be legal, no traffic laws, no signs, no
speed limits, let's just make it a lawless society because after all, we
cannot prevent someone from break the law anyway.
Why not open up our borders and let ANYONE come into the country at any
time? After all, we can't protect our borders. So what if a terrorist
comes in here with a thermonuclear device. It's the same bad logic and
it's not in step with what America stands for or reality either.
No, that's not what I am saying, that is taking my position and
extrapolating it to the absurd. There are many laws that are necessary and
make sense for reasons of public safety and protection of personal rights,
because there are always people who will exploit and harm others for their
own gain, There a few areas however where the law attempts to enforce
morality that simply do not work, at all. I am not arguing that abortion is
right or wrong per se, I am simply reporting that making it illegal simply
does not work, it makes criminals out of decent people. Making drug use
illegal does the same thing, and creates a fertile environment for organized
crime. In order to fully understand why laws against abortion do not work
one needs to be able to see and feel the effects of an unwanted pregnancy
from the perspective of the woman involved. Looking at it from an
ideological perspective is not enough. Many people profess to be pro-life
until they find themselves faced with an unwanted pregnancy.
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
05 May 2006 04:31:02 PM |
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On Fri, 05 May 2006 19:42:15 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
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I would think if the woman's health was positively going to be jeapardized
by giving birth to a child that may be another "special circumstance" that
needs to be considered.
Maybe what I am really saying is that abortion should be the option
of last resort and only done if there are no decent alternatives.
Abortion is the option of last resort, and the women is the only one
qualified to make that judgment. Since the options usually are limited
to suffering through a pregnancy, with possibly fatal results or
aborting. It's the woman choice.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
05 May 2006 10:52:43 PM |
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G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
Whether the pond scum that is pushing this abortion thing like it or not,
The hatred so typical of the anti-choice fanatic.
there is absolute truth. There is moral right and wrong
How would you know? You appear to nothing at all of morality. All
you seem to understand is hate.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "G-Net" |
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06 May 2006 08:57:40 AM |
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You believe in murder of the unborn and think that this is love? Man, I'm
glad you hate me...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
Whether the pond scum that is pushing this abortion thing like it or not,
The hatred so typical of the anti-choice fanatic.
there is absolute truth. There is moral right and wrong
How would you know? You appear to nothing at all of morality. All
you seem to understand is hate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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07 May 2006 02:19:02 PM |
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G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
Whether the pond scum that is pushing this abortion thing like it or not,
The hatred so typical of the anti-choice fanatic.
there is absolute truth. There is moral right and wrong
How would you know? You appear to nothing at all of morality. All
you seem to understand is hate.
You believe in murder of the unborn and think that this is love?
You believe in molesting children and you think you're moral?!?
(See? I can make up crap as easily as can you).
Man, I'm
glad you hate me...
The hate is all yours, prevert.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "BOB" |
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07 May 2006 02:40:48 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:445e4826$0$65494$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
Whether the pond scum that is pushing this abortion thing like it or
not,
The hatred so typical of the anti-choice fanatic.
there is absolute truth. There is moral right and wrong
How would you know? You appear to nothing at all of morality. All
you seem to understand is hate.
You believe in murder of the unborn and think that this is love?
You believe in molesting children and you think you're moral?!?
(See? I can make up crap as easily as can you).
Man, I'm
glad you hate me...
The hate is all yours, prevert.
Perhaps G-String is confusing "hate" with disdain? Not unusual for anti-
choice loons to be confused.
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape and incest victims. |
08 May 2006 08:45:58 AM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns97BC80FD1E277SD@70.169.32.36...
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:445e4826$0$65494$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
Whether the pond scum that is pushing this abortion thing like it or
not,
The hatred so typical of the anti-choice fanatic.
there is absolute truth. There is moral right and wrong
How would you know? You appear to nothing at all of morality. All
you seem to understand is hate.
You believe in murder of the unborn and think that this is love?
You believe in molesting children and you think you're moral?!?
(See? I can make up crap as easily as can you).
Man, I'm
glad you hate me...
The hate is all yours, prevert.
Perhaps G-String is confusing "hate" with disdain? Not unusual for anti-
choice loons to be confused.
Um, no I didn't misinterpret anything. They hate, it's what they do best...
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| User: "BOB" |
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08 May 2006 11:32:17 AM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in
news:qYH7g.4827$IL2.938@trnddc04:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97BC80FD1E277SD@70.169.32.36...
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:445e4826$0$65494$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
Whether the pond scum that is pushing this abortion thing like it
or not,
The hatred so typical of the anti-choice fanatic.
there is absolute truth. There is moral right and wrong
How would you know? You appear to nothing at all of morality.
All you seem to understand is hate.
You believe in murder of the unborn and think that this is love?
You believe in molesting children and you think you're moral?!?
(See? I can make up crap as easily as can you).
Man, I'm
glad you hate me...
The hate is all yours, prevert.
Perhaps G-String is confusing "hate" with disdain? Not unusual for
anti- choice loons to be confused.
Um, no I didn't misinterpret anything. They hate, it's what they do
best...
"They"? By "they", you must mean the anti-choice loons like yourself, G-
String,
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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08 May 2006 01:20:46 PM |
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 16:32:17 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> spake
thusly:
Man, I'm glad you hate me...
The hate is all yours, prevert.
Perhaps G-String is confusing "hate" with disdain?
Not unusual for anti- choice loons to be confused.
Um, no I didn't misinterpret anything. They hate,
it's what they do best...
"They"? By "they", you must mean the anti-choice loons
like yourself, G-String,
Look at what a genius this fellow is! I mean,
if everyone could be as smart, logical and as
intellectual as this person has been, then the
anti-life/pro-abortion cause would totally
destroy the opposition in a matter of days!
I mean, who can argue with this man's
intellectual prowess?!
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
"Wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in
the world believed that the world was flat? And
up until like what, 50 years ago, you all thought
the atom was the smallest thing, until you split
it open and this like, whole mess of crap came out.
Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably
arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny
tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?"
- Phoebe from Friends, regarding evolution
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| User: "BOB" |
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08 May 2006 01:45:33 PM |
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Pastor Dave <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in
news:co2v52hak3h0u4c43atr8jgoubkjs09es1@4ax.com:
On Mon, 08 May 2006 16:32:17 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> spake
thusly:
Man, I'm glad you hate me...
The hate is all yours, prevert.
Perhaps G-String is confusing "hate" with disdain?
Not unusual for anti- choice loons to be confused.
Um, no I didn't misinterpret anything. They hate,
it's what they do best...
"They"? By "they", you must mean the anti-choice loons
like yourself, G-String,
Look at what a genius this fellow is! I mean,
if everyone could be as smart, logical and as
intellectual as this person has been, then the
anti-life/pro-abortion cause would totally
destroy the opposition in a matter of days!
I mean, who can argue with this man's
intellectual prowess?!
Gee, thanks for the compliments Pester Dave. And all this time I thought
you idiot anti-choice loons didn't like us pro-choice advocates.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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05 May 2006 05:07:18 PM |
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G-Net wrote:
Whether the pond scum that is pushing this abortion thing like it or not,
there is absolute truth.
What, that you are pond scum? I'll have to agree.
There is moral right and wrong and there is good
and bad. Aborting a baby because it's an "unwanted" pregnancy is wrong and
it puts the baby to death.
Um....babies are born. You're talking about two different things.
You can argue the point until donkeys fly, you
can call me whatever you wish, you can get as mad as you want and you can
use whatever profanity your sick mind can concoct. It doesn't change the
absolute truth and it doesn't change what is right and wrong.
And you came out on the "wrong" side of the ledger.
As I said before just because something isn't against the law at this point
in time doesn't mean in any way, shape, or form that it is morally right. We
have enacted many laws in recent years to outlaw things that were "wrong",
internet pornography laws being one of the hot topic issues. The laws are
being enacted because they are banning something that is wrong. It has
nothing to do with an issue of "control" but an issue of what do we want
this country to be and represent to the world.
We have child labor laws because it's not "right" to work children as
adults. Why? Because it is morally wrong.
We have laws allowing women to have abortions because forcing them to be
pregnant is also morally wrong. It's not our fault your morals are warped.
At some point in time America will
realize that we have let a few godless people do to a whole generation and
abortion will again be illegal. Until that time, I will continue to fight
against abortion and to fight for truthful information instead of the
half-truths and misinformation that the pro-abortion movement has
perpetuated.
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
What planet are you on? (On this one, abortion has not always been
murder -
as a matter of fact, it's been legal for the majority of this country's
history. That's aside from your cognitive dissonance in the face of the
legal
reality that murder isn't legal, but abortion is.)
Legality does not have anything to do with moral right and wrong.
Neither do your hateful screeds have anything to do with moral right
and wrong.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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--sexkitten--
No one can earn a million dollars honestly.
-William Jennings Bryan
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04 May 2006 11:07:29 AM |
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G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You lie. All pregnancies do physical damage. ALL of them.
Um, no I didn't lie but you are. Most of the people I know have kids and
there are doing well.
Most of the women who are raped do well. Eventually.
Rape still causes harm, halfwit.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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04 May 2006 10:18:17 AM |
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G-Net wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You lie. All pregnancies do physical damage. ALL of them.
Um, no I didn't lie but you are. Most of the people I know have kids and
there are doing well.
People have amputations, bypass surgery and liver transplants and "do
well". That doesn't mean damage isn't done.
If you have a fear of pregnancy that's one thing but
it's not relevant to the discussion. Abortion is murder always has been,
always will be.
See? Lie.
He heard it from actual women, not the voices in your head.
Actually I don't hear voices at all. I do know lots of women, most of them
with kids though and that's where I'm getting my information from.
You probably do, but it's not where you're getting your information from.
Incidentally, they are against abortion too. But I would guess that you
don't really care what they think unless they agree with your point of view
huh?
I care. I consider that if they want to have kids, that's their CHOICE
and that's grand. I also consider that they do not have the right to try
to impose their *opinion* on others, and the same applies to you.
--
--sexkitten--
God is dead.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "robpar" |
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04 May 2006 03:26:32 PM |
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On Thu, 04 May 2006 15:01:35 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x-SdnXsr9r9BB8TZRVn_vA@giganews.com...
You lie. All pregnancies do physical damage. ALL of them.
Um, no I didn't lie but you are. Most of the people I know have kids and
there are doing well. If you have a fear of pregnancy that's one thing but
it's not relevant to the discussion. Abortion is murder always has been,
always will be.
Abortion is not murder never has been, never will be.
You lied again, I do believe it's very hard for you to not lie.
He heard it from actual women, not the voices in your head.
Actually I don't hear voices at all. I do know lots of women, most of them
with kids though and that's where I'm getting my information from.
Incidentally, they are against abortion too. But I would guess that you
don't really care what they think unless they agree with your point of view
huh?
Pregnancy does cause harm to women, some times even death. But most
women consider having a child is worth the risk. I also know many
women, most have children, some have had abortions, before and after
having children. I know a few that were unable to have a child and
have adopted. One of my aunts never had a child and did not qualify
to adopt. She was a very popular baby sitter/foster mom.
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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02 May 2006 05:11:38 AM |
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On Tue, 02 May 2006 07:22:27 GMT,
"Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com> wrote:
John Wentzky inanely replied:
"Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape
and incest victims.
Therefore, they ADMIT that reproductive-process
entities are NOT people!
Non-sequitur.
No, actually. If a fetus [were] a person, then aborting
a rape/incest fetus [would be] murder.
It'll be interesting to watch and see if he GETS it this time.
(And then the Anti-Choicers wonder *why* most
of society regards them to be dumber than a sack of
hammers. And recognizer that RRR Cultists comprise
America's National Laughingstock.)
LOL!! RRR cultists... What a collection of nitwits!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Bill" |
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30 Apr 2006 10:43:05 AM |
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"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape
and incest victims.
How about failed condoms and other birth control devices???
Should someone suffer for 20 years because they made some mistake or error?
Therefore, they ADMIT that reproductive-process
entities are NOT people!
(And then the Anti-Choicers wonder *why* most
of society regards them to be dumber than a sack of
hammers. And recognizer that RRR Cultists comprise
America's National Laughingstock.)
LOL!! RRR cultists... What a collection of nitwits!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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30 Apr 2006 02:41:24 PM |
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Bill wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape
and incest victims.
How about failed condoms and other birth control devices???
Should someone suffer for 20 years because they made some mistake or error?
You are against incarciraiting murderers who "made the mistake" of
murdering someone? Personally, I think they should suffer in prison for
20 to life.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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30 Apr 2006 02:45:00 PM |
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<> wrote:
Bill wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:35m952hd2a5qnnb7jheqtmp7m6pqg0svus@4ax.com...
MOST Anti-Choicers support exceptions for rape
and incest victims.
How about failed condoms and other birth control devices???
Should someone suffer for 20 years because they made some mistake or error?
You are against incarciraiting murderers who "made the mistake" of
murdering someone?
You don't read very well, do you?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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