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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "words of truth"
Date: 25 Jan 2006 04:43:27 PM
Object: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War
http://www.holyspiritinteractive.net/features/prolife/frank_06.asp
The Ripple Effect of Abortion
by Fr. Frank Pavone
Abortion harms our entire culture in ways we have not even begun to
imagine. We may at times be tempted to think that we are not
individually affected by the fact that others legally abort their
children. But abortion does affect us all, personally and directly,
whether we are aware of it or not.
The pro-life movement has done much to teach the public about the
destructive harm that abortion does to the unborn child. Most people
also have been informed about the negative impact abortion has on
women's health, as a result of the multiple physical and emotional
complications of the procedure. But taking a brief look at the other
circles of destruction brought on by abortion can be an even more
sobering experience.
The Survivors
First of all, what does abortion do to the children who survive?
Psychologists have now discovered "Abortion Survivor Syndrome," a
cluster of symptoms that mimic those of the soldiers who return from
battle, and instead of feeling happy that they survived, feel guilty
and anxious. "Could I have done something to keep my army buddy from
getting killed? Why was it him and not me?"
Dr. Philip Ney, a Canadian expert and child psychiatrist, explains that
children eventually ask, "I was born because mommy wanted me. What if
she stops wanting me?"
The impact of being an abortion survivor should not be ignored as we
try to understand why children shoot other children in schools. We've
taught them to do so when we taught them that their lives were
disposable. Children will not stop killing children until parents stop
killing children.
The prospect that one could have been legally killed by his or her own
parents is also a significant obstacle for our young people to hear the
Gospel message of the Father's unconditional love for them.

From Generation to Generation

Abortion leads to more abortion, as well as to various forms of child
abuse. One of the biggest factors that will determine whether someone
will have an abortion is whether her mother had an abortion. The
reasons have to do with the way abortion affects the maternal bond. It
weakens and distorts it, and a woman who has an abortion faces
obstacles in her relationships with later children she brings to birth.
The act of aborting a child, rather than adjusting to the changes that
childbirth brings, constitutes a failure to mature and a regression in
one's development toward adult responsibility. This failure to mature
is one of the contributing causes of child abuse.
The Helpless Cry
Abortion threatens the survival of the human species itself, because it
introduces a distortion into the human response to the infant's
helpless cry. When a crying baby awakens her parents in the middle of
the night, initial annoyance quickly gives way to tenderness toward the
child in need. The very survival of the species depends on our overall
ability to make that transition. Abortion, by definition, is a
deliberate refusal to hear and respond to the helpless cry.
Dr. Ney writes, "Human response to the helpless cry of their young
will determine if the human species survives. The helpless cry is any
sound or signal that alerts a person that some creature is in distress
and cannot help him/herself . . . Anyone with any humanity in him or
herself must react in one way or another. The helpless cry is an
essential crisis . . . It is an accurate gauge of how human we are as
individuals and how civilized we are collectively. It will determine
whether we become more free, more mature, and more loving, or whether
we become insensitive, dehumanized, and hateful."
Marriage
Abortion destroys marriages and male-female relations generally. The
woman who has aborted a child finds it more difficult to trust the man.
Her relationship with him led to the unspeakable pain of abortion.
Meanwhile, the man finds in abortion an easy way to escape
responsibility for his actions. The fact that the law does not give
fathers a say in whether their own unborn children live or die means
that fathers are less willing to take responsibility for those children
before and after birth, and less willing to bond with them. If they are
not attached to the baby, moreover, they are not as supportive of their
partner.
Government
When our government allowed abortion, it became a different kind of
government than what it was founded to be. There are only two forms of
government. The first acknowledges that God gives us our rights, and
that government exists to secure those rights. In such a framework,
government can't tamper with the right to life, and can never
authorize its destruction.
The second form, however, says that government is the source of those
rights, and therefore has full dominion over life and death. The Pope
comments on this in Evangelium Vitae: "In this way democracy,
contradicting its own principles, effectively moves toward a form of
totalitarianism. The State is no longer the 'common home' where all
can live together on the basis of principles of fundamental equality,
but is transformed into a tyrant State, which arrogates to itself the
right to dispose of the life of the weakest and most defenseless
members. . . . When this happens, the process leading to the breakdown
of a genuinely human coexistence and the disintegration of the State
itself has already begun. . . . This is the death of true freedom"
(no. 20).
Abortion has wrought havoc on our political system, practically
destroying one of our national parties and hijacking the
constitutionally provided method for filling positions on federal
courts.
Other effects in law have been described as "the abortion
distortion." In various states, for example, pro-abortion forces have
begun to shut down avenues of free speech, such as specialty license
plate programs or tow banner advertising, just to prevent the truth of
abortion from being told.
The Church
The well-being of the Church is also at stake because of the abortion
controversy. The more the "ethic" of abortion is embedded in the
laws and practices of society, the more strained are the Church's
relations with government. The Church, after all, must interact with
government leaders on a wide range of programs that serve the people
and advance the Church's interests. But as was painfully evident in
recent controversies over whether pro-abortion politicians should be
allowed to receive Holy Communion or even appear on Church property,
the constant presence of legal abortion-and public officials who are
willing to keep it legal-will provide a source of continued conflict.
At the same time, positions on abortion are reduced, in public
commentary, to "political" positions. Given the fact that many
attorneys who advise the Church give unnecessarily restrictive legal
advice, the bottom line is that there is a chilling effect on the
freedom of the clergy-and others in ministry-to comment on
abortion. This strains the credibility of the Church, as people try to
figure out why more leadership is not evident from the pulpit on what
the bishops themselves have called the most fundamental civil rights
issue of our day.
The Medical Community
Legal abortion distorts the purpose and slows the progress of medicine.
Doctors are being reduced to their pre-Hippocratic oath days when they
were seen as dispensers of both life and death. The inherent link
between the medical profession and the care of life is being denied and
obscured. Moreover, if defects in a child are handled by aborting the
child, motivation to make medical progress in treating such defects is
deterred.
At the same time, if embryos can be destroyed, they can also be
manipulated, experimented on, sold, or combined with other species.
Bioethical oddities of immense proportions aThe fruit of abortion is
nuclear warre on the horizon.
Security
Ultimately, the economy and security of the nation and the world are
threatened by abortion. Destroying 40 million lives in a generation
can't happen without consequences, starting with the aging of the
population, with fewer younger workers supporting the system.
Moreover, how can we maintain peace between nations if we cannot
maintain peace between a mother and her own child? As Mother Teresa
warned, "If we say that a mother can kill her own child, how can we
tell other people not to kill each other? . . . The fruit of abortion
is nuclear war."
We have only skimmed the surface here and have truly not begun to
appreciate the destructive power of abortion. May we, as individuals
and as a society, face up to the truth about abortion and its many
dimensions before it is too late.
.

User: "Dutch"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 05:08:27 PM
"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message
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"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote...

"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote

"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote...


As you recall, I stated that no society that I am aware of has

ever

defined abortion as murder, and none of these source refute that
statement. What is your point?


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040401-3.html


This doesn't refute my statement either. Do you *read* the stuff
you
are linking to?


What exactly is your point? A lot of law indicates that killing a
fetus
in latter stages is the equivalent of murder. A late term abortion is
killing a fetus in latter stages.


These laws explicitly exclude abortion, Dutch. For example, look at
Section 187 of the California Penal Code:

http://members.aol.com/abtrbng/187.htm


*If* the abortion complies under one of the 3 listed stipulations. If
not,
it would be considered murder. And what about other States, other

countries,

are their stipulations all as loose as California's?


The abortion has to comply with the Therapeutic Abortion Act, it has to be
performed by a licensed physician, and the patient has to give her
consent.
That's *loose*?

I used loose as a relative term, relative to other jurisdictions. By that I
mean many jurisdictions include language in law about the stage of the
pregnancy, the availability of abortion restricting in second and third
trimester. That language would make that California statute "loose" by
comparison.
Do us a favor and play your silly word games with the kids

eating dinner at the folding card table.

You made a statement that "no society has *ever* defined abortion as murder.
Your reference to California law was useful, but my follow-up question is
valid. California does not represent *every* jusrisdicion who *ever*
addressed the issue. Do you have similar links to how other states or
countries treat the issue?
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User: "Spartakus"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 10:44:21 AM
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote...

Who put the baby there you dolt?

It's not a baby, it's an embryo, and to answer your question, um, the embryo
put the embryo there.

I don't imagine the careless sex that produced the baby was particualrly
agonizing, and there's a no reason to believe that the baby's death is not
agonizing to the infant.

90% of the time, we are talking about a couple of tablespoons of insentient
tissue which is mostly placenta.

It's murder - believe it or go to hell.

Oh yeah? Well, my god can beat up your god.
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User: "Malcolm"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 06:55:05 PM
"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote


I don't imagine the careless sex that produced the baby was particualrly
agonizing, and there's a no reason to believe that the baby's death is
not
agonizing to the infant.


90% of the time, we are talking about a couple of tablespoons of
insentient
tissue which is mostly placenta.

Firstly, how would you tell whether an entity that can't speak is sentient
or not?
Secondly, would you use that as the criteria for deciding whether abortion
was justifiable or not, or do you think there are other arguments (eg does a
woman have a right to choose whether to carry the baby to term? do deaf
people have the right to block selective abortion of deaf fetuses? does the
state have the right to require that the next generation of solidiers is not
aborted?)
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User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 26 Jan 2006 08:15:48 PM
In article <UhfCf.15193$C%3.1129@bignews2.bellsouth.net>, bam
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:

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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a

couple

of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children
who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term

when

they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?


Never. Fortunately abortion kills no babies.


That's about all abortion does.


I've already explained to you that the fertilised egg has as much chance
of
becoming a mass of one or two types of tissue, such as bone, as it has of
becoming a baby, but you don't want to know this, and, because you have no
answer to it, you ignore it, then repeat the same tired assertions in
other
threads. This makes you a bore as well as a wannabe rapist.

Great logic.


You snipped the paragraph to which I was responding, which was
bemoaning
the
loss of younger workers to support the system. The fact that women who
abort go on to have other children shows that abortion is not the cause

of

fewer younger workers.


Who cares? Abortion is killing.


Clearly you don't care. All you seem to care about is forcing women to
endure the agony of childbirth against their will.


Who put the baby there you dolt?

Then the responsibility is hers, not yours.


I don't imagine the careless sex that produced the baby was particualrly
agonizing, and there's a no reason to believe that the baby's death is not
agonizing to the infant.

So you believe it is?


It's murder - believe it or go to hell.

Nut cases on the Right Wing.
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User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 11:54:26 PM
in article UhfCf.15193$C%3.1129@bignews2.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 1/26/06 9:13 PM:


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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a

couple

of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children
who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term

when

they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?


Never. Fortunately abortion kills no babies.


That's about all abortion does.


I've already explained to you that the fertilised egg has as much chance
of
becoming a mass of one or two types of tissue, such as bone, as it has of
becoming a baby, but you don't want to know this, and, because you have no
answer to it, you ignore it, then repeat the same tired assertions in
other
threads. This makes you a bore as well as a wannabe rapist.

Great logic.


You snipped the paragraph to which I was responding, which was
bemoaning
the
loss of younger workers to support the system. The fact that women who
abort go on to have other children shows that abortion is not the cause

of

fewer younger workers.


Who cares? Abortion is killing.


Clearly you don't care. All you seem to care about is forcing women to
endure the agony of childbirth against their will.


Who put the baby there you dolt?

I don't imagine the careless sex that produced the baby was particualrly
agonizing, and there's a no reason to believe that the baby's death is not
agonizing to the infant.

It's murder - believe it or go to hell.

Ladies - believe it and get stuck under a drunken Bam.
Paul
.

User: "Gringo"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 01:06:41 AM
bam wrote:

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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote


The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a


couple

of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term


when

they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?


Never. Fortunately abortion kills no babies.



That's about all abortion does.




Great logic.


You snipped the paragraph to which I was responding, which was bemoaning
the
loss of younger workers to support the system. The fact that women who
abort go on to have other children shows that abortion is not the cause of
fewer younger workers.



Who cares? Abortion is killing.

BAM


If you people are so anti-killing, why are you so eager to send other
men and women off to war? War is unhealthy for children and other
living things.
--
"Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could still be an occupying
power in a bitterly hostile land."
-- George Bush Sr., 1998
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and
your government when it deserves it."
-- Mark Twain
.
User: "Malcolm"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 06:55:06 PM
"Gringo" <anonymous@nospam.com> wrote


If you people are so anti-killing, why are you so eager to send other men
and women off to war? War is unhealthy for children and other living
things.

Let's say that some political movement argues that fighting is an important
part of being a man.
They obviously have some sort of case.
Therefore, they say, every man has the right to be a soldier.
That's not too unreasonable.
But a soldier in peacetime is not a real soldier, therefore every man has
the right to choose to go to war, and to try to kill an enemy.
This is where the Catholic church would have to condemn them. For serious
reasons, a nation may order its young men into battle and to kill enemies.
But they do not have any sort of right to choose to go to war, simply to
prove their bravery and manhood.
If the movement gained some currency, it might be difficult to argue against
the penultimate point, or even the first one. These are partial truths, but
only partial ones. It is possible to be a fully masculine man without being
a soldier.
.

User: "bam"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 04:52:37 AM
"Gringo" <anonymous@nospam.com> wrote

If you people are so anti-killing, why are you so eager to send other men
and women off to war? War is unhealthy for children and other living
things.

What ever gave you the idea that anti-abortionists are pro war? Didn't you
know that the Pope said that the US invasion in Iraq was unjust?
Now go back home like a good little boy and do your homework.
BAM
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 11:52:26 AM
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:

"Gringo" <anonymous@nospam.com> wrote

If you people are so anti-killing, why are you so eager to send other men
and women off to war? War is unhealthy for children and other living
things.

What ever gave you the idea that anti-abortionists are pro war? Didn't you
know that the Pope said that the US invasion in Iraq was unjust?

Good for him...however, the Pope isn't an elected official of any government
I'm subject to.

Now go back home like a good little boy and do your homework.

Take your own advice, little fraudster.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 3, Houston 0 (January 24)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, January 26 at Iowa, 7:05
.

User: "LC"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 12:53:35 PM
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"Gringo" <anonymous@nospam.com> wrote

If you people are so anti-killing, why are you so eager to send other men
and women off to war? War is unhealthy for children and other living
things.

What ever gave you the idea that anti-abortionists are pro war? Didn't you
know that the Pope said that the US invasion in Iraq was unjust?

Bammy wants to handle the killing himself, via his demented ideology:
"I'd hang you for that if I had the power. And it would be justly deserved."
From: "bam" <mcca5...@bellsouthblahblah.net>
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LC~ The Inquisition according to bam-bam, v. 2006.
"All the abortionists, lesbians, queers atheist and jews
agree with you. See who's side you're on?"
From: "bam" <mcca5...@bellsouthblahblah.net>, lining up his targets.
Message-ID: I9uUb.5165$UF1.3121@bignews6.bellsouth.net
.

User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Jan 2006 12:01:51 AM
in article SUmCf.13994$SC1.542@bignews3.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 1/27/06 5:52 AM:


"Gringo" <anonymous@nospam.com> wrote

If you people are so anti-killing, why are you so eager to send other men
and women off to war? War is unhealthy for children and other living
things.


What ever gave you the idea that anti-abortionists are pro war? Didn't you
know that the Pope said that the US invasion in Iraq was unjust?

It DOES show how ineffectual the Pope and Catholicism is...we're
still there.
Paul
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Jan 2006 06:40:35 PM
On 27-Jan-2006, Gringo <anonymous@nospam.com> wrote:

bam wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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the
loss of younger workers to support the system. The fact that women who
abort go on to have other children shows that abortion is not the cause
of fewer younger workers.



Who cares?

Ah, yes, one of the usual cries of the bigot when presented with facts.

Abortion is killing.


If you people are so anti-killing, why are you so eager to send other
men and women off to war? War is unhealthy for children and other
living things.

It's a little thing called hypocrisy.
Susan


--
"Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could still be an occupying
power in a bitterly hostile land."
-- George Bush Sr., 1998


"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and
your government when it deserves it."
-- Mark Twain

.


User: "Bill"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 26 Jan 2006 10:43:42 AM
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a couple
of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM

Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.
Abortion is NOT killing babies. Abortion is terminating a women's pregnancy
BEFORE it is a child. That's why they are called zygotes, embryos and
fetuses. In most cases
it occurs in the first few months when the fertilized egg is merely a
zygote. It is part
and parcel of the 'woman's body'. It is not an independent entity.
It is not substantially different than the wasting of millions of sperm and
thousands of
unfertilized eggs by abstinence.
Are you also proposing that we outlaw abstinence, condoms, birth control
pills and masturbation?
This is a medical procedure chosen by the woman and is not something to be
dictated by ignorant
legislatures or religious fanatics.
There is noting more harmful to both mother and child than 'unwanted'
children.
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User: "bam"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 26 Jan 2006 12:42:22 PM
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM


Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.

Like you?


Abortion is NOT killing babies.

That's exactly what it is.

Abortion is terminating a women's pregnancy.

Ahhhh ...and helping the world rid itself of the surplus population. Next
you'll tell me it's a good thing.

BEFORE it is a child.

It's always a child.

That's why they are called zygotes, embryos and fetuses.

And we say infants, toddlers, kids, teenagers, adults and elderly. That
doesn't diminish their value.
BAM
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User: "Lörd Phÿltêr"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Jan 2006 02:06:04 AM
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> had me ROTFL with: news:jH8Cf.9987
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM


Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.


Like you?


Abortion is NOT killing babies.


That's exactly what it is.

Until 24 weeks gestation, the fetus doesn't have a fully connected or
functioning brainstem, amazingly, you slipped throught that gestation
process.
A baby respires with its lungs, a fetus does not. It is NOT a baby.
A baby voids through its waste openings, a fetus does not. It is NOT a
baby.
A baby ingests nourishment through its mouth, a fetus does not. It is NOT a
baby.
But all this is moot, you're a moron that can't tell the difference.
Your untenable position is that you believe that life should not be
interfered with. So be it.

Then by default you are against killing of all methods, therefore, the
senseless maiming and killing of living human beings should be more
abhorrent to you than the termination of fetuses, but, somehow, I doubt
that.
It would be closer to the truth that you are a mysogynist who sees women as
chattel, brood mares for men's pleasure and domination.
You're one sick motherfucking caveman which 50% of the population so
rightly revile.
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
.
User: "bam"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Jan 2006 08:18:11 AM
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM


Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.


Like you?


Abortion is NOT killing babies.


That's exactly what it is.


Until 24 weeks gestation, the fetus doesn't have a fully connected or
functioning brainstem, amazingly, you slipped throught that gestation
process.

So if I were to prove to you that the baby *does* feel pain, would you
reverse your views? Because, if not, this is a wasted dialogue, wouldn't you
agree?

Then by default you are against killing of all methods, therefore, the
senseless maiming and killing of living human beings should be more
abhorrent to you than the termination of fetuses, but, somehow, I doubt
that.

Why would you doubt that?

The truth that you are a mysogynist who sees women as
chattel, brood mares for men's pleasure and domination.

You ***** - it's completely the opposite. It's the men who support
abortion who want to use women for fun and not have to face the
consequences. I'd take great pleasure in kicking the ***** of you.

You're one sick motherfucking caveman which 50% of the population so
rightly revile.

50 50 ay? That gives me huge odds of winning, based on the intellectual and
spiritual retardedness of you and your baby killing allies.
BAM
.
User: "Lörd Phÿltêr"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 29 Jan 2006 12:03:41 AM
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children
who wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to
term when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM


Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.


Like you?


Abortion is NOT killing babies.


That's exactly what it is.


Until 24 weeks gestation, the fetus doesn't have a fully connected or
functioning brainstem, amazingly, you slipped throught that gestation
process.


So if I were to prove to you that the baby *does* feel pain, would you
reverse your views?

No.
Because, if not, this is a wasted dialogue, wouldn't

you agree?

Probably, but I've got a few moments free, so what the hell..


Then by default you are against killing of all methods, therefore, the
senseless maiming and killing of living human beings should be more
abhorrent to you than the termination of fetuses, but, somehow, I doubt
that.


Why would you doubt that?

So, you're against our young people going off to die in a war for oil?


The truth that you are a mysogynist who sees women as
chattel, brood mares for men's pleasure and domination.


You ***** - it's completely the opposite. It's the men who support
abortion who want to use women for fun and not have to face the
consequences. I'd take great pleasure in kicking the ***** of you.

Boy have YOU got the wrong idea! Abortion is NOT about birth control, it's
about a woman having the sole rights to her own body, just as men have.
It's called "equality" and "self determination".
And I see you have NO problem causing pain, which counters what you bleated
about earlier, hypocrite


You're one sick motherfucking caveman which 50% of the population so
rightly revile.


50 50 ay? That gives me huge odds of winning, based on the intellectual
and spiritual retardedness of you and your baby killing allies.

Winning what, a fight? I was referring to that half of the population known
as women, brainiac.
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Jan 2006 11:47:57 AM
bam <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:

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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> had me ROTFL with: news:jH8Cf.9987
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM


Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.


Like you?


Abortion is NOT killing babies.


That's exactly what it is.


Until 24 weeks gestation, the fetus doesn't have a fully connected or
functioning brainstem, amazingly, you slipped throught that gestation
process.


So if I were to prove to you that the baby *does* feel pain, would you
reverse your views? Because, if not, this is a wasted dialogue, wouldn't you
agree?

But you can't prove anything of the sort. You can't even define what
it means to "feel pain".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "bam"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Jan 2006 02:07:17 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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bam <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:

"Lörd Phÿltêr" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in message

"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> had me ROTFL with:
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$3m4.727@bignews5.bellsouth.net:


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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children
who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM


Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.


Like you?


Abortion is NOT killing babies.


That's exactly what it is.


Until 24 weeks gestation, the fetus doesn't have a fully connected or
functioning brainstem, amazingly, you slipped throught that gestation
process.


So if I were to prove to you that the baby *does* feel pain, would you
reverse your views? Because, if not, this is a wasted dialogue, wouldn't
you
agree?


But you can't prove anything of the sort. You can't even define what
it means to "feel pain".

Put your hands behind your back. Start running until you spot a wall. Run in
that direction and keep running - don't stop. When the wall stops you,
define the sensation.
BAM
.
User: "Phÿltrêss"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Mar 2006 12:03:41 PM
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> blew me away with
news:R6QCf.15010$SC1.14591@bignews3.bellsouth.net:


So.....it's OK to kill babies?

Embryos are NOT babies, fuckwit.

BAM



That's exactly what it is.

WRONG

..... that the baby *does* feel pain, would
you reverse your views? Because, if not, this is a wasted dialogue,
wouldn't you
agree?


There is no dialog here, fuckwit, just you arrogantly vomiting *****,
diverting the argument with lying propaganda. You want women stripped of
the right to decide to bring life into the world, or NOT. And anybody who
disagrees with you, y
Phyltrêss, Princess of Atheism
Phabulous Phast Phood Carry-Out & Weapons Shop
"Face O' Mary" Grilled Cheese our Specialty,
Don't MAKE me call you fuckchop, Fuckchop!
www.jesusneverexisted.com
.
User: "bam"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Mar 2006 08:59:44 PM
"Phÿltrêss" <not@tellin.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97948536F5CA4Phyltressfuckyounet@207.115.17.102...

"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> blew me away with
news:R6QCf.15010$SC1.14591@bignews3.bellsouth.net:


So.....it's OK to kill babies?


Embryos are NOT babies, fuckwit.

BAM



That's exactly what it is.


WRONG

..... that the baby *does* feel pain, would
you reverse your views? Because, if not, this is a wasted dialogue,
wouldn't you
agree?


There is no dialog here, fuckwit, just you arrogantly vomiting *****,
diverting the argument with lying propaganda. You want women stripped of
the right to decide to bring life into the world, or NOT. And anybody who
disagrees with you, y

Deny women the right to decide? You're a joke. The woman decides when she
has sex.
BAM
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Mar 2006 12:20:26 PM
Why nuclear war?
When were the nuclear weapons used for the first time, abortion in US
was illegal.
I know, this is Raytard thread, but still..
Anyway, look at the worldwide abortion statistics here:
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/wrjp337sd.html
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/wrjp333pd.html
If God is going to nuke America for measly 47 millions abortions, how
will he punish China (299 million) and Japan (76 million) ?
In the old USSR, there were 309 million abortions when it broke up. If
this is the magic number, then United States are, with annual 1,25
millions, safe till year 2209.
Ph=FFltr=EAss wrote:

"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> blew me away with
news:R6QCf.15010$SC1.14591@bignews3.bellsouth.net:


So.....it's OK to kill babies?


Embryos are NOT babies, fuckwit.

BAM



That's exactly what it is.


WRONG

..... that the baby *does* feel pain, would
you reverse your views? Because, if not, this is a wasted dialogue,
wouldn't you
agree?


There is no dialog here, fuckwit, just you arrogantly vomiting *****,
diverting the argument with lying propaganda. You want women stripped of
the right to decide to bring life into the world, or NOT. And anybody who
disagrees with you, y


Phyltr=EAss, Princess of Atheism
Phabulous Phast Phood Carry-Out & Weapons Shop
"Face O' Mary" Grilled Cheese our Specialty,
Don't MAKE me call you fuckchop, Fuckchop!
www.jesusneverexisted.com

.


User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Jan 2006 02:24:57 PM
bam <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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bam <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:

"Lörd Phÿltêr" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in message

"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> had me ROTFL with:
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children
who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM


Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.


Like you?


Abortion is NOT killing babies.


That's exactly what it is.


Until 24 weeks gestation, the fetus doesn't have a fully connected or
functioning brainstem, amazingly, you slipped throught that gestation
process.


So if I were to prove to you that the baby *does* feel pain, would you
reverse your views? Because, if not, this is a wasted dialogue, wouldn't
you
agree?


But you can't prove anything of the sort. You can't even define what
it means to "feel pain".


Put your hands behind your back. Start running until you spot a wall. Run in
that direction and keep running - don't stop. When the wall stops you,
define the sensation.

That isn't a definition, dimwit. It's an opinion.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.



User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 28 Jan 2006 09:17:31 PM
in article A%KCf.9501$vp6.3543@bignews6.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 1/28/06 9:18 AM:


"Lörd Phÿltêr" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9759A3F73C5D3cogitoergosum@61.9.191.5...

"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> had me ROTFL with: news:jH8Cf.9987
$3m4.727@bignews5.bellsouth.net:


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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM


Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.


Like you?


Abortion is NOT killing babies.


That's exactly what it is.


Until 24 weeks gestation, the fetus doesn't have a fully connected or
functioning brainstem, amazingly, you slipped throught that gestation
process.


So if I were to prove to you that the baby *does* feel pain, would you
reverse your views? Because, if not, this is a wasted dialogue, wouldn't you
agree?

Then by default you are against killing of all methods, therefore, the
senseless maiming and killing of living human beings should be more
abhorrent to you than the termination of fetuses, but, somehow, I doubt
that.


Why would you doubt that?

The truth that you are a mysogynist who sees women as
chattel, brood mares for men's pleasure and domination.


You ***** - it's completely the opposite. It's the men who support
abortion who want to use women for fun and not have to face the
consequences. I'd take great pleasure in kicking the ***** of you.


It might make up for no woman wanting to take pleasure in Bam...
Paul
.



User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 11:41:18 PM
in article jH8Cf.9987$3m4.727@bignews5.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 1/26/06 1:42 PM:


"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

Great logic.

BAM


Don't be such an ignorant and idiotic bigot.


Like you?


Abortion is NOT killing babies.


That's exactly what it is.

Abortion is terminating a women's pregnancy.


Ahhhh ...and helping the world rid itself of the surplus population. Next
you'll tell me it's a good thing.

BEFORE it is a child.


It's always a child.

That's why they are called zygotes, embryos and fetuses.


And we say infants, toddlers, kids, teenagers, adults and elderly. That
doesn't diminish their value.

Which is always minimal to God.
Paul
.



User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 26 Jan 2006 11:31:56 AM
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:03:00 -0500, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:


"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a couple
of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?

(a) non sequitur
(b) nobody is doing that, liar

Great logic.

You don't know what logic is.
Why are so many of you such stupid, in-your-face, personal liars?

BAM

.
User: "bam"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 26 Jan 2006 12:44:44 PM
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:kn1it1p2ftqio0divveg530jiocnots2rf@4ax.com...

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:03:00 -0500, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:


"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple
of
children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing
a stable relationship in which to produce and care for children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?


(a) non sequitur
(b) nobody is doing that, liar

Great logic.


You don't know what logic is.

Why are so many of you such stupid, in-your-face, personal liars?

Abortion is the killing of a human being. I don't care what kind of fun you
want to have with your girlfriend. Just don't kill any infants.
BAM
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 26 Jan 2006 09:12:19 PM
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:

"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:kn1it1p2ftqio0divveg530jiocnots2rf@4ax.com...

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:03:00 -0500, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a couple
of children later, when their circumstances have improved - children who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing a stable relationship in which to produce and care for
children.

So...................it's OK to kill babies?

(a) non sequitur
(b) nobody is doing that, liar

Great logic.

You don't know what logic is.
Why are so many of you such stupid, in-your-face, personal liars?

Abortion is the killing of a human being. I don't care what kind of fun you
want to have with your girlfriend. Just don't kill any infants.

Or what? You'll whine even louder? Free clue: infants have been born. If
you have any proof that any of us are killing infants, why aren't you making
calls to the applicable authorities? (713 308-8000, in my case.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 3, Houston 0 (January 24)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, January 26 at Iowa, 7:05
.
User: "bam"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 04:57:59 AM
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkoe1y9xf0.fsf@eris.io.com...

"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:

"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:kn1it1p2ftqio0divveg530jiocnots2rf@4ax.com...

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:03:00 -0500, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:


"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote


The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple
of children later, when their circumstances have improved - children
who
wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to carry to term
when
they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their chances of
establishing a stable relationship in which to produce and care for
children.


So...................it's OK to kill babies?


(a) non sequitur
(b) nobody is doing that, liar


Great logic.


You don't know what logic is.


Why are so many of you such stupid, in-your-face, personal liars?


Abortion is the killing of a human being. I don't care what kind of fun
you
want to have with your girlfriend. Just don't kill any infants.


Or what? You'll whine even louder? Free clue: infants have been born.
If
you have any proof that any of us are killing infants, why aren't you
making
calls to the applicable authorities? (713 308-8000, in my case.)

That's a great argument. If I had been arguing outside of Aushwitz prison
the guards could have used the same logic in their reply.
BAM
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Mother Theresa: The Fruit Of Abortion Is Nuclear War 27 Jan 2006 12:11:35 PM
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkoe1y9xf0.fsf@eris.io.com...

"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:

"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:kn1it1p2ftqio0divveg530jiocnots2rf@4ax.com...

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:03:00 -0500, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote

The vast majority of women who have an abortion go on to produce a
couple of children later, when their circumstances have improved -
children who wouldn't have existed had their mothers been forced to
carry to term when they were unable to cope, thereby jeopardising their
chances of establishing a stable relationship in which to produce and
care for children.

So...................it's OK to kill babies?

(a) non sequitur
(b) nobody is doing that, liar

Great logic.

You don't know what logic is.
Why are so many of you such stupid, in-your-face, personal liars?

Abortion is the killing of a human being. I don't care what kind of fun you
want to have with your girlfriend. Just don't kill any infants.

Or what? You'll whine even louder? Free clue: infants have been born.
If you have any proof that any of us are killing infants, why aren't you
making calls to the applicable authorities? (713 308-8000, in my case.)

That's a great argument. If I had been arguing outside of Aushwitz prison
the guards could have used the same logic in their reply.

Admission of inability to understand simple English noted.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Iowa 6, Houston 4 (January 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, January 27 at Peoria, 7:35
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