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Object: Muhammad--the pedophile prophet of a disgusting and dangerous pagan religion

From the Quran:

Muhammed - The Pedophile
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Sahih Bukhari Aisha: that the Prophet
married her when she was six
years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years
old,
and then she remained with
him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to
wash
the traces of Janaba
(semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers
while traces of water were
still on it."

From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm,

Gom,
Iran,
1990 : A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a
baby.
However he should not
penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and
damages the child then he
should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl,
however does not count as
one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to
marry
the girls sister.
[...] It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would
begin menstruation at
her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father
marrying
his daughter so young
will have a permanent place in heaven. How it all began ( a long time
ago in the isolated
deserts of Arabia) : Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr,
Mohammad's closest friend
and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started
dreaming of a union with her
[Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his
dreams, inspite of the
fact that object of his dreams was a mere child.Perhaps you want to
assume that it is
"normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child,
and then ACTUALLY ask
for her hand at 6?
Is it normal for an oversexed old man (Muhammad had over 9 wives and
concubines) to dream of a union
with a 4-5 year old girl?
Muhammad ( SAW ) was basically oversexed, his sexual relationship
with
Aisha is a special case,
which fits his strong need for a larger latitude to satisfy his
sexual
urge, as is witnessed by:
"The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day
and
night and they were eleven
in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas
replied, "We used to say that
the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said
on
the authority of Qatada that
Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven)." [Bukhari.
1:268]
When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her
hand.
Abu Bakr thought it was
improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed
aside Abu Bakr's reservation by
saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha [ Ref:
SAHIH
BUKHAR I7:18].
What happened to " there is no compulsion in matters of religion ?"
Anyway what compulsion did
Muhhammad need being a prophet his word was law, he restricted men to
only four wives when he
himself had more than four, that was a convenient exemption for
Muhhammad.
So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when
Aisha
was 9, the marriage was
consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI
1991:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .
The 3 year waiting period probably had to do with the fact that at
that
time Aisha had contracted
some disease, whereby she, temporarily lost her hair. Aisha was then
socially and psychologically
still a child as is evidenced by the fact that she was still given to
her toys, she was unaware of
what was happening around her, and her playmates behave as would the
children at present times
[Sahih Bukhari 8:151,5:234].
Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the
relationship was predominant [
SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd
1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to
be called the "mother of believers". If you are wandering, yes, the
relationship was pedophilic.
When did the sexual relations between Prophet Mohammad and his child
bride begin?
Unfortunately we do not have any video recordings of such events.
Neither can we expect that there
would be any explicit statements regarding this. In any case it is
certain that she had NOT reached
puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house, which in itself,
contrary
to the prevailing social
norms, is a tacit implication that he may indulge in whatever
fantasies
he may have had when he
asked for Aisha's hand. And Muhammad did have fantasies.
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with
the
dolls in the presence of
the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When
Allah's Apostle used to enter (my
dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, BUT the Prophet would
call them to join and play
with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden,
but it was allowed for
'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the
age
of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari
page 143, Vol.13)
It is, however, very unlikely that Muhammad would have waited for the
onset of the menses; or at
most it could have been just after the 1st drops. The evidence is
necessarily indirect.
# His strong desire to "graze of the (tree) of which nothing has been
eaten
before", as his other wives had not been virgins.
# Menses or fasting do not reduce Muhammad's desire and potency for
sex. His
nightly rounds to his wives(lastly 12-13) did require more than
average
potency.
# New additions to his harem lead to intensive sexual activity, e.g.
arrival of
Maria lead to increased, initial spurt of sexual activity to the
neglect of others .
# The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to
wash the
traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used
to
go for prayers while traces
of water were still on it."
# Other wives try to please Muhammad by sacrificing their turns in
favor of
Aisha.
# During his last fatal illness he cries: "Where will I be tomorrow?
Where will
I be tomorrow?", seeking Aisha's turn.
Prophet Say: Marry Young Virgins Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:
Narrated
Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I
got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you
married?" I replied, "I have
married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the
young
virgins and for fondling
them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a
young girl so that you might
play with her and she with you?'
Silent Children : Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67: Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron
should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a
virgin should not be given in
marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's
Apostle! How can we know her
permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."
Where sex is akin to a crime, silence is admission of your guilt.
What
a corruption of "fitrah" (
human nature).
What religion condones the destruction of childhood? What are we who
daily avow our undying love for
Allah to do against a system that ruthlessly oppresses its youngest
and
brightest ?
What was Aisha's age? I have heard other figures ... (A question also
known as: How many of your own
sources will you deny ? ) All the relevant sources (Bukhari, Ibn
Hisham, Tabari, Ibn al-Athir, Ibn
Sa'd, Ibn Hanbal, etc.) maintain that Aisha was bethroted to Mohammed
when she was 6, and the
marraige was consummated 3 years later.
'Mahommad - The Word of Allah' written by Anne-Marie Delcambre.
(Anne-Marie Delcambre has a
doctorate in 'Islamology', and taught Islamic Civilisation at the
Saint
Joseph University of
Beyrouth in Lebanon). On page 69, it says that he was married to her
when she was 9 years old.
Dates commonly accepted by scholars: Birth Muhammad(570), birth
Aisha(614 or
1992). Bethrothal(620 or 621), Consummation of marriage(623 or 624).
In
particular the
"consummation" of marriage is said to have taken place after the
hidjra
in Shawwal 1 or 2.
Between 621 and 623 Asiha is said to have contracted a disease
whereby
she temporarily lost her
hair. (Ref 1)
She could not have been more than 10 years when she went to live in
Muhammad's house. The fact that
she took her toys with her to her new home indicates that she was
psychologically and socially still
a child. And the fact that she was allowed to play with DOLLS
indicates
that she had NOT reached
puberty by this time. ("The playing with the dolls and similar images
was(is) forbidden, but it was
allowed for Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet
reached the age of puberty."Fateh-al-
Bari page 143, Vol.13). Besides, there is also Aisha's own statement
which implies that she had NOT
reached puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house[Sahih Bukhari
7.163]. I am sure she would have
been able to recount accurately as to when and where she got her
first
menses. Most girls do
remember such events rather accurately. (Refs 2)
What is "sick" is that Muhammad had started to dream of a union with
Aisha already when she was 4-5
years old: "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married
you...(and) I said (to
myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen." He was to use
a
similar tactic when he wanted
to marry his step son's wife. A tactic which Aisha later came to
understand as fraud, as in: "Aisha
said: O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in
pleasing you." (Refs 2)
Muhammad wasted no time in realizing what he had been dreaming.
Already
when Aisha was 6 "The
Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said
"But I am your brother." The
Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book,
but
she (Aisha) is lawful for me
to marry." Here it does not seem that Abu Bakr consented to the
marriage wholeheartedly.
REFERENCES (1) Les femmes du Prophete Prof.Magali Morsi, Professor of
History, University of
Muhammed V, Rabat, Morocco.
(1993) Shahih Bukhari: [1.229] [1.230] [1.231] [1.232] [1.233]
[1.258]
[1.263]
[1993
Pedophile ?
What are the essential features of pedophilia.? Professors of
psychiatry, Harold I.Kaplan MD and
Benjamin J.Sadock MD. of New York University Medical School states
the
essential features to
diagnose pedophilia are:
1.Identification with and narcissistic investment in immature sexual
objects. Muhammad's infatuation
and relationship with Aisha fits this criterion. And Mohammad was
vain
too - he liked to use
perfume and dye his hair (even as an old man).
2. Control, domination and seduction of children. A slight
recalcitrance on the part of his wives
was met by intolerant threats like: "if he (Muhammad) divorce you,
(Allah) will give him in your
place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient,
penitent,
adorers, fasters, widows
and virgins." [K 66.5]
3. Sexual activity with children is preferential and occur
repeatedly.
Aisha was ever present, right
up to his last fatal breath and he preferred spending his nights with
her. Aisha became
Muhammad's favorites wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was
predominant. [Sahih Bukhari
4.270,3:36,7:6,3:148,3:149,3:150,7:142,IbnSa'd 1pg165]
Is menses necessary indicator of sexual maturity ? Sexual maturity is
NOT PURELY RELATED TO MENSES
as for some peculiar reasons many Muslims have tried to say.
In the first place having or not having menses is not the criterion
for
sexual maturity, and thus of
pedophilic behaviour. We have cases here, of abducted girls, 12, 13,
14, well past their mens, and
yet preferred by pedophiles as sexual objects.
Besides when Aisha was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming
of
a union with her [Sahih
Bukhari 5:235]-
Chapter Al-Imran
5:104 Let there arise out of you a Nation of people inviting to all
that is good (Islam),
enjoying Al-Ma'ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism & all that Islam orders
one
to do) and forbidding
Al-Munkar (Polytheism & all that Islam has forbiden), And it is they
who are the successful.
6:105 And be not as those who divided and differed after the clear
proofs had come to
them.(Allowing homosexuality & all kind of immoralities). It is they
for whom there is an
awful torment.
7:106 On the Day (Djugement Day) when some faces will become white
and
some faces will become
black; as for those whose faces will become black (To them will be
said):"Did you reject Faith
after accepting it? Then taste the torment (in Hell) for rejecting
it.
8:107 And for those whose faces will become white, they will be in
Allah's Mercy (Paradise),
therein they shall dwell forever.
9:108 These are the verses of Allah; We recite them to you (O
Muhammad)
in truth, and Allah wills
no injustice to Al-Alamin
.

User: "bobandcarole"

Title: Re: Muhammad--the pedophile prophet of a disgusting and dangerous pagan religion 21 Jun 2007 06:23:31 AM

From the Quran:

Muhammed - The Pedophile
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Sahih Bukhari Aisha: that the Prophet
married her when she was six
years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years
old,
and then she remained with
him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to
wash
the traces of Janaba
(semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers
while traces of water were
still on it."

From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm,

Gom,
Iran,
1990 : A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a
baby.
However he should not
penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and
damages the child then he
should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl,
however does not count as
one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to
marry
the girls sister.
[...] It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would
begin menstruation at
her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father
marrying
his daughter so young
will have a permanent place in heaven. How it all began ( a long time
ago in the isolated
deserts of Arabia) : Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr,
Mohammad's closest friend
and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started
dreaming of a union with her
[Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his
dreams, inspite of the
fact that object of his dreams was a mere child.Perhaps you want to
assume that it is
"normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child,
and then ACTUALLY ask
for her hand at 6?
Is it normal for an oversexed old man (Muhammad had over 9 wives and
concubines) to dream of a union
with a 4-5 year old girl?
Muhammad ( SAW ) was basically oversexed, his sexual relationship
with
Aisha is a special case,
which fits his strong need for a larger latitude to satisfy his
sexual
urge, as is witnessed by:
"The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day
and
night and they were eleven
in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas
replied, "We used to say that
the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said
on
the authority of Qatada that
Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven)." [Bukhari.
1:268]
When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her
hand.
Abu Bakr thought it was
improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed
aside Abu Bakr's reservation by
saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha [ Ref:
SAHIH
BUKHAR I7:18].
What happened to " there is no compulsion in matters of religion ?"
Anyway what compulsion did
Muhhammad need being a prophet his word was law, he restricted men to
only four wives when he
himself had more than four, that was a convenient exemption for
Muhhammad.
So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when
Aisha
was 9, the marriage was
consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI
1991:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .
The 3 year waiting period probably had to do with the fact that at
that
time Aisha had contracted
some disease, whereby she, temporarily lost her hair. Aisha was then
socially and psychologically
still a child as is evidenced by the fact that she was still given to
her toys, she was unaware of
what was happening around her, and her playmates behave as would the
children at present times
[Sahih Bukhari 8:151,5:234].
Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the
relationship was predominant [
SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd
1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to
be called the "mother of believers". If you are wandering, yes, the
relationship was pedophilic.
When did the sexual relations between Prophet Mohammad and his child
bride begin?
Unfortunately we do not have any video recordings of such events.
Neither can we expect that there
would be any explicit statements regarding this. In any case it is
certain that she had NOT reached
puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house, which in itself,
contrary
to the prevailing social
norms, is a tacit implication that he may indulge in whatever
fantasies
he may have had when he
asked for Aisha's hand. And Muhammad did have fantasies.
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with
the
dolls in the presence of
the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When
Allah's Apostle used to enter (my
dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, BUT the Prophet would
call them to join and play
with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden,
but it was allowed for
'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the
age
of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari
page 143, Vol.13)
It is, however, very unlikely that Muhammad would have waited for the
onset of the menses; or at
most it could have been just after the 1st drops. The evidence is
necessarily indirect.
# His strong desire to "graze of the (tree) of which nothing has been
eaten
before", as his other wives had not been virgins.
# Menses or fasting do not reduce Muhammad's desire and potency for
sex. His
nightly rounds to his wives(lastly 12-13) did require more than
average
potency.
# New additions to his harem lead to intensive sexual activity, e.g.
arrival of
Maria lead to increased, initial spurt of sexual activity to the
neglect of others .
# The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to
wash the
traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used
to
go for prayers while traces
of water were still on it."
# Other wives try to please Muhammad by sacrificing their turns in
favor of
Aisha.
# During his last fatal illness he cries: "Where will I be tomorrow?
Where will
I be tomorrow?", seeking Aisha's turn.
Prophet Say: Marry Young Virgins Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:
Narrated
Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I
got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you
married?" I replied, "I have
married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the
young
virgins and for fondling
them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a
young girl so that you might
play with her and she with you?'
Silent Children : Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67: Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron
should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a
virgin should not be given in
marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's
Apostle! How can we know her
permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."
Where sex is akin to a crime, silence is admission of your guilt.
What
a corruption of "fitrah" (
human nature).
What religion condones the destruction of childhood? What are we who
daily avow our undying love for
Allah to do against a system that ruthlessly oppresses its youngest
and
brightest ?
What was Aisha's age? I have heard other figures ... (A question also
known as: How many of your own
sources will you deny ? ) All the relevant sources (Bukhari, Ibn
Hisham, Tabari, Ibn al-Athir, Ibn
Sa'd, Ibn Hanbal, etc.) maintain that Aisha was bethroted to Mohammed
when she was 6, and the
marraige was consummated 3 years later.
'Mahommad - The Word of Allah' written by Anne-Marie Delcambre.
(Anne-Marie Delcambre has a
doctorate in 'Islamology', and taught Islamic Civilisation at the
Saint
Joseph University of
Beyrouth in Lebanon). On page 69, it says that he was married to her
when she was 9 years old.
Dates commonly accepted by scholars: Birth Muhammad(570), birth
Aisha(614 or
1992). Bethrothal(620 or 621), Consummation of marriage(623 or 624).
In
particular the
"consummation" of marriage is said to have taken place after the
hidjra
in Shawwal 1 or 2.
Between 621 and 623 Asiha is said to have contracted a disease
whereby
she temporarily lost her
hair. (Ref 1)
She could not have been more than 10 years when she went to live in
Muhammad's house. The fact that
she took her toys with her to her new home indicates that she was
psychologically and socially still
a child. And the fact that she was allowed to play with DOLLS
indicates
that she had NOT reached
puberty by this time. ("The playing with the dolls and similar images
was(is) forbidden, but it was
allowed for Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet
reached the age of puberty."Fateh-al-
Bari page 143, Vol.13). Besides, there is also Aisha's own statement
which implies that she had NOT
reached puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house[Sahih Bukhari
7.163]. I am sure she would have
been able to recount accurately as to when and where she got her
first
menses. Most girls do
remember such events rather accurately. (Refs 2)
What is "sick" is that Muhammad had started to dream of a union with
Aisha already when she was 4-5
years old: "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married
you...(and) I said (to
myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen." He was to use
a
similar tactic when he wanted
to marry his step son's wife. A tactic which Aisha later came to
understand as fraud, as in: "Aisha
said: O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in
pleasing you." (Refs 2)
Muhammad wasted no time in realizing what he had been dreaming.
Already
when Aisha was 6 "The
Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said
"But I am your brother." The
Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book,
but
she (Aisha) is lawful for me
to marry." Here it does not seem that Abu Bakr consented to the
marriage wholeheartedly.
REFERENCES (1) Les femmes du Prophete Prof.Magali Morsi, Professor of
History, University of
Muhammed V, Rabat, Morocco.
(1993) Shahih Bukhari: [1.229] [1.230] [1.231] [1.232] [1.233]
[1.258]
[1.263]
[1993
Pedophile ?
What are the essential features of pedophilia.? Professors of
psychiatry, Harold I.Kaplan MD and
Benjamin J.Sadock MD. of New York University Medical School states
the
essential features to
diagnose pedophilia are:
1.Identification with and narcissistic investment in immature sexual
objects. Muhammad's infatuation
and relationship with Aisha fits this criterion. And Mohammad was
vain
too - he liked to use
perfume and dye his hair (even as an old man).
2. Control, domination and seduction of children. A slight
recalcitrance on the part of his wives
was met by intolerant threats like: "if he (Muhammad) divorce you,
(Allah) will give him in your
place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient,
penitent,
adorers, fasters, widows
and virgins." [K 66.5]
3. Sexual activity with children is preferential and occur
repeatedly.
Aisha was ever present, right
up to his last fatal breath and he preferred spending his nights with
her. Aisha became
Muhammad's favorites wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was
predominant. [Sahih Bukhari
4.270,3:36,7:6,3:148,3:149,3:150,7:142,IbnSa'd 1pg165]
Is menses necessary indicator of sexual maturity ? Sexual maturity is
NOT PURELY RELATED TO MENSES
as for some peculiar reasons many Muslims have tried to say.
In the first place having or not having menses is not the criterion
for
sexual maturity, and thus of
pedophilic behaviour. We have cases here, of abducted girls, 12, 13,
14, well past their mens, and
yet preferred by pedophiles as sexual objects.
Besides when Aisha was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming
of
a union with her [Sahih
Bukhari 5:235]-
Chapter Al-Imran
5:104 Let there arise out of you a Nation of people inviting to all
that is good (Islam),
enjoying Al-Ma'ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism & all that Islam orders
one
to do) and forbidding
Al-Munkar (Polytheism & all that Islam has forbiden), And it is they
who are the successful.
6:105 And be not as those who divided and differed after the clear
proofs had come to
them.(Allowing homosexuality & all kind of immoralities). It is they
for whom there is an
awful torment.
7:106 On the Day (Djugement Day) when some faces will become white
and
some faces will become
black; as for those whose faces will become black (To them will be
said):"Did you reject Faith
after accepting it? Then taste the torment (in Hell) for rejecting
it.
8:107 And for those whose faces will become white, they will be in
Allah's Mercy (Paradise),
therein they shall dwell forever.
9:108 These are the verses of Allah; We recite them to you (O
Muhammad)
in truth, and Allah wills
no injustice to Al-Alamin
.

User: "Anonymous Infidel - Scares away the primitives with fire"

Title: Re: Muhammad--the pedophile prophet of a disgusting and dangerous pagan religion 14 May 2007 11:02:41 AM
It's just sad that someone like Zainab(killed mad mohammad) wasn't
around earlier in mad mohammads life.
.

User: "Jude the Alexander"

Title: Re: Muhammad--the pedophile prophet of a disgusting and dangerous pagan religion 14 May 2007 12:02:59 PM
Muhammad, as sick and perverse as he way was not a pedophile. He was a
heteosexual child molester. He did NOT seek only child sexual relationships
and had other adult wives.
You have pedophiles who have NO adult sexual orientation. They seek out
children of a particular age group their WHOLE lives. It is extremely rare
to find a pedophile who marries. Then you have adult heterosexual and
homosexuals peoples who, for sick reasons, molest children but it is NOT
their primary sexual focus. ONLY true PEDOPHILES have, as children, their
ONLY sexual focus. Of the groups of true heterosexual and homosexuals who
molest it's the heterosexual male who molests at a extremly higher count
than homsosexuals, probably because 9 out of 10 men ARE heteosexual. There
is NO study that has shown that true heterosexuals or homosexuals molest
more than the other per capita.
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User: "James Riske"

Title: Re: Muhammad--the pedophile prophet of a disgusting and dangerouspagan religion 15 May 2007 06:04:39 PM
Jude the Alexander wrote:

Muhammad, as sick and perverse as he way was not a pedophile. He was a
heteosexual child molester. He did NOT seek only child sexual relationships
and had other adult wives.

You have pedophiles who have NO adult sexual orientation. They seek out
children of a particular age group their WHOLE lives. It is extremely rare
to find a pedophile who marries. Then you have adult heterosexual and
homosexuals peoples who, for sick reasons, molest children but it is NOT
their primary sexual focus. ONLY true PEDOPHILES have, as children, their
ONLY sexual focus. Of the groups of true heterosexual and homosexuals who
molest it's the heterosexual male who molests at a extremly higher count
than homsosexuals, probably because 9 out of 10 men ARE heteosexual. There
is NO study that has shown that true heterosexuals or homosexuals molest
more than the other per capita.


As usual Jude is lying, a male/male sexual attraction is a homosexual
attraction regardless of age as a male/female sexual attraction is a
heterosexual attraction regardless of age.
The endless amounts of semantic sophistry by the hateful and intolerant
homosexuals will never void this stark, simple truth.
--
"The ***** is so etched onto the minds of homosexuals that even mental
illness does not prevent them from focusing on it." -- Erik Holland
.
User: "bob&carole"

Title: Re: Muhammad--the pedophile prophet of a disgusting and dangerous pagan religion 14 Jun 2007 04:27:15 AM
On May 15, 7:04?pm, James Riske <james.ri...@h0tmail.com> wrote:

Jude the Alexander wrote:

Muhammad, as sick and perverse as he way was not a pedophile. He was a
heteosexual child molester. He did NOT seek only child sexual relationships
and had other adult wives.


You have pedophiles who have NO adult sexual orientation. They seek out
children of a particular age group their WHOLE lives. It is extremely rare
to find a pedophile who marries. Then you have adult heterosexual and
homosexuals peoples who, for sick reasons, molest children but it is NOT
their primary sexual focus. ONLY true PEDOPHILES have, as children, their
ONLY sexual focus. Of the groups of true heterosexual and homosexuals who
molest it's the heterosexual male who molests at a extremly higher count
than homsosexuals, probably because 9 out of 10 men ARE heteosexual. There
is NO study that has shown that true heterosexuals or homosexuals molest
more than the other per capita.


As usual Jude is lying, a male/male sexual attraction is a homosexual
attraction regardless of age as a male/female sexual attraction is a
heterosexual attraction regardless of age.

The endless amounts of semantic sophistry by the hateful and intolerant
homosexuals will never void this stark, simple truth.

Agreed


--
"The ***** is so etched onto the minds of homosexuals that even mental
illness does not prevent them from focusing on it." -- Erik Holland- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

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User: ""

Title: Re: Muhammad--the pedophile prophet of a disgusting and dangerous pagan religion 14 Jun 2007 05:05:35 PM
On 14 May, 14:19, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com> wrote:

From the Quran:


Muhammed - The Pedophile

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Sahih Bukhari Aisha: that the Prophet
married her when she was six
years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years
old,
and then she remained with
him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to
wash
the traces of Janaba
(semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers
while traces of water were
still on it."

From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm,


Gom,

Iran,
1990 : A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a
baby.
However he should not
penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and
damages the child then he
should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl,
however does not count as
one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to
marry
the girls sister.
[...] It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would
begin menstruation at
her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father
marrying
his daughter so young
will have a permanent place in heaven. How it all began ( a long time
ago in the isolated
deserts of Arabia) : Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr,
Mohammad's closest friend
and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started
dreaming of a union with her
[Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his
dreams, inspite of the
fact that object of his dreams was a mere child.Perhaps you want to
assume that it is
"normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child,
and then ACTUALLY ask
for her hand at 6?

Is it normal for an oversexed old man (Muhammad had over 9 wives and
concubines) to dream of a union
with a 4-5 year old girl?

Muhammad ( SAW ) was basically oversexed, his sexual relationship
with
Aisha is a special case,
which fits his strong need for a larger latitude to satisfy his
sexual
urge, as is witnessed by:

"The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day
and
night and they were eleven
in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas
replied, "We used to say that
the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said
on
the authority of Qatada that
Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven)." [Bukhari.
1:268]

When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her
hand.
Abu Bakr thought it was
improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed
aside Abu Bakr's reservation by
saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha [ Ref:
SAHIH
BUKHAR I7:18].

What happened to " there is no compulsion in matters of religion ?"
Anyway what compulsion did
Muhhammad need being a prophet his word was law, he restricted men to
only four wives when he
himself had more than four, that was a convenient exemption for
Muhhammad.

So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when
Aisha
was 9, the marriage was
consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI
1991:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .

The 3 year waiting period probably had to do with the fact that at
that
time Aisha had contracted
some disease, whereby she, temporarily lost her hair. Aisha was then
socially and psychologically
still a child as is evidenced by the fact that she was still given to
her toys, she was unaware of
what was happening around her, and her playmates behave as would the
children at present times
[Sahih Bukhari 8:151,5:234].

Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the
relationship was predominant [
SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd
1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to
be called the "mother of believers". If you are wandering, yes, the
relationship was pedophilic.
When did the sexual relations between Prophet Mohammad and his child
bride begin?

Unfortunately we do not have any video recordings of such events.
Neither can we expect that there
would be any explicit statements regarding this. In any case it is
certain that she had NOT reached
puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house, which in itself,
contrary
to the prevailing social
norms, is a tacit implication that he may indulge in whatever
fantasies
he may have had when he
asked for Aisha's hand. And Muhammad did have fantasies.

Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with
the
dolls in the presence of
the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When
Allah's Apostle used to enter (my
dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, BUT the Prophet would
call them to join and play
with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden,
but it was allowed for
'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the
age
of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari
page 143, Vol.13)

It is, however, very unlikely that Muhammad would have waited for the
onset of the menses; or at
most it could have been just after the 1st drops. The evidence is
necessarily indirect.

# His strong desire to "graze of the (tree) of which nothing has been
eaten
before", as his other wives had not been virgins.

# Menses or fasting do not reduce Muhammad's desire and potency for
sex. His
nightly rounds to his wives(lastly 12-13) did require more than
average
potency.

# New additions to his harem lead to intensive sexual activity, e.g.
arrival of
Maria lead to increased, initial spurt of sexual activity to the
neglect of others .

# The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to
wash the
traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used
to
go for prayers while traces
of water were still on it."

# Other wives try to please Muhammad by sacrificing their turns in
favor of
Aisha.

# During his last fatal illness he cries: "Where will I be tomorrow?
Where will
I be tomorrow?", seeking Aisha's turn.

Prophet Say: Marry Young Virgins Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:
Narrated
Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I
got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you
married?" I replied, "I have
married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the
young
virgins and for fondling
them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a
young girl so that you might
play with her and she with you?'

Silent Children : Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67: Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron
should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a
virgin should not be given in
marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's
Apostle! How can we know her
permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

Where sex is akin to a crime, silence is admission of your guilt.
What
a corruption of "fitrah" (
human nature).

What religion condones the destruction of childhood? What are we who
daily avow our undying love for
Allah to do against a system that ruthlessly oppresses its youngest
and
brightest ?

What was Aisha's age? I have heard other figures ... (A question also
known as: How many of your own
sources will you deny ? ) All the relevant sources (Bukhari, Ibn
Hisham, Tabari, Ibn al-Athir, Ibn
Sa'd, Ibn Hanbal, etc.) maintain that Aisha was bethroted to Mohammed
when she was 6, and the
marraige was consummated 3 years later.

'Mahommad - The Word of Allah' written by Anne-Marie Delcambre.
(Anne-Marie Delcambre has a
doctorate in 'Islamology', and taught Islamic Civilisation at the
Saint
Joseph University of
Beyrouth in Lebanon). On page 69, it says that he was married to her
when she was 9 years old.

Dates commonly accepted by scholars: Birth Muhammad(570), birth
Aisha(614 or
1992). Bethrothal(620 or 621), Consummation of marriage(623 or 624).
In
particular the
"consummation" of marriage is said to have taken place after the
hidjra
in Shawwal 1 or 2.
Between 621 and 623 Asiha is said to have contracted a disease
whereby
she temporarily lost her
hair. (Ref 1)

She could not have been more than 10 years when she went to live in
Muhammad's house. The fact that
she took her toys with her to her new home indicates that she was
psychologically and socially still
a child. And the fact that she was allowed to play with DOLLS
indicates
that she had NOT reached
puberty by this time. ("The playing with the dolls and similar images
was(is) forbidden, but it was
allowed for Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet
reached the age of puberty."Fateh-al-
Bari page 143, Vol.13). Besides, there is also Aisha's own statement
which implies that she had NOT
reached puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house[Sahih Bukhari
7.163]. I am sure she would have
been able to recount accurately as to when and where she got her
first
menses. Most girls do
remember such events rather accurately. (Refs 2)

What is "sick" is that Muhammad had started to dream of a union with
Aisha already when she was 4-5
years old: "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married
you...(and) I said (to
myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen." He was to use
a
similar tactic when he wanted
to marry his step son's wife. A tactic which Aisha later came to
understand as fraud, as in: "Aisha
said: O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in
pleasing you." (Refs 2)

Muhammad wasted no time in realizing what he had been dreaming.
Already
when Aisha was 6 "The
Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said
"But I am your brother." The
Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book,
but
she (Aisha) is lawful for me
to marry." Here it does not seem that Abu Bakr consented to the
marriage wholeheartedly.

REFERENCES (1) Les femmes du Prophete Prof.Magali Morsi, Professor of
History, University of
Muhammed V, Rabat, Morocco.
(1993) Shahih Bukhari: [1.229] [1.230] [1.231] [1.232] [1.233]
[1.258]
[1.263]
[1993

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What are the essential features of pedophilia.? Professors of ...

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Excellent article, scholarly, and informative, I really enjoyed
reading it.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
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User: "Muslims Always Victorious"

Title: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever lived or will ever live. 14 Jun 2007 09:16:06 AM
Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his
family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever
lived or will ever live.
You may be an atheist or an agnostic or you may belong to any of the
religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may have
been a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter
what you are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs,
personal and social habits happen to be- YOU STILL MUST KNOW THIS MAN!
Muhammad - the Prophet of Islam
http://tinyurl.com/yqdvz9
Related link
http://tinyurl.com/22ukgs
Also read
The 100
A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History
by Michael H. Hart
A Book Review by Siddiq Osman Noormuhammad
http://muslim-canada.org/toponehundred.htm
.
User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever lived or will ever live. 14 Jun 2007 04:51:31 PM
In article <1181830566.685259.7240@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Muslims Always Victorious <zimbawi@295.ca> wrote:

Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his
family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever
lived or will ever live.

He was just another religious nut who had a talent for poetry. Big deal.
He had nothing to offer humanity that it didn't already have, and his
ravings made for the sanctification of violence. Yeah... we're ever so
much better for having had him around.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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.

User: "419"

Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him,his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that everlived or will ever live. 14 Jun 2007 02:01:56 PM
Muslims Always Idiotic wrote:

Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his
family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever
lived or will ever live.

You may be an atheist or an agnostic or you may belong to any of the
religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may have
been a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter
what you are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs,
personal and social habits happen to be- YOU STILL MUST KNOW THIS MAN!

As religions go, Islam is even more idiotic than most. And Muhammad was
a child molester and war monger as well as an illiterate *****. Only
someone dumb enough to believe religious superstition could consider him
a great man.
.

User: "Dionisio"

Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him,his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that everlived or will ever live. 14 Jun 2007 04:30:00 PM
Muslims Always Victorious wrote:

...YOU STILL MUST KNOW THIS MAN!

Would that be the scholarly "know" or the colloquial "know"?
Folks in alt.politics.homosexuality are just ga-ga over your proclamation.
(They're a bit concerned over the necrophilia, but still most interested. By, the by, you
do know that "knowing" a spirit dooms one to Hell, yes?)
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and
my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
-- Oscar Wilde
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
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User: "Firnando"

Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever lived or will ever live. 14 Jun 2007 09:59:02 AM
On Jun 14, 10:16 am, Muslims Always Victorious <zimb...@295.ca> wrote:

Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his
family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever
lived or will ever live.

You may be an atheist or an agnostic or you may belong to any of the
religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may have
been a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter
what you are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs,
personal and social habits happen to be- YOU STILL MUST KNOW THIS MAN!

Muhammad - the Prophet of Islam

http://tinyurl.com/yqdvz9

Related link

http://tinyurl.com/22ukgs

Also read

The 100
A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History
by Michael H. Hart
A Book Review by Siddiq Osman Noormuhammad

http://muslim-canada.org/toponehundred.htm

I am absolutely amazed by your informative article
.

User: "Firnando"

Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever lived or will ever live. 15 Jun 2007 07:00:26 AM
On Jun 14, 10:16 am, Muslims Always Victorious <zimb...@295.ca> wrote:

Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his
family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever
lived or will ever live.

You may be an atheist or an agnostic or you may belong to any of the
religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may have
been a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter
what you are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs,
personal and social habits happen to be- YOU STILL MUST KNOW THIS MAN!

Muhammad - the Prophet of Islam

http://tinyurl.com/yqdvz9

Related link

http://tinyurl.com/22ukgs

Also read

The 100
A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History
by Michael H. Hart
A Book Review by Siddiq Osman Noormuhammad

http://muslim-canada.org/toponehundred.htm

If that doesn't say it all, nothing does!
.

User: "Firnando"

Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever lived or will ever live. 21 Jun 2007 08:27:40 AM
On Jun 14, 10:16 am, Muslims Always Victorious <zimb...@295.ca> wrote:

Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his
family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever
lived or will ever live.

You may be an atheist or an agnostic or you may belong to any of the
religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may have
been a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter
what you are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs,
personal and social habits happen to be- YOU STILL MUST KNOW THIS MAN!

Muhammad - the Prophet of Islam

http://tinyurl.com/yqdvz9

Related link

http://tinyurl.com/22ukgs

Also read

The 100
A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History
by Michael H. Hart
A Book Review by Siddiq Osman Noormuhammad

http://muslim-canada.org/toponehundred.htm

If that doesn't say it all, nothing does!
.

User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever lived or will ever live. 14 Jun 2007 02:18:25 PM
On Jun 14, 7:16 am, Muslims Always Victorious <zimb...@295.ca> wrote:

Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his
family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever
lived or will ever live.

You may be an atheist or an agnostic or you may belong to any of the
religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may have
been a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter
what you are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs,
personal and social habits happen to be- YOU STILL MUST KNOW THIS MAN!

Muhammad - the Prophet of Islam

And *you* need to read Ibn Warraq's book, _Why I Am Not a Muslim_.
(And while I'm making the effort, please keep your crappy
superstitions out of alt.atheism. We don't believe in gods, in *any*
god, including yours. Now ***** off.)
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever lived or will ever live. 14 Jun 2007 02:35:09 PM
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:16:06 -0700, Muslims Always Victorious
<zimbawi@295.ca> wrote:

Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his
family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever
lived or will ever live.

You may be an atheist or an agnostic or you may belong to any of the
religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may have
been a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter
what you are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs,
personal and social habits happen to be- YOU STILL MUST KNOW THIS MAN!

Yes, as a bloodthirsty brigand, who created the most pernicious and
barbaric of the three major monotheistic religions. Not major selling
points on alt.atheism, I'm afraid.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him, his family, companions and descendants), is the greatest human that ever lived or will ever live. 14 Jun 2007 09:55:34 AM
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:16:06 -0700, Muslims Always Victorious wrote:

Prophet Muhammad<SMACK>

Bad troll!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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