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16 May 2004 02:22:00 PM |
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Mummy, I'm dying! |
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
Please, tell them to stop
It hits like a knife!
Daddy, I am dying,
Please hear me crying!
And let me be near
That you shelter me
Please tell them to stop
And make them see!
Jesus, I was dying,
Not one heard me crying.
I loved my Mummy, loved my Dad,
Like garbage they treated me.
You told them to stop
but they wouldn't see...
::: vera :::
As I have written that myself, please make use of it anywhere you want to.
Copy and paste it as much as you can... I release this into the Public Domain -
there are no restrictions to use it.
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http://www.e-sword.com
http://www.biblegateway.com/bible?english=english&version=kjv
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! (Bad pro-lie fiction) |
17 May 2004 04:19:07 PM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 16:33:06 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <k9idnT8u_qbMvDTdRVn-gw@comcast.com>
wrote:
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A demonstration of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
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A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
It take 6 weeks to train them to distinguish between the inmates and
the other guards.
Even those with
an IQ of 95 can make it. :-) In NYC women are taking that job now.....
Tell us all about the job and what we do.
This should be interesting
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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17 May 2004 09:09:14 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 16:33:06 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <k9idnT8u_qbMvDTdRVn-gw@comcast.com>
wrote:
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any
anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A demonstration
of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
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A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
It take 6 weeks to train them to distinguish between the inmates and
the other guards.
=========================================
And when to call for backup, and when one criminal is killing another, when
a rape is occurring.....
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FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! (Bad pro-lie fiction) |
17 May 2004 10:17:47 PM |
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"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 16:33:06 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <k9idnT8u_qbMvDTdRVn-gw@comcast.com>
wrote:
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any
anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A demonstration
of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
=========================================
A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
It take 6 weeks to train them to distinguish between the inmates and
the other guards.
=========================================
And when to call for backup, and when one criminal is killing another,
when
a rape is occurring.....
You know, just when I think you hit rock bottom...you surprise me and go
lower.
Now naturally you are making fun and jokes about a serious career because it
is something I do.
The men and women who work in corrections put their lives on the line every
day they walk past that gate.
A correctional officer doesn't know from one day to the next if he or she is
coming home in one piece or alive.
Read the history of Attica
Correctional Officers play a serious role. #1, Correctional Officers help
keep the public safe. You don't want those doors to open and allow them
back out do you?
#2, Correctional Officers play a vital role in the rehabilitation of an
inmate. You realize the inmate sees and interacts with a Correctional
officer more than anyone else in the prison? It is vital that a
Correctional Officer be professional, act professional, know the laws, and
most important constitutional rights an inmate is entitled too.
#3, Do you have any idea of the 4 functions of a prison?
a) Incarceration
b) Retribution
c) Deterrence
d) Rehabilitation
#4, do you have any idea of the role of a Correctional Officer?
a) Security
b) Manager of offenders
c) Team member
d) Most important, a positive role model for the inmate
#5, Correctional Officers wear many hats.
Law Enforcement, we do almost the same things troopers do...except we are in
a different setting. From enforcement to preparing cases
Mentor
Counselor
Advisor
Sometimes just an ear to listen
Protector, yes it is our job to protect them as well as staff and the public
Sometimes fireman or EMT..yes we are trained in both
The bottom line is Flower Power, you don't know squat about the job at all.
You are totally disrespecting millions of men and women who do a job that
most can not do or wouldn't last a week doing. It takes a very special
person that can do the job. Now you can say what you want about me, I don't
care...that bounces off. But when you go and mock a job that I take
seriously, you are putting those men and women down. I offered you once to
go into a forum with other Correctional Officers and say your stuff to not
just me...but hundreds of others who get together in this forum and discuss
the job.
You didn't take me up on that offer. That tells me a few things, mainly
that you are a coward. If you want to disrepect Correctional Officers, lets
see you go into a forum that is nothing but Correctional Officers and see
you get an education on just what we do.
It is a shame when people like you mock and degrade such a honorable,
important, dangerous and high stress job...such as Corrections.
But then again, you chose to be like this.
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18 May 2004 06:52:11 AM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:09:14 -0500, "Flower Power"
<freeTheWomen@this.net> in alt.abortion with message-id
<5fqdnW7_eovQ7TTdRVn-gg@heartoftn.net> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 16:33:06 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <k9idnT8u_qbMvDTdRVn-gw@comcast.com>
wrote:
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any
anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A demonstration
of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
=========================================
A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
It take 6 weeks to train them to distinguish between the inmates and
the other guards.
=========================================
And when to call for backup, and when one criminal is killing another, when
a rape is occurring.....
That's the advanced class for after they have been on the job for six
months. No need to waste that training money on people who won't stay
for a while.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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18 May 2004 12:28:56 AM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A demonstration of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
Hmmm. People in my business get anywhere from four to ten years of
training. I work with at least a couple of people who have PhDs.
Still, nothing wrong with being a prison guard. Different jobs for
different people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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18 May 2004 12:55:25 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any
anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A demonstration
of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
Hmmm. People in my business get anywhere from four to ten years of
training.
Yea and we get several years as well....
We get a 8 week academy, and several years OJT, as well as refreshers.
Do you think you know better than I, as to what kind of training we should
get????
I don't think so.
I work with at least a couple of people who have PhDs.
I work with people who have Masters, I work with people who only have a H.S.
Diploma
I have seen people with GED's have more common sense than a person with a
Masters.
A degree means little in some careers. Especially Corrections. You can
have a degree, that is great..but in corrections it is experience that gets
you to advancement. I know plenty of Correctional Officers with Associates
and B.A. degrees. It means absolutely nothing in Corrections. The paper is
worthless.
Actually let me rephrase that a bit, personally I think the education is
valuable. I learned so much with knowing and learning the Constitutional
Rights a inmate has, and knowing that saves my butt from getting sued. You
don't know just how easy it is to get sued for something as simple as not
getting a inmate a roll of toilet paper when he/she ask for one. Even
though we know what many of the inmates use Toilet Paper for..and it isn't
for wiping their (*$(*....we still must make sure they have this basic need.
If not...guess what...you just violated the 8th ammendment and you will find
yourself in court. Little things like that...nice to know.
I have seen an officer sued for just that very thing.
Overall though...
It takes experience. It takes knowing how to deal in emergency situations.
Knowing how to solve the problem, and the only way to learn is to experience
it. Trial and error.
It takes 5 years for the average Correctional Officer to become seasoned.
Meaning, it takes 5 years for that officer to actually have a handle on the
job.
That is 5 years of OJT, making mistakes, trial and error...you will never
have a seasoned officer without this 5 year period. Some it takes longer.
Most important quality a Correctional Officer can have, and I find that you
will find this quality in most of your military retirees, or people who did
serve in the military...is leadership.
A person who can think quickly on his/her feet. A person who can sense when
they are being manipulated. Over all the job is almost like a game..hate to
use that word..but at this time it is the most appropriate. They have 24/7
to figure out how to mess up your day...you have 8..maybe 16 hours to be one
step ahead of them.
Still, nothing wrong with being a prison guard. Different jobs for
different people.
No, there is absolutely nothing wrong with corrections. It is a GREAT job,
with many different rewards. I do not see me doing Corrections for the next
25 years, I do know I will advance. Which is why I am taking the
opportunity now to get as much education as possible, with plans on
advancement later.
I don't know if I will want to go on to administrative in Corrections or
move on to something else in the state.
Getting back to what I was saying....
Working in Corrections takes a special person. The average person doesn't
last long.
Right now in Delaware we are fighting our legislators to address a serious
problem we are having in Corrections.
We are losing people. We have more than 120 positions open. The state
keeps spending money on opening up more bed space, but we don't have the
officers to fill the positions. You like to talk about waste right? Well
believe me there is plenty of it in this state.
Do you know how much it cost to train the average c/o? Approximately
$5,000. It takes a while for the state to get back its investment, and yet
we have officers leaving the job with in their first month.
There are several reasons. Main reason is Maryland and N.J., pay as much as
10k more per year, with 20 year retirement and better benefits.
California had this problem, and Gov. Davis increased their pay by 30%, thus
solving a crisis he had with his DOC.
Our state has this idea that lowering the age limit to 19 and bypassing many
things..such as extended background checks...fills the positions.
Think about this...a 19 year old working in a cell block with hardened
criminals who are masters of manipulation. How long do you think it takes
before that officer is no good?
Again, it goes back to maturity and common sense. Something most people do
not really have until they are in their mid twenties and have been around a
bit.
So the college degree means nothing in this field. Oh, don't get me wrong,
I think it should. Especially for positions higher than Sgt. I wish our
state would make it a requirement that promotion to Lt. requires a min. of
an associates in Criminal Justice.
It would be nice because you will know important things like Constitutional
Rights.
Experience though is always going to make or break a good officer, at least
in this field.
By the way,reading some of your post...I think your job is very important as
well..takes a great deal of knowledge, and is a necessity.
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18 May 2004 05:42:04 AM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c8c6un$d9d$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any
anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A demonstration
of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
Hmmm. People in my business get anywhere from four to ten years of
training.
Yea and we get several years as well....
We get a 8 week academy,
Six year graduate degree.
and several years OJT,
20 years of experience.
as well as refreshers.
Ongoing conferences and journals.
I work with at least a couple of people who have PhDs.
I work with people who have Masters,
I have an MSCS. Stanford, 1992.
I work with people who only have a H.S.
Diploma
No, none of those.
I have seen people with GED's have more common sense than a person with a
Masters.
A degree means little in some careers. Especially Corrections.
Your problems is not that what you don't know. Your problem is what
you don't know and refuse to admit that you don't know.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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18 May 2004 08:29:06 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c8c6un$d9d$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any
anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A
demonstration
of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
Hmmm. People in my business get anywhere from four to ten years of
training.
Yea and we get several years as well....
We get a 8 week academy,
Six year graduate degree.
So?
and several years OJT,
20 years of experience.
So?
as well as refreshers.
Ongoing conferences and journals.
And?
I work with at least a couple of people who have PhDs.
I work with people who have Masters,
I have an MSCS. Stanford, 1992.
If you say so
I work with people who only have a H.S.
Diploma
No, none of those.
I have seen people with GED's have more common sense than a person with a
Masters.
A degree means little in some careers. Especially Corrections.
Your problems is not that what you don't know. Your problem is what
you don't know and refuse to admit that you don't know.
Your problem is, you talk out your *****.
Guess that degree didn't help you after all
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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18 May 2004 08:38:18 AM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:29:06 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c8cp9r$r7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c8c6un$d9d$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any
anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A
demonstration
of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
Hmmm. People in my business get anywhere from four to ten years of
training.
Yea and we get several years as well....
We get a 8 week academy,
Six year graduate degree.
So?
and several years OJT,
20 years of experience.
So?
as well as refreshers.
Ongoing conferences and journals.
And?
I work with at least a couple of people who have PhDs.
I work with people who have Masters,
I have an MSCS. Stanford, 1992.
If you say so
I work with people who only have a H.S.
Diploma
No, none of those.
I have seen people with GED's have more common sense than a person with a
Masters.
A degree means little in some careers. Especially Corrections.
Your problems is not that what you don't know. Your problem is what
you don't know and refuse to admit that you don't know.
Your problem is, you talk out your *****.
Guess that degree didn't help you after all
Speaking of degrees, from which uniserty did you receive your
(alleged) "Criminal Justice" degree?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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18 May 2004 08:40:49 AM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:38:18 -0400, Somesappywriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:29:06 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c8cp9r$r7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c8c6un$d9d$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any
anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A
demonstration
of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
Hmmm. People in my business get anywhere from four to ten years of
training.
Yea and we get several years as well....
We get a 8 week academy,
Six year graduate degree.
So?
and several years OJT,
20 years of experience.
So?
as well as refreshers.
Ongoing conferences and journals.
And?
I work with at least a couple of people who have PhDs.
I work with people who have Masters,
I have an MSCS. Stanford, 1992.
If you say so
I work with people who only have a H.S.
Diploma
No, none of those.
I have seen people with GED's have more common sense than a person with a
Masters.
A degree means little in some careers. Especially Corrections.
Your problems is not that what you don't know. Your problem is what
you don't know and refuse to admit that you don't know.
Your problem is, you talk out your *****.
Guess that degree didn't help you after all
Speaking of degrees, from which uniserty
(make that university OR college)
did you receive your
(alleged) "Criminal Justice" degree?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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18 May 2004 05:56:46 AM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 10:42:04 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:c8c6un$d9d$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
I am amused how Fishbreath foams at the mouth about any
anti-religious
comments but feels free to attack atheism at will. A demonstration
of
the limited mental capacity needed to be a prison guard.
A prison guard needs nothing but 4 to 6 weeks of training.
And how much training should we get?
What kind of training do we get?
Hmmm. People in my business get anywhere from four to ten years of
training.
Yea and we get several years as well....
We get a 8 week academy,
Six year graduate degree.
I chose the degree route myself, a BA in [...] - which I hope to earn
by the end of 2006, as predicted.
and several years OJT,
20 years of experience.
as well as refreshers.
Ongoing conferences and journals.
I work with at least a couple of people who have PhDs.
I work with people who have Masters,
I have an MSCS. Stanford, 1992.
I have a long way to go before I earn a Masters in [...]. I am still
in an undergraduate program at [...].
I work with people who only have a H.S.
Diploma
No, none of those.
Not that there is a problem with that. But in your profession, I would
think you at least need a BS in Computer science. Osprey is at the
Associates level and I doubt he's acheiving that much, given his
wilful ignorance.
I have seen people with GED's have more common sense than a person with a
Masters.
Osprey does have a point there. On the other hand,
Osprey is one without a Master's AND common sense, save his
out-of-the-norm sensible statement, above.
A degree means little in some careers. Especially Corrections.
Your problems is not that what you don't know.
Didn't he say he has a degree in Criminal Justice and that you one is
needed to work in the field (or something to that affect)?
Your problem is what
you don't know and refuse to admit that you don't know.
That hasn't anything to do with a lack of a Master's degree - that has
to do with a poor self image.
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16 May 2004 10:44:26 PM |
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 22:36:41 -0500, "Flower Power"
<FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
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There was nothing about religion in his post,
** All these anti-choice posts are based on religion one way or the other.
The only response he go was atheist paranoia
** Atheists have no need for paranoia.
Osprey, as a Christian, believes that there is a big bearded god in
the sky that watches him and can know his every move and thought.
And yet he says that *atheists* are paranoid.
--
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to
evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of,
the lack of evidence.
- Richard Dawkins
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17 May 2004 02:14:21 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 22:36:41 -0500, "Flower Power"
<FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:o-KdnSaDtaL8czrd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
=====================================
There was nothing about religion in his post,
** All these anti-choice posts are based on religion one way or the
other.
The only response he go was atheist paranoia
** Atheists have no need for paranoia.
Osprey, as a Christian, believes that there is a big bearded god in
the sky that watches him and can know his every move and thought.
And yet he says that *atheists* are paranoid.
--
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to
evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of,
the lack of evidence.
- Richard Dawkins
=============================
I know! :-) Isn't that something? That's the insanity of religion....
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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17 May 2004 04:11:27 AM |
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 23:44:26 -0400, Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 22:36:41 -0500, "Flower Power"
<FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:o-KdnSaDtaL8czrd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
=====================================
There was nothing about religion in his post,
** All these anti-choice posts are based on religion one way or the other.
The only response he go was atheist paranoia
** Atheists have no need for paranoia.
Osprey, as a Christian, believes that there is a big bearded god in
the sky that watches him and can know his every move and thought.
If that's the case, osprey is in a heap of trouble.
And yet he says that *atheists* are paranoid.
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16 May 2004 05:57:08 PM |
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
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| User: "Slate" |
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16 May 2004 08:09:36 PM |
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
Slate
"Commonly, those who have professed the strongest motives of love of a
God have demonstrated the deepest hatred toward human joy and
liberty." [E. Haldeman-Julius]
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! (Bad pro-lie fiction) |
16 May 2004 08:12:44 PM |
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"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jn3ga05h868eod7c9f07vve1o0t9rpkngh@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
One of them??? One of who? Care to explain and be prepared for many
questions to follow?
I thought you were not a bigot????
I guess you lied then too.
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| User: "My-Two-Angels" |
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16 May 2004 08:17:10 PM |
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:12:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jn3ga05h868eod7c9f07vve1o0t9rpkngh@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
One of them??? One of who?
"idiot fundamentalists who muck-up religion in the name of God, in
order to hurt people."
Now, Osprey, don't pretend that my statement doesn't exist;
I know you've read it. ;-)
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! (Bad pro-lie fiction) |
17 May 2004 07:43:29 AM |
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"My-Two-Angels" <Poster@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:gi4ga0dbc7ne15l5hv2um5mebh66us0d9v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:12:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jn3ga05h868eod7c9f07vve1o0t9rpkngh@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
One of them??? One of who?
"idiot fundamentalists who muck-up religion in the name of God, in
order to hurt people."
Now, Osprey, don't pretend that my statement doesn't exist;
I know you've read it. ;-)
To hurt people... Yes, how much they are hurt. Look here:
http://abortionismurder.org/notconvinced.shtml
::: vera :::
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
--
:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ::::::::::
:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ::::::::::
http://www.e-sword.com
http://www.biblegateway.com/bible?english=english&version=kjv
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! (Bad pro-lie fiction) |
17 May 2004 08:12:32 AM |
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:::vera::: wrote:
"My-Two-Angels" <Poster@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:gi4ga0dbc7ne15l5hv2um5mebh66us0d9v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:12:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jn3ga05h868eod7c9f07vve1o0t9rpkngh@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
One of them??? One of who?
"idiot fundamentalists who muck-up religion in the name of God, in
order to hurt people."
Now, Osprey, don't pretend that my statement doesn't exist;
I know you've read it. ;-)
To hurt people... Yes, how much they are hurt. Look here:
Look here:
http://www.prcdc.org/summaries/matmort/matmort.html
Now look here:
http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm
Now look here:
http://www.goodvibes.com/cgi-bin/sgdynamo.exe?HTNAME=magazine/features/sex_and_culture/2003113.html
Do you suppose dying slowly in childbirth hurts more than an abortion,
or less? How about AIDS- do you suppose it hurts more than an aborted
fetus, or less?
Think very hard about that third article, and how religion hurts people
http://abortionismurder.org/notconvinced.shtml
::: vera :::
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
--
:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ::::::::::
:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ::::::::::
http://www.e-sword.com
http://www.biblegateway.com/bible?english=english&version=kjv
--
--sexkitten--Helen Waite is now in charge of all complaints.
If you have a complaint, just go to Helen Waite.
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! (Bad pro-lie fiction) |
17 May 2004 08:20:34 AM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 06:12:32 -0700, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
:::vera::: wrote:
"My-Two-Angels" <Poster@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:gi4ga0dbc7ne15l5hv2um5mebh66us0d9v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:12:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jn3ga05h868eod7c9f07vve1o0t9rpkngh@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
One of them??? One of who?
"idiot fundamentalists who muck-up religion in the name of God, in
order to hurt people."
Now, Osprey, don't pretend that my statement doesn't exist;
I know you've read it. ;-)
To hurt people... Yes, how much they are hurt. Look here:
Look here:
http://www.prcdc.org/summaries/matmort/matmort.html
Now look here:
http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm
Now look here:
http://www.goodvibes.com/cgi-bin/sgdynamo.exe?HTNAME=magazine/features/sex_and_culture/2003113.html
Do you suppose dying slowly in childbirth hurts more than an abortion,
or less?
Childbirth is far greater in damage. No pain matches the agony one
goes through when they are giving birth. Unfortunately, it's also
fatal.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! (Bad pro-lie fiction) |
17 May 2004 08:20:22 AM |
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Somesappywriter wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2004 06:12:32 -0700, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
:::vera::: wrote:
"My-Two-Angels" <Poster@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:gi4ga0dbc7ne15l5hv2um5mebh66us0d9v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:12:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jn3ga05h868eod7c9f07vve1o0t9rpkngh@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
One of them??? One of who?
"idiot fundamentalists who muck-up religion in the name of God, in
order to hurt people."
Now, Osprey, don't pretend that my statement doesn't exist;
I know you've read it. ;-)
To hurt people... Yes, how much they are hurt. Look here:
Look here:
http://www.prcdc.org/summaries/matmort/matmort.html
Now look here:
http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm
Now look here:
http://www.goodvibes.com/cgi-bin/sgdynamo.exe?HTNAME=magazine/features/sex_and_culture/2003113.html
Do you suppose dying slowly in childbirth hurts more than an abortion,
or less?
Childbirth is far greater in damage. No pain matches the agony one
goes through when they are giving birth. Unfortunately, it's also
fatal.
I phrased that badly. It should have read:
Do you suppose dying slowly in childbirth hurts the woman more than an
abortion hurts a fetus, or less?
'my bad.
--
--sexkitten--Helen Waite is now in charge of all complaints.
If you have a complaint, just go to Helen Waite.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! (Bad pro-lie fiction) |
17 May 2004 02:04:23 PM |
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2grsklF62t0hU4@uni-berlin.de...
Do you suppose dying slowly in childbirth hurts the woman more than an
abortion hurts a fetus, or less?
'my bad.
======================
Keeping in mind the anti-choicers couldn't care less about the women/girl
who is dying or maimed by giving birth. Her life means nothing to them.
All that matter is the fetus/zygote.
--
FP....
Do they also warn women of the dangers of term pregnancy and
birth?.......like:
http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml
http://www.imnotsorry.net/
====================================================
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! (Bad pro-lie fiction) |
17 May 2004 07:47:40 AM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:43:29 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"My-Two-Angels" <Poster@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:gi4ga0dbc7ne15l5hv2um5mebh66us0d9v@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:12:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jn3ga05h868eod7c9f07vve1o0t9rpkngh@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
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Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
One of them??? One of who?
"idiot fundamentalists who muck-up religion in the name of God, in
order to hurt people."
Now, Osprey, don't pretend that my statement doesn't exist;
I know you've read it. ;-)
To hurt people...
Is your prime objective.
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17 May 2004 08:48:44 AM |
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:12:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
One of them??? One of who? Care to explain and be prepared for many
questions to follow?
Yep, I'll explain. Your thinking is ruled by your many Bibles. In
relation to gay marriage for example, you made this statement
to me on 11/22/04:
Osprey:
The bible CLEARLY states that homosexuality is wrong. Period. No
gray area. It is wrong. <end quote>
If I took the time, I'd find plenty of other statements you've made
that show your Bible driven view of others. Is your god so weak
that he/she/it needs you and others like you to judge people?
Bring on your "many questions to follow".
I thought you were not a bigot????
Stating the truth is not bigotry, it's called fact.
I guess you lied then too.
No I didn't, however you are the one that judges others
based on your many Bibles. Your own words show that
you are intolerant, and narrow-minded. I'll wager that
rational Christians are embarrassed by you and others
like you.
Slate
"To know a person's religion we need not listen to his profession
of faith, but must find his brand of intolerance."
[Eric Hoffer]
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17 May 2004 09:11:37 AM |
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"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:12:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:57:08 -0400, My-Two-Angels <Poster@mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:43:00 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <FreeChoice@womens.net> wrote in message
news:cNKdnTnaE_wbdDrdRVn-jg@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:wYqdnd7jIIUcfDrdRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4mjfa09jnrviehs2r6bvjaguavb5d1ujeo@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:34:14 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Mummy, I'm dying!
Please hear me crying!
And there is this pain,
And I fear of my life
I wonder why these pro-lie morons think that crappy fiction is
supposed to prove something.
The "fiction" that this particular person writes, does prove
one thing. Their whole life is dominated by their religion.
Where does it prove that?
I think your post proves your hatred and bias towards religion
===============================
Not toward religion, toward the fundies out there who try to push
their
"religious views" down the throats of everyone else.
There was nothing about religion in his post,
"Their whole life is dominated by their religion."
He was talking about idiot fundamentalists who muck-up the religion in
the name of God, in order to hurt people. Understand, you illiterate
sack of bovine feces?
He won't get it..... he's one of "them".
One of them??? One of who? Care to explain and be prepared for many
questions to follow?
Yep, I'll explain.
Oh boy!!
Your thinking is ruled by your many Bibles.
wrong
In
relation to gay marriage for example, you made this statement
to me on 11/22/04:
Osprey:
The bible CLEARLY states that homosexuality is wrong. Period. No
gray area. It is wrong. <end quote>
So?
If I took the time, I'd find plenty of other statements you've made
that show your Bible driven view of others. Is your god so weak
that he/she/it needs you and others like you to judge people?
What are you doing????
Bring on your "many questions to follow".
O.k., why are you a bigot?
Why do you condemn others for judging, while you judge?
I thought you were not a bigot????
Stating the truth is not bigotry, it's called fact.
You are a bigot, hiding behind the worth "truth" isn't going to save you.
I guess you lied then too.
No I didn't,
Yes, you have. If you deny you are a bigot, you are lying.
however you are the one that judges others
based on your many Bibles.
So I base an issue like homosexuality as being wrong because I believe in
God.
That doesn't make me out to be the kind of person who is ruled by the bible.
You have completely gotten this wrong, and now you are going to be caught up
in your own words as this moves along.
You are judging, and you are wrong.
Your own words show that
you are intolerant, and narrow-minded.
Pot calling kettle black
I'll wager that
rational Christians are embarrassed by you and others
like you.
Make the wager, and provide the proof.
Don't just type words you don't intend to mean.
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17 May 2004 02:10:01 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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So I base an issue like homosexuality as being wrong because I believe in
God.
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If your particular god hated them so much he/she/it shouldn't have made so
many of them. Maybe you should join a better, more enlightened, more
up-to-date church than the one you now attend. You should also learn more
about homosexuality. It's no more a choice for them than heterosexuality is
for straights.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! & church induced homophobia |
17 May 2004 03:32:10 PM |
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"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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So I base an issue like homosexuality as being wrong because I believe
in
God.
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If your particular god hated them so much he/she/it shouldn't have made so
many of them. Maybe you should join a better, more enlightened, more
up-to-date church than the one you now attend.
You don't know if I attend church, or what church I do attend so don't judge
You should also learn more
about homosexuality. It's no more a choice for them than heterosexuality
is
for straights.
Oh yea? Which Gene?
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| Title: Re: Mummy, I'm dying! & church induced homophobia |
17 May 2004 09:03:54 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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So I base an issue like homosexuality as being wrong because I believe
in
God.
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If your particular god hated them so much he/she/it shouldn't have made
so
many of them. Maybe you should join a better, more enlightened, more
up-to-date church than the one you now attend.
You don't know if I attend church, or what church I do attend so don't
judge
# I didn't judge. I made a suggestion on how you can become a better person
and less intolerant and judgmental
You should also learn more
about homosexuality. It's no more a choice for them than
heterosexuality
is
for straights.
Oh yea? Which Gene?
# The gene that controls our sexuality. ;-)
--
The Purple Coneflower....
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
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17 May 2004 10:04:03 PM |
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"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <freeTheWomen@this.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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So I base an issue like homosexuality as being wrong because I
believe
in
God.
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If your particular god hated them so much he/she/it shouldn't have
made
so
many of them. Maybe you should join a better, more enlightened, more
up-to-date church than the one you now attend.
You don't know if I attend church, or what church I do attend so don't
judge
# I didn't judge.
Sure you did. Right up above, you seem to know what kind of church I go
too.
I made a suggestion on how you can become a better person
and less intolerant and judgmental
Believe me, if I wanted a suggestion on how to become a better person..you
certainly wouldn't be one I would go too.
You need to look in the mirror for intolerant and judgemental.
Oh yea, where is that evidence that I was "forced" to pay support for my
kids.
And lets not forget your judgemental remarks on what I do for a living.
You should also learn more
about homosexuality. It's no more a choice for them than
heterosexuality
is
for straights.
Oh yea? Which Gene?
# The gene that controls our sexuality. ;-)
Which gene is that?
Hint: They have not found one
And a complete genetic map has been completed for our bodies, it took over
130 years.
Year 2000, first draft of human genome sequence
The father of Genetics...it all began in 1966 with Mendel
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