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User: "Nomen Nescio"
Date: 27 Sep 2005 01:50:03 PM
Object: No Morals For Me
NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.154.80.20 0-1pool35-
68.nas95.newark2.nj.us.da.qwest.net
Jabriol a.k.a Reel McKoi/Cracklin'/iksgorkon/judgedred
<invalid@invalid.net> aka <Zod@mailinator.com> aka
<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote:
We can reduce crime better yet.
Have a law that states tha all teenage girls who get pregnant.
you know
them Ghetto Girls, get forced abortion with coat hangar,
followed up by sterilizations. man goes free.
also every illegal imigant femeale, gets sterilize for life. The
she can
never be an american citizen. the Watchtower teaches this in
ther kingdom halls.
Crime will really drop, and we can still get wetback cheap labor
Hey What is wrong with murder? I have mu wofe aborted many pre
born babies. I
am also a true Jehovah's Witness. Ethical yes, Moral no. Murder
is moral concept i have no morals.
You cant be a true jehovah's Witness other wise.
I got a better idea still. We can remove preborn babies from the
uterus
and grow them in bonobos chimps. The perfect test bunny, soldier
and
cheap labor.
My fart Smell worse than yours!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Antonio L Santana~Candia.......
I took a Big Dump today!
.

User: "UnIncordio"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 27 Sep 2005 02:46:26 PM
Being a nasty SOB, I don't like to get involved in religious matters, but I
happen to know some genuine JW's (some neighbors and co-workers). They're
all very decent people and good citizens...
This guy's thinking is anathema to their belief system.
He's lying about their teachings.
It sounds like he is posing as a JW to discredit them.
Regards.
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:c804bb22ae03d62981b257e79cad27f3@dizum.com...

NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.154.80.20 0-1pool35-
68.nas95.newark2.nj.us.da.qwest.net
Jabriol a.k.a Reel McKoi/Cracklin'/iksgorkon/judgedred
<invalid@invalid.net> aka <Zod@mailinator.com> aka
<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote:

We can reduce crime better yet.
Have a law that states tha all teenage girls who get pregnant.
you know
them Ghetto Girls, get forced abortion with coat hangar,
followed up by sterilizations. man goes free.
also every illegal imigant femeale, gets sterilize for life. The
she can
never be an american citizen. the Watchtower teaches this in
ther kingdom halls.

Crime will really drop, and we can still get wetback cheap labor

Hey What is wrong with murder? I have mu wofe aborted many pre
born babies. I
am also a true Jehovah's Witness. Ethical yes, Moral no. Murder
is moral concept i have no morals.
You cant be a true jehovah's Witness other wise.

I got a better idea still. We can remove preborn babies from the
uterus
and grow them in bonobos chimps. The perfect test bunny, soldier
and
cheap labor.

My fart Smell worse than yours!

----------------------------------------------------------------
Antonio L Santana~Candia.......

I took a Big Dump today!

.
User: "Al deElder-berry"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 27 Sep 2005 07:11:50 PM
"UnIncordio" <unincordio@incordios.org> wrote in message
news:1127851468.2249bc4cffed76d07388ed4e940fcae5@teranews...

Being a nasty SOB, I don't like to get involved in religious matters, but
I happen to know some genuine JW's (some neighbors and co-workers).
They're all very decent people and good citizens...

This guy's thinking is anathema to their belief system.

====================
We all know this guy. He used to go by the name Jabriol. He is a JW but
he's mentally ill. Just ignore him.
--
Al deElder......
They need to do more than put that hot scalding cup of coffee down. Someone
needs to splash it in their face. -
in Message-ID:
<411e32f9_2@Usenet.com>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.
User: "Reel Mckoi"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 29 Sep 2005 08:39:59 PM
your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her.
Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and you may report her to:
by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at techsupp...@direcpc.com, or
by writing to:
DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA
Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or
person.
Al deElder-berry wrote:


"UnIncordio" <unincordio@incordios.org> wrote in message
news:1127851468.2249bc4cffed76d07388ed4e940fcae5@teranews...

Being a nasty SOB, I don't like to get involved in religious matters,
but I happen to know some genuine JW's (some neighbors and
co-workers). They're all very decent people and good citizens...

This guy's thinking is anathema to their belief system.


====================
We all know this guy. He used to go by the name Jabriol. He is a JW
but he's mentally ill. Just ignore him.

.
User: "Zod"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 29 Sep 2005 10:42:32 PM
In article <TH0%e.159$x%6.6362247@news.sisna.com> JABRIOL
Reel Mckoi aka Jabriol/Javriol/Gantz/Zod
<dpc6682112001@direcpc.com> wrote:
"Javriol" <javriol@gmail.com> -> jabriol [Antonio L. Santana]
NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.143.35.68
0-1pool35-68.nas95.newark2.nj.us.da.qwest.net wrote:
My son Antonio L Santana Jr raped an african american woman, and
brought a new low paid worker into the Camden nj world. im so
proud of black ***** human wanbee i feed him banana like
baboon.
Now That is the way to fight illegal imigration!!!!
who ever said I was hidding? Let me help you out here.
My name is Antonio L. Santana
my Address is:
3072 s.contitution rd Camden nj.
(856) 962-9003
My son, born 1961 live at 1064 everette st Camden nj.
(856) 968-0004
my daughter Rivas i loose to state of nj after rapes.
What ever gave you the idea I was trying to hide?
So you now who I am, teach me a lesson. After all I hide behind
an anon email like otherare doing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
.



User: "Gantz"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 27 Sep 2005 05:42:59 PM
Estas leyendo un mensaje anonimo de Carol Witkowski. Ella en el intento
de descriditar a los TJ usa el nombre de uno de ellos y escribe mensaje
desagradables para que los incautos caigan de idiota.
Carol Witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG
Do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's
Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on
A religious organization in good standing in almost every country in
the
world?
Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation
with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating
with her distributing false information elsewhere?
Facts about Carol:
*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common
reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them:

If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her.
Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and you may report her to:
by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at
, or
by writing to:
DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA
Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or
person.
Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
members will INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
"know"
the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality
with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO
proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.
One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
teenagers girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in
hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
in.
replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their
post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other
tabloids..
notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol:
"SD" <S...@steam.com> said about Carol
Carol,
When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond
with nothing but weasel tactics.
I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but
to regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded
wishful thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the
organization more than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for
one to constantly change their name as you do. Neither one paints you
in a particularly good light.
Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head.
She's here to subject her ranting to as many people as she can. She's
not
here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make noise,
and
lots of it
---------------------------------------------------
Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:56:41 -0500
UnIncordio wrote:

Being a nasty SOB, I don't like to get involved in religious matters, but I
happen to know some genuine JW's (some neighbors and co-workers). They're
all very decent people and good citizens...

This guy's thinking is anathema to their belief system.

He's lying about their teachings.

It sounds like he is posing as a JW to discredit them.

Regards.

"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:c804bb22ae03d62981b257e79cad27f3@dizum.com...

NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.154.80.20 0-1pool35-
68.nas95.newark2.nj.us.da.qwest.net
Jabriol a.k.a Reel McKoi/Cracklin'/iksgorkon/judgedred
<invalid@invalid.net> aka <Zod@mailinator.com> aka
<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote:

We can reduce crime better yet.
Have a law that states tha all teenage girls who get pregnant.
you know
them Ghetto Girls, get forced abortion with coat hangar,
followed up by sterilizations. man goes free.
also every illegal imigant femeale, gets sterilize for life. The
she can
never be an american citizen. the Watchtower teaches this in
ther kingdom halls.

Crime will really drop, and we can still get wetback cheap labor

Hey What is wrong with murder? I have mu wofe aborted many pre
born babies. I
am also a true Jehovah's Witness. Ethical yes, Moral no. Murder
is moral concept i have no morals.
You cant be a true jehovah's Witness other wise.

I got a better idea still. We can remove preborn babies from the
uterus
and grow them in bonobos chimps. The perfect test bunny, soldier
and
cheap labor.

My fart Smell worse than yours!

----------------------------------------------------------------
Antonio L Santana~Candia.......

I took a Big Dump today!

.

User: "Reel Mckoi"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 27 Sep 2005 05:58:32 PM
UnIncordio wrote:

Being a nasty SOB, I don't like to get involved in religious matters, but I
happen to know some genuine JW's (some neighbors and co-workers). They're
all very decent people and good citizens...

This guy's thinking is anathema to their belief system.

He's lying about their teachings.

It sounds like he is posing as a JW to discredit them.

Regards.


Carol Witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG
Do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's
Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on
A religious organization in good standing in almost every country in
the
world?
Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation
with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating
with her distributing false information elsewhere?
Facts about Carol:
*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common
reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them:

If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her.
Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and you may report her to:
by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at
, or
by writing to:
DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA
Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or
person.
Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
members will INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
"know"
the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality
with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO
proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.
One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
teenagers girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in
hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
in.
replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their
post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other
tabloids..
notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol:
"SD" <S...@steam.com> said about Carol
Carol,
When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond
with nothing but weasel tactics.
I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but
to regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded
wishful thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the
organization more than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for
one to constantly change their name as you do. Neither one paints you
in a particularly good light.
Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head.
She's here to subject her ranting to as many people as she can. She's
not
here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make noise,
and
lots of it


.
User: "UnIncordio"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 28 Sep 2005 02:05:27 AM
What I meant to say was that whoever wrote the drivel quoted below (if it
wasn't you, then I apologize) cannot be a genuine JW, but some sick puppy
impersonating one, to smear JWs':
BEGIN-QUOTE

We can reduce crime better yet.
Have a law that states tha all teenage girls who get pregnant.
you know
them Ghetto Girls, get forced abortion with coat hangar,
followed up by sterilizations. man goes free.
also every illegal imigant femeale, gets sterilize for life. The
she can
never be an american citizen. the Watchtower teaches this in
ther kingdom halls.
Crime will really drop, and we can still get wetback cheap labor
Hey What is wrong with murder? I have mu wofe aborted many pre
born babies. I
am also a true Jehovah's Witness. Ethical yes, Moral no. Murder
is moral concept i have no morals.
You cant be a true jehovah's Witness other wise.
I got a better idea still. We can remove preborn babies from the
uterus
and grow them in bonobos chimps. The perfect test bunny, soldier
and
cheap labor.
My fart Smell worse than yours!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Antonio L Santana~Candia.......
I took a Big Dump today!"

END-QUOTE
As I mentioned before, I know several of them and despite my mean and nasty
mundane personality, I respect their way of life.
I know that, unlike most of us, JWs don't engage in wordly politics.
They don't condone abortion.
They certainly don't condone violence and cold-blooded murder.
Ergo, the writer of the above quoted lunatic ramblings is an impostor, not a
true JW.
I'm not really into religion, so this is all I wish to comment on this
subject and will now bow out of this thread (gracefully, I hope).
Regards.
"Reel Mckoi" <dpc6682112001@direcpc.com> wrote in message
news:v8k_e.108$Ad1.6401152@news.sisna.com...

UnIncordio wrote:

Being a nasty SOB, I don't like to get involved in religious matters, but
I happen to know some genuine JW's (some neighbors and co-workers).
They're all very decent people and good citizens...

This guy's thinking is anathema to their belief system.

He's lying about their teachings.

It sounds like he is posing as a JW to discredit them.

Regards.


Carol Witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG
Do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's

Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on
A religious organization in good standing in almost every country in
the
world?


Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation
with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating
with her distributing false information elsewhere?


Facts about Carol:


*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common
reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them:




If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her.


Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and you may report her to:

by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at
, or by
writing to:

DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA


Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com


Why does Carol behave as she does?


Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.


She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.


By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or
person.


Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
members will INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
"know"
the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality
with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO
proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.


One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
teenagers girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in
hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
in.


replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their
post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other
tabloids..


notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol:


"SD" <S...@steam.com> said about Carol


Carol,


When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond
with nothing but weasel tactics.


I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but
to regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded
wishful thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the
organization more than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for
one to constantly change their name as you do. Neither one paints you
in a particularly good light.


Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head.


She's here to subject her ranting to as many people as she can. She's
not
here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make noise,
and
lots of it








.
User: "Elder-Mann"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 28 Sep 2005 10:09:36 AM
"UnIncordio" <unincordio@incordios.org> wrote in message
news:1127891187.97bedb404e2052fdfc4273f742825505@teranews...

What I meant to say was that whoever wrote the drivel quoted below (if it
wasn't you, then I apologize) cannot be a genuine JW, but some sick puppy
impersonating one, to smear JWs':

================== SNIP Jabriol's trash.
WRONG. It was written by Antonio L. Santana of Camden NJ who attends the
Walnut St. congregation if Jehovah's Witnesses and has for many years. He's
a net-stalker and troll here on Usenet. He's been reported to the Camden NJ
police for threatening me last year. JWs are no better or worse than any
other person out there, so don't let them fool you how pious and decent they
are. It's 99% show.
--
McMann.........
Here you will find clinical studies proving that the Jehovah's Witnesses
exhibit rates of mental illness between four and forty times the average
for the population at large:
http://google.com/groups?selm=D3J0QI5Z38234.4565046296@anonymous.poster
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.

User: ""

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 28 Sep 2005 05:02:50 AM
that is carol.
UnIncordio wrote:

What I meant to say was that whoever wrote the drivel quoted below (if it
wasn't you, then I apologize) cannot be a genuine JW, but some sick puppy
impersonating one, to smear JWs':

BEGIN-QUOTE

We can reduce crime better yet.
Have a law that states tha all teenage girls who get pregnant.
you know
them Ghetto Girls, get forced abortion with coat hangar,
followed up by sterilizations. man goes free.
also every illegal imigant femeale, gets sterilize for life. The
she can
never be an american citizen. the Watchtower teaches this in
ther kingdom halls.


Crime will really drop, and we can still get wetback cheap labor


Hey What is wrong with murder? I have mu wofe aborted many pre
born babies. I
am also a true Jehovah's Witness. Ethical yes, Moral no. Murder
is moral concept i have no morals.
You cant be a true jehovah's Witness other wise.


I got a better idea still. We can remove preborn babies from the
uterus
and grow them in bonobos chimps. The perfect test bunny, soldier
and
cheap labor.
My fart Smell worse than yours!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Antonio L Santana~Candia.......


I took a Big Dump today!"

END-QUOTE

As I mentioned before, I know several of them and despite my mean and nasty
mundane personality, I respect their way of life.

I know that, unlike most of us, JWs don't engage in wordly politics.

They don't condone abortion.

They certainly don't condone violence and cold-blooded murder.

Ergo, the writer of the above quoted lunatic ramblings is an impostor, not a
true JW.

I'm not really into religion, so this is all I wish to comment on this
subject and will now bow out of this thread (gracefully, I hope).

Regards.

"Reel Mckoi" <dpc6682112001@direcpc.com> wrote in message
news:v8k_e.108$Ad1.6401152@news.sisna.com...

UnIncordio wrote:

Being a nasty SOB, I don't like to get involved in religious matters, but
I happen to know some genuine JW's (some neighbors and co-workers).
They're all very decent people and good citizens...

This guy's thinking is anathema to their belief system.

He's lying about their teachings.

It sounds like he is posing as a JW to discredit them.

Regards.


Carol Witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG
Do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's

Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on
A religious organization in good standing in almost every country in
the
world?


Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation
with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating
with her distributing false information elsewhere?


Facts about Carol:


*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common
reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them:




If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her.


Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and you may report her to:

by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at
, or by
writing to:

DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA


Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com


Why does Carol behave as she does?


Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.


She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.


By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or
person.


Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
members will INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
"know"
the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality
with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO
proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.


One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
teenagers girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in
hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
in.


replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their
post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other
tabloids..


notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol:


"SD" <S...@steam.com> said about Carol


Carol,


When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond
with nothing but weasel tactics.


I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but
to regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded
wishful thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the
organization more than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for
one to constantly change their name as you do. Neither one paints you
in a particularly good light.


Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head.


She's here to subject her ranting to as many people as she can. She's
not
here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make noise,
and
lots of it








.
User: "Elder-Mann"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 29 Sep 2005 12:32:15 AM
<javriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127901769.981741.264490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

that is carol.

=============
Javriol is the well known sociopathic troll *JABRIOL* aka Gantz aka
iksgorkon aka Zod (Antonio L Santana) plus more - from
alt.religion.jehovahs-witn. He's obsessed with *CAROL*... you'll see him
post about her day after day after day in many newsgroups.
deElder...........

UnIncordio wrote:

What I meant to say was that whoever wrote the drivel quoted below (if it
wasn't you, then I apologize) cannot be a genuine JW, but some sick puppy
impersonating one, to smear JWs':

.
User: "Reel Mckoi"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 29 Sep 2005 08:43:34 PM
Elder-Mann wrote:


<javriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127901769.981741.264490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

that is carol.


=============
Javriol is the well known sociopathic troll *JABRIOL* aka Gantz aka
iksgorkon aka Zod (Antonio L Santana) plus more - from
alt.religion.jehovahs-witn. He's obsessed with *CAROL*... you'll see
him post about her day after day after day in many newsgroups.

deElder...........

UnIncordio wrote:

What I meant to say was that whoever wrote the drivel quoted below
(if it
wasn't you, then I apologize) cannot be a genuine JW, but some sick
puppy
impersonating one, to smear JWs':


your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off

topic;
You can report her.
Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and you may report her to:
by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at techsupp...@direcpc.com, or
by writing to:
DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA
Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or
person.
.






User: "Reel Mckoi"

Title: Re: No Morals For Me 29 Sep 2005 08:39:32 PM
your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her.
Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and you may report her to:
by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at techsupp...@direcpc.com, or
by writing to:
DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA
Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or
person.
Nomen Nescio wrote:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.154.80.20 0-1pool35-
68.nas95.newark2.nj.us.da.qwest.net
Jabriol a.k.a Reel McKoi/Cracklin'/iksgorkon/judgedred
<invalid@invalid.net> aka <Zod@mailinator.com> aka
<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote:

We can reduce crime better yet.
Have a law that states tha all teenage girls who get pregnant.
you know
them Ghetto Girls, get forced abortion with coat hangar,
followed up by sterilizations. man goes free.
also every illegal imigant femeale, gets sterilize for life. The
she can
never be an american citizen. the Watchtower teaches this in
ther kingdom halls.

Crime will really drop, and we can still get wetback cheap labor

Hey What is wrong with murder? I have mu wofe aborted many pre
born babies. I
am also a true Jehovah's Witness. Ethical yes, Moral no. Murder
is moral concept i have no morals.
You cant be a true jehovah's Witness other wise.

I got a better idea still. We can remove preborn babies from the
uterus
and grow them in bonobos chimps. The perfect test bunny, soldier
and
cheap labor.

My fart Smell worse than yours!

----------------------------------------------------------------
Antonio L Santana~Candia.......

I took a Big Dump today!

.


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